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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (24 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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My first time at this circuit. As there are no lap records above, I'm wondering how my 2.06's compare with other drivers, if they want to share their times :)

Well, that's almost 8 secs faster than me..  :o

Cheers,
Erling

Haven't turned a wheel yet  :(

Hi mate. I only made a few laps with bimmer and my time is 2.07's braking before the finish line.  ;)

Would any of you guys be willing to share a hotlap replay ?

I'm in Bimmer too, and wouldn't mind seeing how you can be that much quicker..  :)

Cheers,
Erling

2.05.6  ;)

Replay hot lap (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0VLrTJJX8K-fkZDcEZaUlRxdHViYndsY3QyR3o0ZTNtUlMzSDI5S0hNR0FwcjZyR3ZYWTQ&usp=sharing)

Thanks Jose, will give it a look late tonight.  I haven't practiced much, but still puzzled I am that much slower.  Can probably improve my times a little, but knocking 8 secs off seems very unlikely. Wonder if we're on the same track..  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

It's normally me who is about 8 secs behind everyone else, Erling.

I'm also amazed that I did it in the Datsun and only chose this car because I was having trouble controlling the others.

Will check out your hotlap this evening Jose, thanks.

Edit - ....also braking before the line.

hi

Beemer seems to be best car here...............
But I will use Porka 914, 2:08.6xx so far.

cya

greets hayman

Datsun laptime 2:06.xxx  but not the best car on this track  ;)

Thanks again Jose.  Looks like you're cutting corners some more, and have much more grip at braking and cornering.  Have fiddled with setup, but best I can manage is 2:08.6, so quite impressed with your speed  :o

Cheers,
Erling

For learning the track I did a bit of private praccy offline on Saturday in the BMW M1 Procar by BLT  ::) - what a great car  ;)
Very funny - and fast  ;D

No idea yet which car to take tonight.

CU on track.

That sounds distinctly like a suggestion for Tony..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

 :offtopic: Cough cough (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=493&theme=5)

 ;D

GTL rocks !!!


But thanks for the heads up - hadn't seen the plans for 2016 yet ::) - looking good!

A dirty trick to play on an old duffer like me....!!!! I had 20 minutes last night and thought I had better check this "new" circuit out as I have never heard of it before.

"Download this track"........click link and watch download complete. "Install"....watch all of the clever stuff happen......

a quick look to make sure the track is there and that the cars work.....(ahem! I have had issues previously and one cannot be too careful    ;D)

Fire up GTL with  private practice....navigate to Talladega track file....select a random car from the car pack......watch track the load.

Jump in car...!!!??"!?!?!?!?  Why am I at Daytona??? when I thought I had selected the new Talladega circuit.

Exit to Windows, repeat download, repeat install........fire up GTL...............still seeing Daytona!!! What is going wrong here?????

After 3 attempts the penny finally dropped when I looked carefully at the track map!!! "Doh!!!"  So although I have discovered that Talladega appears to be just Daytona with attitude I have only managed about 2 laps and it looks like I shall be playing sweeper for this race.
2:05's are an impossible time from where I am looking at the moment, either there is a shortcut or my car is missing the hyperspace button option!!  ..............Or of course, maybe this really IS the wrong track???

 ::)

Well, you can join me then; my car is apparently also missing the hyper drive..  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

I'm doing 2:11 in the few laps I have done so far.

BMW good choice.Online setup "bmw 2002 Ati"

Hi Ati!

share your laptime please ...maybe 2:03.xx ?????  ;)

No no Jose.10-15 lap test 2.05.xxx  ;)

No need to worry about me filling the podium guys- I've realised my 2.06's were helped by a lot of slipstreamimg during practice - more like 2.08 in private practice mode :(

I like the sound of Mini's v Skoda's. Any chance of revealing which Skoda model, Tony?

I did a couple of laps with the 911 GTU, my best was around 2.11 I guess I'm way too far from the pace !!! :-\

Datsun online setup "Datsun 240z ati" Good laptime 2;04.9xx  ;)

You and me both Michel

ATi I guess u come from another planet  :o ;D

Will check it out, thanks Ati :thumbup1:

I guess it will remain under wraps ftb ;)

I don't generally reveal the finer details of next seasons series until about December time as things can change. But the 130RS shouldn't be totally ruled out  ;)

Good start,nice battle Jose.After powerful spill  :o The car difficult to steer but good battle Greg  ;) Grats and thanks all,see you next race.

Mixed emotions for me tonight, but on the whole really enjoyed the evenings challenge :thumbup2:

Having started last, found myself working through the pack very slowly until reaching and maintaining 4th for quite some time, quite an achievement by my standards. Of course, something unexpected usually crops up and this time it was that little red flashing light catching my attention - fuel. I thought I had filled up with some to spare, but no, and despite changing up sooner, found myself coasting to a standstill with about 500 metres to go, losing 2 places.

Well done to the podium  8) and to all those who made it across the line - looking forward to Avus already.

Sorry to miss this one. We got hot and thirsty playing golf to-day and stopped for an extra round of drinks so I missed the start time. I hope to make next weeks race when I’ll be a year older and wiser. Or maybe just a year older….  :whistling:

Replay and results now posted.

I wasn't too keen on this track and so I decided to take the Mazda in order to get it out of the way  :(. Practice showed that I could dip into the 2:09s but that was about it so I was expecting a lonely race at the back of the field. Qualifying was about as expected but when the race started I was amazed to find myself circulating behind Erling  :o. As things settled down I found that I was quicker than him through the twisties but his Beemer was faster on the banking. Even if I got into Erling's slipstream and so gained some momentum my poor ol' Mazda ran out of steam when I pulled out to pass and dropped back behind. This cat-and-mouse went on for many laps with Erling sticking to his line through the bendy bits and then me trying to keep up around the oval. It seemed like stalemate until Erling made the tiniest of errors in T1 and I was able to sneak past into T2  ;D. I was able to pull a few tenths per lap and was feeling quietly confident until I noticed that Steve was quickly closing on Erling. When Steve had gained the place I tried to push harder and overcooked it when turning onto the banking. The resulting spin allowed both Steve and Erling to pass  ::). The final few laps saw me trying desperately to close the gap to Erling and, given another 24 laps, I might have succeeded but the chequered flag put and end to that  :P

Congrats to Jose, MaiPor and Gregman for the podium places and particular thanks to Erling for an excellent race  :)

Ok, maybe there's something I'm not aware of. When the race ended, I was placed 6th but the chart shows 9th. No worries. Still enjoyed it all :laugh:

nice race for me ...i liked the 914/6 very much ,,,,get used to it,,, not many battles on this long track, except with Ati ;)  (damn alien)   Grats Jose (senyor) !!  and Maipor ....grats all !! I try to join now and then !!  nice community  :)

I think the scoring always places finishers higher than non-finishers. I can have that confirmed if you would like?

Nice to have you with us

I agree with that phrase, Tony. Because I only saw two cars pass me whilst I was stationary before the race ended and with the board confirming I had dropped from 4th to 6th, I assumed that was going to be my finishing position. I don't wish to take up any of your time, but IT discrepancies have always fascinated me. I cannot call up replays here, but if you are able to have a look and let me know what happened that would be great :)

Will do, leave that with me.

Anyone know what's happened to Roguk? Been missing for over a month now.

hi


tz        tz          tz, bad luck 4 me
In lap 3 I did not get first turn, I landed behind the right wall, drove along it to get on track again. but then "wrong direction" appeared. ok, I turned in the gras and after having reached the track again: "S+go".
ok, to pit, limiter on (jep Tony, it´s now on the stick shifter ) stoped, limiter on again, after green light: "to fast in pitlane". ok, into pit again in next lap, pit in, limiter on, stop, limiter on, pit out green light: "to fast in pitlane". ok, again and for the third time same procedere. oh! yeah! it worked  :laugh:
6 cars 2 laps in front then, 4 cars 1 lap in front. uh! makes me wonder to get place 10. jep, it´s for the survivers, who dont give up!

nice fun with you guys here, great and fair driving, hat´s off !

greets hayman

Unfortunately Bill Grewcock drove an illegal choice of car (Mazda RX-3 for a third time) and is consequently disqualified. Sorry Bill  :(

It was a fun race really, nice track and the 911 GTU suited my driving, so it was fair race, raced a bit with Tony but i did some errors, I hope I didn't block anyone's race.

hope to c u all again on the next Track

cheers 

Results (http://googledrive.com/host/0B0VLrTJJX8K-fnFWMzFyQWpxcGw2Q0dxbjlHTk9TWXlXREl5X3YzZ3VQQkFsLU9USXVVQjg/index.html)

Good fun yesterday.

Very close times in qualy.  ;D
The start was good but Ati and Maipor too close to me.
In lap 4 at the fast chicane I made a little mistake braking too late and I made the chicane at very low speed. Ati passed me for the right and he could not avoid me and touched my lateral. Unfortunately his car flew out.  :( Very badk luck.
I lost my concentration for a few laps and my friend Marc passed me.
In lap 12 I got passed Marc and I took my car to the finish line 1st.  ;D

Grats Marc for the 2nd place and grats Gregman for the 3rd race in his 1st race.  ;)

Thanks all for racing. Great grid.

Cheers.

Thanks José  :)

Thanks Jose  :thumbup1:

Driving the Mazda more than necessary should really be punishment enough Tony..  ;)

Can only speak for myself, but think it was an honest mistake, and doubt Bill gained anything from it, so personally I would have no problem if he retains his position, and just have a drive in another car removed.

Cheers,
Erling

I would not have a problem with that Erling. I would have to decide which car he would lose a drive in (probably the BMW).

However if anyone thinks the DQ should stand they should perhaps pm me before Saturday.

Just want to say a HUGE thanks to everyone who donated and helped us meet our quarterly cost's.

You guy's are great  :notworthy:

Totally agree. +1

For the same reasons, I'm also happy for Bill to retain his position.

It's funny; I quite liked Daytona, but couldn't get to grips with this version at all.

Improved my pb in qual, but that still didn't get me any further than midfield. Gained a place at the start, but lost it again at the start of L2.  From then and until midrace, I had Bill G as my very close and exceptionally noisy shadow.  He did his best to slipstream me down the oval, and initially I did my best to foil his attempts.  After some laps, when the noise just got too much, I pretty much just held my line, so he could slipstream past me all he liked. Except he couldn't: like Bill described, as soon as he pulled out from the slipstream, the Mazda ran out of puff, so he didn't get past.

Made up some places when others fell off, but eventually Bill found a way past, in a very clean move through the twisties. He soon pulled away, so clearly was faster. Have to commend you for your patience Bill - a more hotheaded driver would probably have muscled through, or pushed me out of the way much sooner..  :)  Thanks for a great race, despite the noise..  ;D

Faster too was Steve, who caught me. Had a moment out of the chicane, where I ended up grazing the wall and making a pass easy for him.  Few laps later I wondered what had happened to Bill, as we both passed his stationary car.  Was running 5th towards the end, when on the last lap, I passed a stationary Steve, to take a not fully deserved 4th.

Grats to the podium and commiserations to those who fell out - especially Steve, who had 4th in the bag, but ran out of fuel. Strange if you put in extra fuel Steve. I only tried the Beemer and it would go longer than setup suggested.  Thus I started the race with 21 laps worth of fuel, but it was in fact enough for 25-26 laps.

Cheers,
Erling

Enjoyed that. Was having some good tussles with people, but as the rears wore the car became very wobbly
and I wobbled off the track a few times and got two stop and goes. as the second one was only a few laps
from the end and I was now way behind, i parked it. Good fun though.

I was my own worst enemy last night, Erling. Had practiced during the week and found that 20 lapsworth of fuel got me round the 24 laps, with a little to spare and I did this 3 times. So the red mist did its job of dampening my excitement of starting last and reaching 4th, particularly as it ran dry with about a 1/4 of a lap to go :o  Yes, up until recently I've put in 10% extra on top of the standard quota - I think I'll be reverting back to that strategy from Avus onwards.

It was entirely my fault that I ran the Mazda too many times and so the DQ should be applied. It's ironic really since I really dislike that car and would prefer not to have used it at all   :-\

Hmmmmm, whatever I had planned for this race was scrapped before I even got as far as the pits!!! With no real practice I had intended to use the BMW as the consensus on the forum seemed to indicate that it was the car for this track. I was hoping to tweak a setup during the qualifying period and at least have some fun racing.

I have no idea why the server would not allow me to join with the BMW, I tried almost all of the 2002ti's just in case the server was colour blind. But each time I got the message "car not present on server"??

 So as time was ticking I tried to join with the Datsun and "bingo!!" we were admitted to the game.  Apparently I needed to speak Japanese and not German to race here???

Having done only a few exploratory laps in the BMW, changing to the Datsun was not such a big issue, but the lack of time to sort out a setup and learn how to make it work certainly was.
Practice was spent cobbling a race setup and learning where the limits were............I found a lot of limits!!!

I was getting quicker, but I was struggling with the chicane on the banking and found more ways to get that wrong than I thought possible. When
Quali started with some more laps on race fuel and some tweaking of gear ratios that was to be my eventual undoing. With a few minutes of quali left I dumped a load of fuel and decided to try a couple of banzai laps, with extra care through that chicane. Gobsmacked to get such a fast time and gutted to be 0.7 secs up on the next lap ( and looking to be low 2:05) when I screwed up that ruddy chicane...again.

When the race started I just jumped back to my "race fuel" setup and went to the grid. When the flag dropped I was away and tailing the 4 aliens ahead. I was surprised to find that I was staying with them through the infield and as we swept onto the banking I was even contemplating a slipstream and a pass..............until I selected 5th gear!! I had forgotten that I had tried an extra long ratio and the revs dropped to about 6k!! All I was able to do was sit in the slipstream and chug along.
The next few laps were a case of just tagging along and allowing the fast pack to drag me clear of the cars behind, but the downshift into the chicane was a real problem with those dodgy gear ratios and eventually I cut the corner on the way AND on the way out, only 1 lap later I did it again!! Stop and Go required!!  RED MIST TIME!!!
Blatted into the pitlane ...too fast.....stopped in the wrong place......moved forward missed the correct spot decided to go around again....collecting a speeding penalty on the way out!!
On the next lap I got the chicane wrong again......entered the pitlane slowly........stopped at the right place but forgot to engage the limiter when I left and...another SnG!!!

Sorry guys!  But I just lost the will to live at that point and hit the escape key. I must get my pit etiquette sorted as I am always screwing things up in that area and making a mess of my races.

Big grats to the podium and all the finishers. Upon reflection I like this version of Daytona and enjoyed the few laps of racing that I did manage.