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Title: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: BadBlood on July 27, 2014, 07:46:18 PM +0100
Season 27 Historic Trophy - Round 1 - Brno

Welcome to the Season 27 Historics Trophy for 1966 model Chassis.

We start in the small Czech town of Brno for round 6 of the Championship - Beware the stiff drinks!

Brno was originally founded as a race circuit in 1930, the original course running counter-clockwise for some 29.1Km (18 miles) through 9 towns/villages. The inaugaral race was won by Lous Chiron in a Bugatti type 51 in 1931.

The circuit maintained this layout until 1937 when War brought racing to a close. In 1949 Brno re-opened - now running clockwise and at a shorter length of 17.2Km (10.7 Miles) passing through only 6 towns/villages this time. In 1964 the circuit was shortened again to 13.9Km (8.6 Miles) by cutting Zebetin from the route. In 1967 Mike Spence entered a BRM P83 in a race here - No other (then) current F1 teams were known to have raced here. In 1975 the circuit was again shortened down to a mere 10.9Km (6.77 Miles) in order to avoid running through Pisarky, Novy Liskovec, and Bohunice, it also removed a large section of the run through Kohoutovice. This layout remained until 1987 when the road course was finally closed in order to move the racing onto the newly purpose built race circuit situated just off the original course, between Ostrvacice and Zebetin were the races continue to this day.

We are using the long and somewhat tortuous Brno '49 layout. With the Pro settings, the victor might just be the driver who survives furthest.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under PRO rules so no resets are allowed.


For THIS RACE, 2 liter cars must be selected

For the first three rounds at least, there will be no restrictions.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Tuesday 29-07-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Brno (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/tracks/Brno)
Race length = 8 Laps
Variant = 1966
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = minimum of 30 minutes

Password see above (#post_event_password)
Replay will be here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/Historics/)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=457&theme=6)

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated, the red zone will be from the start to the exit of the first village. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only or at the Moderators discretion.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: BadBlood on July 29, 2014, 12:00:35 AM +0100
Quite looking forward to this although for me, making four laps will count as victory. sub 6.30 might be on so I might even not get lapped if I finish... that probably all means an exit on the first corner.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Walter Conn on July 29, 2014, 04:55:38 PM +0100
I registered as a reserve last night. I did a few practice laps, and I really like the track. If I am able to race, my goal will be to stay on the track, and hopefully finish on the lead lap.  :laugh:

I am able to see password; so there shouldn't be any problem with me joining. I just have to wait to see if I have the free time to race today.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Robert Fleurke on July 29, 2014, 06:48:48 PM +0100
IMO we need to make sure we go single file through the first village after the start. If anything we need a disciplined start here. I just wend two wide through it with Axel, but it isn't recommended  :P

Had a Brno65 leaguerace last Saturday, and we all went very disciplined single file through it after the start. Let's rather give room after the start than take it, but of course it's up to anybody ;)

One thing's for sure, a wreck there after the start WILL eliminate most of the field following. Now I just have to make sure  don't do it myself, knock on wood!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Cookie on July 29, 2014, 06:55:37 PM +0100
LOL, yes that was fun!

Of course I would never do this in a pro mode league race ;D

This BRM is a hog, but incredible fast :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Robert Fleurke on July 29, 2014, 07:01:28 PM +0100
LOL, yes that was fun!

Of course I would never do this in a pro mode league race ;D

This BRM is a hog, but incredible fast :P

That was pro Axel  ;D Like Hammy and Rosberg hehe...no you had a run, should have let you go earlier, before the turn...now I had to lift a lot!

I'm new to 66 mod. Did some laps at Cerne's wood with the 246, so...also had a Brno65 67 race, which helps....just have to put in the older Zebetin section and find out what works for me in 66...

Looking for some fun tonight, and some stiff competition :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: DLogan on July 29, 2014, 09:40:22 PM +0100
****. sorry to bernie especially.  :-[ Didn't think I was that close.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Robert Fleurke on July 29, 2014, 09:50:19 PM +0100
Not sure what happened at the start, but fact is the car didn't accelerate, prolly had my left foot slightly on the brakes, but everyone kept a cool head...

Then in Troubsko carnage, no way to avoid and many cars suffered...got damage prolly because later in a fast right hander where I took it easy went straight off and couldn't get back on track whatever I tried...disappointing start of the season...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Ronniepeterson on July 29, 2014, 09:58:15 PM +0100
Good luck to those still running.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: BadBlood on July 29, 2014, 09:59:09 PM +0100
****. sorry to bernie especially.  :-[ Didn't think I was that close.

Think that was M Rainier - it was unfortunate. Collected me but I thought I had just spun. Two hundred yards later engine gave up :( Shouldn't have practised....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: BadBlood on July 29, 2014, 09:59:56 PM +0100
Good luck to those still running.

Are there any?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Rainier on July 29, 2014, 10:15:31 PM +0100
****. sorry to bernie especially.  :-[ Didn't think I was that close.

Think that was M Rainier - it was unfortunate. Collected me but I thought I had just spun. Two hundred yards later engine gave up :( Shouldn't have practised....

Yes it was me.
I don't know how such an accident is possible in a straight line with no braking zone, no car moving from one side of the track to the other.
I don't like this kind of grid with fast drivers starting from the bottom (why were they not able to do one or two qualifying laps ? at least in this situation, they should be more cautious than ever, especially in a serie with no shif R allowed)

Bad start of the season, as 66 is not my favourite mod, I am not sure to continue this serie. At least my next 66 races will be done without training, the days before  :-\   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Ronniepeterson on July 29, 2014, 10:50:32 PM +0100
Grats to Tris, Doni and Walter.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Iestyn Davies on July 29, 2014, 11:00:09 PM +0100
I have to say that there is an argument for points being awarded to those who complete a lap or make 25% distance - here that would mean points for the top 6 or 7  :laugh:!

Spins on Q lap... 2nd lap, just made the tape... then looking at prib and just tagged Paul and span out. No worries, I would only have gained a row on the start grid anyway.

Race... got by Rob's slow starting Ferrari but he breezed back by me out of Village 1, as I couldn't pass Andreas up the hill. Into the first braking zone... around the corner.. and carnage! Gaps close.. sandwiched.. eventually make it out. Following Raoni down to the 49 exclusive village, and I again look at prib, miss the braking point, pile onto a lamp post on the inside (the lag continues through it and bumps off Raoni!); I didn't make it inside far enough, where you can fly and survive. Grats to the points finishers!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: bernie on July 29, 2014, 11:01:37 PM +0100
I have my own take on what happened here but will let the mods decide the outcome

Dean &  David come together ending both there races , Paul joins the party but gets lucky and is able to drive away,  but not before he spins and decides I only need a three wheeler Brabham in order to level things up a bit
.
Unfortunately for me I find its to dammed hard to drive the BT7 very far with one rear corner missing so decided to retire .

Looking at the results only 2 cars manage the full race distance  ???  

7 cars went out on Lap 1  :o  Why so many ?

Perhaps we need some new rules for avoiding these repeated lap 1 fiasco's ?

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: BadBlood on July 29, 2014, 11:08:02 PM +0100
The scoring is set via database parameters so scoring for Lap 1 is not possible to set up for Season 27. Hence my reticence to change the scoring system.

The only thing I can suggest is REALLY loose grids.

Dean misjudged that badly and that took four of us out. But it was really close to being fine :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Walter Conn on July 30, 2014, 01:04:15 AM +0100
Grats to Tris, Doni and Walter.

Thanks Ronnie! All I can say is that luck was on my side tonight.

Congrats Tristan and Doni, and commiserations for everyone else. On the bright side, each of us will drop our worst two results at the end of the season.

 Obviously the dangerous nature of the track led to numerous retirements, but that is one of the things that make the Historic tracks that much more special.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: DLogan on July 30, 2014, 03:33:08 AM +0100
Ok, revise apologies to include Paul and Dave as well  :( (I'd thought they were able to continue, I only saw Bernie motionless when I hastily checked before quitting in self-disgust).  :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: MagicArsouille on July 31, 2014, 03:10:31 PM +0100
HI :)
After a disco(screen freeze) in qual , I was not optimiste for the race....but Ican take the pôle in my last attempt....ON lap one, I'm lucky to go thru the carnage when I can't avoid Cookie( little bit optimiste on the breaks.....^^.....first lap, cold tires, full tank and many cars arriving....!!! tss...tss...tss !)...lucky Isaid, cause I'v been hurt 4 times before to have the possibility to escape....arglll !....the car seems to be OK....so.....gazzzzz ! I'm 3rd and not so far from those 2 lucky guys who avoid the crash.....
 .....the car was very good , and after taking the lead, i steel attaking, cause it's not the kind of track where you can change the rythme easely, so Ijust try to stay concentrate till the end.....on this very good and tricky track !
.....very sad the accident of the first lap, good fight missing !.....next time !.....

....but I'm happy whith this ( little bit to lonely ) victory.......

cua guys .... in Moulinzard :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Cookie on July 31, 2014, 03:19:12 PM +0100
Yes, sorry Tris, I misjudged the tow effect under braking...

GRRR, shame on me!
I pressed the ESC button as soon as possible, but was too late for the other Lemmings ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: Robert Fleurke on August 01, 2014, 08:15:15 PM +0100
got damage prolly because later in a fast right hander where I took it easy went straight off and couldn't get back on track...

Got damage to the left side from the Troubsko carnage, but still went in too fast for the first lap there...

Belated congrats to Tristan for the win, and Doni and Walt for the podium! Well deserved, because you always have to be there at the end...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: BadBlood on August 12, 2014, 10:24:12 PM +0100
Mod published


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Historic Trophy (66) - Brno - Jul 29
Post by: bernie on August 13, 2014, 10:28:41 AM +0100
Thanks BB for the great moderation , sure we all can learn something here  :)