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Track: Goodwood GP Circuit Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_goodwood)

Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Jaguar D-Type (1955 version only) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Mercedes 300SL Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55), Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s)

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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (30 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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Yummie!

Here some nice read up on circuits of the past. You guys may already know about this site, but for the ones that do not:
http://www.circuitsofthepast.nl/en-US/ (http://www.circuitsofthepast.nl/en-US/)

Great site Postal.
And a great race to look forward to at Goodwood. It will have to be the D type after watching those cars racing at the Goodwood revival back in September, they were awesome beasts. Although the handling did look a little suspect for some of them lol!!

Hi ... just ran a few laps here and ( GTL froze then black screen then back to GTL)the same prob i had with the Fifties cars when raced at Rostock, was driving the Aston then and here the Austin Healey 100 any ideas why?

Well it looks unlikely to be track or car related as it's a different track/car each time. You may have something running in the background that's effecting GTL? I have some software called Gamefire that turns off all background programs. Maybe you could try that out?

http://www.smartpcutilities.com/

PS Thanks for the email  ;)  I'm sure the other regulars would appreciate the same.

Hi Tony ... have downloaded Game fire and will try it Thanks, Poss cause could it be, just looked and was running GTL in windowed mode?
   yes have sent a few emails.

Are we allowed either of the Mercedes CSL, I have a CSL LM55 as well.

EDIT:
Actually, just done a few laps in each, and the Merc LM55 is way too fast for the others.
I can do low 1:26 in jag and DBR1, 1:27.4 in Healey, and 1:24.7 in the LM55 Merc.

I've never run in windowed mode so don't know if this was the problem. Let's hope it was.

Sound like your recovering well; Happy New Year.

There is no Merc CSL so I'm guessing you mean the Merc SL. The standard one is not used but the LM55 mods are (No's 53, 54 & 55).

Yes they are the fastest car at Goodwood in my test's too....so will it be a Mercedes fest  :shifty:

EDIT: Just checked some times after praccy this pm and I'm faster than the Merc in my chosen make  :P

After reading your post I propped my eyelids open with matchsticks and downloaded and tried the cars.

Merc is indeed 2 secs a lap quicker in my hands than the others. But as this series requires us to use all the cars twice, it is a choice that you have to make.

Is this the best place to use the best car?  

BTW. when i first set up ( OK lets be honest, not so much set up but beat around with a rusty iron bar until it worked!) GTL I had numerous issues, mostly related to the car sets. As a result I seem to have several folders in the :-
C:\GT Legends\GameData\Teams  area that have some very strange mixes of cars in them.

This probably explains my inability to join the recent Rouen race as I did not have some of the cars required, even though they were apparently the default cars loaded with the original game. I am thinking of saving my Locations,  and setups folder to a remote location and re-installing the game to re-instate the standard carsets before overwriting the locations and setups with my own files. Then download the cars again as required for future races.

When I download a new car from the link on the race announcement post I just point it at C:\GT Legends and let it do it's thing.   But a) how does it know which folder to place it in... and b)... does it matter where it eventually ends up as when i start GTL there are what appears to be all of the cars that exist on my PC available anyway??

Dave creates the installer to put the car set in the correct class etc so no worries for you.

Ok, Thanks Tony. Not sure I want to do a full 40 mins race at the moment, but I am amusing myself doing a few laps at forthcoming events.
Still trying to figure the least demanding yet fun way to run the P&G series. I used to be undecided......

Just had my first outing in the Aston.  The noise that thing makes, makes my eyes water  :tt1:

Tony, we need a 'stick-with-the-same-car-all-season-as-long-as-it's-not-the-Merc' mode.  As long as I can listen to that glorious howl, I practically don't care about my results..  :D

Cheers,
Erling

I fully agree with you Erling - result doesn't matter, it's just the car respectively lots of the LM55 cars

I'll take the Aston at Goodwood  ;D

Same for me - I'm either a genius in the other cars, or I suck majorly driving the Merc.  I'm afraid I know which explanation is the more plausible...  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

I was slower in the standard Merc, which we are not using, but in the LM55 one I was nearly 2 secs faster than anything else
are you using the LM55 variant?

I am indeed, so there must be something lacking in my driving or setup abilities.

Cheers,
Erling

I'm faster in the DBR1 (best: 1:24.7) than in the 300SL LM (1:25.2)  ??? , but I stick
with the Aston although it is a bit tricky to handle  :o .

Kurt, your Merc time is identical to my best   :stupid:  ;)

I would like to take part in some races in this series if possible. I haven’t sim raced lately so will be a bit slow. I tried the Healey 100, not easy to drive!
 
I will download and try the DBR1 and D-type. Had them a couple of years ago. I remember they make a great sound. Maybe I could look in for pre-race practice if that’s OK. I won’t be able to make the race this week though.  ;D

Nice one - found an old setup from the first LM55 race ever held at UKGTL in 2012 (Aintree)
which fitted well with Goodwood.
But - as usual - too much mistakes.
During first lap I dropped to last place after I successfully avoided Matt at St. Mary's  ::).
Later I needed three attempts to catch Tony - I could see him twice when I made a mistake.
And after I got him I crashed again at St. Mary's in lap 28 and destroyed left front suspension  :sleep1: :censored:
so Tony could catch me again and I was lucky to see the finish still in fifth place just in front of Roger.

 

Hi misnoimis. Look forward to seeing you on track. Your welcome to join any of our events.

Replay and Results now posted.

 Still grinning about the start of this series.  ;D

Just love the cars from this era and the way they have to be manhandled around. Goodwood was just about the perfect track to kick all of this off and, for me at least, it did not disappoint.

I did actually manage a few laps with all of the cars at different times over the Christmas break and liked all of them, except the D type which appeared to be losing 2 seconds somewhere and felt like I had left the handbrake on??  :-\ I will need to play with that car again before I use it in anger I think.

I could have taken the Merc which was far and away the fastest in my hands around here, but with so many good tracks to come I decided to forego the easy option.
I had almost decided on the DB1 ( because it just sounds sooo good!  :drool:) when I suddenly hooked up the Healey which I had decided was the weak link in this car set.

Qually went well and 2nd place behind Erlings quick DB1 was a bonus. A great start pulled me a small gap and I was driving the wheel nuts off that poor Healey trying to break away on cold tyres. But, like I said in chat after the race Erling had just one small advantage over me.....he was faster. He was taking at least a tenth of a second out of me on all the fast sections and no matter how I attacked the corners I could not make up the difference.
The gap closed and although I held him off for a few laps it was inevitable that his superior top speed would get him past.. and it did. Then lap by lap, he eased away, and I only closed up when he made a small mistake or encountered traffic. My only hope of getting on terms was if he had an "off" but he refused to oblige!!

I think this is the first time in GTL where I have actually knocked about 20% off the engine health in a race. I was seriously abusing the rev limiter on occasions in my attempt to stay with Erling.

Good to see Bill back on the server and apologies for the confusion in chat after the race. I realised after I had quit that perhaps bill thought I was complaining about "brakes", whereas I had clumsily tried to put a smiley face on the end of one of my comments  thus.   :o)  to indicate that it was good that he had completed the race without any problems on his PC.
I did have to make a couple of demon overtakes on Bill during my chase of Erling ( blame Erling for going too quickly!) and I might have compromised Bill's line on a couple of occasions.


Great fun guys, Grats to Erling on the win and to all finishers.

I had considered either the Aston or the Merc for this race but after reading the pre-race posts I thought a more stategic

approach was required so chose the Jag which I new wouldn't win me the race but I could possibly garner good points whilst

not using up one of the best cars. However I found the Jag a real pig to setup for turning and braking. Eventually I had a

setup which felt ok but not great. Race started ok and I was in 5th (I think) by the time I approached the lead pack entering

St Mary's. Someone (Kurt possibly) was laying down loads of smoke so I braked hard on coldish tyres and went of track to

the left and collided quite hard with the barrier. Thankfully no suspension or steering damage but I lost loads of time on the

cars in front of me. Set of again and after a few passes I was back in fourth but unable to make any inroads into Matts lead.

Satisfied that I was far enough ahead of Kurt I settled down to maintain my fourth place which would suit my strategy

plans just fine (smug face). However Kurt was quick, very quick. And I was concerned that my lead on him was being

depleted lap after lap by quite large chunks. But just as he came within 5-7 secs he must of had incidents as his time would

slip back to 10-12 secs behind. This happened at least three time I think and each time I breathed a sigh of relief. By lap 25

my rear tyres were shot and this was affecting my speed allowing Kurt an even better opportunity to close on me. He was

soon on me and I was powerless to prevent him passing and disappearing up the road. I then span a couple of times as my

tyres were now no better than decoration on the wheels. On the last lap I spotted a dust cloud at Lavant and as I came closer

I saw Kurt recovering from an off. He must of been badly damaged as I was able to pass without any trouble. Was able to

make it to the finish and bag the 4th place. Kurt must have been cursing his bad luck.

Great speed in the Healey Clive and good to have Huggy with us again. Sorry for Postal losing sound and not able to make

the race. Next ones at Pau which is a new track to me so will have to evaluate which is the best strategic choice there.

A great start to this promising series indeed  :)

Improved my pb in qual by 1/1000 of a sec, so it seems I've hit my terminal velocity in this car on this track  ;D

Surprised, but delighted of course to be on pole, but very wary of Clive in 2nd, not far off my pace, and in a Healey no less.  Would be just typical of him to upstage us all, by winning the race in the presumably slowest car!  :o

As expected, I got jumped by Clive at the start (curious; do you use a clutch pedal ?).  No worries though, as there were plenty of laps to find a way back past him.  However, he was proving bloody quick through the corners, so I had to work hard, if I was to prevent him getting away.  Thought I had him at St. Marys on L2, when he went wide into the right hander, but he recovered quicker than I could exploit it.  After the way I battered him on the same track in our Christmas Special, I was determined to not as much as scratch his paint this time, so I bit my time and waited for the right opportunity. Had a look down his sides a few times, but were not in a sufficiently good position to attempt a pass - in a way, it wasn't too bad a situation; I could put him under pressure, while relaxing (relatively speaking!  ;)).  I knew that as soon as I got past, the pressure would be on me instead.  Had my first serious attempt down Lavant on L4, but put 2 wheels on the grass and lost momentum. Tried next lap in the same place, this time succeeding.  Sure enough, pressure was now on me, and I couldn't afford any mistakes - no major ones at least.

Very slowly worked up a gap of about 5 secs, and could ease off a little - just enough to be reasonably sure of not making big mistakes.  Small ones or too much cruising would shrink the gap right away, so Clive was obviously still going hard back there!  When he slipped from view, the race should have turned lonely, but I had the pit board reminding me of his not too distant presence every lap, and a steady stream of traffic also kept me company - thanks for helping me past guys!

Bill, sorry about the rather rude bump.  In the replay, it seems obvious that you kept the door open for me, but I hesitated in the situation, and when I decided not to go for the inside, it was too late to brake.

Towards the end, I almost lost it though. On the penultimate lap, I entered the chicane 'too hot' and knew I wouldn't make it. Know from bitter experience that hitting the wall on the right, can take out your engine, but thankfully managed to brake in time.  Lost some 6-7 secs, but still enough gap to hold on to first.

Grats to Clive, Matt and all finishers - not least Bill; glad to see you complete a race this time.

Much impressed with Clive's pace in the Healey.  It's obvious he'll be an even bigger pain than last season  ;D - unless he makes some mistakes in upcoming races, I predict he'll walk away with it all this year (Tony, we need more pit stops..  ;D)

Cheers,
Erling

Nice fun race, though it became lonely after a couple of laps. I took an easy to drive setup, knew I could do low 25's race pace
without much effort, so hoped that would be enough. I was fastest iin the Merc, but couldn't get close to the pace people
were getting in the Aston, and Clives times in the Healey were amazing. I was only a few tenths slower in the Jag than the Aston
but the Jag had a more wayward back end, so stuck with the easy drive Merc. Only event of the race for me was lapping
people, I confused Bill once and ended up in a fence  :o was trying to stay right out of T1 but the car was understeering
so dived left with too short notice, sorry for that Bill.

  "(Tony, we need more pit stops..  Grin)"

Noooooooooooooo no pits stops pleeeeze!

I have already booked on a correspondence course for a degree in "Replenishment Operations During Competitive Activities in a Virtual Environment" in an attempt to get these ruddy thing right in my head!!!

Well I managed to use the potentially fastest car to no real effect  :D, but at least I finished and only went off once. Kept Bill company for a while although I managed to get a lap ahead as there were a lot of solo laps otherwise! Seemed a very long race to me, not helped by not properly sussing out how to get a "heads up" display that shows the information about laps remaining and the car damage etc while maintaining a cockpit view; after the race I spent a while trying to sort that, but the best I can come up with is going in and out of heads up with a car nose view. Anyone know if this can be rectified? I don't like driving with other than cockpit really, but your knowledge of what's going on in the race is strictly limited (as I suppose it would be in the period with nothing other than pit boards to go by).  Anyhoo, will have a bash at next week's TransAm race and come back for a poke about at Pau in round 2 of this series, all being well.

Whilst in cockpit view, the number 2 key should toggle the three viewing options e.g. no dials/info, some dials/info, all dials/info. See if this works for you and let us know how you get on.

I don't believe there is a way to graphicaly show car damage but for fuel use/tyre wear you MUST get XD. http://www.vitumo.de/

You don't fancy the Elans v TVRs then?

Thanks Tony;  however, when the HUD toggle key is set to 2, I can get nothing from it at all - in fact, in the stock GTL control settings, only the number 5 on the main keyboard (as opposed to the Num pad) in the numbered series of commands does anything at all, switching on/off and repositioning the gear indicator display. If I allocate HUD to another key, say H, I can get it to work as in my other post. Weird. Have looked in the PLR doc for enlightenment, but no luck so far.
       No, the Elan v TVR doesn't really appeal, and to be honest these race distances are at the limit of my endurance threshold, not helped by working on the computer most of the day some weeks, so a couple a month plus what I'm doing in other leagues is enough for my poor old eyeballs!

Huggy, are you using the XD plugin / addon for GTL ? (http://www.vitumo.de/)

It should show you the info you're requesting.  I'm at work, but can take a screenshot sometime tonight when I get home, to show you what my setup looks like.

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks guys- that XD plug-in tells me all I need to know, and then some  ;D

Sorry but I should have said that the "2" key is the one not on the numpad.

You're welcome - sounds like I don't need to take screenshots :-)

If you haven't found out already, you can adapt things to your preferences via the XD.ini file.  For example, I have hidden the standings table, to unclutter my display, and have enlarged the HUD to 150%, as it otherwise gets too small, with the screen resolution I'm using.

Cheers,
Erling

You can also move the various graphics around the screen and make them semi-transparent.

Thanks folks for kind comments on my attendance and actually finishing.  My concentration and stamina are slowly improving although I was knacker afterwards and zonked out as soon as head hit the pillow. Was lucky PC lock up occurred with just time for me to rejoin for the race and stayed working throughout the race.

Had a few laps in close company with first Roger and then Huggy.  Set new PBs racing with both of them - competition certainly gives reduced lap times.

Clive and Erling when I'm being lapped if I'm not racing someone I try and leave the racing line for the over-taker, it's just sometimes you are all so quick I get caught in a bad place and often compromise my line but try and maintain it to avoid confusion.  Unfortunately in the later part of the race my brakes were down to the orange and starting to snatch causing problems slowing down in a straight line and maintaining my line (in chat I was trying to ask Clive, as the only other 100 S  jockey, if he'd experienced similar problems).

Fitted and setup my new BT Hub 5 as I've had Wi-Fi problems (Cured) and hope it will be more stable and obviated my lockup problems

I'm no good at setups so I'd be gratefully for any for the forthcoming races.

Bill. I sat in your car in the replay for a while and it felt like the car was very loose, and rolled a lot

ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/Laguna.zip (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/Laguna.zip)

is a zip of my quick default setups with a tweak for Laguna if you want to give them a try.

Matt, do you have cockpit view of other cars than your own in replays, or could you tell the above without it ? (I only have cockpit view of my own car in replays)

Cheers,
Erling

just curious but cannot download your file, Matt. "server not found" ???

Anyway - thxs for uoloading.

I had no problems with the lapping Bill, I could see that you were having "issues" and were trying to leave plenty of room. As far as I am concerned if I am fortunate enough to be lapping someone in a race, then catching them in the wrong place at the wrong time, is what makes it more real. Sometimes one is lucky and it all happens on the straights and sometimes you find a car on the apex that you wanted..just the luck of the dice Bill and part of the game.
Well I could quote that alien mantra that "brakes are for wimps", but that might be perceived as ungentlemanly  ::).

As for a setup, I can send you my Healey setup for Goodwood.  I cannot comment on how much body roll Bill had but I had to balance the grip vs power out of the corners. It seemed that unless I made the back wheels break free slightly, the rear end wanted to dig in and try to flip the car up on 2 wheels. Anyway what is the best way to send/share a setup in GTL?

For what it is worth I had no issues at all with brake wear or tyres wear, both finished still showing loads of green. But, as I mentioned I did work that engine ruddy hard and knocked a good 20% off its life expectancy trying to chase Erling. ;D

Sorry, I forgot to put the link as ftp, and it adds http:// automatically. fixed now.
I only have a true cockpit view of one car, but i get bonnet views of all cars, which
is almost the same.
You can upload setups from within the game, but I'm not sure it still works.

Thanks Matt will download your setups later and give them a go.

Agree where you meet a car to overtake is the luck of the draw, that and grabbing brakes were reasons why I received a few bumps and didn't always make it easy to be overtaken.  Could just be I'm just a carp driver who can't set a race car!  :devil: :rockon:

A copy of your setup for the AH 100 S would be appreciated.  ;D

I will look at GTL this evening and see if I can work out how to upload the setup. If not, I guess I will have to attache the file to an e-mail and send it to you Bill.

Agree wholeheartedly with this - sometimes you just happen to catch people in an unfortunate part of the track. Let's also not forget that someone being lapped, might themselves be in a hard battle with someone else, so you can't necessarily expect people to compromise their own race too much, just to let you past a little faster.


Exactly what are you changing to accomplish this ?  As a complete setup dufus, I would really like to learn about this. However, I understand completely if you might not want to share your secrets with a potential competitor, so no hard feelings if you'd "rather not tell.."  ;)    You could of course also send me in a completely wrong direction, and sit back to laugh at the results on track..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks Matt, now have them.  Only had time to try a couple of cars. will sort out my race car in the next couple of days.  The Ford was a vast improvement on my attempt at a setup,  ::) in fact both cars I tried were nice to drive.  ;D  :rockon:

I like easy to drive setups for the big V8s.
Is it just me? but how can you see the track in the Ford Bill? I couldn't see any apexes, and was always running up the
inside onto the dirt mid corner.

The Falcon is the only car I can drive with any consistency, with the seat fully up it is only the Carousel (I think) where the apex is difficult as it drops away to the left and being a  right hand drive car there is no side window vision.  (I drive from inside the car with 24 inch wide screen monitor.)

All the other cars have no bottom end torque and I keep stalling the engine in the kitty litter, whereas the Falcon will drive through it in 2nd gear most times.

I think ( that means I might have, but I'm not sure!!) I have managed to upload a setup file to the online suppository repository.

If you guys can get to the online files look for the setup file " Healey 1000" posted by evilclive 2.

If it IS actually there and you guys can d/load it post back here and I can share other setups with you...maybe.


 pssst How do I password protect it so Erling can't get them????? :shifty:

I found your setup EC

No need; I tried your Escort setup remember - and found it damn near undriveable...  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks for setup Clive, I now have it and have found it very nice and a much better drive than my setup.  :thumbup1:  My first flying lap was faster than my race PB and within a nat's of Huggys fastest race lap.  ;D

I look forward to using it in my next AH 100S outing.  :rockon: