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Title: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 09, 2014, 04:20:13 PM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=462&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 19

Track: East London (Prince George Circuit) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_prince_george)

Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Jaguar D-Type (1955 version only) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55), Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s)

Drivers are reminded that they are limited to only three drives with each make. Check your status HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdEVuUlBIYzMzMXVxODFVVzg0OW5ZZVE&usp=sharing)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 14
Post by: SpecialKS on September 01, 2015, 07:08:39 AM +0100
Is this one scheduled for the 7th or 14th September ???

 ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 01, 2015, 09:15:23 AM +0100
Is this one scheduled for the 7th or 14th September ???

 ;)

I had to shuffle some races around to give a bit more variety during the last quarter of this season. Looks like I need to do more work  ::)

In answer to your question this is for next Monday night (7th).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: SpecialKS on September 01, 2015, 10:16:45 AM +0100
Thank you Tony !


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 02, 2015, 07:20:11 PM +0100
Drivers note: This circuit has a 19 car maximum capacity.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Bob M. on September 02, 2015, 07:54:28 PM +0100
Geez sucks to be you as the last guy always on.  LOL  No if it becomes that crowded I for one will boot myself.  As a short time SROUK member, I'll give my spot to a driver running for season points.  Going to give the old AH 100 a run on this track........Blink your lights when you lap me please....and I will get out of your way!!

Bob M.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Geoffers on September 02, 2015, 09:39:55 PM +0100
Drivers note: This circuit has a 19 car maximum capacity.

Tony, try this one. I believe the track layout is identical but it can handle 36 cars.

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=39601


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 02, 2015, 11:37:10 PM +0100
Drivers note: This circuit has a 19 car maximum capacity.

Tony, try this one. I believe the track layout is identical but it can handle 36 cars.

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=39601

Good spot Geoffers, thank you. But looking at past round attendance figures I don't think we will have a problem. I know for a fact that several regulars are away for this'n.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 02, 2015, 11:40:43 PM +0100
Geez sucks to be you as the last guy always on.  LOL  No if it becomes that crowded I for one will boot myself.  As a short time SROUK member, I'll give my spot to a driver running for season points.  Going to give the old AH 100 a run on this track........Blink your lights when you lap me please....and I will get out of your way!!

Bob M.
Nice gesture Bob but I'm hoping that no-one will miss out. BTW I'm hoping to take the Healey as well so look forward to our duel.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Erling G-P on September 03, 2015, 11:00:34 AM +0100
So we're staying with the original track Tony, or should I download the alternative suggested by Geoffers ?

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 03, 2015, 12:32:48 PM +0100
So we're staying with the original track Tony, or should I download the alternative suggested by Geoffers ?

Cheers,
Erling
I would like to stay with the original track as a)I doubt we'll need more than 19 grid slots, and b) I won't be able to test the track for errors e.g. start lights work correctly, pitting works correctly, no rogue cut warnings etc etc. I think Saturday morning will be my first chance to test the alternative track and I feel that that is too late to change tracks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: hayman3131 on September 03, 2015, 03:35:00 PM +0100
hi

any benchmarks?
in 36ies atm with jag oder mercer

greets hayman


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 03, 2015, 07:11:50 PM +0100
1:35.7 for me in race trim  :wheelchair:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Bob M. on September 06, 2015, 03:14:54 PM +0100
Finally got some practice time in last nite, kids and grandkids went to a movie.  Labor day holiday weekend here in the states.  They are all leaving for home Monday  morning so should be good to race.  Anyway am running mostly 136's, had a few high 135's in the Austin 100 all in race trim and fuel.  Seems to me the AI are even crazier on this track.  LM55 cars are the worst!!!!  If you can make it through the first lap, then they string out and you can pick them off. 

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: SpecialKS on September 06, 2015, 05:54:35 PM +0100
Up to now I'm in the 1:39 in the Healey with standard settings  ???
Have to play around to find a suitable setup.
I hope there's still some space left for improvement  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Bob M. on September 07, 2015, 08:51:35 PM +0100
Guess I had a disco just as I went to the race.  Seconds counted down but no 1-2-3-Go.  Hope I didn't mess anyone up at the start.  Oh well always next week at Assen.......

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Gregman on September 07, 2015, 09:14:30 PM +0100
damn shit,,in Lap 10 or so my wife came in and forced me to repair the toilet and i cried : nooooooooooooo,please after the race !!!!!!!! but i made a mistake and Geoffers could overtake. After that i was total pissed of and lost concentration more and more ----grats jose at that point and nice battle Geoffers  ......cu next guys !!   Greg


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 07, 2015, 09:29:52 PM +0100
Guess I had a disco just as I went to the race.  Seconds counted down but no 1-2-3-Go.  Hope I didn't mess anyone up at the start.  Oh well always next week at Assen.......

Bob M.
Bob, if your car didn't appear on the start grid you don't lose the drive, so tonight doesn't count in your car roster.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 07, 2015, 09:41:05 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted.

Remember if you want to race this track again next season you need to vote for it here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13094.msg236005#msg236005)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: senyorlobo on September 07, 2015, 09:57:41 PM +0100
damn shit,,in Lap 10 or so my wife came in and forced me to repair the toilet and i cried : nooooooooooooo,please after the race !!!!!!!! but i made a mistake and Geoffers could overtake. After that i was total pissed of and lost concentration more and more ----grats jose at that point and nice battle Geoffers  ......cu next guys !!   Greg

 :o :o :o :o :o

I laughed a lot with your comment .... very very back luck . Sorry mate... but ......more important your toilet  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: EvilClive on September 07, 2015, 09:59:08 PM +0100
Once again lack of any off line practice caught me out  :-\. The setup was cobbled together during quali and I did not really check how much fuel it was drinking. So running out of fuel 2 laps from the end when I have 4th place in my pocket did not feel good...Rats!!!!! I had put an extra couple of litres in just for luck, but still ran dry  :-\

Grats to the Silver Arrows up front, those Mercs just had too much power and speed for my humble little Healey and it looked like Jose had his car singing. Still, I had a great dice with Erling for a few laps, some ( very) defensive driving kept him at bay for a while, but it was inevitable that he would get past at some point...hope I made it worth the effort  ;)

Thanks Tony for a great track choice.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Bob M. on September 07, 2015, 10:27:13 PM +0100
Tony:  My car made the grid according to the replay, it just sat there and didn't move.  I drove a half  of the lap and then I noticed no timer running so your call.  Still got 1 ride in the 100 left so not a problem for me.

Greg:  After being married for 50 years I can tell you toilets are very important to the females.  Can't just go out in the back of the house  and whip it out you know.

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Erling G-P on September 07, 2015, 11:49:03 PM +0100
What a contrast to last week's race.  Hated this track just as much as I loved Spa'67.  Deceptively simple, but the lack of brake markers and other features made it very difficult to judge your braking points.  Cars were all bitches, seemingly hellbent on swapping ends under braking, or at the very least veer off course.  If they didn't get you that way, they were ever so ready to mug you going out of the corners, should you apply the throttle a fraction too early or hard..  :o

Ironic then, but as often in the past, I end up having some great racing on a track I don't like  :)
Massive improvement of my pb in qual, but still one of the slowest Mercs, down in 5th - tough crowd this..  :)   
Made a bad start losing places, when both Clive and Phil squeezed past.  That was the start of a great 3-way duel lasting half the race.  Clive had made it past Phil, and later I did so too.  Chased Clive over many laps without finding a way past.  His confidence in my braking ability seemed boundless, when more than once, he moved from the side and in front of my car, just as he was slammin' on the anchors. Thankfully I didn't let him down, but it was soooo close  :o

An opportunity arose when he went on to the grass at the Back Straight.  I passed him, but his comeback move caught me by surprise; he shot up the inside under braking for Beacon Bend, grass on the tyres 'n' all, retaking the position.  Brilliant move Sir - rude, but brilliant..  ;)  Over the following laps he would prove every bit the wily buggar you'd expect.  I could poke my nose ahead of him between Rifle Bend and Cococabana Corner, but lap after lap, he would place his car on the extreme right, so I had to stay on the outside line and thus couldn't get past through the corner.  I lined my car up to 'dive under', in case he overshot, but it didn't happen.

Finally got past early enough to hog the inside line. Had Clive as a close shadow over a lap or two, until he ran wide and was replaced by Ziu. He was reeling me in, as I was reeling in Hayman.  Got past the latter in the same place as with Clive.  Caught a glimpse of Ziu spinning out of control, apparently losing it under braking.  Only when watching the replay did I realise there was contact between our cars, which probably contributed to it.  Sorry Ziu; was completely focused on Hayman and the corner, so had not realised at all that you were making a move on me.

Slowly extended the gap to Hayman over the following laps.  When he went off, it jumped from 2.5 to 9 secs, and the race went lonely.  Geoff was almost 30 secs ahead and still moving away, so no chance of advancing further.  Could thus coast to the finish in 3rd. Very happy about that, considering the company.

Grats to Geoff and Jose, and commiserations to those who didn't make it to the finish.  Sad to see Bill leave before the race had even started  :(

Bad luck about fuel Clive.  The Merc was about 10% down, but as far as I could tell from by brief testing of them, the others were worse.  Better take a large extra gulp, if you haven't had the chance to check it beforehand.  Looked like you had car troubles again when joining.  Didn't you get it solved the last time ?

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 08, 2015, 12:05:20 AM +0100
Tony:  My car made the grid according to the replay, it just sat there and didn't move.  I drove a half  of the lap and then I noticed no timer running so your call.

It's obvious that you must of lost your internet connection or some such cos you might be on the grid but you didn't move an inch. You scored no points so I'm happy to let that one go. So you still have two drives in the Healey.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Geoffers on September 08, 2015, 12:34:22 PM +0100
in Lap 10 or so my wife came in and forced me to repair the toilet and i cried : nooooooooooooo,please after the race !!!!!!!! but i made a mistake and Geoffers could overtake. After that i was total pissed of and lost concentration more and more ----grats jose at that point and nice battle Geoffers  ......cu next guys !!   Greg

Shame Gregman, it was a good battle, you were a little faster & probably would have beaten me in the end, bad luck. After Gregman went out my race was rather lonely, I was well ahead of Erling & could not match the pace of Jose. Only enlivened by a trip onto the grass at the final turn when I braked a bit too late.

Congrats to Jose & Erling, hope to see you all at Assen.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: hayman3131 on September 08, 2015, 06:20:50 PM +0100
hi all

good race. I´m happy with place 4 with jag, extremly nervous car. with merc I was faster on this track, but I keep my last merc for other races.
most of the laps I was going alone, no chance to get to the front guys, and guys behind around 7 secs away.
but then coyote and ziu were coming closer, I expected that.
oh my good, I had very good luck at timestamp 1696. I gave room for coyote and ziu, they passed, but then ZIu tried overtaking before T3 , which was way to optimistic. It was impossible to overtake coyote like this. ZIU miss braked, touched gras and slided in front of my car. very good luck for me, that there was no collision, this would have ruined my race.
ZUI, little more patience please. think about impossible overtaking situations. better for others (race ruin) and better for you. after that you did ESC, no points for you.................because of impossible overtaking style.

greets hayman


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Bob M. on September 08, 2015, 07:33:58 PM +0100
OK guy's lets take a couple of deep breaths and turn the page!!!!  It's not that big a deal, it's just a game..........  Zui, as a  team member you are forbidden to quit, you have a contract to honor,  Ati will agree with me I am sure. (sarcasm).  Let's all just show up next week at Assen and do our best.  Much better track as far as markers for braking and such. GTL needs every driver it can find here and over at GC.   Do as I say, not as I do because I have been both the wrecker and the wreckee as most of us have been if you have played this game very much.   Pep talk over.....

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: senyorlobo on September 08, 2015, 07:49:04 PM +0100
OK guy's lets take a couple of deep breaths and turn the page!!!!  It's not that big a deal, it's just a game..........  Zui, as a  team member you are forbidden to quit, you have a contract to honor,  Ati will agree with me I am sure. (sarcasm).  Let's all just show up next week at Assen and do our best.  Much better track as far as markers for braking and such. GTL needs every driver it can find here and over at GC.   Do as I say, not as I do because I have been both the wrecker and the wreckee as most of us have been if you have played this game very much.   Pep talk over.....

Bob M.

Totally agree Bob.

Guys, just a game. Each of us has his driving style. Some are more aggressive than others but all are gentleman drivers.
I've seen the replay and for me it's just a race incident. Not much to say. And we don't need create more controversy.

Keep calm guys.

Cheers!



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: SpecialKS on September 08, 2015, 08:44:53 PM +0100
Results
 (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_OXdKMmNYdTBOdFU?ltmpl/index.html)




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: senyorlobo on September 08, 2015, 09:10:14 PM +0100
Results
 (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_OXdKMmNYdTBOdFU?ltmpl/index.html)




Thanks  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: hayman3131 on September 08, 2015, 11:02:49 PM +0100
Hi Jose

I can not totally agree with your opinion: Seeing it as race incident. (Yes, but that incident would have been avoidable, if gentlemandriver on wheel)
Thxs god I did not crash into his car, this would have ruined my race. for what?
It was impossible to overtake like this, really way to optimistic without thinking to other drivers. really hot-head. aliens dont need that. gentlemandriving?

greets hayman


OK guy's lets take a couple of deep breaths and turn the page!!!!  It's not that big a deal, it's just a game..........  Zui, as a  team member you are forbidden to quit, you have a contract to honor,  Ati will agree with me I am sure. (sarcasm).  Let's all just show up next week at Assen and do our best.  Much better track as far as markers for braking and such. GTL needs every driver it can find here and over at GC.   Do as I say, not as I do because I have been both the wrecker and the wreckee as most of us have been if you have played this game very much.   Pep talk over.....

Bob M.

Totally agree Bob.

Guys, just a game. Each of us has his driving style. Some are more aggressive than others but all are gentleman drivers.
I've seen the replay and for me it's just a race incident. Not much to say. And we don't need create more controversy.

Keep calm guys.

Cheers!




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: chmichel on September 09, 2015, 07:39:41 AM +0100
Guys I'm sorry to interfere but it's just a game, and accidents happen during races, so no need for this tension, sometimes we think we can drive this way or that way and the opponent think it's not feasible so everyone has his point of view !

Just chill out and keep on racing ! GTL is a great game and we should keep it alive !!!

Have a good day you all !!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Geoffers on September 09, 2015, 09:02:34 AM +0100
Guys can we please stop discussing this incident on the forum. This is not how SROUK works, it may be tolerated at GC & NG, but here things are done differently. If you have a problem with something that has happened during a race you should submit an incident report to the moderators (under the results near the top of the page), the moderator will then review it & decide if any penalties need to be applied.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints - East London - Sep 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 11, 2015, 02:20:35 PM +0100
Hi Guy's. I've been away for a few days on a little holiday and deliberately went "of the grid" e.g. no phone, computer etc etc so this is my first post now I'm back online.

Geoffers is quite correct. We try to pursued drivers with a grievance not to post on the forum but instead to send in a moderation request. Someone will then look into the alleged incident and file a report.

We believe that this is a better way.

Also it is often better if the driver leaves it for 24hrs before requesting moderation. Things sometimes don't seem quite so bad if a little time is left to reflect on the "incident".