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Title: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on March 21, 2014, 06:25:10 PM +0000
Season 26 Privateers Trophy - Round 6 - Zolder

Another visit Zolder in Belgium.  In the days before Spa became a permanent fixture on the F1 calendar, ten grand prix were run at Zolder. Most famously in 1982 when Gilles Villneuve tragically lost his life during qualifying. The new Zolder 67 version is a great piece of track building by Ginetto.

We will run Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

For Season 26, all drivers must complete at least 50% of race distance to be classified.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2   ***  To be confirmed - probably change to UKGPL_8  ***
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 23-03-2014
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Zolder (http://ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Tracks/Zolder67)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = INT
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 33)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Replays Available here (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS26_js.aspx)

Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=426&theme=6)

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start to Butte. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=426&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: garethhall on March 22, 2014, 06:07:34 PM +0000
based on previous experience, I have only bothered to sort out 1st gear. I doubt I'll need second :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Walter Conn on March 22, 2014, 09:32:07 PM +0000
Thanks for hosting the practice server today Cookie! It was good fun.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Cookie on March 23, 2014, 12:10:43 AM +0000

Server = UKGPL_T7_2   ***  To be confirmed - probably change to UKGPL_8  ***


I am happy to host this race with UKGPL_8   ;D

But the drivers have to be aware, that this is one of the modern tracks with higher requirements to the hardware.
So optimize your system and prevent all other programs from running ::) 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Michael Turner on March 23, 2014, 08:59:39 AM +0000

Server = UKGPL_T7_2   ***  To be confirmed - probably change to UKGPL_8  ***


I am happy to host this race with UKGPL_8   ;D

/quote]
Could you post the IP dress for UKGPL 8 please as I can't join via IGOR. Thank you


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Cookie on March 23, 2014, 09:57:47 AM +0000

Could you post the IP dress for UKGPL 8 please as I can't join via IGOR. Thank you

UKGPL_8 has no constant IP adress, so look in IGOR for the server IP in the details. ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on March 23, 2014, 11:32:33 AM +0000
I am happy to host this race with UKGPL_8   ;D

Thanks Axel


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Cookie on March 23, 2014, 03:35:30 PM +0000
Practice server is running alternating Albi and Zolder67  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: cg7aa on March 23, 2014, 07:59:42 PM +0000
Apparently, there's a race on today! The last fortnight has been manically busy for me, I've barely had time for anything. It should be interesting!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on March 23, 2014, 08:03:06 PM +0000
Tha fan in my PC is sounding rather like a BT7 & has been sent off for reapirs. Unfortunately no race tonight - hope to be back soon.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Michael Turner on March 23, 2014, 09:49:52 PM +0000
Another frustrating evening and a new problem. :censored:
I got the IP address from IGOR (95.114.12.154) and logged on to the race via Multiplayer successfully with the launch screen showing the correct race details (33 laps etc) but also showing Opponents: 0 and Practice Remaining 45 minutes.
At this point the screen froze and became unresponsive and I had to quit via Task Manager. Repeated attempts produced the same result.
I had no problems starting a race offline at this circuit so I'm satisfied that the track is installed correctly.

Any suggestions as to what might be causing this?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: DLogan on March 23, 2014, 10:00:09 PM +0000
...Any suggestions as to what might be causing this?

What operating system, firewall, anti-virus, etc. are you running? Firewall would be my guess from what you've given.

Have you looked on SRMZ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Michael Turner on March 23, 2014, 10:26:18 PM +0000
...Any suggestions as to what might be causing this?

What operating system, firewall, anti-virus, etc. are you running? Firewall would be my guess from what you've given.

Have you looked on SRMZ?

I use W7 64 with MS security Essentials, Superantispyware and Malwarebytes but in all the years that I've been on UKGPL I haven't previously encountered this particular problem.
I've had a look on SRMZ but couldn't find anything relevant. The message I got on closing GPL was 'GPL has stopped working'  which isn't particularly helpful.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: cg7aa on March 23, 2014, 10:40:13 PM +0000
Sorry to hear about your problems Michael - not that it's any consolation. I wondered why you were repeatedly connecting and disconnecting. I have no idea what your issue might have been, I have such an old rig, I can't offer much help.

Anyway, I just wanted to score some points today so I tooled around all race, I still managed unforced errors though, very annoying indeed when I wasn't even going that fast. I had barely done much practice before the race, I just about knew which way the track went. I just took the default set up and stiffened the roll bars and off I went.

Finishing position was a bit lucky as my real pace was probably 7th or 8th.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: AndyL on March 23, 2014, 11:11:22 PM +0000
I set off from the grid in 3rd and very nearly collected Axel in T1 - I braked a bit late and almost almost wrecked the race for everyone. Then I settled into 3rd with Axel and Jonny going away in front. With about 10 to go I pass Axel exiting the pits so I assume he's had to reset and SnG. So I'm 2nd with probably enough in hand to keep it, so I forget to brake for T1, get caught in the fence but I can reverse out, jump the sand bar and rejoin in 4th behind Walter. With just a few laps to go I'm settling for 4th when Walter goes off track and Axel disappears, so I end up 2nd and Phil 3rd. Grats to Jonny. Hard luck to Axel, Walter and Michael. I see a lot of us were very close indeed in our fastest laps.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: dave curtis on March 23, 2014, 11:44:49 PM +0000
I know there has been discussion elsewhere about running/repeated running beyond white lines particularly at a couple of specific tracks.

Just to clarify something here;  what's the deal when it comes to racing down the pitlane?   Acceptable,  but potentially with the risk of a bad rejoin if an event takes place?  How about repeatedly?   

Similarly,  what about using pitlane from the start of the race & using advantage for multiple direct overtakes  (& then another couple due to associated better positioning for T1?)    Just a bit cheeky & good luck if nothing bad happens,  or is it as socially unacceptable as queue-jumping?!    (in the UK of course!)   

Admittedly this race was NOT at in the UK,  in which case a muted "tut" & a single slow shake of the head would typically suffice :)


--
Oh & I already know the deal with a junior member running into the back of a senior team member.  Apologies again DR.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: BadBlood on March 23, 2014, 11:49:10 PM +0000
I use W7 64 with MS security Essentials, Superantispyware and Malwarebytes but in all the years that I've been on UKGPL I haven't previously encountered this particular problem.
I've had a look on SRMZ but couldn't find anything relevant. The message I got on closing GPL was 'GPL has stopped working'  which isn't particularly helpful.

I'll see if I can find something Michael and let you know.

@DC - using the pit lane to get an advantage - hmm. Puts you in a rejoin situation but if you are careful.... If it lessened the length of the lap (which isn't the case here) it would be a big no no (e.g. Silverstone)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Walter Conn on March 24, 2014, 12:33:39 AM +0000
Sorry to hear about the troubles Michael and Billy

Thanks everyone for the race! I really enjoyed it. I started in fifth, and I fell back to seventh place rather quickly. I was looking for a place to overtake, and I locked the brakes going into the hairpin. I did a half spin, and I cringed as I watched cars fly past just inches away. I somewhat recovered, and applied pressure to the car in front. Unfortunately, the car that I was chasing and I had a coming together with a lapped car. I was the lucky one from the accident, and lost the least amount of time. Afterwards, I was pretty far back from my nearest competitor, but due to their misfortunes, I moved as high as 2nd place (without doing any overtaking on track). I made a huge error with five laps to go, and I drove off of the bridge. I dropped about 10 feet, but I was able to find my way back to the track. That put me just behind Phil, and I had a great time chasing him until the checkered flag flew! Good race, I am thrilled to have come home in fourth place. Congrats to our Winner Jonny!

See you next time,   :)
-Walter
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: JonnyO on March 24, 2014, 02:42:17 AM +0000
   Yeah!!! :clap:

   this race was fun, really like this track ......I had an advantage ...was lotus ,
   it makes much difference in Zolder! :thumbup1:

   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Michael Turner on March 24, 2014, 09:24:09 AM +0000
Sorry to hear about your problems Michael - not that it's any consolation. I wondered why you were repeatedly connecting and disconnecting.


At least that confirms that connecting wasn't the problem. So the question remains as to why the game would launch offline but not online and why only with this track/server. Hopefully the problem will have resolved itself before the next race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: bernie on March 24, 2014, 09:30:29 AM +0000
Another frustrating evening and a new problem. :censored:
I got the IP address from IGOR (95.114.12.154) and logged on to the race via Multiplayer successfully with the launch screen showing the correct race details (33 laps etc) but also showing Opponents: 0 and Practice Remaining 45 minutes.
At this point the screen froze and became unresponsive and I had to quit via Task Manager. Repeated attempts produced the same result.
I had no problems starting a race offline at this circuit so I'm satisfied that the track is installed correctly.

Any suggestions as to what might be causing this?

Hi Micheal sorry you missed the race , have you tried here http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3714 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3714) would also make sure your using the correct rasteriser ?


My own race was a complete disaster and hardly worth mentioning except to say I seem to be going from bad to worse  ::)

Hope my mobile chicane didn't cause the lappers too many problems . Felt I should quit at one point after I blew the engine trying to scrape a bit more speed out of my hastily & poorly prepared Brabham

Grats to Johnny O and the podium well done to all the other straglers who made it across the finish line


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Cookie on March 24, 2014, 10:41:08 AM +0000
Sorry to hear about your problems Michael - not that it's any consolation. I wondered why you were repeatedly connecting and disconnecting.

At least that confirms that connecting wasn't the problem. So the question remains as to why the game would launch offline but not online and why only with this track/server. Hopefully the problem will have resolved itself before the next race.

Michael why didn't you try to connect in the pre race practices?

I had the suspicion that my server settings could have caused a mismatch of BW...
But there are others who joined via IP and had no problems, as I run them for a while now::)

Run the gplinspect.exe to find any hooks ;)

My race was ended by the difference of FOV 78 to 94 :-[
(http://picload.org/image/lawgdpo/martin_fov78.jpg)
(http://picload.org/image/lawgdpc/martin_zol_fov94.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Michael Turner on March 24, 2014, 11:53:49 AM +0000
Sorry to hear about your problems Michael - not that it's any consolation. I wondered why you were repeatedly connecting and disconnecting.

At least that confirms that connecting wasn't the problem. So the question remains as to why the game would launch offline but not online and why only with this track/server. Hopefully the problem will have resolved itself before the next race.

Michael why didn't you try to connect in the pre race practices?

I had the suspicion that my server settings could have caused a mismatch of BW...
But there are others who joined via IP and had no problems, as I run them for a while now::)

Run the gplinspect.exe to find any hooks ;)


Hi Axel
I ran GPLinspect which flags in red the GPL CPU fix with 'You might have applied no GPL CPU fix' I'm not sure whether this is relevant.
Regarding BW, I have a 60MB  cable connection - again I'm not sure if this is relevant. Obviously it must be something to do with my set up as no one else seems to have had a problem.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Robert Fleurke on March 24, 2014, 12:06:36 PM +0000
It sounds like GPL is not properly patched, you're running prolly version 1.2.0.1. Patching with 1.2.0.2 or 1.3 (for longer tracks like Targa) should fix your problem ;)

Easiest way would to use the 1.04 installer I think as there are so many dead links sadly...

http://gplps.wordpress.com/gplps-gpl-installer/


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: Michael Turner on March 24, 2014, 12:59:59 PM +0000
Hi
The version I have is ' 1.2.0.2 Non US Version. Latest version found' so presumably that is OK. Thanks for the link - I've downloaded the installer  in case a fresh installation proves to be necessary.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Zolder - Mar 23
Post by: maddog on March 24, 2014, 01:00:32 PM +0000
I decided to join those with technical issues, when my headphones stopped working, just before the race.  Switched to speakers.  

It rapidly became clear I was not going to be in the Hunt, while I was in the Coop. and soon took my rightful place as lead straggler, with the only entertainment coming midrace, while trying to fend off a recovering duo.  I failed.

A brief half spin led to a bigger problem.  My recovery put me exactly alongside Cookies car, and the rapidly rigged speakers failed to let me know.  Big apology owed to an upturned Brabham.  And yes, the track behind looked clear from a default FOV.

In honour of Cookie, after resetting, I cooked my new tyres, then realised I'd not stop & go'd, and departed in disgust!