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Season 26 Professionals Trophy, Round 3, Monza

Welcome to the Professionals Trophy for the 1965 Grand Prix cars.

There is not much to say about this high speed circuit in northern Italy every GPLer knows...

Division Moderator	=	Badblood
Race List	=	IGOR
Server	=	UKGPL_8
IP Address	=	tba
Race date	=	18-02-2014
Qualification Time	=	~20:45  UK time -> 30-45 min
Race Time	=	race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track	=	Monza (Papy)
Variant	=	65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model	=	PRO
Race length	=	~50 min -> 32 laps
RED ZONE	=	From the start to the exit of the Lesmo2
Password	=	see above (#post_event_password)
Replay	=	you will get here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season26/Pros/)

Driver lists and series rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=430&theme=6).

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be the first lap up to the exit of the Lesmo2.

Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

Hopefully no extra time tonight, straight on with it. Though I make no guarantees as to my sobriety  :wacko:

Edit. it is not possible to turn up half cut with no prac, even on the well known track, and finish.

I over corrected into a lesmo and the rail thanked me with a wheel off.

ill get my mojo back!

thanks to mods.

Quiet race, consistent 38s but littered with minor errors. No chance to catch anybody really, so all I can say is congrats to the trio who finished within a second of each other at the front.

Bloody T1 AGAIN

Looks like Uli went into Ronnie and caused some bent metal. I was in amongst some guys that slowed and tried to avoid it by moving right. I got hit by Natan. Will be interested to hear his side of it, looked to me like he moved right, but didn't slow.

Whatever happened, the car felt wrong, and I never matched the times I got in qually. Was frustrating to be the same distance behind Jethro for most of the race knowing I could not catch him. The car was great in the corners, I was much quicker through them than Doni and nHance when I was racing them (even passsed nHance through Curva Grande!!), but on the straight everyone was faster (ignoring draft).

First three over the line were an impressive 0.15 seconds apart, which must have been quite exciting for all concerned. Well done to all three (and also wd to Cookie who went -ve on 67s the other day).

Arf

Quali went as planned, working together with Axel, and that got me pole ;)

However, in the race it seemed my gearings were slightly too tall, trying to get away with not using 2nd as well. Had a reasonable start and was able to lead  initially, but saw a few cars crash, hope it wasn't due to me...

Dropped down the order in the lead draft, but that was OK for me, was expecting a few cars to crash the way they raced, but somehow everyone kept a cool head.

Then had a brain fart, and lost the lead draft into Para. Then I raced Natan and Clutch for a while for P5, and when Dean went off a couple laps for the finish, that handed me P4 when Clutch had lost a gear. Some good racing going on, very clean and fair ;)

Disappointed that my gearings didn't work out, when I had the same in quali, they were good for drafting, but not for clean air. Again a mistake, however pleased I was able to get back to P4 ;)

Again congrats Uli and podium!

Yeah, Robert, but psssst ::)

My best ever Monza race! 32 laps wheel to wheel with up to 5 racers all clean and fair driving!

I only know that feeling of my former career in RC-Car racing, when you have the total trust in what you are doing...

Several Lesmos and Paras side by side, reacting on smallest moves of the others :fencing:

Look at the GPLRA report of lead changes:


Thanks Uli, Tris, Dean and Clutch for this great fight :thumbup2:

Monza - Surely a 'must' for every UKGPL season. I've had some terrible online races in the last few seasons but Monza is always good fun and restores my faith everytime.

Managed to hang with the leaders, and even lead, during the first 10 laps or so. Everyone was completely fair, early breaking, space given..etc, but man, it was tight at times. Thats the beauty of drafting at Monza though, you can sit there in a group and watch the race unfold.

Had a good race with Cookie for the lead, but had to brake on the inside for Parabolica which i'm never too good at and as we both struggled to get the power down our front wheels touched. No harm done, though Cookie lost a couple of seconds. Next lap, and i put a couple of wheels in the sand at Parabolica and allowed Cookie back through. I knew i had to get him within 2 laps if i could get the tow, otherwise he'd be gone, getting the tow from the group in front - as it ended up, i lost 1/2 a second or more and that was enough for him to get clear and join the others ahead, no hard feelings and glad he was able to take it rightful position at the front.

After that, it became clear that not running in a group was costing me about a second a lap, and new over-heating issues with my left front, were causing the car to under-steer a lot (possible after the tap with Cookie, possibly due to the balance changing as the car got lighter, or just a poor set-up).

Robert was catching me bit by bit and i awaited his arrival to see if we could draft togther and dent the leaders 10+ second lead. As it turned out we couldn't and we both resigned ourselves to fighting for 5th. The racing was clean and fair and great fun, and i even gave Robert the odd raised arm as he came through as we swapped positions. As it is, i missed gear on the start/finish line with 1 lap to go, gave him 1 second on me and it was too much, though he was a lot quicker into Parabolica than me so it was always going to be his position on the last lap.

Well done to the top 3, great clean racing which kept my Pribluda busy as i trailed in 5th. Well done to Robert on his Drive and thanks for the battle. Great fun. Also well done to Cookie for fighting back after our tap at Parabolica.

All UKGPL needs now is a urine sample from Gareth do determine how 'half cut' he was driving at 160+ mph in Italy, unless he's passed out at the back of the pits? Surely GPL is difficult enough!!   ;)

Was a 50:50 imo, I heard you earlier braking/lifting and cut in a little too much  ;)
The server replay shows only a little contact of our rear tyres when your back stepped out ::)

I couldn't resist and watched the whole replay ;D
Perfect and allways fair driving from all participants!!!

Shame that Ronnie was lost in T1 :(

Almost... there were a couple of very near misses from people not checking their blind spot before moving across track (chasing a draft, usually).

I need a new race chair. My butt went to sleep with a couple of laps to go, podium or even a win was possible until that, but controlling these things at that pace with numb legs...  :(

Grats to podium, and thanks for a fun one!

Doh!!!! looks like I missed out on some fantastic 65 racing with you guys   >:(

But just so that you all feel guilty , I got lost in a pile of catch up moderating for the Friday races and totally missed the time ticking past until about 9:45.....too late  :-\

My chosen BRM might have been a good choice for Monza, but only if it got onto the grid!!!  ah well always next time.  :dots:

Yes, you really did...

(http://imageshack.com/a/img132/8041/ar2k.jpg)

Im not doing myself any favours ATM is should Practice Intensly and Stay Sober.  ;)
looks like that was a great battle for the poduim order. Grats.

Just a sneak in Parabolica  ;D

(http://imageshack.com/a/img534/9108/4s5l.jpg)


That was too close ::)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img138/2445/2apu.jpg)

Avoided the turn 1 crash but Gareth passed me but I had to back off at Lesmo1 as he was all over the place. He did it again at Parabolica & I made the fatal error of being mesmerised watching him I went off. :-[ Resumed in last place but after a few laps caught the Doni/Arf battle & passed them both. They weren't finished, oh No!. ::) We swopped places a bit. Funny I mentioned to Clutch after the race I had to admire Arf's outside line at Curva Grande but it was his pass on the inside at Lesmo2 that at the time made me say out loud "you must be joking". Saw him coming, gave him room felt sure he would crash but he didn't. ???
This was the best part of the race but Doni's Honda has the aerodynamics of a brick so he would zoom up in the tow, pull out, but couldn't make the pass. Still we all gave each other room it was good but I think realistically we were slower than if we had run round line astern behind Arf maybe we just might have made progress to the group in front but you can't do that when someone s trying to pass you all the time. I didn't want to be last in line in case Arf left Doni. Just after half way as Arf looked as though he was leaving us  I spun out giving a gap of 9 seconds to Doni. With 4 laps to go I caught & passed him but Arf was 8 seconds up the road & cruising.
Anyway well done to the podium & especially my team mate Clutch for his first points of the season. Leading at one point apparantly. Must diary that. ;D
I enjoyed it so on to the next one.

Norm H

I have to agree having seen your pics and the results.

An unfortunate coming together with Uli saw my race ended but these things can happen and I was glad to see him up and running and even going on to a tightly fought victory.

Grats to the podium of Uli, Axl and Tristan.

It was close Cookie, but more my fault than yours. agreed though, 50/50 and we all got away with it in the end. No problem from my end.

Fantastic driving all round i thought. A real credit to 'Pro 65' racing.

At practice I made again a new "real" (without slipstream) personal besttime and was only third on the grid but this time I was the lucky winner – my first win in the UK-GPL Leaque, smells funny :).
WHAT A RACE!
GRATS to Axel and Tristan, big hand to you.
But at first I had to apologize me – SRY Ronnie, it was very close and risky but not what I want. I'm very sorry Ronnie for your bad luck in this situation but surprised that I had much more luck - had no time to think about it in the race …. I'm very sorry that I couldn‘t control my car better …
My second big fault was the situation with Dean. I pushed aside Dean at the start/finish straight. You are truly wright when you told this in the chatroom. I‘m sorry Dean to see that in the replay. I didn‘t notice it at all in the race – but believe me I didn‘t see you in the mirror and didn‘t hear you.
This prob that I didn‘t hear cars beside me I had often! GPL bug? You could not look beside in every situation, especially when you fighting with six other drivers at the same time ;) .
WHAT A RACE!
A dream come true. Fantastic that a slipstream battle lasts until the checked flag drops – never saw this before with so much drivers! At the beginning in a group of six!
GRATS and THX to Axel, Tristan, Dean, Robert and Clutch – fantastic racing! I‘m very sad that Ronnie was not at that. I‘m sure he and his BRM had a good chance …
Special THX to Axel and Tristan, fantastic clean maneuvers. NEVER saw a closer finish – and I finished more than 300 races!
But it‘s not only the result who makes me happy, it‘s more the fair and close fighting and unbelievable 17 lead changes! let‘s go on :)
WHAT A RACE!
Shame that I make this two faults. It‘s a bit mortifying to a winner …
Looking forward to Laguna Seca
uli

WOW What a race !  :o  :)

No complaints from me Uli, grats on your first UKGPL win.........the first of many?

Hej Ronnie,
very generous and gentle, like a real champion, next time I try to make it better, I promise it  ;D

Some years ago, when I was Race Commissioner in the EOLC League (EuropeanOnlineChallenge/http://www.eolc.de/only GPL67-League) I would evaluate such a situation simply like this:
"Uli causing a collision, and he did it in the startzone"
If it will have consequences, no prob for me, it‘s just correct …

But that was only one fact (truly an important) of the race.
Much more I‘m still impressed by the fantastic fights with you all - Axel, Tris, Dean, Robert, …!!!
We all mad little mistakes (only tiny irregularities) who went well. For example I remember a situation when a Lotus in front of me (in Lesmo 1) surprisingly breaks a little bit earlyer than I expected – I‘m still proud not touching him (sweat on the forehead), and so on …
a lot of close, exciting, great racing  ;D
let‘ do it again!!
Such races are rare, I know but let‘s try – I‘m just high of it  :1eye:
and full of joy to race with you all again!!

cu next race
uli

Fantastique race, so close from start to finish......grats to Uli and Axel :)   ......my lotus was just a little " not quick enought ", Axel have a better gearbox I think .....and on the quick track  the ferrari is difficult to catch...    .....but what a fun !!..... thx guys ;)

...c u next one :-*

Uh, I just realized I forgot about the same chassis for all races rule, and took the Ferrari after using Lotus the first two rounds. :slaphead:

It didn't go unnoticed, Dean.  Not even on the day...

What penalties you'll face for the transgression are up to the mods before the next round at Laguna Seca.

Mod is published.