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The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham.  The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx.  Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance.  At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow.  More like something you would find in a GPL race than a real F1 event!

Race List = IGOR
Server = tba
IP address = tba
Race date = 28-03-2014
Race Time = race starts at 21:05 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 20  starting no later than 20.45 UK time
Track = Papyrus original
Variant = F2 and 69x
Damage Model = inter
Race length = 20 minutes (laps F2 14   69x 16 )
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

                   Heavies                                                    Lights
F2's              Free Choice                                          Ferrari, Bt14 and Cooper
  69x            Free Choice                                           Lot49, Lot 63,  BT20, BT24, Cooper T86B, Eagle AAR101  


Red zone to the exit of Moss on Lap 1

a Paul Simon tune springs to mind.  :punk:

Can't very well miss my 'home' race.  I'm in!  :)

As far as I remember (it happened 45 years ago !!), Jackie Stewart crashed after a collision with the leader Jacky Ickx.
 

The incident you recall, Dave, was in the 1969 event.

I think you are right Dave, however, I think he tangled with Pease two times before that, causing him to fall back behind Ickx.

I've done some practice. The BT14 is hard to set up, it's like a dinky toy, so light and powerless none of the settings really do anything :p . But I've found that decreasing the rollbar does have a profound effect on the handling, I like a slightly oversteery car so decreased that quite a lot untill I got the desired result.

Then I tried the Eagle for the 1969 race. It was really easy to set up, but I had a hard time eclipsing my own BT14 time! In the end I was two tenths faster :p . So that means I'm going to be in excess of 10 seconds slower. Per lap ;D . So I probably will get lapped at least one time.

Hope so  ;D

Here's a little piece that I posted elsewhere many years ago, chaps.  Give it a read and I hope that you enjoy.  It was a special day as I and some buddies took in the Canadian GP at Mosport in 1969.

"It was a typically crisp, cool autumn morning for Ontario.  The leaves were turning from their soft green summer-time hue to every shade of the rainbow.  Clear skies greeted Nick, Mike, Jimmy and I as we'd gotten up quite early to get to Mosport for the 1969 running of the Grand Prix.  We wanted to get right down to the fence line at the hairpin at Moss'and did so, planting our lawn chairs at a prime spot to see the cars come down the chute from turn four and roll into the hairpin.  We hadn't made it to the practice or qualifying rounds so this would be our first taste of seeing winged F1 cars.  I don't recall if there was any prelim heats for sports or touring cars that day...it was so very long ago...but I'm kind of thinking no, the morning started very early on with a warmup for the F1 cars.  As we four waited patiently along with hundreds more and more ever gathering at this traditional spot, we finally heard a motor spin to life up in the paddock.  That's a good km away but on a morning like this, it was easy to pick up.  It wasn't long before we heard a car acclerating away from the pits.  Sounds like a Cossie.  We can follow its progress...down through T1, up the hill into T2 and down again as it rolls into T3.  Coming off T3, it's apparent that whomever this is, he's clearly on it as we can hear the engine note rise sharply.  Only a moment to wait now and we'll see whom it is.

Ah, the car crests the top of T4 and rolls down into the chute.  It's Jo Siffert in the lovely deep blue Rob Walker Lotus 49B.  But wait!  Something is terribly, terribly wrong!  The car's tail is cocked out at seven or eight or maybe even ten degrees to the right and as we can look down into the cockpit from our vantage point, we can clearly see that Jo has full opposite lock applied.  He hasn't even lifted the throttle one bit as we can still hear the DFV howling.  This car is utterly out of control and is travelling at a speed that is easily approaching 400 mph and in a heartbeat, it's now COMING STRAIGHT AT US!!!  As if one mind, the four of us surge forward in our lawn chairs in a panic and grab hold of the fence.  WHAT TO DO?!?!  JUMP LEFT???  JUMP RIGHT???  HIT THE DECK???  The Lotus is clearly going to sail up the hill into the hairpin and at the velocity it's travelling, is going to sail straight on over the berm and plow through us like a sythe through wheat.  Those front canards are going shred us to ribbons!  But it's too late.  He's on top of us!  We're done!  Out of nowhere, the impossible.  We hear Jo smash down through the gears and at what could only be described as beyond the last possible moment, flings the car to the right and tracks the car on opposite lock through the first part of the hairpin.  We're in shock as the Lotus pulls grip out of thin air and Jo slides the car round the tight exit of the Moss' and hammers the throttle to go up the straight.

The four of us all turn at each to each other in utter amazement.  Faces are ashen and jaws slack.  There's giggles from each of us...that giggle of releif that you get when you know that you just faced certain death and somehow managed to come through it alive by some fluke, by some act of grace alone.  I think that all of said in a long drawn out tone, 'FFFFFUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK!!!'  We settle down back into our chairs, nerves still jangling.  Of all the hundreds of races I've attended since Mosport opened in 1961, this is my fondest memory.

Merci, Jo."

Slow-ass car? Blue flags because you're a lap down already? Whatever.

Remarkably, I didn't get hit from behind even though I was driving the Eagle, but rather hit someone else! Apologies to Bernie and Paul!!

That was intense! The F2 race was a lot of fun. I gave Mark a good race. The 69x race was wild. I worried I'd lose it early on cold tires. Axel had some trouble, can't remember what because my mind is in a daze, and I was able to get by. It took everything I had to keep the car on the track for the next lap with Axel on my tail. I was sliding all over the place. Once I got a little heat in the tires I was able to drive consistently and opened a little gap on Axel. I tried very hard to gain on Mark but we seemed to be about even. I was hoping I'd get on his tail exiting the hairpin. His heavy car wouldn't have been able to hold me off down the straight. That situation never occurred since he spun in turn 2. I couldn't decide which way to try to go around him. I went outside and spun myself. I should have tried to stick the car on the inside. It would have been difficult for him or Axel to catch me if I had gotten by then. I lost my rhythm after the spin and struggled to the end just barely holding off Martin.

It was a lot of fun guys and I'm glad I'm starting to get adjusted to driving the 166 and 49. My lack of experience with them has made me somewhat dangerous with them but today I didn't seem to cause anybody else any trouble because of mistakes.

Congratulations Mark and Axel! You guys are hard to beat!

Yeah, I was rocking my rig so much in the race that it moved forward and my wheel moved under the desk plate 
until I could not bring my fingers behind the paddles :o I solved it on the straight by pushing me backwards and succeeded ;D

The F2 was a phantastic battle with David for 8-10 laps in a distance of under 10m but he defended great and I could not pass him :thumbup2:

The 69x was very balanced in speed and if not my problems I would have fought better.
Great pace of Greg in the 49 profiting of the superior top speed on the straight, (damn I brought you on the idea of using the front wing...)
Mark was just too fast again  8)

Hope to be more competitive in GTs and CA next week ;)
 

No problem Tommie - you got me twice! lol.

Pull a shade over the F2 - couldn't keep the car in a straight line... not sure why. Bailed. So 69X...

I got bogged down off the line and Fran made a beeline for me - not sure if he got me first or Tommie but they had nowhere to go. That was just unfortunate. Got going and picked up a few places. Had Dean just behind and needed to get a good exit from Moss. Sadly for me I clipped the grass and span but had enough time to get going in front of Iestyn. Couple of laps later clipped the grass again and span at the last... that put me behind Tommie and Bernie. Got past Tom easily enough on the straight... and then caught Bernie on the way down to Moss. Mr Darwin was VERY cautious and I nearly rear ended him... and then Tom obviously felt I should have ;) That was also unfortunate but I think that the excessive lag I was experiencing wouldn't have helped.

Had to reset after that and a few cold tyre spins put me into the clutches of the leaders. Let the first three past and then got back past Greg once he spun. I was up to speed now and held him off without too much trouble. Pity I was a lap down...

Caught Tom with two to go and planned to take him on the last run up the back straight. Thought he would cover the inside.... he didn't and I had to bail out. Finished the race spinning across the line which seemed rather apt.

Apologies to Dave for baulking him at Moss when recovering from our three way tangle. May well have been the damage that cost you a place. Sorry mate.

Enjoyable race though. Hats off to Tommie for taking a chassis with the brakes set on... I enjoy trying to get past you, hope I gave you some laughs at my attempts to get past!

Things worked out well for me in the end.  Had a bad start in the F2's due to some network issue and was very grateful to not cause a pileup into turn 1.  Managed to work my way back to the lead.  I was a bit unsettled in the Lotus 63, but managed to dodge Axel and take 2nd, which became the lead when Martin spun.  I suspect Greg would've got me eventually with his better speed on the straight, which is why I was pushing hard in the twisty bits.  Too hard, and apologies to Greg for the spin.  Hung on grimly to the end.

Took a look Dean. Doni doesn't do anything wrong, he holds his line to the right but you get a massive bit of warp as you pass on the right. There is quite a gap between the cars and you suddenly veer off. Clear warp. That was just unlucky.

I'd like to dedicate this win to Ronnie, who gained pole, and looked set to take the win.  

By lap 5, I was already rehearsing my 69x winners speech, when I was rudely awoken by the smell of smoke, and noticed a slower car across my path, at an inconvenient spot.  A gaggle inhaled the fumes, but failed to slow.

This was not the first unplanned abberation to my evening.  I've come to realise that 1960's office chairs become mechanically unsound, if used too often.  This means I've recently been racing with an unexpected degree of inclination, not to the track, but to the ceiling.  And at Mosport, I arrived suddenly 10cm closer to the floor!  This helps ones centre of gravity, but it also becomes harder to see over the steering wheel. Might be time to modernize? >:(      

Meanwhile, back at the track, I'd managed to haul in much of the inconsiderate gap, after my avoiding spin, to frontrunners in their outmoded transportation.  And that's when a careless pit Armco carelessly caught my attention, as it caught my RF wheel.  So the win was lost, but the car was intact, and continued at a pace that was no disgrace, to provide a fun race.  Curses - 4th place!

The replay suggests there may be more than warp involved in contact with a battling Dave C.  Sorry Dave, it was hard to figure your intentions.  Glad there was no serious harm done.  However, I suggest this was reason to prevent ones promotion, to Ukgpl's racing Royalty.  Why have I gone purple in the race result? :euro:

That makes it more like racing to me. You never know what might go wrong. I imagine we've all gone through it at some point. I spent weeks tuning my computer like it's a car or something and I'm still tinkering with it.



Thanks for reminding me to congratulate Dave. Very nice job! You were in position to capitalize on any mistake I might make. I watched some of the replay. That was a great battle. I don't know how Dave kept that engine in one piece. I've shied away from the Cooper after blowing the engine at Jops.


LOL! It didn't help much Axel. In the last practice session before qualifying, I set the wing to 1.5 degrees. It's been a long time since I experienced so much oversteer. My suspension was already very soft so I stiffened the springs front and rear but more on the front to dial out the oversteer. I also had to cut the wing back to 1 degree. That got me back to the times I was posting without any wing but I can't say I got any improvement.


That's alright Mark. Crap happens! I made the wrong choice. There wasn't much room on the inside but putting a couple of wheels in the grass would have got me by. That's just stuff that's going to take more experience for me.


LOL, you've got a bit of comedian in you. That's a very colorful and humorous description! Every once in a while the lock on my chair comes loose and I lean back too like I've suddenly launched off the line in a dragster.

Thanks Doni. That was an interesting story. I enjoyed reading it. It made me wish I could have been there.

ok Guys but...which cars we will use the next race at Mosport ?

Thanks

Can't recall what happened (I'll have to watch the replay now!);   but I know I was hoping that you'd through it away somewhere so I could regain my 'rightful' position :)

Of course,  that didn't happen & you rudely scampered off,   whilst & had more & more excursions.   The damage was clearly heavy & not visible :)

Although,  from looking at the GPLRA lap-chart-thingy,  you would have breezed past & been up the road anyway.  Dammit!

Cheers,
Dave.