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Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 ~ (35 laps)

Cars allowed: Group A = Porsche RSR3.0. Group B = Porsche RSR2.8, Porsche IROC, Porsche 914.

Top 3 drivers in the championship standings may drive Group B cars ONLY. All other drivers
are allowed any car from Group A or Group B

Track:Dubai (Club)  Built in Track
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=435&theme=34)

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"Top 3 drivers in the championship standings may drive Group B cars ONLY. All other drivers
are allowed any car from Group A or Group B"

 :)

Matt probably intends a free choice for the first race of the series  ;)

Yes Tony, we already had the first race.......in Cobras. Hence my joy at reading this announcement  ;D

Ah I see  :wacko:

Indeed.
COuld hardly limit who drives what when we hadn't done a race yetb  ::)

I've come to the conclusion that Matt types with boxing gloves on.    ;D

It's more that the baud rate of my head is 19200, and the baud rate of my fingers is 110

I think the national layout would be better suited to these cars, the clubs too Mickey Mouse and will cause contacts  :( it's just too tight and twisty, fine for roller skates, not rampant GT cars :-\

It's OK, they are only Porsches.   ::)

Only Pork on the menu ::), can't wait now
 :thumbdown:

For me the club worked best for these cars, You can have any variant you want, if enough people want it.
Try to remember last year how many times my choice of car/track was complained about only to
find that the race turned out to be a cracker. I don't always get it right, but have some faith  :angel:

This is the LCC so they are somewhat spec races, last one was Cobras, this one is Porkas, next one is Ferraris
that's the nature of the series.

I'll have another drive round the national, but I thought that one was boring when I tried them all.

EDIT: MJ may be right. A Does anyone object to making it the "National" variant?

YES!

What is the point of practice if you are going to muck about with the cars and tracks in the run up to the race!

You have done a fantastic job so far, just  ignore the back-seat-race directors unless they want to take the job on full time or assist with track and car selection before you go public.   ;D

I might moan about roller skate races but do not expect to be able to race proper cars every race.  I really enjoyed both the Cobra and the Vette in recent races.  Just a shame that my connection fell apart before I could complete the races!

Deuce.... I am reluctant to change cars or track the week of an event by default.
If lots of people have an issue with Club then we might change it, but not after tonight.
I tested with Club, and I take MJ's point, but I think it will be fun, like Brands indy
can be fun sometimes.

I wouldn't want you to change it, just registering that I may ask my mum to write me a note to skip this weeks P.E. class race if I can't (as usual/expected) get a Porka's round a couple of laps without spinning. Pork in my hands is usually a hazard to safe racing, therefore I will ALWAYS go with any other choice available.

That's all, I've served my time in the hot seat thanks Clive ;)

p.s. I think you've come up with some great series this time round Matt 8) (again)

I can't drive pork either, but many like to, so I include them.
It is true though Pork is more polarised than most other cars.

The 914 is handy and easier to drive round this twisty track
I am not particularly expecting an RSR3.0 to win though it might.
Th "A" cars are not meant to be a lot faster than the "B" cars
the same people are likely to win, they just may have to work a bit harder
for it and those merely probed by Aliens have more of a chance to do battle
is the intention.

Well when there's a big pile up and half the field retire you can re-evaluate the choice of club  ;) it's way too easy to be turned around in these repeated close corners with pendulum swinging 911's.
And for those pansies who can't drive them or like to complain about them every time, there's always the agile 914/6 GT  :-*

Proud to be a fully paid up badge wearing 'Pansy' club member since my first ride in Pork :P :laugh:

I agree with Mark, for a long race of 35 laps, the more comfortable the 914 is fine.
However, the RSR_30 is the absolute best as performance  :thumbup2:
As a second choice the RSR_28 which is very fast but difficult to drive, very surly  :scared:
See you on track  ;)

Distinct lack of pre race posts for this event. Mickey mouse short layout hardly inspiring people and seems a waste of a great car set using it here to me  :(
Not a happy Porsche bunny....Ferraris at Portimao looks far more fun, at least they can stretch their legs  :taz:  :gun_bandana:

Let's face it, there is hardly any pre-race banter on the PnG forum at any time.

And it's just another Porsche race.  One of those things that has to be endured.     ::)

Also.........


The AI are a load of cheating rat bags on this track!  They are all over the curbs.

I was on the server with Federico last night and, by contrast, he was being strictly UKPnG legal, even through that horrible wiggly bit. 

I shall have to take a look at my replays to see if I have managed to keep one foot on the floor at all times.

Seemed like a fun combo when I tested it.  :angel:
too late to change anything now, just try to be positive and stick to the Jedi code.

Also.... suggestions (apart from go away) for car choices for this series going forward would be
much appreciated, if you have time to actually test 2 or 3 fairly close cars at a track you like
(not a UK track) then PM me with your findings. One of the cars out of the 3 (but no more than 4)
needs to be about 1 sec faster at a small track maybe 2 secs faster at a 2 mins+ track
So it can inhabit the "A" group.

Yeh I tried half a dozen laps last night & quite enjoyed it, best lap was 1.08. Although I think I've nearly had enough of Porsches for a bit. How about some roller skates for the next race, I know Clive is just itching to have a go in some Minis.  :no:

Chortle, the next race is roller skates... though I guess you knew that  ::)
Then sporty cars, then a mixture, ok there's are porks in there as well but you can ignore them if you like...

Heck we used to run races with Porsches every Preston guild because they were hard to match with
other cars, now, because there are more variants I can run them often, and MJ complains!  ;D
There's no pleasing some folk  :surrender:

I'm looking forward to using the underutilised shorter layout myself, but I do have a question.

Question:
What do you get when you have a Pork only race

Answer:
 ;D

This series gives the chance to use the untrodden corners of PnG.

Lets get the MkII Jag out but for crying out loud keep the Minis away from it!!!!


PS   I'm cautiously optimistic of clinging on to the server for all of this race!  Which will be the first time in about a month.  ::)

I think you can forget the kerb police on the wiggly uphill bit, it's going to be hard enough avoiding contact in that sector as it is, and when following nose to tail Your hopefully going to be more focused on the rear end of the car in front!!

Legz,  :yawn:

 ;D

Rules are rules.

Not an option.

I agree it's difficult to know where the curbs are if you are stuffed up the exhaust of the car in front but just give him a tad more room.

Now that would make a good LCC race, 3.8s for the top 3 & 4.2s for the rest (or 3.4s & 3.8s).

@1970's Silverstone (It's the same as the 60's layout  ;))

For the record, I really enjoy racing at Dubai Club. Short tracks can be really exciting, and this is one of the best IMO. I wasn't intending to race tonight, but it might be worth a shot in the IROC if enough "Porsche numpties" turn up ;D

Porsche numptie reporting for duty..

Did some laps in the 2.8 yesterday so i'll probably take that, but don't know how competitive (or not) it will be to the others.

Jags at Ancient Silverstone sounds useable, Leather armchairs at dawn.
Wot Clive said, that multi curve bit will be a bit messy, but the rules are keep two wheels on the grey stuff
putting wheels up kerbs is perfectly fine, but driving completely over or on these wide kerbs is not allowed.

I hope Clive has sorted his dodgy conn, it is so frustrating to drop from a race when you are well in the zone.
I ordered some pots from RS and parcel force has delivered them to the wrong address!  :taz:
SO, I will be using a spare pedal board tonight, hopefully I will be able to race.

Remember only the top 3 are limited to group B cars, others can take whatever they want from the list.
most people find the RSR3 easier to drive than the 2.8, but whatever rocks yer boat.  ???
I think the 914 will be a good car for this event, I think Guiseppe pointed out that the RSR3 is fastest
but not necessarily the winner.

If I start any more races like that then I shall have Team Oldie knocking on my door!   ::)

Grats to Giuseppe, Otto and John.

Thanks everybody for another entertaining race. And apologies to Matt for the hit in the opening lap. Wasn't aware of my mistake until I watched the replay. You'll  get your position back in the next race. :angel:

Cheers, Dan

Hi guys,
I apologize for the incident with Geoffers, but watching the replay I think we both wrong, what do you think?
Congratulations to the winner and to John for the regularity and speed throughout the race, at one point it seemed you were driving a Porsche 3.0

See u next time
Ciao

Cracking race that really enjoyed it, told you all along the club layout was great  ;D

Qualied well in 5th against a strong grid  :)
Had my usual tardy start off the line and nearly got swamped by several cars but my longer gear and later braking just kept me ahead of all but John. Everyone was great in the opening laps giving each other enough room but still racing hard  :)
I chased John as hard and close as I dared and amazingly I think he was actually costing me time in the first laps as I had to keep getting out of the throttle to avoid contact.  :o
On lap 8 John tried a new tactic to get rid of me pestering him, he lost it mid apex! and I had to make an emergency move to avoid contact! But in trying to get it back under control the chasing F Zecherini? Clipped me and we both took to the verges? I rejoined quickly but John had scampered off sniggering in his helmet  ;D
Then I passed Geoffers a few laps later after his off and slowly but surely closed down on John again with geoffers in close pursuit  :sweatdrop:
This continued for most of the race but Geoffers fell off somewhere giving me a breather, and with very worn tyres I just couldn't find a way past the flying John and he didn't make any errors.
Finished a fine 4th behind three aliens   :clap:  ooh I got 3rd fastest race lap too  :-*

The cars looked fantastic and the track was good fun apart from that horrid uphill bit. :)
Congrats to Guiseppe, Otto and John on the podium  :thumbup1:

Results and Replay Posted
That was great fun  ;D
I lost places with a slow start and then Dan helped me lose some more  :o
Nay bother, was unfortunate, but I got back on quickly, and on the 1st lap is not
such a big penalty. I am no Pork herder and proved it, by falling off a few times
particularly when the tyres started to go off, and I was on meds...
Had the what is becoming "usual" dicing with Evil Clive, sorry for bumping at the end of
the straight, I didn't think I braked later than normal? I waited of course and we continued
then Clive went off so I grabbed the place. Well done everyone for the grown up driving
standards, I'm with MJ about that tight triple wiggle, could do without that, but most
people seemed to be having a good time, so mission accomplished John and Fedi
will still be slightly handicapped at the next one of these, and Giuseppe joins them  ::)
The same people were at the front, but others were able to have some dicing
with people they might not normally get to play with  :thumbup1:

I started with a 914 but was the only one, so used the RSR3, if I'd have know Legzy
and Alex were going to have them I would have stuck with it.

It was great fun even from my lowly position. I am still struggling with these PnG cars and how violent I can be with them, but slowly things are beginning to come together.

I was very slow off the grid after posting a respectable( for me) qually time and undid all the good work  :-\ but I was impressed by the good behaviour in the grid lock up ahead on the 1st lap.

I doubt that you did brake any later phspok! it was much more likely that I stood on the anchors way sooner than any sensible driver would have  :-\

Grats to the podium finishers and big apologies for a couple of very dodgy rejoins on my part up through the "wiggles". Twice I thought that I had allowed the following car to pass, only to become aware of another engine in very close proximity.  :o :o

I had opted for the hard tyres hoping to have more rubber to burn in the last laps of the race, on reflection I could probably have done the same race on mediums and maybe had a little more grip even from the start. The last 10 laps were deffo my best as I became more consistant and worked the engine harder in the downshifts and against the rev limiter without apparently damaging the whizzy bits.

I made a storming start from 6th and was 3rd at T1, with Otto on the inside.

Then I had my first Team Oldie moment and out braked myself into T2.   That put me back to about 8th or 9th and whilst I tried to creep back on without causing too much mayhem, I may have obliged a couple of cars to take to the grass.  Sorry about that chaps.   ;D

A lap or two later I tried to squeeze down the inside of Postal as we approached T4.  He had been on the grass so I thought it was a reasonable move but he turned into me and we exchanged hub caps and door handles at T4 and T5.  My car then decided to turn right and I then found myself in about 13th position.

I then settled down a bit and had a good race back to 6th by the flag.

At one point, Stig, having let me through beforehand, put in a storming lap and closed right up to me.  I was just thinking that I should let him past to have a go at catching Geoffers when he got things wrong at T1 and dropped back.  We shall have to find out what went on at the team debrief.

I noticed that Legzy hit the escape button so that I couldn't claim to have lapped him on track.   ;D 

Well done to Giuseppe, John and Otto.  MJ and Geoffers were going a bit too.

I notice that everyone back to 7th was going faster than Giuseppe at the end.  Was he on softs?  Geoffers and John look to have good pace at the finish whereas my medium tyres were costing me dear in the last section.  I still do not have a clue with regard to tyre strategy in PnG.  Nothing seems to work!

Had a decent qualy performance on softs, but opted for mediums for the race. Strangely the results show me driving a Dunlop shod car, whilst in-game it is wearing Goodyears..?

Anyways, I got me a good start again and everybody was behaving themselves the early turns. Got up to P6 at lap 8 for a moment. My pace was not that fast, so first had to try and fend off Hotkeys and then Clive and finally Federico.
Bit of a moment indeed Clive. I suspected you on the inside into the Wiggly’s, after I had put a bit of rubber on the green stuff. Looked right, but could not see you, so thought you opted to stay behind. As I turned my wheel I spotted the car on my side. :-[

After making our cars somewhat lighter by scraping off some paint, Clive spun it around sadly.  Some 8 laps later he redeemed himself and decisively made a pass stick. Then had Federico on my case for a couple of laps and we had a good scrap. That was good fun driving these cars and a decent result.
Also congrats to the podium!

Excellent first half of the race, all action; then a lonely second half.

Possible apology needed to Federico - after your bump with GT i took advantage and muscled past.. I think it was ok, but apologies if a bit rude. After spending what seemed like the whole of the next lap side by side you got by again and then Ivan nipped by at the same time. That's when things got tricky as following Ivan was not easy - you were lagging slightly and also looked like you had a very loose setup, and after you got a bit sideways just before the wiggly section i had to back off to avoid you and spun.

Really enjoy these cars though - always fun for me in the 911s..

Congrats podium.

lol you noticed!
I actually thought the 914 was a decent enough car, but it was like bringing a knife to a gun fight :-\
Had a little dicing with Matt & my new preferred Clive, but that action had long since dried up as they got better at not falling off & as the lapping cars came round I just lost more & more ground.
I could see the dastardly old(ie) Clive was rapidly gaining to lap me, well I'm not having that (& like I said, all racing had dried up for me) so aimed to hold on & complete another lap before escaping. Just about managed it & let out a little virtual pump to choke him as he would come through my fumes :P :P :P

Congrats to all finishers & I'll see you back in the mid-pack when there's an option of a proper car :angel:.

Well I thought I left you enough room Otto, but it is over now, lets move on to the next race.

Had good pace in this race & should have got on the podium but a couple of mistakes meant I could only manage 5th place. Still it was quite an enjoyable race with the early battle with Otto & a long chase of Mark & John & finally just holding off Clive.

Oh, I was on the soft Dunlops Clive, they lasted quite well. I think Giuseppe had Firestones on his car & they may have gone off towards the end.

Congrats to the podium, cya at Cadwell.

Great combo again. I have to practice more with the rsr2.8  :) It was big fun to drive but burnt the tyres.  Grats to podium and see u next time :)

Didn't practise for this and so didn't expect much from it. I was right  ::) I did have a decent chase with Dan but was never really in a position to make a clean move and only got passed when he made a slight error. Got the impression those trying to pass me had the same frustrating time of it.

I had a bit of a moment early on into T1 when I locked up trying to come back at Clive I think, although it may well have been Stig  ??? Wasn't sure what resulted which is why I gave a flash when you caught up and passed me Clive.

Gotta say my enthusiasm is waning a bit lately so I'll be picking and choosing my events this season.

Grats to podies and finishers.

I think my result was better than it should have been in that race. Apologies to Mark & Federico for the aftermath of my nearly losing it in the last corner - I was pushing too hard to stay ahead of Mark (which was lots of fun with some side-by-side action, by the way), and as a result was melting the rear tyres. Once my 'unusual' tactic had paid off, I was able to calm down somewhat and get some consistency then the laptimes started to come down. Spent the rest of the race looking in the mirror for Mark to appear again, but luckily tyre wear became a factor and I was able to stay ahead until the finish. Good racing & grats to Guiseppe & Otto :thumbup1: