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Season 27 Privateers Trophy - Round 5 - Spa Francorchamps

The original triangular shaped course, which was designed in 1920 by Jules de Their and Henri Langlois Van Ophem, used public roads between the towns of Spa, Malmedy and Stavelot.  The course was extremly fast and was made even faster in 1939 with the introduction of the famous Eau Rouge section.  The circuit was completely revised and shortened for the 1981 Belgian Grand Prix but it is the faster 8.761 mile version of the track that we will use for this race.

The 8.761 mile version of the circuit was used between 1946 and 1970 and whilst corners like Eau Rouge, Burnenville and particularly Masta; presented the drivers with exceptional challenges the circuit was very dangerous and claimed the lives of many drivers. 

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL9
IP = 37.157.48.87
Race date = Sunday 26-10-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Spa (Papy original)
Race length = 15 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30 minutes

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/Grads_Privs/)

Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=452&theme=6)

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start to the exit of Les Combes. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=452&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Need to sit this one out guys, been doing overtime all day and im knackered!
See you all in two weeks!

DSL dropped out again.
Well, the start seemed ok. Then once I ran off & [presumably] subsequent offs/pile-ups in sympathy;   was in a nice gap by the time the resets had taken place.
Then it all went really quiet...

Good luck all.

Cheers,
Dave.

I wasn't really able to get the feeling with the car, that's all.

It's about 22:00 & iGOR suggests 2x active drivers on the server?!  If true,  I've just seen them dropping like flies!  eh?!

Can't always believe IGOR.  There were 6 or 7 finishers.

Bit gutted - PB in qually, got tagged in Eau Rouge and set off third last, had to be careful behind Phil, passed about ninety crashing cars on Lap 1, blew an engine, got passed in the pits, set off to chase Dave, caught him at Masta. Crashed lap 3 as my daughter distracted me and the engine gave up again. No engines blown in 40 laps of practice - three in qually and race.

I just can't buy any luck this season :(

Brabby for me from now on.

Qualified last and so I tried to be careful on lap 1 and hoped to pick up a few places if there were any incidents.  Sure enough picked up 2 places at Eau Rouge and then there was another crash somewhere around Blanchimont.  I almost picked my way through the carnage but got tagged and spun around by the very last car.  But I was up to 4th and managed to get 3rd by passing Francesco.  Things were looking good until the very last lap at Malmédy when I ran out of concentration and spun.  George sailed past and I had to settle for 4th.  Grats to Dave and Bernie, very fast and very consistent.  Unlucky Bill, I was never going to catch you.

Blimey, I'm glad I didn't moan about my perceived misfortunes at the start of the race (to be fair, my mood was vastly improved by ending up on the podium in the end). You had a torrid time. :( Chin up.

I was resigned to 4th and was slightly miffed at that, then you had your moment; until the very end, I didn't know it was the third place car I had passed. I just squeezed by though as I saw you late. I had another close call with a car which had blown its engine, again I saw it very late, there were no flags and I barely hang on as I jinked out from behind. Phew.

Nice driving George. WD.

Incredible,a race without explosion of the engine the only explosion during the qualifications.
After the overtake of Phil i was in his trail when i have done my unique error at Blanchimont,error that cost me the 4th position.Cg7aa was faster than me but, without this error, i don't think that he would had the time to join me.
The next race is Road Atlanta(Full) ,what mean? Is Road Atlanta 71 of Gauss?

All rather disappointing.  I must have had pole for about 20 mins of qually until David popped in a very quick late lap.

Started reasonably well  but I have problem concentrating enough to keep the Eagle on the track for more than a few  consecutive laps. I brushed the hedge at Malmedy which let Bernie through. Bernie was flying in the Lotus & I pushed too hard chasing him. Lost the car in Stavelot, took a reset & span out again on the same lap.

Well done to David - a consistent drive to the flag. Bernie seems to have got his mojo back.

Will be back in the BT24 for the rest of the season.

Too many errors on L1 and a blown engine before the halfway point meant an all too familiar lonely race though there was some consolation in seeing a Soggie on the podium. Congrats to Bernie :)

I'm disappointed ...with your final result !  ;)
I counted on you (and other Black Night teammates) to take some points to Phil Thornton, the leader of this serie !

I noticed something strange but maybe you already are aware : I did my best to take the pole in a correct but not exceptional at all 3min19sec90 but on Sunday morning I did some practices on EOLC server (on VROC).
This EOLC server was using 60FPS and I easily did my all times best in SPA : 3min17sec70 after only 3 training laps.

It seems, we run 2 or 3 seconds less a lap with 60FPS (on a track like SPA) .
Did anyone else already noticed that ?  

About the race, nothing to say : I saw no car at all during the race as I was leading from start to finish.
I was just looking sometimes at Pribluda to see the gap with Bernie and Billy.
It was a little bit boring but I am happy to win and to take some points to Phil !    

What mean this? use you the 60fps during the race?I'm not updated on this.
Anyway seem me that you and others ,like Bernie and Nobrakes,have done an improvement this year.
The last season we was, more or less, in battle now you are more faster than me.

Fran,
All UKGPL races are at 36 fps. I don't think the server will allow drivers to enter using 60 fps.
If you look at the starting grid the top three cars were Eagle / Eagle / Lotus. I think it was more to do with the chassis than drivers ability. If we all use the same car I'd expect that David, Phil & George would be the quickest, but not by so much that other drivers can't challenge them.
David - I will test the Eagle at 60fps & let you know if it makes any difference. Are you suggesting it makes more difference at high speed circuits like Spa? To get a good lap time there are several corners where you have to carry lots of speed & the car will drift on the exit. Perhaps this makes a tiny difference at 60 fps where the GPL physic engine measures the grip the car is able to achieve?

No it's not possible to connect with 60FPS if the server is 36FPS and vice versa.
There is a blocking message "you are not allowed to ....bla bla ..."

We are not cheating ;)

Bernie, Billy and me were faster because we drove Eagle or Lotus.

Yes, this is due to the better visibility and smoothness of the game! The lap isn't shorter but you do better!
I allways do my offline preparation in 60fps mode as it is also better for the eyes  ;)

Last night I left the Monaco race due to some severe eyestrain...

I have decided to do only 60fps races in 2015. Lots of leagues do it allready and my eyes are not getting better with 65...

Interesting point of view, Axel.

I also read in F1legends forum, setups are not always running in the same way with 36 or 60FPS. It's essentially about gearbox ... ???

No! I never had such an experience!

The setups are fully compatible, but the cars react faster with this nearly double feedback.
All in all you just have a better feeling of the car and can steer more precise.

For close racing there are smaller crashbox spikes too.

Not inly for this ;D,there is also an improvement.

Can't speak for the others Francesco but my Spa PB in the Lotus from a few years back was in the low 3.18's , I couldn't get anywhere near that time today .

The Lotus is so easy to drive here , any one of you could be on the podium using it , that's why I spent the points , Iv'e lost count of time since I had last stood on a GPL podium , when they used to come fairly often some years back ,  so feel chuffed in a small way, it wasn't an easy race for me as I had a bad cramp attack in my gas foot and my shifter started to play up during the last laps , I survived a couple of spins , luckily no one was close enough to take advantage,  probably down to the lap 1 incedent ?  .

I had made a poor start and with cold tyres it seemed an age to get them up to race temps , I could then slowly start to catch Billy , then he made a mistake and I went through , I could keep the gap to David about the same for a while ( aroundd 9 secs ) , but couldn't do anything to catch the flying eagle so decided to settle for P2 , thats when i started cruising and begin to lose concentration , 15 laps was way to much for me , no way could I have made a race with anyone had they caught me and was very relieved to see the chequered waving .

Grats to David  on a fine win  and teamy Mike for a strong finish . well done all those who got through to the end ! 

Yes the Lotus is the best,i have seen in my test .The Honda the worst.
Anyway i must use the Brab. becouse i have few token.

A good choice for the Brabham , championships have been won using just this car !

Took a quick look through the replay, have reported the Lap 1 Red Zone incident between George and Paul for them to give their views.

Noticed the carnage on the same lap in Blanchimont, when both Dave Curtis and Michael Turner spun. Will leave it up to the drivers to report this one, however as far I have seen the aftermath was a chain reaction and most unavoidable. Unfortunate though for all involved.

I was involved . I found a Ferrari,after the curve,askew,but for me is impossible to report this.Both my replay and the replay of UKGPL,give an error on my PC.

Thanks Rob. Done my bit. Over to George.

I had an email about an incident but when I followed the link it took me to an incident report from Feb this year at the Nurburgring, maybe I missed something.

That's weird. I will send you a PM George.

Moderator's report is published.

Thanks for your job Robert

good report thanks  :)

Well done Bernie and Mike, keep the flag flying.  And congratulations on fastest lap Bernie.

Thank you Daddy!

Nice to see you still keep in touch Clive . Yes the bottoms do keep rising to the top on the very rare occasion , sadly getting few and far between these days .

A public apology to Paul.

I only got round to watching the replay last night.  I had no idea you were there.  It's the sort of thing if you saw on TV you would ask what on earth the BRM driver was thinking and that's being polite. It looks appalling from the outside. I was frantically checking my mirrors left and right several times after the flag dropped like I always do at the start while trying to maintain a straight predictable line but you were stuck in my blind spot all that time until it was too late. You would have been well within your rights to cry foul and demand a penalty.