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Welcome to the S27 F2 Championship - Round 1 - Enna

First stage of the S27 F2 tour is a trip to Enna in Italy, a circuit created for the Formula 2 Mod.

Enna Pergusa circles lake Pergusa in Siciliy. Historically it did host a non-championship Formula 1 Race, the Mediterranean Grand Prix.  There are no chicanes & no left hand turns. Being a short, high speed track it should produce some close racing & drafting opportunities. Watch out for turn 4, the entry looks a lot faster than the exit.  

There will be no handicaps this season but, much like the 67-based series, tokens will be used!

Matra MS7 FVA : 16 tokens
Matra MS5 FVA : 14 tokens not 12!
Brabham BT23 FVA : 14 tokens not 12!
Lola T100 FVA : 14 tokens
Lotus 48 FVA : 14 tokens
Lotus 41B FVA: 12 tokens
McLaren M4A FVA : 12 tokens
Protos 16 FVA : 10 tokens
Lola T100 BMW : 10 tokens
Cooper T84 FVA : 6 tokens
Ferrari 166 : 3 tokens
Brabham BT14 LF : 0 tokens

Please check the Season 27 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=448&theme=6) regarding rules and the Formula 2 Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=455&theme=6) pages in particular.

There will be two championships - Lights and Heavies (for slower drivers) who will contest separate championships but on the same grid.

You have ONE SHIFT-R with a Stop n Go of 0 seconds!
Only Reported incidents moderated outside the Red Zone
Full moderation of lap one Red Zone

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
Variant = 1967 Formula 2
Damage Model = Intermediate
Track = Enna (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7533)
Race length = ~40min -> 33 laps
Race date = Sunday 27-07-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Qualifying time = 45 - 30 minutes
Race time = ~21:30 UK time
Red Zone = First lap
Replays = here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/F2s/)

Please restrict chat to only urgent messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave a full (19 driver) server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Tokens will make this season more interesting....

Still the first race will be filled with MS7's prolly, at Enna, but I like the new system as we will get more diverse grids starting with race 2 :)

I do hope so, as it will not be the fastest car around here   ;D

I've got that seat moulded to my arse groove well though.... :(

Apologies for muffing up the series header - the token values should be correct now. You can always see the actual values under the 'scoring' link in the Championship table header.

tomorrow starts the new season, but I would like to know about the last season

To be honest Marco the whole thing is best forgotten. Just pretend it never happened, I have  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It has the verified F2 WR here, which is run in clean air  ;)

There would also be the pickle of which grid I was scored on, for I was racing one grid and changed to scoring on the other!  :-\

Having done some quick and dirty testing (default setup), anything not running an FVA is going to suffer. :)

I'm having great difficulty getting below 1m13's here without tow  ::)

I think that goes for most/all of us Bernie  ;)

PS: Just managed it by pumping up the tires like balloons, in the MS7...

LOL, I'm having great difficulty with one.

I haven't forgotten Marco and I PROMISE it will be donw by this weekend. I am as keen to get it clear as you.

I seem to have no difficulty getting below 13.01 with or without tow...   ;D

Half a freekin lap get rear ended ffs play the game boys  :'( :'( :'(

Hmm - didn't last long. Hit an upside down red thing and rolled for more than ten seconds.... I kid you not.

As with Bernie, I am less than impressed with being rear ended.

Replay or it didn't happen. :P

AFM, guilty party on Billy, who braked much earlier than I thought he would have for T4, and just could not avoid him.

Prior to that, had used up my one reset and SnG when the engine smoked 4 laps in whilst running second.

Just cannot get a break. :(

Did I enter the right race. This was the F2 series and not some Banger racing series  :laugh:

Great fun when in company with Clive, Dave and Marco. But lonely when not.

Grats to the podium of Robert, Axel and Dean.

Bernie

You, like I, were both taken out by Fran on lap one. It was completely unacceptable driving behaviour.  A classic case of trying to win the race on the first lap.

I qualified last, not really a surprise given I had taken zero token Brabham. I found it difficult to believe how poor this car is in comparison to all the others. It pretty much went backwards from the get go, and my only hope was to take draft where I could, and of course Fran took that opportunity away from me. I did however make an amazing start and over took two or three people away from the grid. Fran was behind me and he, Rog and I went into the second corner together, and he just drove into me.

Not only did I meet this Race difficult for myself by taking the most uncompetitive car on the grid, but I also had to drive it one-handed. No jokes about that boys, I have suspected fracture in my right arm. I wasn't going to enter at all until I realised that the track lends itself to an automatic box. As practice went on however, I considered going to a manual box and using the button and flappy paddle on my dear old G25. A quick test convinced me it was worth the gamble and I went for it. At the end of the day I have some points… not many ...And more importantly some tokens and that I can use when my hand gets back to normal.

My race ended on lap 29 just after Marco had overtaken me. We went into the second last bend and I took it just like id  taken 28 previous times. Marce however just ground to a halt in the middle of the corner I couldn't do anything but smash into him. I would not accept any blame for this.

Sorry for any comedy grammar in this post. I have dictated it on my iPad. I really really really need to train this ******** to recognise my voice better, as it has taken ages to edit it.

See you all soon

Arf,
I hope you can use both arms soon, my best wishes!

Don't be surprised about the points, as it is related to the BT14 database bug!
I hope we can fix this soon with the help of Gizmo!

Was turned over in the second lap (not yet seen the replay!) but this let me have a phantastic catch-up race.  ;D ;D ;D
Another boring win for Rob  :P WD and Gratulations.

Thanks Cookie

Re points: Yes it is amazing how many records I appear to have set this race. I wouldn't have been surprised to have been slowest driver ever however I seem to have earned the right to have my times in purple above, and if I go to my driver history it appears I won that race from pole with the fastest lap! Amazing :-)

Check out the replay for P. Whitfield between 2:13 and 2:47 THIRTY FOUR SECONDS.... grrrrr.

That was me, sorry.  :(

Impatient, trying to keep up with the fast guy, tried (not hard enough) to avoid hitting you, then wonderful GPL collision physics took over. Somehow found a gap in the fence to go through (didn't think there was one there at all, looks solid all the way around that corner), tried to find my way back to the track, then the armco started again so shift-r. Good fun after that, caught you a couple of times but never got past enough to make it stick. The punt you gave me into the barrier at T3 lap 28 is forgiven, seeing as I'd turtled you earlier.

Was quite surprised to see pitboard (I don't run prib) go from Doni behind by 6 seconds to Doni behind -1 lap with about five to go  :o. RF was flying tonight.

Almost (but not quite  ;)) felt guilty for stealing the last podium spot from GT at the line, after his clean consistent run. Hope those tokens he saved here pay off well later in the season. I'll be Coopered for a couple of races to make up for taking the MS7 here.

Poor Paul  :(

However you managed to bring the topspeed of the Lotus 48 to a staggering 1246kmh/775mph at a certain frame, actually you just went supersonic! Must make vid (when I have/make the time)  :angel:

Had a good setup that scrubbed off as less possible speed as well on the straights as the turns, but maybe 4th and 5th gear slightly too short. Got pole, and start went well. Could keep the lead, and Axel was content to sit behind me with Dean and Iestyn following him. On Lap 2 I went a bit deep in T4 and maybe this caught Axel out, he went wide and Dean couldn't avoid him. Noticed Iestyn looped it there just before.

From then on draft was broken and basically ran 13s in clean air and 12s in draft when I got closer to a car about to be lapped. Should have put more efforts in the fastlap, as Iestyn who followed me after I lapped him, got in a good lap. But ran out of laps and cars in front...

As Iestyn kept me company and I had to pass quite a few cars, it wasn't that boring. But it wasn't my aim to lap so many cars or to win with a big margin, it just happened. Iestyn could have easily drafted past me, but chose to use me picking up places, until Iesty went off I think...really good racer I can only hold off by exploiting setups or better prep :P

Well done Axel and Dean for podium, and finishers. Some good racing going on, but sadly also incidents and wrecks. Commiserations to those suffering from bad luck.

:) , I'm so pissed at myself! I thought the race was over after lap 32. I thought Axel just nipped me by a meter. I actually beat him across the line on lap 32. He kept the pedal down so I did too even though I thought the race was over. I wanted to get some slipstream since I got so little of it through the race and practice. I was just having fun when I tried the pass after the rock wall on lap 33. Had I realized by then the race wasn't over I would have followed Axel carefully through the last sharp turn. I didn't realize the race wasn't over until after I came out of the last sharp turn. I doubt you would have got me at the line then Dean if I weren't such a dummie! It was bad enough that Axel wiped out an almost 18 second lead.

That was a wild race! I was probably fortunate to have such little hp when Iestyn, Axel, and Dean had their melee. I was far enough back that I had time to avoid their cars. I made some nice moves to avoid Axel and later Jethro. The outside line I took into turn 1 was rather nice to see too. I was surprised to be in 3rd by lap 3. I was almost shocked to be in 2nd by lap 5 after Jethro's engine blew. After that I was all by myself. As soon as I got in 2nd, I knew some of the fast cars still could catch me. I saw that DaveR and Clive were a good distance back. After 5 laps or so I knew they weren't going to catch me but when I saw that Axel was closing on them I started wondering if he had enough time to catch me. I tried to keep the car in the 15.1's but I'd drop back to 15.5 regularly. Man, I needed Jethro's slipstream! I could have easily followed him onto the podium. I think I had something like a 16 second lead on Axel with 10 laps to go. Oh no! There goes 1.8 seconds on that lap. Darn, there's 1.5 on that one. He's going to catch me? Dean and Axel must be dicing some. The lead's not evaporating so quick. He's getting closer. I'm going to start weaving so he doesn't get as much slipstream. Oops, I make my first real mistake. The bad line into the last sharp turn causes me to hit the guard rail. Then all that's left for me to do is screw up that same turn on the last lap.


I've seen Jackie Stewart do 220 mph at the end of the 1st fast section in the BRM P115! You reminded me of that. I had to watch some replay to see how he did such a mind blowing lap time.

I wish I could have got some of your slipstream Rob. I was hoping you'd slow down for me. But I knew you didn't want to let me get close with my awesome Ferrari.  :laugh:  I'm real curious how fast the 166 will go in the slipstream. I did an easy 13.6 practicing with Axel prior to the race. I was only able to do 14.9 without one. 14.6 should be possible for me with more practice.

Congratulations Rob, Axel, and Dean! I'm going to get you someday for that one Dean. :)

And as Rob said, "Commiserations to those suffering from bad luck." It's a shame things got so ugly.

It looks like Greg and myself had the same idea about this race.  ;)

I confess that I was concerned that this race might have more than one "incident" and that a large number of tokens could be spent with little or no reward.  I decided almost immediately that I saw the track list for the season that i would run a cheap car here and hope to collect a few points.

Qually proved that although the Fez could not compete in the pure horsepower stakes, with the right gearing it would happily be towed along at any speed that the fast cars could generate  ;D.  Critical to this plan was to be fast enough through the corners to ensure that I stayed close behind those Protos' and Matra's.

So, all I had to do was to hook up behind the leading group and sit there....simples. Except that I not allowed for some fast cars being much slower through the important corners  :-\ and this cost me on lap ! when I exited the penultimate corner, behind a Protos, carrying far more speed and was obliged to take the inside approaching the sweep onto the S/F straight. I knew that I would probably be passed again once we reached max velocity, but with zero HP I could not afford to lose momentum. Then the world cartwheeled!!!
Remarkably the car landed back on 4 wheels and a quick drop through the gears appeared to indicate that everything was working. I fully expected to find something very broken at the next fast corner, but it all worked fine.
The rest of the race was a case of looking for the slipstream and I had some quick laps with Arf3 and David eventually Arf's Brabham was out grunted I think and once he lost the tow we were gone.

I could easily live with David's Protos and it would have been nice if he was just a little quicker  ;D, because I could see Axel and a few others gaining ground far too quickly  :-\ I was hoping to switch draft buddy as they came past, but there was so much jockeying for position that I could never tuck in behind anyone safely. It was on the last lap that I managed to switch from David to Doni and sneak an extra few points ::)

Grats to Robert on stunning pace and to Greg for keeping out of trouble and making the Fezza work here. Now to work out where to spend all of those lovely tokens  :D

I got the idea of driving the Ferrari from you. I was going to drive the Lola-BMW but when I saw you practicing with the 166 I started thinking I might ought to try it too. If Clive's driving a Ferrari at least there will be one person for me to race with. I started to grow rather fond of it in last season's Friday series and I started to use it at Jops in the F2 series, but Axel gave me the idea of using the Cooper instead. If it had the same power to weight ratio as the BT23 it would probably be my favorite F2 car. I could have had a higher top speed with a different gear set but I was worried about losing a lot of time if I spent a lot of time without a slipstream. I made the right choice.

I watched the replay more and noticed some things. It's a drag to set your fast lap on lap 4. I see that Arf set his fast lap on the lap after I lapped him. Say that 5 times real fast! Lap, lap, lap! I must have been the only car that couldn't quickly leave him behind.

I'm still mad at myself. If I'd have drove just a little bit faster, I could have got 2nd. My fooling around by weaving cost me precious tenths on the 2nd and 3rd to the last lap. And I lost precious tenths many other times too. I used too much of my determination on Saturday and didn't have enough left for Sunday. Plus I'm such a bonehead for not knowing lap 32 wasn't the end of the race.

That was a lot of fun. Enna is my favorite "oval". Enna and Phoenix International are about the only ovals I really like to race. It was also a joy to make such a good showing in a Ferrari on Sicily, one of my favorite places to race.

Thanks Greg, I think I've learnt to understand F2 well and how to get the setup right for optimum grip and speed for my driving style. Nowadays I brew a setup in GPLSM and it is often almost good out of the box. It saves so much time understanding how to setup for a specific mod..

Great drive in the 166 Greg, as well as Clive. Unlucky to not clinch a podium. Also respect to poor Arf in the slow BT14...

PS: a short Wacky Races vid is in the works ;D

Paul Whitfield as Dick Dastardly (http://youtu.be/llp7YoFfzw8)

nice vid - I guess some people have lots of spare time on their hands ;)

Paul - if possible; you're even more famous now!



Couldn't make it myself, although looked as if the grid was somewhat bulging.
Only managed to get my PC booting up again around 21:25,  so just about managed to try joining the race. Then found video driver must still have been screwed as no OpenGL support.  Nevermind.   Then went for a offline drive & found I was probably 10seconds a lap off the pace.

Maybe just as well then...

That's the advantage of being single and having a part-time job ;) But heard you had a real nice wife and she needs attention of course Dave  :angel:

According to Cruyff logic: every disadvantage has it's advantage...  ;D

PS: I hope your hardware probs are fixed and you can focus on simracing apart from your wife.

That's hilarious Rob!  :laugh: I'll watch that in the future when I need a laugh. I'm laughing while I'm typing.  :laugh: Thanks Rob!

I'll start saving more unusual replays. I usually forget but I'll try to remember.

That video is brilliant! ;D

Hehe yes :laugh:!

I'm the only one with penalty.Is quite strange that others incident,occured during the race,have not been reported.I'm sure to have seen a strong rear end shunt.I don't remeber lap and pilots invoved but is possible to know all from the replay.
Probably the victim of the incident is a friend of the of the other?

The rule is :  Only Reported incidents moderated outside the Red Zone.
I don't know why some drivers doesn't report incidents, they can have a lot of good (...or bad) reasons but you cannot accuse the moderation for that.

By the way, for this race the moderator has been very nice with you, because the following rule has not been applied :

First Lap Incidents
Due to the invariably catastrophic impact of first lap incidents (particularly start line incidents) they will attract an extra 1 place penalty.


 

Are you Reinier the moderator?Please don't interpret my words hurt,was not a critique against the moderator.Was simply an observation,since ,at lap 8 or 9,i was behind Nobrakes that was hit in the back by Walters.Simply strange that Billy don't report the incident.Others incident happen during the race,i have seen the cars out,but again without a report.
Usually i report not only the suffered but also the incident that i caused.