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Title: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 15, 2015, 11:06:09 PM +0000
1965 Mod – 50th Anniversary Cup – Enna Pergusa

Round 4 & we are back in Italy at Enna Pergusa or the Mediterranean Grand Prix. A short fast course where you won’t need the low gears or much brake pedal.

The series is open to anyone who wishes to enter. To keep things simple we will run on one grid – if you turn up late you might be disappointed.

We will use the 60fpsV2newmod (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/60fps/) for the whole of the mini-series.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under INT rules. A maximum of one reset is allowed, followed by a compulsory stop and go in the pits. Reported incidents will be moderated (in accordance with UKGPL rules) there is no “red zone” moderation.

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. You need a working installation of the 65 mod to install the 2.02 Update.

2 servers / 2 grids tonight. Pros can drive anything they like on UKGPL9. Ams should join UKGPL8.
Pro drivers are requested not to use the Lotus, Ferrari, BRM or BT11.
Pro drivers are not prohibited from using the faster cars but they won't score championship points if they do.

Points will be awarded according to the original 1965 system, 9 points for the winner, 6 for second, 4 for third, 3 for fourth, 2 for fifth & 1 for sixth.
The Pros & Ams are being scored separately.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address = TBA
Race date = Sunday 18-01-2015
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Enna (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7533)
Race length = 32 50 laps
Variant = 1965
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = minimum of 30 minutes
Replay = you will get here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season28/Funraces/)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: francesco on January 18, 2015, 08:49:36 AM +0000
This evening seem that the 60fps work again,was right Robert Fleurke suggestion.Reinstalling the file noe is OK,i don't know what happened.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2015, 12:04:32 PM +0000
I do expect a more than full grid for tonight, so it would be nice to have a second server  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: bernie on January 18, 2015, 12:14:12 PM +0000
Which Enna is it ? I appear to have two different Enna tracks installed  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Ronniepeterson on January 18, 2015, 12:35:52 PM +0000
Which Enna is it ? I appear to have two different Enna tracks installed  ::)

There is only one? It should have a track folder name of enna

http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=E&menu=Show_Letters


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Doni Yourth on January 18, 2015, 03:27:18 PM +0000
Thanks for that revised lap count, BNB.  I thought that fully 50 laps would be a bit of a stretch.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: bernie on January 18, 2015, 03:38:09 PM +0000
Which Enna is it ? I appear to have two different Enna tracks installed  ::)

There is only one? It should have a track folder name of enna

http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=E&menu=Show_Letters


Strange ! My GPL track ini shows 2

Autodromo de Pergusa (Enna)

Gran Premio del Mediteranian (Enna)

Checked myGPL/tracks folder and as you say there is only 1 Enna in there , a bit confusing but as long as we are all at the same Enna who gives a sod what its called  ::)

Thanks  :)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on January 18, 2015, 04:18:58 PM +0000
Yay! Thanks to Eurotunnel, I am now back in for both tonight and Tuesday :-)

Need to get some practice in - it sounds like 2 servers again - are we going for separate ones for Pros and Ams (meaning I can take whatever I like)? Firing up the Honda in the meantime...

Arf


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: maddog on January 18, 2015, 06:03:44 PM +0000
 . . .  . . . . .  but that would be telling!  ;) Cookie and Greg currently practicing in Hondamobiles


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2015, 06:48:30 PM +0000
. . .  . . . . .  but that would be telling!  ;) Cookie and Greg currently practicing in Hondamobiles

...doing WR times.... ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2015, 07:23:38 PM +0000
I know Billy wants only one grid, but I do remember the F2 race...

We may split the drivers in those who brake for Zagaria and those who don't  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: maddog on January 18, 2015, 08:10:56 PM +0000
Hmm . . . . doing Wacky Racer times?  I didn't see a Dick Darstardly whilst there, but did notice a Lotus badge painted over with white,  and a patch or two of greenery as it passed by the scenery. :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 18, 2015, 08:46:23 PM +0000
I know Billy wants only one grid, but I do remember the F2 race...

We may split the drivers in those who brake for Zagaria and those who don't  ::)
No problem running 2 grids - as long as we have 2 servers.

Ams should join UKGPL9 - any car you like

Pros should join UKGPL8 - any car you like.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Turkey Machine on January 18, 2015, 08:50:27 PM +0000
@Billy: think we swapped it round for this one (should be a great test of 9), so Pros are on UKGPL9, Ams are on UKGPL8.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 18, 2015, 08:53:48 PM +0000
@Billy: think we swapped it round for this one (should be a great test of 9), so Pros are on UKGPL9, Ams are on UKGPL8.
yes agreed


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2015, 09:57:21 PM +0000
Did lots of laps testing, but in the race 2x engine blown... never before :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: francesco on January 18, 2015, 10:21:01 PM +0000
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Did lots of laps testing, but in the race 2x engine blown... never before
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For me is usual but this time only an incident (2 cars in incident,not seen in time)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Ronniepeterson on January 18, 2015, 10:21:14 PM +0000
Thanks for the racing Doni and the late charging Arf. Not sure what happened to you Clive but if I was in any way at fault, sorry.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Samb on January 18, 2015, 10:25:21 PM +0000
That was simply brilliant. Had a cracking battle all race with Raoni, Dean and Andreas. Unfortunately I ran out of talent late in the race and put a wheel on the grass, pitching me into a spin. Raoni simply had nowhere to go and gave me a whack which pitched me over the barriers, out of the race.

Glad I didn't take you with me Raoni. You made a great comeback drive in those last few laps and were a deserving winner. Congrats to all other finishers.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on January 18, 2015, 10:28:14 PM +0000
Your engine blew? I thought my crash box had hit your crash box, as we went past each other (with radically different lines). I had to swerve to avoid you, and then spent the rest of the race thinking I had knocked out the guy that had helped me so much in the last 2 weeks!!! I definitely contacted with someone (maybe Clive?) going thorugh Zagaria early in the race - apols if that was my fault, not sure...

After Cookie and I had finished duelling, I was surprised to see that I was gradually catching Ronnie and Doni - granted they were both driving BT7s (?) and I had the power of the BRM. Initially the gap was pretty static, but necessity is the mother of invention, and I started trying new lines, which mostly worked in my favour (I came out of Zaragia at about 148mph/237kph) on the last lap.. I am not sure how much they noticed me, they seemed to be having lots of fun on their own.. was glad to make it up to join in and then the power differential worked in my favour to steal P6 right at the end...

Good fun, and my first proper 60fps race. Seems to be a lot easier on the eyes, is that what others find?

Cheers..er, and well done to whoever podiumed..forgot to check..


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: EvilClive on January 18, 2015, 10:28:43 PM +0000
No blame in your dept Ron, but plenty in mine I think.  :(

I failed to see another car coming up fast on my inside..Arf I think?? and I just closed the door on him with the expected result. So I quit.

Apologies to Arf3 hope you were able to continue.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Turkey Machine on January 18, 2015, 10:35:07 PM +0000
I enjoyed the close pack racing for all of 6 laps, then on the 7th lap I spun.

There goes my draft, ah well, pootle round, see what I can do. Then can't avoid the blocked road at Zagwhatzit?! corner and ended up on my roll bar. Reset, go into pit, realise my box is first despite my braking, stop, go, pootle round some more doing 1:15s (only can dream of a 14 when in a draft). Spin at Zagtitsup, land on wheels, let the 4-pack go through, grab flag.

Oh, apologies for the tighter grid tonight, turns out someone forgot to check all was well with the grid before deploying. That'll teach 'im. Still, well done everyone on getting through successfully.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: bernie on January 18, 2015, 10:43:38 PM +0000
I was doing fine , inherited p4 after a slow start and others misfortune , then Maddog Moloney decided his BRM  could drift better with an extra wheel , so he decided to borrow one of mine , by the time I had called in at  the BRM pit to get my wheel back everyone had dissapeared into the sunset . ( must get a faster tyre fitter for next season )  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Iestyn Davies on January 18, 2015, 11:18:05 PM +0000
Axel - Rob had a similar blow when leading the F2s early at Spa.. maybe it's from leading a draft pack and setting such a hot pace in the early laps, as the engine warms up?

Good fun until I lost the draft, after sticking too close to Dean/Andreas as we lapped Fran. They checked up a bit and I got bumped into the barrier. The Cooper loses all momentum at 155mph - unless I geared it too highly? Still, it was nice to see 14.09 on Pribluda ;D. Managed 15.2 on the last lap (with 4 gals left)... so slipstream must be worth about a second here? Or a bit more in the Cooper?

Still, can't complain with 2 points for Cooper at probably the worst track for it. Doni & Ronnie look close at the line!

A shame for Fran to be on our server - looks like he would have had a nice slipstream battle with Billy on the Ams (equal race finishing times/speed)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: BadBlood on January 18, 2015, 11:43:20 PM +0000
First outing for a while. Not very distinguished but good to see Martin on track - oh he's gone, there he is, oh he's gone. Agggghhhh bugger.

Gave up after that. Tired.

Looking forward to getting back to full health and half speed!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: bernie on January 19, 2015, 12:22:01 PM +0000
I think Martin is forever doomed to being a full time part timer  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 19, 2015, 12:28:19 PM +0000
Was shaping up to be an interesting race. Nice battle with Rog for 2nd place for the first few laps. Just got my nose back in front when I accidentally downshifted instead of upshifted & crocked the engine. The stop & go put me about 30 seconds down with no tow & no way back.
Strange beacuse this track probably has the fewest gears changes of any that i can think of.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Walter Conn on January 19, 2015, 01:20:44 PM +0000
Congrats to Bastian and Dave C., and of course it was good to see Badblood and Martin on the grid too.  :)

The race was a lot of fun for me. I started in last place and finished third place, so not bad! I was as high as 2nd place with five laps to go. Dave C. started closing the gap at a fast clip. Then Bastian slows (which I thought) to make the race more interesting. At first it is a good thing because the slipstream was helping me escape Dave C.. However, I missed a downshift into fourth gear and went wide into the guardrail. Dave C. was able to sneak past. I was still in hot pursuit. The car seemed to be a little less predictable after that. I put it in the guardrail two more times, and I was out of contention.

I was able to benefit from others mistakes, and I was able to minimize my own mistakes. I surprised myself considering I had zero practice laps, and I was able to sort out the car in Qually. I should probably give some credit to the Lotus that I was driving.  ;D

Thanks, WC


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: dave curtis on January 19, 2015, 06:27:40 PM +0000
Been here before in other series,  but apparently not in 65s  (I found when looking for a setup for the qually session!)  And none for download at the usual location either!
However,  thanks for the helpful advice in pre-event chat - where it was suggested using a Monza setup & possibly lengthen a gear or two...    I didn't bother with adjusting gears however.

Was fairly happy with start position.   Was expecting to be last by many seconds.
Luckily for me,  I think I did most of my guardrail bumping the 1st few laps;  so had plenty of time to try making up the ground I'd lost.

Luckily, others were having their problems later on too.   I also probably managed to grab a tow for most of the event which must have helped.
Had some good (for me anyway!) running with Rog & towards the end with Walter & Bastian who was just too far ahead.
Prib had showed Bastian about 0.8 miles up the road at one point,  so was somewhat surprised when the 3 of us were on the same stretch of road.

The finishing gap is not really representative of his pace during the rest of the event.


I probably never got that 2nd from last corner right on any lap,   but at least managed to pretty much stay on the track most of the time.
Strangely, it seems that the corners are not quite so tight with the 65 cars :)

Congrats all;   most enjoyable.

Cheers,
Dave.










Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: dave curtis on January 20, 2015, 08:22:51 AM +0000
Another thing...  I forgot to comment on the 60FPS experience.

It had completely slipped from my mind during the race,  so clearly no issues!
(Although was fairly lonely running for much of the event).

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: roguk on January 20, 2015, 09:30:22 AM +0000
Had some good racing with Billy then Walter then Dave c, surprised how good the Fez was here BUT def needed the tow, 60 fps fine but had a few drops in fps i think when drivers left race.
Grats to Bastian on win
Grats to Podium


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: bagrupp on January 20, 2015, 10:15:11 AM +0000
Thx Guys, i had a good start and went away.
Then one spin 4 laps before finish, went into the water to make it a foto finish ;)

Grats to all finishers as well. See ya today in Kyalami


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Doni Yourth on January 20, 2015, 05:58:45 PM +0000
Congrats to Ra, Deaner and Andreas for the podium runs.  Talk about a close finish!  And Greg right in the mix, too.  Well done, gys.

For the most part, my races at Enna usually end with the car in a steaming pile so I was relieved that I managed to bring it home in one piece.

I had a fine old dust-up with Rocket for most of the entire distance.  Our 2-valve Climax engines couldn't quite cut it to keep up with the primo rides but we had our own monster battle.  Ray had the edge by and large as it seemed that I was slightly tall on the gear ratios.  Anytime that I lead, RR could re-pass easily.  The other way around and it was all I could do to just tag along.  Pity that we lost Clive in a collision with Arf or we may have had a fine three-way.  That collision put paid to Clive's ride and Arf fell way back out of contention.

As Ray lead most times past the S/F line, I was able to keep track of Arf via my pitboard.  At one point, I believe that Arf was upwards of 12-13 seconds adrift.  Gradually, that gap came down and some quick arithmetic indicated that he might well catch up Ray and I by the finish.  Indeed, with a handful of laps to go, I noted a small, black dot in my mirrors that got progressively larger.  Soon, the BRM was upon us and broke away.

Ray certainly had the goods on me but a small error swinging wide in the 2nd last corner gave me the chance to spirit up on his right and lead to the line by a mere car's length.  Great finish!  Excellent drive, Ray!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Enna - Jan 18
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on January 23, 2015, 10:53:12 PM +0000
Results table now updated.