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Title: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 09, 2014, 03:07:38 PM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=461&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (22 laps)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr), Jaguar D-Type (1957 only) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Maserati 450S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s), Aston Martin DBR2 (includes GTC-65 class fix) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr2), Ferrari 375 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_375plus)

Drivers are reminded that they are restricted to three drives per make. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdGNxQzBYb3JDV3J4d0NLWTNzM1NDR2c&usp=sharing)

Track: Oakes Field Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_oakes_field)

Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: x2

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: No start lights. Advise switching on in-game countdown.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: SpecialKS on May 05, 2015, 07:47:58 PM +0100
Another little teaser: Sebring 1957

https://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/17344423936/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/17344423936/)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 05, 2015, 11:46:41 PM +0100
Nice find Kurt  :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: 55steve55 on May 06, 2015, 08:47:32 AM +0100
Some really nostalgic images there, Kurt. Makes me want to drive there again. Any set of wheels would do 8). The two best pictures? Stirling with Steve, what a combination and I'm wondering what particular event brought them together that day. My other favourite - image 19, the mechanic in high heels :nono:



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: SpecialKS on May 06, 2015, 08:20:28 PM +0100
Louis Galanos aka Nigel Smuckatelli wrote a lot of interesting stories over at SportsCarDigest:

http://www.sportscardigest.com/author/louisg/ (http://www.sportscardigest.com/author/louisg/)

 :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 10, 2015, 12:06:19 PM +0100
The April 1st stories are good.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 10, 2015, 07:49:15 PM +0100
When entering pits for refuelling etc go to the right of the pit chief (cross the yellow line). He won't notice you if you go to the left.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 10, 2015, 07:52:06 PM +0100
This pit lane has a speed limit of 80KPH (50MPH). I'm suspicious that the pit lane speed limiter isn't working but I need to test this. It works but I could do 60MPH with no penalty  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on May 18, 2015, 09:42:52 AM +0100
pfff, this week i am away for a business trip. Wil be back for the IMSA race on Daytona though! Happy racing all.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: SpecialKS on May 18, 2015, 10:14:06 AM +0100
Nice track - I'm about 8 seconds slower in the Jag than in the Aston   ???  :-\

CU tonight


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 18, 2015, 12:45:06 PM +0100
Me too Kurt. Still I'm in good company  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: hayman3131 on May 18, 2015, 06:17:27 PM +0100
Hi

some laps training done, offline and online. funny: online track has much more grip..............................2:44.3xx, so far

cya later
hayman


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: BillThomas on May 18, 2015, 08:48:59 PM +0100
Early bath again tonight - lost it on final bend and finished up in a field behind the pits, couldn't go back or forward! ??? ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 18, 2015, 10:23:00 PM +0100
Replay and results now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: misnoimis on May 18, 2015, 11:16:38 PM +0100
I decided to take the Maser 450S 5.71 monster for this race. It has a massive speed advantage but is not so hot on the corners thanks probably to my set up. This made for some interesting racing for me and I had some good battles.

All was going OK until my tyres started going off. I should have dived into the pits, I had the chance but I stayed out an extra lap and paid the price, I span.

I lost places so I was now racing different drivers. After a dodgy out lap on cold tyres I started to get going and was having a good battle with FLA$H, occasionally passing him on a straight and getting re-passed on the corners.I was trying to work out where to try to pass him to stay in front for the finish. This turned out to be a bit optimistic. With a couple of laps left my tyres literally went off the cliff as they say in F1. Probably caused by chasing FLA$H too hard through the corners and spinning the tyres up out of them. I think I discovered the true meaning of “taking the  Maser for a Spin” or multiple spins in my case. I plummeted down the finishing order realising that it would have been a good idea to do a long practice stint and find out what the Maser was like on shot tyres. A bit late now but something to bare in mind for future long races.
 
Thanks to all and grats to Coyote who showed how the Maser monster should be driven and grats to podiums.  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Erling G-P on May 19, 2015, 10:18:29 AM +0100
Was looking at the D-Type early on, as I have to start using the darn thing soon, but offline testing suggested the Maserati had a huge advantage here, so settled for it instead.  Surprised that there weren't many more of them present in the race.

A massive improvement of my pb secured pole in qual.  Most of L1 was a bit hairy, as the noise of nearby cars meant I couldn't hear my own tyre squeal.  Made a cautious start, as it's so easy to overcook it and lose control in the Monster Maser.  Thus lost a couple of places at the start and through the first corners.  Wasn't worried though, with all that power and all those straight sections.  Sure enough, I had regained the lead later that lap.  Thanks to Hayman for keeping the door wide open for me, in most sporting fashion  :)

In the big Maser, you could do 17 laps and then pit for a quick splash-n-dash.  I wanted to change tyres though, as it's more than a handful when they're worn, and offline testing suggested I would lose more time on worn tyres, than the time it takes to change them - with the added risk of flying off track and surely lose more time.  In previous races however, I have been upstaged by drivers skipping the tyre change, so worked hard to build a gap large enough to make it a non issue.  Succeeded with that, and pitted at the end of lap 11 and a very lonely 1st half of the race.

Down to 6th when I rejoined and set about chasing the cars in front, hoping for some action.  Caught and passed all of them either in or entering the pits, so not much drama there though.  Not much to do besides keeping it all together to the end, and trying to improve the fastest lap, so not the most exiting race, but obviously very chuffed with winning.

In retrospect it was maybe overkill to use the big Maser here, but I could not change my choice in the 11th hour - and with the downright frightening laptimes others were posting in lesser hardware, I doubt I could have bagged the win in anything else  :o (Most impressed by Doni's 250 times, and Clive's ditto in the D-Type).

Grats to Doni and Hayman for the two other podiums :clap:

Commiserations to Bill for his unfortunate exit - very easy to end up behind that wall with a small mistake, so a strange place to place a 'swamp' by the track builders  ???

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: hayman3131 on May 19, 2015, 12:01:59 PM +0100
Hi

good event! thxs Tony!
I wondered to find me on 2 in quali. I´m riding those LM55 cars since I entered here at simracing.org.uk.(a few weeks ago) Never before had any interest in this monsters, neither drove them. So thxs to that league, I enjoy those cars very much.
First laps I stayed on 2, I had to let the big maser monster by, and no chance to get it back. Then a little picknick in the grass, 2 or 3 cars passed, but i got them back. In lap 11 I had a massiv touch with that wall at pit entry. The ferri went into the air, around his axsis, but landed in the right direction. and, thxs god, no damage on suspension, only some "cold body forming". 2 cars passed me, I hope I did not hurt them to much. In lap 13 I got to pit. At start of race I loaded 104 litres, enough for 14 laps. In pit I loaded for 8 laps. After pit 4 cars in front. I could catch misnomis again and chassed Roguk for many laps, not easy to overtake him. In lap 20 I got him and noticed, that xd showed fuel 1,6. So last 2 laps fuelsavemodus. The gap to Roguk was 3,5 secs. I crossed S/F as 3rd with last fuel, I think.
I´m very impressed, what Doni did with the ferri 250. Great job, mate ! hat´s off!

Thxs all for that great and fair driving.
cya next nonday
greets hayman


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 19, 2015, 12:35:46 PM +0100
Erlings right. This track was very well suited to the raw power of the big Mazza. I spent a lot of pre race practise driving it here but in mind of upcoming rounds decided to let the strategy side of my brain rule and chose the hopeless Jag instead. Knew it would be a slow, ugly drive but hoped to make up places due to the missfortune of others. Of course come the night everyone had a stella drive and those who did have misshaps were able to continue to the flag (Bill being the exception when he found the only swamp in the whole of the Bahamas). How Clive coaxed such a performance from his Jag fills me with awe. What is Mabel putting in his Horlicks?
So uneventfull race except for some fine dicing with Kurt in his Jag. At least I've used up a Jag drive and still have loads of Mazza drives left (unlike our current champ leader Erling  ;)).

Wonder if Flash has spotted where the next in the series is being run?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: phspok on May 19, 2015, 12:53:25 PM +0100
Was quite looking forward to this one, but real life got in the way, and only had a few laps
in the Jag Aston and Masser, Masser was fast, but the bumpy track made me think I was unlikely
to finish so took the Aston. started off ok then got shoved off onto the inside grass while attempting
a pass which put me back some places, no big deal I can have fun catching people perhaps
but with limited setup and practice time the car was horrible to drive fast and got bored of losing
it so retired early.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: SpecialKS on May 19, 2015, 01:49:43 PM +0100
First I felt very disappointed about my online performance in comparison to private offline efforts on sunday  ???.
Couldn't handle online any of the cars I tested (Mazza, Jag and Aston) so I decided to take the slowest one (using
an online setup by Matt which eventually was working fine - thanks Matt for posting).
Beginning of race was disillusioning too and after I dropped to last I already thaught about an early retirement
when I had a nice clash with Tony which ended unexpectedly when he pitted in.
After that I had a new PB and slowly found my rythm with the Jag, counting another two PB's and was able to
follow Doni after his pitstop who seemed to run a bit slower than in the former stage of the race.

So eventually I had my fun as nearly always in these great cars.

Looking forward to the next races.

Result charts to be posted tonight when I'm at home.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Bob M. on May 19, 2015, 04:25:42 PM +0100
That was a endurance race for me, didn't think it would ever end..  My strategy for this race was to just keep it on the track and try to stay focused, which neither happened a few times during the event.  Had a couple of times when a wheel went off the track and pulled me into a spin but no contact with anything.  Had one other scary event coming off the final turn, and looked up and there was a red car going slow, maybe recovering from a spin, swerved to missed him and car went into the old dog tail wagging mode.  Finally ended up in the pit side fence, but no speeding ticket or damage to the suspension luckily.  After that had a few encounters with misnoimis, would catch him in the corners and he would speed off into the distance on the next straight. Passed him towards the end of the race, as he was offtrack in a cloud of dust.  Grats to the podium and big thanks to Tony for organizing the great races.....

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: SpecialKS on May 19, 2015, 07:19:24 PM +0100
Here we go:


Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_flFucURVano2MENNd2hTcllrU0tzZ09LMFEwdXZPMEdhbDlLSklRWWdWVm8?ltmpl
/index.html)


Unfortunately this chart doesn't represent all the position changes happened.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 19, 2015, 07:21:29 PM +0100
Here we go:

Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_flFucURVano2MENNd2hTcllrU0tzZ09LMFEwdXZPMEdhbDlLSklRWWdWVm8?ltmpl/index.html)

Unfortunately this chart doesn't represent all the position changes happened.

I can't see it?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Erling G-P on May 19, 2015, 07:23:58 PM +0100
Here we go:

Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_flFucURVano2MENNd2hTcllrU0tzZ09LMFEwdXZPMEdhbDlLSklRWWdWVm8?ltmpl/index.html)

Unfortunately this chart doesn't represent all the position changes happened.

I can't see it?

Me neither..  :)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: SpecialKS on May 19, 2015, 07:28:49 PM +0100
Sorry guys - still working on the release settings.

Don't work like I want  ;D

It's a problem with Google drive


FIXED  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: EvilClive on May 19, 2015, 08:19:47 PM +0100
Results look OK to me guys , other than I am not on the podium, but that might have been a bit much to expect?

Grats to Erling, Doni and Hayman for the top places.

I had done very little practice for this race, except to recce the circuit and get a basic knowledge of which way the next corner turned.

So I figured that I had nothing to lose by using up one of my D type drives.  ::)  I made a real gaff in practice and managed to load a setup for an Aston Martin DB2, which had me struggling for many laps until I realised my mistake as quali started.

It took me most of quali to get the correct setup to work and find the right gear ratios...that 4 speed Jag gearbox is an absolute sod to work with. Every gear seems to be too low or too high for every corner  :-\
By now it was too late to change cars now and anyway I wanted to use one of my drives in the D type.

The race start was a disaster and I was swamped.  At the end of the lap I saw an opportunity that was not really there and succeeded only in taking Flash off the track with me. ( big apologies for that).
From that point on I just tried to keep a steady pace and hoped to pick up places. I had half planned to go the whole race on the same tyres and try taking just a splash and dash. The only problem with this "perfect" plan was that I had no idea how far I could go on a tank full of fuel, so when I reached 14 laps I chickened out and went into the pits. The intention was to only take on fuel, but my over efficient pit crew decided to change the tyres as well!!!  so much for a plan!!

Well, I came out of the pits with fresh rubber and plenty of fuel and just nailed it. Within 4 laps I had trashed the rear tyres as I drifted the Jag through the faster corners and floored the gas out of each corner leaving black lines on the tarmac. It was fun for 4 or 5 laps until I noticed that the tyres were all well into the red zone and a little sanity returned.
It was then that I found that I could actually drive this car faster with less grip!!! With gentle throttle modulation and persuasive, rather than punishing  steering inputs the laptimes started to fall. It seemed that the more the tyres lost their grip, the easier the car was to drift through corners under power and carry more speed.
In the last few laps I was closing on oldgeezer and almost thought I might catch him before the flag. I passed Misnomis who was focused on keeping a small patch of grass very well trimmed.
To get 7th place in a race where I had not prepared and taken a car that I thought would not make the finish, was not so bad.

Still loving these cars and the challenge they present.   Thanks Tony.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Endurance - Oakes Field - May 18
Post by: Doni Yourth on May 20, 2015, 04:25:44 PM +0100
A fine time in the Bahamas!  :)

Congratulations to Erling on a fine win!  The big Maser was just wicked fast on the straights but it takes a pro to manhandle it in the corners.  Well done.

Grats to Hayman for a great finish in P3 despite a simply ENORMOUS shunt in the pit area.  P2 would have been up for grabs if weren't for that off.  Good run otherwise with pace and accuracy.

Rog ditto and close to a podium finish.  Well done.

Fla$h!  Goodness me!  What an up & down affair for you!  A brilliant start to take the lead off the grid only to fall off an fall way, way back moments later.  Was this all a plan to stage a storming comeback, headlights ablaze, to put in a sterling drive?  Sure looked like it.  Great recovery.

Clive!  ???  How you managed to set a 44s lap time in the race astounds me!  That's a terrific time.  If only you'd managed a little better luck in the race...

Poor misnoimis...  The opening laps were a great duel and it was all I could do to hope that I got to the next corner before your Maser roared by.  Sorry to learn that the car gave up on you.

Sorry to Matt for axing you into the dirt.  Wasn't exactly sure where you were and I didn't see you with a quick 'look right' but I'd already started my turn-in before you barged up the inside.  Except for you the smoking tyres, it kinda reminded me of another recent incident elsewhere.  I think it's time you threw away your Legzy playbook.