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Title: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 04, 2014, 02:59:54 PM +0000
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RACE START: Light may be early, go on counter start
Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40:  21 Laps (~ 44 mins)
Cars allowed: GT40 Gulf, GT40 MKII, GT40 MK1, 906-6/8, 906 - All except 6/8, Pantera BOSS,  911 RSR 2.8
Porche 914, Cobra 427, Daytona Coupe, Ferrari 275 Speciale, Corvette Grand Sport, Lotus Elan.

N.B Car list will reduce by one car choice each event, the most popular car will be dropped from the list, if a tie, then the one with the most points of the tied cars will be dropped

Track: Hungaroring Download and install this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/s3.php/gtr2/tracks/SRou_GTR2_Hungaroring_1.0.0.2.exe)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear:  X2
Fuel consumption: normal
Pit-stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change a tyre.

Server: simracing.org.uk P8SC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=432&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v3 from:  http://gtlw-blog.flyingpig.info/
(4) Watch our for pit lane speeding, some tracks support this.
(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect

There are:
4x Very fast tracks, 4x Medium , and 4x slower/tighter tracks
And pitstops are only at half the events

There are 12 Events, and 15 cars, so there will be a choice of 4 cars at the last event.
The Le Mans Finale is the "revived" version, and (force field on) it's the one with the chicanes
After the way the last one turned out I have no choice.

Rough guide to track Pace and which events have Pit Stops:

Faster: Barcelona (Stop); Paul Ricard;  Spa (Stop); Le Mans revived (Stop);

Medium: Melbourne (Albert Park);  Imola (Stop);  Interlagos;   Mexico 67;

Slower: Hungaroring (Stop);   Keimola;   Portimao (Stop);  Albi 2006;


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Geoffers on March 04, 2014, 04:14:21 PM +0000
Pit-stops:  None required


Slower: Hungaroring (Stop);  


A bit of contradiction there Matt. ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 04, 2014, 04:22:06 PM +0000
Sigh. multi tasking, It just don't work for me
Sorry Geoffers the page is still a WIP
That's my excuse anyway, I just created the page while waiting for my chaps to finish a lab
ad then they did  :o


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 17, 2014, 12:42:18 PM +0000
NB: Tyre wear set to "X2"  Fuel will remain "Normal"


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Giuseppe Reali on March 21, 2014, 10:48:02 PM +0000
Hello guys, this is nice track (remember when I used to GP2 in 1995) but for now I do not know which car to use  ???
I think the choice will not be easy, if anyone has any suggestion is welcome  ::)
See you on track  :punk:
Ciaooo


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 22, 2014, 08:00:38 AM +0000
Hello guys, this is nice track (remember when I used to GP2 in 1995) but for now I do not know which car to use  ???
I think the choice will not be easy, if anyone has any suggestion is welcome  ::)
See you on track  :punk:
Ciaooo


LOL

If you don't know which car to use just think what a state the rest of us are in!   ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 22, 2014, 12:29:03 PM +0000
Race set to 23 LAPS

Looks like 906 country to me.
A quick test to set number of laps, says 906 is 4 secs faster than 914 and 6 secs faster than Panty BOSS or Elan
I didn't try any other cars yet, and the RSR2.8 might be an option?
Of course you might want to be tactical and save the 906 for a mid range track. But if it's the most
popular it will still get dropped. Remember the 906 gets 2 bites at the cherry - if the normal 906 gets dropped
then the 908-8 will live on to fight another day.

If the fastest times are much more than around 1:50, I will set the event to 22 laps.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Hotkeys on March 22, 2014, 03:41:16 PM +0000
Race set to 23 LAPS

 ...........Looks like 906 country to me.

..................Of course you might want to be tactical and save the 906 for a mid range track.


I'm not sure I understand, how you can be tactical with this race format.

Normally the fastest car for a given track will be chosen by the majority, and therefor it will be cut from the list.

So the tactics would be picking a slower car, and then hope that others do the same?

If just one or two drivers then pick the fastest option, they will still have that car-option for future race.

Am I missing something here?

Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 22, 2014, 03:43:26 PM +0000
Last time we were here there was a LOT of corner cutting, and Geoffers got hit by the Kerb Police
Please practice keeping 2 wheels on the road at all times, putting a wheel on the kerb is fine
putting two wheels on the kerb is not.  :nono:

painted areas/lines up to the edge of the kerb is road surface to me.

Schoolmaster speech over.

No Stig you are missing nothing, I meant exactly as you said, if enough people decide to be tactical and save
a car by not using it then something else will be dropped, in practice it will likely be as you say, people will take the
fastest car because most other people will and they don't want to miss out.

Looking at last year's times I am tempted to make it 24 laps, but I could do with some times to judge better.
I am in working in Scotland until Thursday, I will hopefully be back in time for the race.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 23, 2014, 09:32:08 AM +0000

........................................, but I could do with some times to judge better.



1:51.5 in the Gulf GT40 with a full tank, if that is any good.   ;D

But the straights could do with being longer!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 23, 2014, 12:12:43 PM +0000
Thanks CLive, that's more or less where I was thinking, though I think the Gulf would be wasted here  ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Animal Ed on March 25, 2014, 08:49:26 PM +0000
Thanks CLive, that's more or less where I was thinking, though I think the Gulf would be wasted here  ::)

Not just wasted. It would be kind of foolish to take any gt40 because of tyres - remember, it is set to 2x ...

btw Clive, was that your real time with gulf or  ;D  :ninja:

Minor changes on setup, full fuel tank (despite you don`t need it) and hardest available tyres ... first lap 1:50,2 ... second 1:49,8 ... third 1:49,6 ... and i`m not gulf man.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 25, 2014, 10:54:53 PM +0000
Always knew you were an alien!

Guess my Le Mans setup wasn't helping much then?   ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Animal Ed on March 26, 2014, 06:37:42 PM +0000
Always knew you were an alien!

Guess my Le Mans setup wasn't helping much then?   ::)

An what!?!

That is an insult! I look much better than  :alien: !!!!!

btw one click longer gearbox should help. That way you can use first four gears with second and third more suited to majority of corners.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Mark J on March 26, 2014, 10:49:08 PM +0000
Server was set to 43 race laps tonight...hope that's an error? It would mean an 80 minute race.

Finally got some laps in tonight but I'm off the pace at 1:50 in a 906E  :( not feeling the love for the car at this track. May try something else.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 27, 2014, 01:56:25 PM +0000
I will be hurtling down the M74/M6 this evening from Glasgow, I "should" get back for the race
but in case I am not there in time to restart before Qual, which he have been doing for these KO events
Tony is going to restart for practice at 19:20. "If" I get back before 20:20 I will restart for qual
if not, just run the race as a "Normal" event. I might jump in towards the end of qual.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: phspok on March 27, 2014, 09:43:55 PM +0000
Results and Replay Posted


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Hotkeys on March 27, 2014, 09:59:59 PM +0000
I may be wrong, since the very first part of my replay is missing, but I looked the rest of it through, and I can't see Geoffers in the pit at any time.

Hope I'm wrong Geoffers, but I couldn't help noticing that you passed me and Legzy while we were in pit after lap 13, and somehow we never got back those 30+ seconds, as far as I can see.

Am I wrong ?



Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Legzy on March 27, 2014, 10:01:49 PM +0000
I never would have thought a podium was possible with me in a Porka :no:, anywhere ever!!! :o

Well what can I say...
  • Not a bad Oldie team points tally tonight eh Clive :-* (well done Ed)
  • You ever need any tips for driving a Porka MJ, you just come to your old mate Legzy ;)


p.s. That's bye bye to another dominating Porka week (only about 5 more to go till we get to the proper cars) ;D
p.p.s. Congrats to the proper drivers who did well tonight through skill rather than luck like me :clown:



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Mark J on March 27, 2014, 10:23:22 PM +0000
That race gave me the hump. I just don't see how I can be running 5th in close combat with Stig and Legzy for 3rd,4th & 5th and a 10-20 second lead over the rest of the pack at mid race distance,  have a perfectly straight forward pit stop at same time as Stig and 1 lap later than legz, and come out 9th and 20 secs behind the other two  ???  :taz:
Do I enter some kind of time warp when I pit   >:(

And surely if we are going to have a sprint race using 2x tyre wear, the rule should be everyone has to pit for a tyre change? I think allowing 1L of fuel is a gimmick. No race series on the planet allows that as a stop whereas a tyre stop is common.
Just my two cents...

Anyway, qually went well, race start went even better for a change, I actually made up some places! First half of race was great fun battling Frex whilst chasing guys ahead in top 6.  I was shocked to see an 18 second gap behind me after about 6 laps or so :o
 Second half was deadly dull as I rejoined from my stop with nobody to fight and the quick boys who had thrown it off early in the race caught and breezed past.

Congrats to the very rapid podium....and Legzy  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 27, 2014, 10:26:59 PM +0000
I think Geoffers went into the pit in lap 1, as we had a small bump in T2 after the start which spun him around. He took his stop right away me thinks.

Geoffers, nothing i could do about that spin. Sat on your inside at T2, no throttle and your car came back to my side quite hard. Just clipped my nose sadly. I did myself no favour by forgetting to call the pit crew and had to do a drive through before my real stop. Well it was a nice track to drive anyways.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Geoffers on March 27, 2014, 10:34:15 PM +0000
I may be wrong, since the very first part of my replay is missing, but I looked the rest of it through, and I can't see Geoffers in the pit at any time.

Hope I'm wrong Geoffers, but I couldn't help noticing that you passed me and Legzy while we were in pit after lap 13, and somehow we never got back those 30+ seconds, as far as I can see.

Am I wrong ?

Well since the first part of your replay is missing you wouldn't have spotted that I pitted at the end of lap 1!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Hotkeys on March 27, 2014, 10:37:21 PM +0000
I may be wrong, since the very first part of my replay is missing, but I looked the rest of it through, and I can't see Geoffers in the pit at any time.

Hope I'm wrong Geoffers, but I couldn't help noticing that you passed me and Legzy while we were in pit after lap 13, and somehow we never got back those 30+ seconds, as far as I can see.

Am I wrong ?

Well since the first part of your replay is missing you wouldn't have spotted that I pitted at the end of lap 1!

Terribly sorry to have brought it up then Geoffers. Pretty impressive that you could keep your car on the track with tyres having been used for so long :-))

Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Geoffers on March 27, 2014, 10:44:24 PM +0000
I think Geoffers went into the pit in lap 1, as we had a small bump in T2 after the start which spun him around. He took his stop right away me thinks.

Geoffers, nothing i could do about that spin. Sat on your inside at T2, no throttle and your car came back to my side quite hard. Just clipped my nose sadly. I did myself no favour by forgetting to call the pit crew and had to do a drive through before my real stop. Well it was a nice track to drive anyways.

No worries Postal, it made it an interesting race. Thanks for waiting.

I took the hard tyres & planned the first lap pitstop with a top-up of fuel then had great fun working my way towards the front. Got up to 3rd place after everyone had pitted only a short distance behind Otto & Ed, this became 2nd when Otto spun but I then did the same later in the lap & dropped to 4th. By now the tyres had pretty well given up & I pushed a bit too hard on a few corners & ran wide which allowed Federico to pass on lap 22, so I finished 5th.

Congrats to Otto, Ed & Legzy.  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: frex on March 28, 2014, 01:34:09 PM +0000
Like MJ that was a race of two halves for me - great fun in the first part, particularly the early laps battling with MJ and Legzy. And then when the x2 tyre wear kicked in the rear end became very loose, which if anything was even more fun!

P6 at the stops with the 3 cars in front not too far ahead. After the stop though they had all disappeared up the road (even MJ was now 15 seconds ahead), and the second half was very lonely.

Again, couldn't restart the car initially after the stop, but even without this i would have lost loads of time - me and pitstops just don't get on..  ::)

Congrats podium and apologies to the car that was on my outside at T1 (WGKid) - i just did not see you there at all, sorry for the contact.

 


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: Giuseppe Reali on March 28, 2014, 03:41:53 PM +0000
The race begins immediately with a misunderstanding with my teammates and then touch Federico, assisted by Otto, goes into a spin and out on the sand  :stupid:
After a few laps into battle with Clive, mistake and I push him too ... sorry Clive was not the right night  :no:
However, wait Clive back on track and resume second to last.
Slowly climb some positions always dressed from my mistakes  :blink:
I pit on lap 12 and trying to push back time to recover.
I can make a few passes and a couple of laps from the end I combine another mess  :oops: and I see that Clive pass me by showing the middle finger  :punk: LOL!

Congratulations to all, see you next race  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 9 Knock Out Sports Car Cup - Hungaroring - Mar 27
Post by: fzcfede on March 28, 2014, 05:57:51 PM +0000
I think Geoffers went into the pit in lap 1, as we had a small bump in T2 after the start which spun him around. He took his stop right away me thinks.

Geoffers, nothing i could do about that spin. Sat on your inside at T2, no throttle and your car came back to my side quite hard. Just clipped my nose sadly. I did myself no favour by forgetting to call the pit crew and had to do a drive through before my real stop. Well it was a nice track to drive anyways.

Sorry Postal :'(.

Hi :)