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Track: 1970 Daytona Road course Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_daytona70)

Cars allowed: BMW 2002tii (not the "S" variant) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/s3.php/gtl/cars/SRou_GTL_BMW_2002tii_1.0.0.0.exe), Datsun 240Z (not the "ZG" variant) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_datsun_240z), Mazda RX-3 (Gr.4) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mazda_rx3), Porsche 911 GTU Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_porsche_911_gtu), Porsche 914-6 GTU (not the 914-4) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_porsche914gtu)

Drivers are reminded that they are limited to only two drives in each car. Check your status HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdFN5S2tNMGVWUmR0MHBFem1RaWFISEE&usp=sharing)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (24 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: This race is flag started. However the flagman is out of sync with the in-game countdown and you could get a stop/go for a jumped start if you go with the flag. I would strongly suggest that the in-game countdown is switched on for this race.
Blue light warning! Please read this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12734.msg235602#msg235602)

Sadly won't be able to do this race.  No: 1 Grandson's wedding on Sunday so will travelling home from Stroud - Bank Holiday Monday. ::) :surrender:

Despite the top speed being a little down on the others, this could be the ideal track to tackle in the Mazda :laugh:

Bill - Best wishes to you and your family on the 24th. Sounds like a very exciting weekend.

Thanks.  8)

I'm new to the forum and I just want to clear up whether I'm free to dive into the UKGTL and UKPNG races or whether there's a registration page I'm overlooking. I see that all the races I'm interested in are listed as open series but then there's text in the rules about full time and reserve drivers so I thought it best to ask the dumb question before stepping on any toes.

That said, hi I'm Dana! I'm a 27 year old american woman with simracing interests that center primarily on 1965-80 historical series so the 1974 IMSA events are right up my alley and I'm eager to (hopefully) see you folks on the track at Daytona.

Hi Dana and welcome to Simracing.org.uk.

We only need reserve drivers when series are over subscribed and that's not currently relevant to either GTL or P&G (wish that it were). Your advised to try and join our online practise sessions to check that you have no problems before race night. The server runs 24/7 except when another series is running a race, e.g. Wednesday, Thursday & Sunday nights.

Shout out if you have any questions/problems etc.

Cheers

Tony

BTW all our Season 15 GTL series are listed here for your perusal. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=443&theme=5

Hi Dana

Same goes for the P&G events, just make sure you can join the practice server
I run a backup server as well in case we have any issues with our main on eon the night.

Tony is getting really good grids these days in GTL  :thumbup1:
P&G is less well attended so far this year, but we keep plugging away, as long as there are
takers we keep running events.
We have a series for V8s in both GTL and P&G, and other series for 50's cars and other
particular race flavours.

It's probably not needed at the moment, but we traditionally close down the other game servers
when we are running a race, so the practice server may not always be there.

Hi Dana !
Glad you are joining us.  Good to see another American in the field.  I live in the middle of a corn field in Iowa. My track name is oldgeezer, because I am retired and as they say 73 years young and stuck in the sixties, so GTL is the sim for me.. You will find that this site is a great community of gentlemen drivers, and all will be helpful in getting you set up for racing.  Don't just race the IMSA series join us in all the series.  I was mostly familiar with GTC and muscle car racing when I started on this site, and have really enjoyed the different format that rotates weekly.  Great challenge......

Have fun and see you at the track!
Bob M.

Welcome Dana !

Yes indeed!! welcome to GTL.

Hi all

I did some laps there. max revs nearly all time of road.....................................
If you want to destroy your ears........................take the Mazda............ ;D..................nice chainsaw-sound in hi revs.
turn the radio louder!

looking forward to this

cya
greets hayman

Hey Hayman:

I tried the Mazda also and know what you mean.  Was tinkering in the garage area and found on this car you can change the ratios of the individual gears in the tranny so you can change 5th gear a click and keep it out of redline.  Doesn't seem to make it any faster though in my tests.  Will drive the BMW, can't stand that constant scream, but I know sooner or later I'm going to have to use the little guy.

See you all at the track
Bob M.

Missed this post Bill. Have a great day and go easy with the Dad Dancing  :nono:

WARNING Please read the following

It has been brought to my attention that on these wide oval circuits a lapped car might not slow to allow a leading driver by, due to comparative speeds and the track being so wide. However GTL will consider ANY constant blue light ignoring as a misdemeanour and will punish you with a DQ.

Therefore drivers are requested to let a lapper by when ever a blue light is given. You may of course then follow the lapper but only pass them if your confident that you can out-distance them before the blue light police hit you with a ban.

Hi Bob

I drove Mazda on Laguna secca. Was perfect car for that track, for ears too. BMW is my favourite here too.

cya
hayman

Tony, I've discovered an error in the car status list:  I'm registered as having used a 914, but it was in fact a 911 in the last race.  The other ones are correct (2 x Mazda, 1 x 240Z).

Big welcome to Dana - hope you'll like it here in the madhouse..  :)

Cheers,
Erling

No possibility to practice as I'm not at home over the weekend
(mother's 80th birthday) - but I'll be there.

Happy Whitsun  :)

Sorry Erling. I'll fix that now.

Tony - Were you aware of the fuel limitations of the BMW and Mazda for 24 laps of this circuit? I've just noticed that (according to my garage anyway) you can only fill up for a max of 22 laps for these two cars.

No I wasn't! Let me check that out and I'll post my findings here later. Thanks for the heads-up tho  :thumbup2:

I can confirm that, with a full tank of fuel, the BMW is capable of 32 laps and the Mazda will last for 34 laps.

GTL is notoriously inaccurate with it's fuel predictions for modded tracks. That's why most use XD to get accurate lap/fuel stats.

I know you don't like XD so if you need the stats for a particular car you could post the question in the race thread or send me a pm and I'll get an answer back to you.

Tony - Although I've been racing GTL on and off since its release, it's only been quite recently that I've moved onto the modded tracks and never noticed the surplus fuel at the end of each race :laugh:. So thanks for the above info with which I've managed to calculate how much fuel I'll need to get the rotary screamer round 24 laps :D

Steve, there's not always surplus fuel - on some tracks a car will do fewer laps than indicated by the setup screen. Thus it's vital to verify before the race - or bring an ample reserve.

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks for the warning, Erling :thumbup1:.

Knowing now that a full tank in the RX3 gives approx 34 laps instead of 22 at Daytona, I've scaled down the gals by the same %, (this is using the std gtl garage) adding my usual 10% buffer along the way, then sent the Mazda round on AI. The fuel light lit up on the penultimate lap so it will be a close run thing this evening. Yes, its tempting to pump in plenty of reserve, but your mind is always on the weight issue. I had problems loading XD the last time I tried so will have to stick with the game's original garage screen info, but using Tony's info on this occasion does mean I can start with about 5 gals less than I would have put in, which must be worth a few 10ths per lap :laugh: 

Thanks for a lovely if hectic first SROUK race, folks!

Very good fun,thanks all.Nice battle Jose grats and thanks  ;) (sorry i do not speak Englis.Google translator  :) )

First of all ... my apologies to anyone who was compromised when I slewed violently to the right at the start  :oops: It was very strange and I was in good company as Clive did just the same ! I ended up at the back of the field and the first two or three laps were a nightmare ... a couple of 'offs' and a mega high-speed slide along the wall on the oval. Eventually things settled down and I closed in on Misnoimis. Drafting was fun and I used it to my advantage only to have another 'off' and have to pass Misnoimis all over again. Fortunately that was the last of my unforced errors and I was able to pick up places as other drivers had 'moments' of their own. Some great cat-and-mouse chases followed, particularly with Clive and Postal. Eventually I was in P4 with my regular nemesis Erling about 10 sec ahead. I was just a bit quicker than him but not enough laps remained unless he made a mistake ... and a couple of laps from the end he did ... suddenly the gap was just under 4 sec ... ok, GAME ON  ;D. I drove as hard as I could but Erling had regained his composure and he finished just under 2 sec ahead ... brilliant stuff, great drive Sir.
Congrats to Jose, Ati and Erling for the podium and thanks to Tony for putting it all together  8)

Replay and results now posted.

After very little practice again (I must practice for the next race) and a car that was not handling at all as I expected (I wonder if I loaded the wrong set up? I also tried the Datsun) I made a big error with a half dozen laps to go, hit the wall and went endlessly tumbling into space off the edge of disc world.  :eek:
 
I hope others enjoyed their race and the usual grats to podiums and all.  :clap:

I need to watch the replay cos one minute you were just ahead of me but lower down the track then you disappeared! I thought we had collided but I felt no impact but it must of been close.

Don’t worry, if we did touch it was because I lost control.  ;)

Great race yesterday.

Very good fun with my friend Ati. Thanks for waiting mate  ;)
Every lap was very intense. overtaking after overtaking.  ;D

I felt a bit long race, 50 minutes is too much for my aching back.

Special mention to Dana. It's her first time in GT Legends? Her pace was really good all the race. Great start into the league. I hope to see you in the next races.

Grats Bill Grewcock for the fastest lap. if you had not had that problem at the start certainly you would have fought for victory.

Grats Ati and my teammate Erling for another pod. Good job!

Thanks all for racing. Thanks Tony for choose this great track!  ;)

Cheers

Results (http://googledrive.com/host/0B0VLrTJJX8K-fkQ5MmdnX18tdVJmcGctR1F3ZFJSb1RudFo4YlZ4M0lfVi01cUpYazV5eXc/index.html)

Jose, it is our understanding that Dana is female.

fixed  ;D

Fixed more  ;)

My english is so bad...  :(

Thanks for the results, José.

Not much to talk about. Missing about 5 seconds to the top.
There were no online setups for 70Daytona available so without any praccy very difficult.

Dropped to last during lap 2 - at least I could score a new pb - and left due to lack of motivation.

Overall a very bad performance by myself in this series  :(

Missed that  ::)

Thanks for the results Jose  :thumbup1:

Well at least I don't have to drive that  :censored: Mazda again! Knew I would be slower than the majority but had to get rid of my last Mazda drive and this track was better than any for doing that. The car has an awful tendency to want to face the direction it has just come from if you go too slowly around turns  ??? Well it did for me anyway. Hence my falling down the order from a gleefull 6th to almost last. Kudos to Steve for the way he took the Mazda and strangled some extra MPH out of it.
I had been concerned that an almost oval circuit would not be popular but it seems that I was wrong. Good really as we re-visit this circuit for the final round and have Talladega next in the series.
Nice turnout again, thanks guys. Seeing so many more cars on the start grid makes all the effort worthwhile.

Grats to Jose and ATI who had their own fun out front. Also to Erling  and Bill who both took advantage of my brain fade at half distance!!

I managed to find about 30 mins to download the track ( which I knew from other sims) and try a few laps, just to get a feel for these IMSA  cars on the banking.

Chose the 914-6 simply because it appeared to have the highest top speed, when I glanced at the spec in the showroom and set about tweaking the setup ready for the race last night. Now, before you all tell me that the IMSA GTU 914-6 has the same top speed as all the other cars.........."yes it does!". But numpty here was looking at the Std 914-6, which has a top speed ( allegedly ) of 147mph and I built the setup on that car!!! I only discovered my mistake when I tried to join the server for the race.  " CAR NOT PRESENT ON SERVER" was the message.  :(

So I selected the correct car  ::) and joined the chaos. I loaded the setup I had made, and the only thing I needed to change was the gear ratios as the car seemed OK!!!

All of quali was spent dialling in the car and me to the track and gradually creeping up the order. All of that was a waste of time as I totally screwed the start and swung around into the armco. Thanks to Bill for halving my embarrassment, by joining me!!  ;)

My progress through the field was remarkable by the fact that I only had to make about 2 overtakes!!! every time that I caught a group of cars they threw themselves into the green stuff!! Thanks guys  :thumbup1:
Before long I was up to 3rd place having snuck past Erling around the bottom of the banking. For a few laps the gap just gradually grew and I was feeling quite pleased with myself, sitting in 3rd spot ( Jose and ATI were way ahead by now)after such a cock up at the start.
Daytona only has 2 right hand corners, and for the first 10 laps they presented no problem at all. But somewhere around lap 10-12 I lost the ability to brake and turn right twice on each lap!! It was definitely NOT the car or damage, and it was not tyres ( BTW my tyres showed only about 2% degradation at the end of the race??? is that possible???).............it was me!!
For a whole sequence of laps I ran wide or half spun. My gap to Erling vanished and I watched him go past, and then I helped him escape, by continuing to make a mess of those same corners. Now it was Bill's turn to reel me in and make a pass whilst I cut the grass.
Postal was threatening to pass me as well before the flag, but from somewhere I dredged up the lost memory of how to turn right and held on.

I'm still not confident about this group of cars as they appear to have far more grip than I am used to, but looking at the fastest laps in the race i was potentially not so far off the pace........although I was off the track too often.

Thanks for the fun Tony

This was a truly entertaining race  :yes:

Settled for the 914 in offline testing, as it was the quickest for me (but they were all close).

Clive just pipped my time late in qual, relegating me to 4th.  Most courteously, he then stuffed the start completely  ;)  As both Jose and Ati also seemed a bit wobbly, the miracle happened, and I wound up in front.  Alas, lasted only to T1..  From hero to zero in one easy click; as I downshifted, I lost the rear and spun off..  :censored:  Rejoined in 12th, but quickly made up some places, when cars in front fell off.

Got past Bob in more regular fashion, by some slipstreaming, putting me in 6th behind Steve. When he fell off in the righthand hairpin, I was 5th - for about 2 secs!  In a bout of misplaced sympathy, I went off in much the same fashion, handing it to Clive, whom I had in tow.  Did the exact same error next lap, letting Postal past (apparently I suffered a mild case of the same brainmelt as Clive..)  Managed to catch and pass Postal again at the start of the following lap, putting me back in 6th. Later same lap, I passed Dana after she had a moment.  Next up was Roger, and I was now in 4th, chasing Clive. Passed him when he fell off as he mentioned, and then had him as my shadow for the next many laps.  Gap seesawed a little, depending on how well he got through the righthanders..  ;D

With about 1/3 of the race left, it seemed Clive suddenly got a second wind, as the gap started dropping.  With a podium almost within my grasp, I of course started getting nervous and making mistakes. As the finish was nearing, I had nasty deja-vu's of Clive slipstreaming and beating me on the very finish line in the 50's Sprints.  Fortunately I didn't have to see a repeat of that yesterday  :sweatdrop:  Only after the finish did I realise that it was in fact Bill closing on me and not Clive - they were in very similar looking cars, and I couldn't tell the difference in my mirror.  Quite a stellar drive Bill - I was lucky the race ended when it did!  :)

Grats to Jose and Ati - Jose, I tried your Datsun setup from the last race.  Very nice and will definitely go back to it next time I use that car, so thanks for sharing it!

Thanks to Tony for arranging - and very nice to see such a large grid  :yes:

Cheers,
Erling

As usual good fun and track choice from Tony.  The first 10- 12 laps it seemed I just drove the track and dodged the cars who were spinning in the right handers of the infield.  Then Hayman appeared in my mirror about L12 and I went into defense mode.  We were both in BMW's,  he always outbraked me going into the curves and for some reason mine was quicker getting out of the corner and on the oval.  We finally touched in a corner and I went just wide enough so he went by and didn't know it at the time but Dana was there also in the 911.  So the three of us spent about 10-12 laps running together and none of us can pass or pull away.  Got to try some drafting with Dana, could pull up on her and we seemed to be faster than Hayman but always ran out of oval before we could get by.  I also tried several times to pull up on her and then pop out and try to pass her that way, but the BMW must be as aerodynamic as a brick because I would get even with her and the 911 would pull back ahead.  Didn't try the old NASCAR bump drafting like you can do with the muscle cars for fear of wrecking us.  No way to treat a lady either.  The lady can drive though, knows how to take a corner and stays cool under pressure. Hope she decides to drive the LM55 cars and V8's,  won't be suprised if she gets a podium soon.

Good fun as always here at SROUK!!!!
Bob M.

Hi Bob

yeah, that was hard work..............to get you.
In the oval you were much faster, I even could not get your slipstream. So only chance was in T1 or T2. Damn I gave you that hit, but I let you go in front again. Later I could pass you and had you and Dana in the back. On the last 100m she got me....grats!
I looked the replay, watched Ati/Senorlobo fight. There I noticed, that Senorlobo was also faster than Ati in the oval. I wonder why? Tire pressure maybe?

Good fun as always here

Greets hayman

I was also surprised. Maybe Ati forget put the maximum rpm in the setup.

damn, did not know, that it´s possible with Beemer.
ok, next time!

greets hayman

Hi Jose

I checked my setup for Beemer. Jep, i used max rpm 9200 in race, with that best lap 2:04.2xx
With max rpm I managed 2:02.8xxx
there will be another Daytona!____________________________________________________    ;D

greets hayman

Best keep an eye on your engine health if you mess with the rev limit...  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

I started the race with 90% engine health and finished the race about 60-70 %  ;)

Hayman

I too was using the 9200 rev limit--21#airF--21.5#air R--chassis slammed down.  Maybe recalibrate your pedal?  I use a G25 so maybe difference in the controllers.  I know I am a early braker and set up for a good exit, all the years from driving V8's and other big motor cars...Maybe just a mystery of life!

Later
Bob M.