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Title: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 22, 2014, 08:35:08 PM +0100
Season 27 Privateers Trophy - Round 4 - Monza

The Autodromo Nazionale Monza is a race track located near the city of Monza, north of Milan, in Italy.  Built in the Royal Villa of Monza park in a woodland setting, the circuit has gone through numerous changes over the years.  Perhaps the most striking feature in the park is the steep banked (sopraelevata) curves on the now defunct 10Km variant, first used in 1955.  The original circuit (used between 1922 and 1933) also had an oval section but the banked curves were not as wide or as steep as the later 1955 variant.  The banked circuit was used on four occasions for Formula 1 races; in 1955, 1956, 1960 and finally in 1961 when it was decided that Formula 1 cars were just too fast to be safe on the oval track.   The banked oval section was last used in any capacity in 1969.  From 1962 onwards, the Formula 1 Grand Prix was held on the "road circuit" which by the early 1970s was also deemed to be too fast for Formula 1 cars.  Two chicanes were introduced for 1972 Italian Grand Prix, one at the Ascari curve and another on the approach to the Curva Grande.  It is the 1960s road circuit without the chicanes that we will be using for tonight's race.  

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP = 37.157.48.87
Race date = Sunday 28-09-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Monza (Papyrus Original)
Race length = 33 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30 minutes

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/Grads_Privs/)

Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=452&theme=6)

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start to the exit of Serraglio on the first lap. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=452&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: francesco on September 23, 2014, 09:49:55 PM +0100
Turn 5 is the Parabolica?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 23, 2014, 10:15:25 PM +0100
Turn 5 is the Parabolica?
No, I meant Serraglio.  Race post updated.  Sorry for the confusion.  Good luck on Sunday Francesco.  A home race for you I believe ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: blito on September 24, 2014, 08:52:24 PM +0100
oh boy, this is not going too well...... Struggling with getting a decent setup here..... understeer and oversteer in the same corner.... so far I am way off the pace and very prone to sticking it into the bloody hedgerows!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: francesco on September 25, 2014, 08:01:53 PM +0100
Thank you Phil,I need luck.For sure more luck than the last F2race but i'm also worried for the engine.Normally,after some laps,there is the explosion ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: maddog on September 25, 2014, 09:31:59 PM +0100
Good luck Francesco!  Many times I say, you must connect the head to the foot, or the head explode. :yes:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: francesco on September 26, 2014, 05:50:05 PM +0100
Thank you Martin,but many expolosion were due to the ponteziometer of the gas not only to my foot.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: maddog on September 26, 2014, 09:20:27 PM +0100
Aha, Ok but many times is not good.  You give Enzo a testa rossa if you drive his cars this way.  I hope it is not too many 1967 lire to fix.  :hammer:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: dave curtis on September 28, 2014, 09:59:34 PM +0100

Early beer for me.

Had a real problem trying to get a 1st lap without crashing in qually/practice session;  was lucky to have (finally) managed a complete lap & 1:53 initially!
Laps then came together & was surprised with starting from 4th & lucking into 3rd early.  Then not so surprised at running out of road at Parabolica (someone should concrete that over!) & unfortunately not overly surprised when my DSL dropped out a few laps later.

Luckily there was no time wasted in practice;  just tokens...


Cheers,
Dave.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: blito on September 28, 2014, 10:34:55 PM +0100
a cheap race for me - the copper costs hardly any tokens and is so damned stable it made the perfect car for my first GPL race in 18 months.
I quallied last, but only just, and took a careful start.  After picking my way through the carnage at T1 it was a case of just cruising round to the flag, not risking anything by trying to actually race any one. I drove an almost perfect, if a little slow race to blag 7th place and some points.
Overall, a very satisfying comeback race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 28, 2014, 10:39:16 PM +0100
Quite a lonely race for me.  George was just too quick tonight.  I tried to stay with him on lap 1 but I had to give the Eagle behind me some room on the first few corners which just gave George enough time to get a gap and break the tow.  After that it was just a matter of waiting until George made a mistake which he never did.  Grats on the win George :clap:

Grats to Jason on a good finish in his comeback race :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: francesco on September 28, 2014, 10:40:43 PM +0100
My fears have become immediately tru,nor a lap.At the exit of the parabolica the first explosion.
After this the second (the manifold)more or less at the tenth lap.
What makes me angry is that during the qualification i have done about 20 laps without an explosion.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: bernie on September 28, 2014, 10:47:31 PM +0100
Parabollicup became a disaster area after I ran onto the grass and lost it trying to avoid Billy , Highlight of the race was wiping at least 4 competitors out including 100% of the soggie bottom team , and after I specifically asked for you all to go easy in T1  No further comment except to say will leave that one to the mods . Pretty lonely race after that , did my S/G then slowly ground my way back to P6 was glad to see the chequered finally .

Grats to the fast cats on the podium  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Michael Turner on September 28, 2014, 10:51:40 PM +0100
Exploding engines and spinning cars  - not a good start to the race.
After getting caught up in Bernie's episode I eventually managed to get myself pointing in the right direction but was left with wonky steering and an engine capable of a top speed of barely 170mph  - something of disadvantage at Monza.
I was eventually forced to reset and managed to finish the race with a few points in the bag.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Turkey Machine on September 28, 2014, 10:58:57 PM +0100
Results imported and replay available to download. Please let me know if there were any issues tonight with the server.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: BadBlood on September 28, 2014, 11:01:21 PM +0100
Did go easy in T1 but couldn't avoid a spinner. That cost me a stop but the Lotus enabled me to reel in several cars and then lose them all as the engine blew up and I was being VERY gentle with it.

Problems with the PC meant that my setup was far from ideal and it was a bit like driving a bar of soap. Went offline and practiced in the Eagle and got into the 1:30's comfortably with a super stable car - trying to go green made me crash a lot though...

Chasing Jase, David, Fran, Pierre, Michael was fun while it lasted. Back to the Brabby next time... and maybe a point or two would be nice...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Robert Fleurke on September 28, 2014, 11:15:55 PM +0100
Thank you Jethro for doing the honours tonight, and many congrats to George for his first win at UKGPL! :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 29, 2014, 12:45:17 PM +0100
Really struggled to find the braking point for Parabolica during qually  – which is daft considering how many times I’ve raced at Monza.

Start of the race worked out quite well, I missed all the accidents & saw a couple of front runners pop their engines. First few laps I was following Fabio but that all ended after a visit to the gravel trap at Parabolica. Dave C inherited 4th place but found it wasn’t to his liking & disappeared after a few laps. The last 20 laps were quite uneventful, not really making any in-roads to Fabio’s lead & not losing ground to Rainier in 5th. In fact most of my race was A Black Night Team event.

Cracking pace up front by George – a 1.27 lap would probably have won the Works race, never mind the Privateers. I could see a podium but that would have meant Phil or Fabio having a major problem & they were all very consistent.

Welcome back to the grid Jason – a cooper at Monza is a brave choice.

PS. Jethro - the server connection was very solid.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: cg7aa on September 29, 2014, 12:55:40 PM +0100
Quite a lonely race for me.  George was just too quick tonight.  I tried to stay with him on lap 1 but I had to give the Eagle behind me some room on the first few corners which just gave George enough time to get a gap and break the tow.  After that it was just a matter of waiting until George made a mistake which he never did.  Grats on the win George :clap:

Grats to Jason on a good finish in his comeback race :thumbup2:

Thanks. This was probably the best race I've driven in a while because I made few mistakes. I concentrated hard on hitting my marks. I dare say it would have been different if I was chasing or being chased.  The race pace was quite slow actually.  I was hoping to get into the 1min 27s and break Andy's fastest race lap from the last time we raced here but I just couldn't. Too conservative I guess.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: cg7aa on September 29, 2014, 01:01:55 PM +0100
Thank you Jethro for doing the honours tonight, and many congrats to George for his first win at UKGPL! :)

Thanks Robert. In the 10 years or so I've been playing GPL on and off, I must have run thousands of laps around Monza. Put me on a non original track of any length and I struggle. It takes me a while to learn tracks. My simple brain copes well with short uncomplicated laps well.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: GregT on September 29, 2014, 05:00:09 PM +0100
Congratulations George! Very nice times posted too!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on September 29, 2014, 09:06:38 PM +0100
Monza is always a beautiful track!!
I guess I did the best I could with a Brabby against Lotus and Eagle.
Anyway, first one of the Brabbies and first one of the Black Night's  :clap:
See you on Austria then.
Cheers from real Monza

fL


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: cg7aa on September 30, 2014, 05:31:41 AM +0100
Congratulations George! Very nice times posted too!

Thank you Greg. It sounds like you works boys had an eventful race! Looking at your qualifying times, us privateers have a long way to go in terms of finding time. Daunting task. You're so fast!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: bernie on September 30, 2014, 10:23:29 AM +0100
Congratulations George! Very nice times posted too!

Looking at your qualifying times, us privateers have a long way to go in terms of finding time. Daunting task. You're so fast!

LOL My heart bleeds , your qually time would have you in P3 on the works grid and  very close to 2nd  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: cg7aa on September 30, 2014, 12:50:55 PM +0100
Congratulations George! Very nice times posted too!

Looking at your qualifying times, us privateers have a long way to go in terms of finding time. Daunting task. You're so fast!

LOL My heart bleeds , your qually time would have you in P3 on the works grid and  very close to 2nd  ;D

LOL. Alright but the works drivers can sustain that sort of pace throughout the race and possibly go quicker I think.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Robert Fleurke on September 30, 2014, 03:59:57 PM +0100
It was for sure a Works worthy performance by George. To be correct his quali time would be good for P7, 6th fast lap, and his racetime would place him P3!

@ all Privateers: please report incidents before next Monday 06-10-2014!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: Robert Fleurke on October 06, 2014, 01:31:45 AM +0100
Moderator's report is up.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: bernie on October 06, 2014, 11:11:54 AM +0100
Gee Thanks  :)

and once again appologies to all who got caught up in my mishap  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: blito on October 06, 2014, 05:36:23 PM +0100
"Jason Blito and Pierre Demarle did a great job avoiding the mess."

Kind words but perhaps I am not deserving of such high praise, having qualified last I had the luxury of a leisurely cruise down the Curve Grande knowing there would be cars strewn all over the track by the time I got there. One simply cannot beat having a grandstand view of the carnage and time enough to ensure oneself does not get caught up in it. Perhaps if I spent more tokens on a better car then I may have been further up the grid and then I too would have ended my evening upside down and in flames.
As it was I benefited enormously from my total lack of pace.
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Privateers Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on October 07, 2014, 08:48:52 PM +0100
Moderator's report is up.

Thanks for your job, Robert