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Track: Grenzlandring '52 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_grenzland)

Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Jaguar D-Type (1955 version only) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55), Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s)

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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (20 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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Password: see above (#post_event_password)

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Special Notes: None

A new track to me. Minimal brake wear here by the looks of it - although any deviation from the concrete is certain to be terminal. The garage set up needs to be spot-on I reckon. Looking forward to this one already.

I was really looking forward to this, but I am going to be down in Southampton that week now   :(

Going Cruisin'?  :-*

hi

I did some offline laps there. jep, no brakepoints needed  :laugh:
according to sound in headphones it reminds me to a flight simulator sim. same engine revs and same wind-noise all the time.
welcome on flight LJ 344 from Vancouver to Berlin.  :angel-wings:

looking forward to that flight

greets hayman

Have come across some anomalies :o whilst checking out all 4 cars on this track and was wondering what other drivers views are on them:

1. DBR1 -I can run a flying lap at a steady (indicated) 150mph and get 2:11.
 With the D-Type - again a flying lap at indicated speeds of up to 172mph but never below 150mph, yet I get the same lap times of 2:11.

2. Healey 100 - Again, a steady flying lap with an indicated steady speed of 150mph, crossing the line at 2:20.
   With the Merc 300sl, the flying lap shows a steady speed of 225kph/138mph, but also giving me a 2:20 lap time.

Perhaps the DBR speedo is under registering for it to be giving similar times to the D-Type, the latter which is nearer to the official top speed of 179mph. As I presumably have a bog standard GTL download, I assume this scenario is the same for everyone?

With the Healey/Merc scenario, I am not sure how a steady 150mph lap and a steady 138mph lap can give me the same lap times ???.

Different garage setups and amount of fuel would be irrelevant. If your speed and distance covered are constant, then your lap time will remain the same, (speed, distance, time etc etc) :smartass:........., or if your lap times are the same over the same track, then you would expect your constant speed to be the same too.

Anyway, points to ponder on, but would be interested to hear anyone elses thoughts :laugh:

Am very tempted to run the Healey here as it gives a beautifully smooth ride, very satisfying, but will probably go for the DBR which seems more settled than the Jag and is, for me, a good 10 seconds quicker than the Healey.

Just read your comment Hayman. Yes, brake wear will be the least of our worries. Tyre pressures will be especially important on this one. Too high or low and they will certainly go off before the end of the race.

The problem is probably indicated by the the term indicated. I wouldn't worry about speedo readings, just lap times. ;)

Merc and Austin don't do tyre wear like the Jag and Aston do. But my choice here will be determined by the cars choices I want to use further in the season  :shifty:

Not cruisin nope. I am teaching at a secret location down there.

Hi

untill now only drove DBR, best was 2:08.418
I did only about 10 laps, so no idea about tire wear.........................................

greets hayman

Hi

I wanted to do test on server. mercedes sl is in car list, but I get the message "car not present on server"
Austin 100 is not on servers car list. jag 55 works, DBR too.

greets hayman

I know why the Austin isn't showing and I will fix this in about 2hrs time. The Merc should be. Your probably using the wrong Merc.

I was thinking on the same lines too, Tony. The lap time is more important than the indicated speed.

Again, thanks for the tyre info :thumbup1:. I guess this is XD talking - I must have another try at downloading it.

I ought to be planning ahead with my choice of rides too, to get the best out of the season, but this being my first year with SRou, I've only really looked at them as they come up.  

Ah hah!  I've also been practicing offline with the 300 SL as it didn't mention LM55 in the race particulars :laugh:. Will test it out later and compare with the others.

My bad. I assumed everyone would know it would be the LM55 Merc.

jep, this one is working for me         :laugh:

I ought to have known it was the LM version as I drove it at Rouen in the last but one race :-[.

I am questioning my sanity at the moment :'(.

 :lol:

Austin Healey now running on practise server. Sorry bout that  :-[

Sorry,no race.Video card dead  :(

damn ! maybe you are too fast for video card  ;D

greets hayman

Is the server down ? (Can't see it)

Can see our backup-server, but can't connect with either of our regular passwords.

Cheers,
Erling

There's a GTR race each sunday night - so server is down for GTL  :)

BTW: http://deepjams.net/ (http://deepjams.net/)  ;D

Backup server uses the practice password mostly, otherwise the normal race password.
It is not shut down for other races as it only ever runs one event at a time.

Thanks guys.

Server is back now and I have connected successfully.

Cheers,
Erling

Does any else spot the irony here?  ;)

Is it a case of "Video Killed The Racing Car Star"? ...... Trevor Horn's Buggles etc etc...

or perhaps because if the card is kaput, then it would be impossible to post the comment?

I did, but found it too cruel to point out  ;) (And yes, I've been using ATI myself for years..)

Cheers,
Erling

(me too).

Hope you get it sorted soon ATI.

I'm on the right wavelength now :surrender:

Already subs time has arrived again. Can we tempt you to part with some dosh?  :helpsmilie:

Do the servers here have a way to access online practice times? Just wondering

Bob M.

Ati Hungarian nickname =Attila  :) Posts,my son's computer,no Gtl installation  ;) Possible evening new card. Sorry,damn google translator  :)

hi

uff, hard pressure for me. pain in the back. and with this many close laps with Jose. good slipstream-action. I think I would not have stand the whole race with that Jose-pressure  ::)
but it was excelent fun, close, very close and fair, very fair.

greets hayman

NUTS!  Got distracted, lost track of exactly where I was on the circuit and ran wide.  WAMO!  That hurt.

Damn,damn damn, :cursing: I was having  a great race with senyorlobo  when my game crashed out of GTL to the main desktop screen with GTL showing on my task bar. I could hear the engine and the sound of crashing but could see nothing. Very very frustrating. :censored: I think I had my best ever set up for the Merc and was probably having my best race of the series.

Replay and results now posted.

Same here Misnoimis. Running in 7th I felt confident with the gearing, fuel etc etc, then had to swerve to avoid a recently deceased car on one of the bends. Overcompensated and eventually caught one of those oil barrels and game over. Very very frustrating :'(

I have just watched the replay. I was really having fun and the possibility of a podium as well. It looked as if I had gone wide but it was not then case. Suddenly I was looking at my desktop screen. I guess it was lucky that no one else was taken out. I eventually tried clicking on GTL in the taskbar. I guess I was back in the game But hit escape to be on the safe side and left. No idea what caused it? Is there any way I can find out? It had to happen in my best race to date. I will just have to try harder next time.

BTW, grats to podiums. Commiserations to all who had bad luck.

Christmas Special update here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12885.msg235916#msg235916)

Bad luck, fortunately I had my black screen with car sounds like you on a faster Qualifying lap.

In the race I had a few laps in close company with oldgezzer (???) before he started to pull away I then outbraked myself in a desperate attempt to catchup. Car somersault and (unknown to me) was facing the wrong way by the time I got myself back up to speed I was 30 odd seconds behind.  ::)
After that it was a brisk drive for fun trying to lap faster and still finish. I of course benefited from everybodies misfortune for my highest finish for yonks.

Nice one Tony, an odd track to learn with all those changes of road surfaces and grip. ;D

I thought that this track would claim some drivers. Such an easy track, foot to the floor and no right turns, what could possibly go wrong?  ;)

Like others have stated, I thought my setup for the Merc was dam near perfection and was having a great race until I took the final turn on lap 2 only to see unfortunate Flash having a major crash near the pit lane entry. To late to brake or avoid, I had to try and judge his final location. We collided and that sent me into a pole which killed my car. Still was a treat to sit in the pits and watch the epic battle between Jose and Hayman, great driving guys.

BTW next season I want to run two six race series, one for Enduros and another for Sprints. I will be setting up a poll soon to allow you guys to vote for your top six tracks in each series that we are running this year. The poll will close after this seasons final LM55 event. I will post a link to the polls once there up and running.

 

Grats to Erling on a commanding drive and some great lap times and to all those who finished.

Something different for me, never really done oval racing before and I had been practising right hand corners all last month!!.
 I had downloaded the track before the weekend, but other than fire it up to make sure it worked and run one sighting lap in the Aston, I had done no practice...I figured there were not any corner sequences to learn  ::).

When I joined the server last night I simply pumped the tyres up to max pressure, stiffened the springs and dropped the dampers a notch. Set the final drive to the lowest number , 30 laps of fuel and rolled out for some practice laps.

1st lap out was a little tentative on cold tyres and watching for faster cars, but second lap just stood on the gas and let the car go. At T1 on lap 2 I lifted about 5% and quickly realised that I need not have bothered, so lap 3 I screwed the accelerator to the floor for the whole lap.  "Something wrong here" I thought. There are cars 5 seconds a lap faster than me and I am not lifting anywhere. I tried dropping the final drive a notch to push the top end revs closer to maximum but the car was slower.
I quit and checked the game settings ( don't know why??) rejoined and tried again. Still 5 secs slower!! It was not until Jose joined in the only other Aston and we found ourselves circulating together, that I realised the Aston was probably NOT the best car for this race lol!

I needed to get a race long tow from one of those D type fellas if I was going to score points here.
The start went well but I was having to lift in the corners to avoid rear ending a gaggle of Mercs and D types ahead. But at least I was getting the slipstream benefit  :D
After a few laps Eifel came blasting past in his D type after some early excursion and I hooked up behind him hoping to get towed all the way to the front. But basically I got scared by some of the moves ahead and dropped back just a fraction too far, losing the draught.
I think that after lap 2 the only time I lifted my right foot was to avoid Hayman?? and Flash?? who had tangled on the exit of T2. By the end of the race I almost had cramp in my right foot!! I had to back off in the last few laps to save fuel, but by then the race was over.

Maybe I should have downloaded all of the tracks for this series and done some planning re cars and circuits.

What a great but dangerous track - like in reality back in 1952 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenzlandring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenzlandring) )

During my private practice on sunday (online) I registered a 2:11.2 and thought "ok - maybe I'll be able to reach 2:10".
I was totally surprised when in free practice in my one and only complete lap I reached a 2:07 and in qualy a 2:06.
So I started from first row , lost a lot of places as the well known bad starter  ::) but was able to regain some places in
lap 2 and 3. With the help of the slipstream I registered the fastest lap of the race with 2:05.676 - totally unexpected
and unusual for me  :D.
During lap 4 I tried to pass two other drivers, touched the green and lost the car, which crashed heavily.
So another quick end for me  :( - but could watch some nice fights from outside  :).

CU next week. Thanks Tony for organizing. Great track - car combo.

Trying to post results tonight  ;)

Don't worry mate!  ;)

Results
 (http://googledrive.com/host/0B0VLrTJJX8K-flgtQkJUWXVDTFJrb2JhNEVwSE16NWtibTMxTUd4WXp0dFdzRVFablQteEU/index.html)

Thanks Jose.

BTW the next track in this series is the perfect antidote for all those right hand turns  ;)

 ;D - Thanks José

Finally a track where the Jag could shine a little..  :)

Early looks at the track suggested it would be well suited for the D-Type. With only one gear used for the entire lap, its 4-speed transmission would be less of a disadvantage, and the minimal braking meant that its tendencies to dart left or right at random under braking, wouldn't be as much of an issue.

Early testing went well, but things really clicked when I tried vintage tyres. Haven't liked them on the Jag before, and they did make the handling more tricky, being much more prone to locking up under braking, so you ploughed straight on. That's mostly fatal on this track. Thus had to be very delicate with the brakes, but I was substantially quicker on them, and as they're harder wearing, using them clearly was a no-brainer.

Online the car weered right every time I touched the brakes, which it strangely hadn't done offline.  Couldn't fix it in setup, so simply had to compensate with the steering.  Did a new pb in qual, but still very surprised to be on pole, with all the fast drivers attending.  Start was simple: max revs and dump clutch  :) - that made for a clean getaway without wheelspin or too much bogging down. Surprisingly I stayed ahead of the pack, which was a clear advantage - couldn't get caught by another driver's misfortune.

Slowly built a gap of about 4 secs to Doni, but then he left and the gap jumped to 10 secs.  Very lonely race from then on, but can't call it boring - had to stay 100% focused at all times, to avoid the fate that befell so many other drivers.

Tried hard to reclaim fastest lap, when I realised someone else had nicked it (grats Kurt)  ;)  Couldn't quite do it though; with a potential win within reach, it would have been exceedingly stupid to lose all in a vain attempt to claim this honor.

Extremely chuffed with the result of course - never in my wildest dreams had I imagined I could bag a win in the Jag  :o

Grats to all who finished, and commiserations to all those who suffered (spectacular) exits prematurely.

Thanks to Tony for setting it up, and for the unusual track selection.

Cheers,
Erling

Misnoimis, could it perhaps be your anti-virus, or would you happen to have a Citrix client or similar running?

I have to use Citrix when I work from home, and in a race last year, where I had been working earlier, I still had the Citrix client running in the tray, although the connection was closed.  Twice during the race; once in qualifying, and once in the race, I was yanked to the desktop, with GTL still running in the task bar, much like you describe.  I was luckier though, in that I only ended up in a big gravel pit and could continue.

Cheers,
Erling

My race was good until my problem half way through. I was a bit slow off the line probably due to high gearing but had fun gradually working my way up the field into third place and was enjoying some close slipstreaming with senyorlobo when the game suddenly minimized to my desktop taskbar. Not a disconnection or an error that crashed the game.  I realised now that my car was still in the race but I was unable to steer the car from the desktop screen. I guess I need a cockpit view.

Having hit the escape key a couple of times then clicked on the minimized GTL icon on the task bar I was back in the car. The replay showed it had a bit of an adventure while I was puzzling over why I was looking at my desktop. It may have been drivable but I could only think of hitting the escape key and making sure I was off the track.

I thought this was a very interesting and different challenge set by Tony. It probably suited me as I think I stumbled on a good setup and just having to concentrate on smooth steering and throttle control considerably reduced the amount of multi-tasking required. I see the next track requires breaking and gear changing as well so that’s me scuppered.

It is a complete mystery to me what caused my problem. I suspect it is a corrupt file I downloaded with a line in the programme saying something like “ If the driver has not made an error or loaded the wrong setup or has shot tyres and has not suffered any malfunction with his G27 steering wheel, shifter or peddle unit then his game will minimize.” It’s just a matter of finding what folder it’s in.

Edit Thanks Erling, I‘ll look into it.

My experience of similar CTD's is when another program pops up, usually informing of a pending update or similar. That's why I always use a program that turns all un-necessary software off before each race.

I use Game Booster, but I suspect you’re right.

Early practice for this event demonstrated my inability to keep the D-Type on the track so I settled for the Merc. Qualifying was nothing special and I ended up with P8 on the grid. When the lights turned green I had a good start and had an interesting  slipstreaming tussle with Hayman, Clive and Jose for P3. This lasted for a couple of laps until I managed to creep ahead and break the tow. Things settled down and Erling and Doni were pulling away up front while I was able to consistently increase the gap to P4 by a couple of tenths per lap. After a few laps I saw a cloud of smoke ahead and noticed Doni's car upsidedown so P2 was mine ! Erling was still pulling away so I remained in a lonely P2 to the chequered flag. Congrats to Erling and Jose for their podium places and thanks to Tony for giving us something completely different  :)

It has been bought to my attention that the results, as published, do not accurately reflect the final standings. I will of course investigate and make changes if found necessary.

Hi all

I had some exciting laps with Senorlobo (Jose).............and made a little video of that nice stuff.

go there>>>>>>>>>>>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vgrgp_3MYc&feature=youtu.be

greets hayman

That's a nice video Hayman; shame about the ending  :'(

Is it you playing the guitar ? - if so, I'm impressed!  :)

Cheers,
Erling

Sweet film Hayman. And is that you playing on the soundtrack?

Alternatively, PC is an open system with different mother boards, CPUs, RAM suppliers, GPUs, graphic card manufacturers, monitors etc.  Hence there are hundreds (at least) of different build standards available, which could be used by our drivers, so it doesn't surprise me that PCs, connected to a server occasionally pick up "noise" which causes interference which causes dropouts!

Having spent a number of years on aircraft integrated electronic systems it is impossible to test all possible variations that the aircraft might encounter during service.

Our integrated system is far simpler but in my view is similarly affected by other users in the "system".  ;D

Thanks for sharing the video with us, Hayman. Fantastic driving by you guys.
Awesome soundtrack too ... reminded me of the late, great Gary Moore  :)

hi

jep, I played the guitar over a backingtrack...............

I´m glad you like the vid

greets hayman

Yes great racing and great playing Hayman.  Enjoyed the race a lot myself.  Had a battle with Bill T. at the start.  A couple of septuagenairian ( I googled 70+ old farts) living a dream.  Most of the rest of the race was just racing the track and surviving.  Ran up on Mr E Clive and followed for a while  looking for a place to pass.  Finally was close enough at the start finish line to let the Jag unwind and pass him before the bad corner for me.  Jose was ahead of me by 30+ seconds so knew that was hopeless so just cruised home.  I cheated a little and used the bonnet view, used the big tach to regulate my speed through the two places I had to back it down a little.  5K through the first slow down and 5.3 to 5.5K through the second.  Kept me on the track the whole race.    Anyway good fun and track selection for these old bombs Tony....

Bob M.

You can see me crashing at about 00:45  ;D - thanks for posting.

Nice - what about Derek Trucks (Tedeschi Trucks Band) - my favorite guitar player at the moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiwktkw_rqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiwktkw_rqE)

(from Crossroads 2010)

or what about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZztYiIqx8XI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZztYiIqx8XI)

 8)

OK - I'll stop here!

Not at this time Bob, but Drivers are welcome to publish times in the relevant race thread.

Polls started for next seasons LM55 venues

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=79.0

Results now corrected.

It seems that I have still made errors so further changes may be made, sorry guys. Shoot the admin  :2guns:

Results now corrected (again).  :no: