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Season 27 Works Trophy - Round 6 - Monaco

Welcome to Round 6 for the Season 27 Graduates Works Trophy, we're off to the glamour and high life of Monaco!

Circuit de Monaco is a street circuit laid out on the city streets of Monte Carlo and La Condamine around the harbour of the principality of Monaco. It is commonly referred to as "Monte Carlo" because it is largely inside the Monte Carlo neighbourhood of Monaco. A very challenging tight twisty circuit, few opportunities for passing but plenty of chances to hit the scenery. You’ve heard this before but please take care, especially on Lap 1!

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address = tbc
Race date = Sunday 26-10-2014
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time (21:30 GMT)
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Monaco (Papyrus)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Pro
Race length = 34 Laps (50 minutes)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/Grads_Works/)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=453&theme=6)

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated from the start to the exit of Portier on Lap 1. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Works (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=453&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

A reminder that the clocks went back an hour in the UK, so start times are now GMT/UTC.

Gotta love winter. :D

A good buddy of mine is a keen aviation enthusiast and pilot.  He likens his health to a four-engined B-17 bomber.  When suffering, he is heard to say, 'Engines one, two and three are burnt out and number four just started to belch blue smoke.'  That about describes my state of health today, too, as I attempt to recover from a nasty cold.  I'll be for today's Monaco round if only to pick up the start tokens.

Thanks for the heads-up on the start time revision, Jethro.  I showed up in iGOR at my usual time and saw...nothing.  That explains it.  Over here in North America, we're still on DST for another two weeks.

Best of luck Doni - I had lurgy for the last round and didn't last very long.
On a positive note I found the concentration and effort cleared my head nicely while driving though.  :)

Couldn't hook up with the server.  30 minutes of blowing my brains out trying a fix.  This happened for the last Pro race, too.

Looking at my modem, it might be the ISP connection as it doesn't look anywhere near as healthy as it should.  Gotta give 'em a call...

Survived 5 or 6 laps then had the worst shunt at the chicane for a while... one to forget I suppose.

Well what can I say Jethro and Greg.....................commiserations and sometimes you just have to laugh.

Bob, who started all the fun off by fluffing the chicane, heads off into the sunset and we dream of what might have been.

Good luck to Bob and all who are still running. See you all on track somewhere soon.

17:51.21 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> how it go?
17:54.06 <DLogan> aside from my spin before crosing the start line? I was far enough back in the grid (expected) that I started on the hairpin, could only start when others went (couldn't see flag), and was over-exuberant with my shift to second
17:54.23 <DLogan> ater that it just went downhill
17:54.30 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> 
17:54.49 <DLogan> honda hates cold tires
17:55.32 <DLogan> couple more clumps into armco and i think i broke a drive shaft
17:55.58 <DLogan> wouldn't go straight
17:56.30 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> whale had bent flipper?
17:56.56 <DLogan> limp around finish another lap doing rapid mental math to figure chances of actually getting to 50% distance at 2:05 a lap
17:57.17 <DLogan> while frantically scrambling out of anyone's way
17:57.23 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> heh
17:58.36 <DLogan> and looped it into casino, made it a real tricycle, so gnite Irene
18:00.02 <DLogan> stupid monaco

That's about all we could do. I wish the flagman had given me some warning. I was wide open into the chicane. I missed Bob, I couldn't miss Ray. I wish you had sat still but then Jethro likely would have collected me. It's a shame I couldn't get a good qualifying run. I might have got to miss all that excitement. I botched the start too. I couldn't tell which engine was mine with all those roaring Repcos :)

Take care guys.

Hey Ho...there I was, sitting in 9th when the crash ahead turned it into 6th... then I passed Iestyn at the side of the road and it was 5th... tried hard to concentrate, and for a change succeeded, only for the engine gremlins to take it away from me on Lap 18. Unless anyone is crawling round that's a safe but disappointing 9th....

Lots of business travels in next few weeks, so not sure when I will see you all next.

Arf

Bob, you're a fiend! You create chaos, get a good look at your handiwork, and then merrily motor away. I'm guess I'm one too after my similar performance at Dundrod. And we call Clive, evil?

It's bound to happen. It sucks to lose the driving time though. :(

Yeah sorry for the drama, is it any consolation that it was the only time I didn't get it right through there?!   Course not, only good thing is that it wasn't L1.  It was a genuine mistake but you shouldn't really have to put up with that at this level, I'm ashamed to have caused the retirements of 3 other drivers, especially when I was able to continue without any apparent damage.

I did manage to carry on after that, a pretty lonely race most of the time in 4th.  At times I was holding the gap ahead to Tim but couldn't catch him and in the final few laps backed off a bit, but it wasn't enough and the engine blew just before the tunnel on the penultimate lap...gutted.  I thought the engine was fine, temperature totally okay and didn't think I was revving too much, as there isn't much point in the torque beast.  I did do one speed shift that I can remember, perhaps that was all it took.

WD to all finishers, no mean feat around this place.

See you next time,

Bob.

First get well soon Doni, and a shame you couldn't collect some tokens...

Didn't look forward to Monaco, a downer track for me and hard to get around with my 270degree wheel (can't use steering hack with 100% linearity I think, feels wrong) and 10:1 strg ratio...so chose the BRM, in testing it didn't went that bad, but still off the pace compared to the faster guys, and getting tight real soon burning LF tire...

Qualified midpack in a messy session in which it was hard to get a reasonable lap, and started real easy. Early laps was running 10th, behind Arf with Andy close behind. Settled down but made a few mistakes after 10 laps touching armco and wall. With all the attrition I was suddenly 6th and after Arf had to retire 5th. I had no pressure from behind and it was just matter to try to finish. Tommie lapped me in the last 10 laps or so and did inherit 4th when Bob blew up...

A huge problem for me is the chicane after the Tunnel. At some point in 36FPS races I lose my concentration there, hard to explain, like blacking out, flickering. It was a miracle I made it through there 33 times. Not sure if it is 36FPS + LCD monitor +Tunnel, or my eyesight, maybe both. Also for some reason had in my mind 38 laps and also still had a lot of fuel left...I wonder if there are others having probs out of the Tunnel with their focus, like your eyesight is shutting down for a moment...

Anyway, congrats Tommie for a great win, dominant, and Clive and Tim for a great race and result as well. A lot of tough luck for many, but still a great job by all finishers and classifiers. In particular Andy with his 17th consecutive finish I think. Commiserations to all retirements, very tough luck for some...

Might enjoy this track better with a better wheel with more reach, and arguably 60FPS ;)

Robert it was nearly the same for me, as I have my problems here too.

I even switched back to the original track of the CD to minimize all possible distortions...

I took the BRM for some tokens, but was such stressed after some laps that I just quit totaly exhausted.

For 2015 I will join only 60fps races, maybe we can do it with UKGPL, if not there are lots of other leagues using it.

Thanks Axel, sorry to hear...though in a way it's good to hear I'm not the only one ;) Wonder eyestrain damages your eyesight? Maybe it's just my mind but suspecting my eyesights is worse than it used to be...but I passed the 40s eh? ;)

Also hoping UKGPL will make a switch to 60FPS, we need to include it in the S27 mid-season feedback topic, I do expect a majority to vote in favour of it. Still on a P4 machine and can run 60FPS at most tracks...

Would be a step forward IMO :)

To be clear on Robert's point, this was the 20th consecutive finish (including the 3 Joe Shaw memorial races) of the  Pro races I have started in UKGPL in the 67's (I was at Goodwood when the Charade race was on).
I failed to finish a number of races in Season 25, mostly my own fault. The last failure was at Montjuic last November. Most non finishers either speedshift or make bad choices in the first 3 laps, so I've been trying hard not to do that.

At Monaco I thought the start was very civilised. From my view it looked like a procession with no rash moves. Drivers looked happy to let things settle down before getting racy. I just held my position (apart from getting ahead of Tom alongside into T1) until the flag. Sometimes qualifying puts the faster drivers ahead of you and the slower drivers behind ! All that happened in this race was attrition.

Congratulations to Tommie on the pole, FL and win hat trick, and to all finishers, commiserations to non finishers.

I race 60 fps elsewhere and prefer it. I did, however, see some fps drop last night at Monaco in qualy and at the start.

Now I've jinxed myself, be aware that I'm bound to crash hard and take out half the field at Road Atlanta lap1.

Had a quick look through the replay to check for any incidents of note.  So far only found one which I've reported so the drivers involved will be notified.  Please note, this is not a witch hunt, I'm just letting the drivers involved know the incident has been spotted.  If you want to comment on the incident using the court system please do so.  However at the risk of pre-empting the report I doubt anyone has anything to worry about.  Overall it was a pretty clean race punctuated by some self inflicted crashes and a few engine blow-ups.

A question for Works Admins ~
Points table says i have 15 tokens, but according to the rules i should have 10 since i didnt start first five races.
So i protest  ;)


Monaco~
Happy to have lasted the race minus last 2 turns.
Which means i crashed in the chicane on the last lap and dropped from 7th to 9th.

Also had a spin in the chicane on L1, but if you are gpl rusty chicane is a place where you'll feel it.
No way i would've survived the race without a big lift before the crest on each lap.

If there is a my problem, its my focus, nothing external like fps, imo.
You wouldn't believe it, but i had severe problems keeping the car straight on the straight in my first practice laps after a long break.
Mindset needed for gpl is indeed a wildly different beast from the mindset needed for the #normal# life.
Need meditation before the start  :angel:

Thanks Ivan, we will look into it. Good job at your comeback despite the last lap mishap. :)

Woohoo, a Grads win!

Not much to say really, I ran a one lap wonder early on in quali which put me safely in the front. Didn't get away too well at the start, but it was enough to keep P1 in front of Iestyn, who was really hustling that BRM around like it was a Brabham! Amazing pace Iestyn! Must be really close to WR pace! Also a joy to watch in the replay. After the first lap I managed to get my nerves under control and pull away considerably, then it was just a case of consolidating the lead and not crash.

Amazed by the number of sudden, non-speedshift related blowups in the race. Felt particularely bad for Iestyn who was driving a wonderful race. It reminds me of Sebring S21, where because of the runway bumps the attrition rate because of mechanical failures was high.

Got back in the championship race now, but Tim will be tough to catch!

Thoroughly enjoyed that race - I was generally close to/catching/battling someone from the drop of the flag up until somewhere around Lap 20 where I messed up my braking into the final turn while continuing to chase Clive - After that I made a few silly errors and made contact with the Armco for no real reason a couple of times and fell back :(

The first 11 laps stand out for me as some of the best racing I've had in a 67 for yonks, especially the exchange of 4th with Clive on laps 9/10 and the running battle one either side of those moves.
Gutted I out braked myself and half span only half a lap after passing Clive - an equal shame he didn't see me along side a couple of laps later when I took advantage of one of his mistakes and tried to pass on the hill, It's a good thing they still had the pavement as runoff back in '67!

Tom: It's not that much of a lead so I'd say you have a pretty good chance at the championship still  :'(

Mod report published.