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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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After a chat with my PC man he has collected my PC and will give a couple days of hard diagnostic testing to see if he can find any reason it keeps freezing.

Hopefully, I'll have it back or maybe not if he finds problem and has to await new parts.  ::)

Been there, good luck.

Huh!!! a road circuit. I don’t like them but it can’t be worse for me than the last race on a track I loved. Thanks to not installing one of the cars I suffered a self-inflicted debacle. I usually finish a race but there was so much weird stuff going on I could not get my head round it. So I pitted and retired. I even thought I saw a Red Flag (race stopped) on one occasion.

A choice of only four makes this time. I can’t get that wrong can I?  ::)

I can’t get on with the Healey, don’t like the Merc. The D-Type is difficult. I would like to save the Aston for a faster track… It’s all decisions.  ???

Let’s hope the guys who had joining and DQ problems have better luck this time. Fields of fifteen plus drivers are looking possible now.  :clap:

Easy choice for me. The David Brown Tractor is undrivable here whatever I do to the setup.
the Jag is not as bad but unstable under power, again with 10 or 100 diff settings and
softest rear etc. The Healey is nice here also the Merc is an easy drive.
Down to a low 1:29 so far.

Tried a couple of laps last night in the Healey and the Jag. That 1:29 looks like a respectable time , although nurse called me for my bedtime medication before I could try the Merc or the Aston.!!!  ::)

I still cannot get that Jag to work. Surely in its day it was a contender?? but in this 55 guise it feels totally outclassed by all the other options

Possibly, but not everyone gets on with these LM55 mods.

Where is that short cut you found? After half an hour in each car my times are:  Aston 1:33’s, Jag 1:34’s, Merc 1:36’s and Healey 1:38’s. Mark me down for last place.  :wheelchair:

As I don’t think I will improve enough to be remotely competitive in this race in any car. I may cut my losses and take the Healey for this race. I need to find a good set up though. I think I will have to knock about five seconds off my lap time to avoid being a mobile road block when I am lapped. There are tracks I like better to come I’m sure so the Aston will get a run out later.  :)

Just did a long (30min) session with the D type, because it was irritating me that it did not appear to be  competitive!! I guess I just like a challenge :helpsmilie: :helpsmilie: :helpsmilie:

Finally cobbled together a setup that gets me below 1:30 and is stable enough to drive in anger.  I still have to try the option tyres just in case they offer any advantage and I think there is potential for more compliance by tweaking some settings in the setup.

BTW I am NOT using the advanced setup options as I have enough trouble understanding the basic setup parameters!!!  That does not mean that I have issues with anyone who wants to tax their brain and use the Advanced stuff.  ;)

1:29  :o

In my tests I have three cars all within 0.3 of each other. But my best time is only 1:32!

Whether I used 'Advanced Setup' (only change was in the left front wheel, tested only in 15min) + all the other things you can change in the old setup...Jag D is impossible.  ;D
Gearbox is shit...at all, no matter what I changed, it's difficult to get around in slow corners. Best time was 1:28.5  >:(
At the same time the track is very tricky & I would be lucky if I don't already on lap 1...CRASH  :laugh:

PC home and appears to be working OK with GTL.  Appears it was a video driver problem the driver, somehow became corrupted.  New driver installed works OK.  Had couple of extra cooling fans fitted at existing case cooling grills to improve graphics card cooling.

Great news Bill.  Hope to see you on track Monday - for the entire race!  :)

Cheers,
Erling

I hope that you have finally cured the problems Bill, it has been a frustrating story with quite a few "false dawns".

Looking forward to seeing you back on the tarmac ( stay off the green bits, the cars don't work so well on that stuff!  ;) )

Plenty of missed apex/messed up braking but here's a 1:28.4 with setup, though the setup is pretty simple.
Some kerbing, but all legal to me.

ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/Pau 1967 HotMatt284.Vcr (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/Pau 1967 HotMatt284.Vcr)
ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/mercLM55-matt1.svm (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/mercLM55-matt1.svm)

As long as two wheels remain on the racing tarmac, there won't be any problems. We don't mind which two wheels  ;)

At 1:28 pace I would have the steering wheel and the spare wheel in contact with the tarmac......does that count?  ::)

surely your standard driving characteristics?

Thanks Erling and Clive, here's hoping too.  ;D :rockon:

I have to confess that my normal "gung ho" driving style works reasonably well at most tracks, but there are quite a few areas around Pau where it might not be wise to hang the rear end out  ::).
In fact I am amazed at Phspok's replay where he somehow bounces over the kerbs and it still looks smooth!! I tried a similar approach and found myself only just regaining control before the next corner, and using about 50% of the rubber on my tyres in the process?? He must have the "comfort" setting engaged on the Merc dashboard methinks  :yes: :yes:

All cars are now sub 1:30 for me, but some are easier to drive at that pace than others. So the dilemma now is, do I take a faster but more unstable car, or a slightly slower but more stable one. Then there is the consideration of those tracks that we visit later   :-\... Do I risk a "good " car here and hope to score good points, or do I  use one of the less desirable chassis options and just pick up a few points with it if I can.  :wacko:

Ooooh! I feel a headache coming on.....going to take the dog for a walk instead!!

If you raise the front and rear ride height the kerb effect maybe reduced?

I have completed another practice session concentrating on the Healey. After some set up tweaks I have managed 1:32.2.

I think the fastest car is the awesome but unforgiving Aston. Then the independent minded tail happy Jag, The Merc is the easiest to drive but the Healey is entertaining and more satisfying.

I will probably miss a few races due to holidays and away days so I will be able to mostly drive the Aston and Jag.

I will drive the Healey for this race and the Merc in a later race.

I think I will be about five seconds a lap off the pace.  5 X 26 = being lapped well before the finish of the race.

Did some more on line laps with Misnoimis.
I cannot drive the Aston or Jag here, it's just masochism  :hammer:
I can just get a 29.5 with the Healey, and managed a lucky 27.8 with the Merc
Can't decide whether to take the Merc, or save him for something else, as the Healey
will likely be pants elsewhere.

ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/AH100S-matt1.svm (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/AH100S-matt1.svm)
ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/Pau 1967MattAH295.Vcr (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/Pau 1967MattAH295.Vcr)

In case anyone is curious.

we're all a bit curious  :wacko:

“Curiouser and curiouser!”  :blink:

Tried #32 and #700 Healey 100'S and got the message: car not on server ???

Any clues?

So I begin testing using the Mercedes.


Pheewww - far off the pace - feeling like a icehockey-player  ;D

I usually don't get much time for practice for GTL ( and PnG) events, but for some reason, and I cannot work out what is different, I have found a couple of 20 minute sessions this weekend.

As I reported earlier, I was determined to make that D type respectable and probably did far too many laps finding ways in which it did NOT work.  I have done a few laps in the Healey and the Merc. Not bothering with the Aston Martin here, as I think it will be more valuable at other circuits.

For what it is worth..
I think the Healey is the easiest to drive and comfortably will do 1:28's
The Jag is hard work and needs more concentration, but when I get it all together and hooked up, it is faster  ;) Although I'm not sure that I can keep that level of focus for 26 laps!!!
I tried the Merc and only did a few laps, once again I think there will be better tracks for this car, but still got 1:28's after only about 10 laps and a few setup tweaks.

Found Bill on the practice server earlier today and his PC looked to be OK. Here's hoping it will behave for tomorrow's race.  :thumbup1:

Both cars found by me online  :-\

Well it looks like my racing career is on hold after only one race.  My wife had a fall Friday and injured her knee badly.  Fractured a bone just below the joint, will be imoblized and no weight put on it for some time.  Haven't got the therapy schedule yet but I'm sure that it will take up a lot of time daily according to sources and then after the fracture is healed she may need a replacement unit.
Will keep my eye on the site and watch the replays if possible so put on a good show!!!!

Thanks for the fun
Bob M.///oldgeezer

So sorry to hear that Bob. Wishing your wife a speedy recovery and hope your able to join us again soon.

ooooooo!!!! :o  that sounds painful Bob.

Looks like you will be occupied for a while there taking good care of your lady. Give her our best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Best wishes for a full recovery to your good lady, Bob. Take your time and look after her ... we'll still be here when you are ready to return.

So sorry to hear that Bob :(

Can only echo Tony, Clive and Bill in wishing your wife a complete and hopefully fast recovery. 

Kind regards,
Erling

Add my very best wishes for your lady Bob, I hope she makes a full recovery.

Best wishes for a fast and complete recovery to your wife from me too, Bob.

Solved my problem - had the Austin 100 installed in the LM55 folder  ::)

See you soon.

I have the same problem as last week. This time with Matts car. I have installed all cars?

Decided to switch to a car I don't really like on a track I definitely don't like  :D
although I was about 4 seconds faster in the Healey.
Destroyed my right front suspension and tried to go on for a few laps after
a pit stop, but it was senseless.
But fun and a nice experience as long as it lasted.
CU next week,

Well, my first time with fifties and was so fun.
This afternoon I practiced a bit with the mercedes and Healy and I quickly decided on the Healy. I also don't knew the track and was difficult the first few laps. Luckily Pelle was always on my horizon and I tried to copy their way of cornering ..... but .... this happened ... and final race for me. A shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49phu-2wAgo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49phu-2wAgo)

Grats podium and all survivors!

Cheers!

Results and replay now posted

Somehow it happened again. I joined half an hour before qualifying and had no problems. I did a couple of practice laps on full race fuel, the best in the mid 1:32s. Then when Matt joined the problems I had last week kicked in again. He was driving a Mini. I knew from last weeks problems the reason was that I did not have his car installed.  :hang:

I left the game, went on the SimRacing.org site and downloaded and reinstalled all the cars.

I rejoined with about ten minutes of qualifying left and having loaded my set up. However the car felt totally alien (not the driver unfortunately). When I looked at the settings I saw they had somehow been corrupted and were very different from my original set up.  :eek: So for the second week running I had to drive with a strange feeling set up.

I managed to take my frustrations out on a wall.  :2guns: This caused the car to pull sharply to the right. I drove for some laps like this before hitting another wall. The car was just about undrivable so I pitted for repairs and a suspension change.

The pit crew did a great job but as I left the pits I hit the wrong button on my G27 and instead of turning my pit speed limiter off I change my driving view. I tried to correct it but ended up finishing the race using a front camera view. A very strange experience.

Apart from that my race was perfect with no problems.
 
Grats to all and especially podiums. Sorry if I messed anyone’s qualifying lap up with my car handling problems. I should be OK from next week as I have raced without problems the cars used in the upcoming Champion races. :whistling:

Wow Misnoimis, your having troubles arn't you. Hopefully they will soon be a thing of the past.

That was quite an eventful race  :o

Settled for the Healey in offline practice, as it was the fastest car for me here.  Aston was impossible, Jag even more impossible - can't get rid of its wallowing from left to right, and on a tight circuit like this, where precision is everything in some places, that trait was pure poison.  With Matt's kindly provided Merc setup, I could do 1:29 laps in that car, but was faster in the Healey so had to be it.

Matched my offline pb in qual, but only got me as far as 4th on the grid.  T1 kerfuffle saw me emerge in 5th.  Sorry about the tap Clive; I was shoved into you by another car.  Thus didn't wait, as I didn't feel it was my fault..  :whistling:

Chased after Roger, who had gotten past me, with Clive inching closer from behind.  Missed my braking point and had to aim for the pavement, to avoid hitting Roger. That let Clive past unfortunately. When he then passed Roger at the beginning of the next lap, with a kamikaze outbrake, I tossed out the hook, caught his tailfin and let him drag me past Roger too  ;)  Built a small gap to Roger over the following laps, while trying hard to keep Clive within reach.  Was of course hoping the unruly Jag would give him enough trouble, for me to pass him at some point.  Regrettably it seems some higher power, with a vicious streak and a little too eager to please, was listening...  Suddenly I saw Clive's car in a spectacular somersault at the fast chicane (or should we call it 'The Gauntlet'..  :scared:)  He went over the edge of the world and into the void.  My sympathies Clive - I certainly wanted to steal your position, but not like that..  :(

Then at the beginning of the next lap, I entered the kink right after the start/finish a little too fast. That meant the only possible line for me was up on the pavement on the left, but there was Bill T' s stationary Jag, just recovering after a shunt  :eek:  He couldn't get out of the way, and I couldn't brake or change my line, so hit him hard.  Sorry about that Bill; saw your car too late to do anything  :oops:

By the time I got rolling again, Roger was right up close and personal again.  Aside from the sorry looks it gave my car, I think the collision broke something in the suspension, as the car never felt good after it.  Thus could only do 1:30 laps.  It was enough to get me away from Roger again, but didn't bring me any closer to Matt up front, so no chance of challenging for 2nd.

Thus ended in a somewhat undeserved 3rd, thanks to Clive and Lobo's untimely exits (in similar fashion).  Thanks to those I lapped who helped me past - if I didn't flash a 'thank you', it was because both my headlights were broken (and I can never remember which key holds what predefined message..)

Grats to Pelle and Matt - and Bill T on finally getting to complete a race again without PC troubles - let's hope it's a sign things to come, and not just a lucky break!  :yes: :yes:

Misnoimis:  If you loose your cockpit view, you should be able to bring it back with repeated taps on the 'Insert' key. (I don't think I've changed the default key for this, so should be 'Insert'.  If that doesn't work, try some others, as it's probably there somewhere)

Cheers,
Erling

1967 Pau Report (http://www.gt-legends.eu/UKGTL/Report/Fifties/1967Pau/index.html) :sweatdrop:

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/wiltshire_tony/GTL1950s2012-09-2913-59-03-96.png)

Are those the default ones Tony ?

It then appears I have changed it after all..  :D

Cheers,
Erling

Logged on for 2 and 1/4 hours without any problems,  :jumpjoy: as Erling said lets hope it's a sign of things to come. Have downloaded the NVidia drivers that my PC man installed to keep for posterity in case of more corrupted drivers. ;D  It wasn't your fault Erling about our bump but mine for overcooking it and being stopped on racing line.  Apologies to Matt and anyone else who had a half crown/six pence moments with me stationary on the track.

As far as the night was concerned pleased to have set  new PBs in both qualifying and the race and finishing the race first for Jonks.  :rockon:

I believe so (just the view related ones). But I can confirm tonight.

Well I was quite proud of my 2nd place until I watched the replay, and discovered that I had caused the traffic jam
at T1. I was so busy making sure I gave Clive room that I bounced up and off the kerb into the side of Lobo  :-[
After that  I just kept trying to keep a gap back to Roger, then Erling, and Clive at one point.
I managed to bounce off Bill stuck upside down after the start straight, but apart from the car not wanting to
turn right so much, it was still drivable so omwards to the finish. Apologies to anyone who suffered at the start. :o

I can now confirm that the "Flat Earth Society" are correct!!! The earth is a flat disc!!!
Last night I actually fell off the edge of the world ( which I have discovered runs through the suburbs of Pau) and have only just returned from Neptune, or was it Uranus  ::)

I suffered the same fate as SenorLobo at the chicane during last night's race. Just clipped the armco, something I had done dozens of times in practice and everything started spinning and tumbling...and kept on tumbling and spinning..and on...and on.  :wacko: :wacko:

I was hoping to steal some points with the D type as I had almost tamed the beast offline and managed a very low 1:27 as a PB . It indicated that a 1:26 was possible, but I never quite made it happen and I doubt that I could have matched Pelle and Lobo's times, so I was content with 3rd on the grid.
The Jag was always going to be a handful off the line because of the very high gearing I was using, but I just about had 3rd slot covered as we approached T1. By the time I exited T1 I was about 8th or 9th??!! something big and black and menacing had swept through the pack and I ended up parked on the grass.

The next few laps were fun as I threaded my way past other cars as I tried to get back in touch with the leaders. The power of the D type came in handy ( plus a banzai braking move at one point) until I could see Matt and 3rd spot ahead.  I tried to settle into a nice steady pace and reel Matt in slowly, whilst watching Erling a few seconds back in my mirrors. I knew that I could go faster, but with a long way still to go I eased back a little to save the rubber, and that was probably my undoing as the car was definitely more stable under power. I allowed the car to slide a little too much as I approached the chicane and............ :o :-\

Grats to Pelle and the podium, and definitely to all those who finished. Cheers for Bill who finally seems to have killed the gremlins in his computer.

I chose the Healey for this event since it seemed to be the only car in which I might get a full lap  ::) P6 in qually ended up far better than I could have hoped so I was ready for some good racing when the lights turned green. At T1 I saw an opportunity to dive past Erling but I was too far back and clipped the back of his car ... sorry for that one, Sir. I paid for the mistake, however, by losing about 3 places. Huggy was up ahead, I managed to close the gap and we had a few great laps while I tried to find a way past. Eventually a gap was presented and I didn't need asking twice  ;D. The next few laps were a bit lonely but then I noticed that I was closing up to Rog at a reasonable rate. The last quarter of the race consisted of a brilliant duel with Rog and I only got past when he made an error on the penultimate lap, giving me P4. Congrats to Pelle, Matt and Erling on the podium and well done to Bill for getting to the flag with no PC glitches  :)

Thank you Tony and Erling G-P.

Most of my problems were self inflicted. In the previous race it seems that leaving and re-joining numerous times caused things like sounds not to load properly. I don’t know why my XD driver time’s and position info dropped out.

It is possible to get into the race by timing your mouse clicks exactly with the flashing screen and your cursor over your selected option but very slow work and not worth it. Better to install all the cars I think. :yes:

I was joking of course when I said I took my frustrations out on a wall. Another term for losing control of the car. :oops:

I am now pretty convinced the set up problem must have been me loading the wrong set up after reinstalling the cars and rushing to get into the race… another senior moment I guess. :wheelchair:

I have just tried your cockpit view suggestion. It didn’t work for me. :no:

It seems that if I press the key I have assigned for Drivers View on my G27 stick shift I can go from In Car View to Hood View to  Hood Camera View (with instruments), but no further.  I can get the Hood View but no instruments by pressing the Home key on my keyboard.  If I press the – key in the Num keys when in Hood View and change to another car, then the Enter key in the Num keys to return to my car view I get the Hood View plus instruments for my car. Not easy to do this and stay on the track I find. Probably better to assign the Driver View back to the keyboard so I don’t make the same mistake again. Confused? So am I. ::)

After testing I can confirm that the LF Shift key will switch EXTERNAL views but WILL NOT put you back into the drivers seat (cockpit view). The Insert key will however. Why? No idea.

If you did join by catching the flashing screen just right I think it would cause you superior grief in the race.

Sorry i could not join the fun lads. Have been busy last week so spent Monday night figuring out if the stuttering problems from last time out where still there.

Had installed new graphic drivers and even though it looked OK offline i experienced stuttering the first 4 laps or so. And i wanted it sorted before joining you guys in an online race. It appears now the installation of the new version of Avast 2015 is hogging my system resources even though it is set to "silent/game mode" and was the culprit. So it looks like i will be there again for next weeks race.

Good to see such a turnout! Looks like Tony is doing something right. ;)

Fluke

Hi guys,

If anyone has freee tonight and want to run in GTL ....  ;)

http://www.gamers-crib.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13860

On joining got the endless loop, forgot to add all the cars in GTL car tools, quick exit to fix and rejoin. Was going in the Healey but my lap times were very poor, lucky noticed Matt had posted a setup for the Merc so went with that (Thanks Matt). Got a good start but was soon chased down and passed by Evil and Earling, with other drivers misfortunes and a nice big gap to Bill behind me i thought 4th place was a cert, wrong Bill slowly closed the gap on me and took 4th place. Thanks to cars behind that let me pass and thanks to any drivers i held up for your patience. Great race and enjoy driving these monsters but not looking forward to driving the Jag. Nice to see you sorted and on track Bill 2.