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Practice: 19:20 BST
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ (39 laps)
Cars allowed: Escort RS1600 1971 ONLY, Alfa (Any), Porsche 911 2.5ST. Falcon MANN.
Track: Pembrey 1967 Download and install this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_pembrey)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
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Not sure what is wrong...

I d/loaded 67_Pembury and installed just like I always do.

I can see the file folder in the Game Data/Locations directory with windows explorer, it's right there between Pacific Raceways and Mosport!!

But when I boot up PnG there is no entry in the circuit list for Pembury????

It shows up in my 'locations' folder as 67_pembrey at the top of the list of tracks.

Now downloaded and installed Pembury 3 times and I can always see it via explorer in the PNG/Game data/locations  folder as 67_Pembury. But it does not manifest itself when I start the game and look for the circuit??

All suggestions gratefully received  :-\

Depending on what other circuits you have installed, it should be near the top of the list when you select your circuit called 67 pembrey.

Have you tried joining the server? If you can then it is in there somewhere!

I just tried reinstalling the one off the site over whatever i had before, and can join the server fine.
Like Geoff said, can you join the server ?

I have not tried joining the server as yet, I was planning only on doing some offline practice. But obviously, as the circuit does not show up in the list of locations at the start of the game I can't do that. ( every other track from the original game and all the extr d/loads are all there afaiks.
I had assumed that the track will still be absent if I go the "multiplayer" route? I have no reason to doubt that I could join the lobby and any circuit, just as long as it was not Pembury as I could not have selected it.

I'm at work now, so won't be able to try anything until this evening, but like I said.."please keep suggestions coming"

What's in the folder?

A dumb question I know, but presume you did run the installer (.exe file), not just placed it into the locations folder?

You don't need to select the circuit when you join the server, just select the SROUK server from the list in the lobby & join. It will tell you if you don't have the track installed.

Just looked and it shows as "67 Pembrey"  I have seen installers create a "GTR2" directory and install within that
or if I forget to point it at the top level P&G directory it creates directories within directories.
This one works fine if you point it at the top level game directory
I have copied my install into ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com)
if you need to copy it

Mine worked ok.

If you are still having no luck, I believe this is the same track.

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=10419

I confess I am baffled!!

I deleted the existing 67_Pembrey file and re-downloaded from the original source.

Ran the installer, watched all the files get extracted and loaded, 100% complete, "finish". Check with windows explorer and the folder exists in "PnG/Game Data/Locations "   labelled 67_Pembrey. Open folder and there are a list of files as I would expect.
Close explorer and start PnG.

Select car, ...........OK.
 Select circuit..............anything you like but there is no Pembrey??!!

OK, try lobby and server get onto Lobby and server list................."track not installed" message??!!

But there is definitely a track folder in the right place when I examine the PnG directory.

Repeated the process with Geoffers link, with exactly the same results??!!  :-\

I assume that there is not a maximum number of tracks allowed in the "Locations" file. I know this can be a problem in GPL, not sure if it applies in PnG?

Anything in it?

OK !! Yes there are full contents in that folder.

I have solved the conundrum....sorry guys my screw up!! ::)

I recently moved the whole PnG directory to a larger drive as the whole package was growing steadily with extra cars and circuits.  It looks like I dropped clanger when I replaced the shortcut on my desktop.
I pointed at the "PnG.exe" file in the directory, when I should have used the "GTR2.exe" file.

PnG would boot from the wrong exe file, but I only clocked the problem when I realised that I was getting the old clunky looking dashboard and switch to start PnG and 67_Monaco was not showing up on the circuit list either...and I had just run that race with no probs!!

Replaced the PnG.exe with the GTR2 exe within the PnG directory and now it is finding all the circuits and I have just joined the practice server as well.  ;D It has not helped my speed around Pembrey though!!!

Just read the "where's my Pembrey?" post above. Have to admit it is one of the better short novels of suspense I've read in months!

Keep them coming Evil :laugh:

ps. Had to give last week's Monaco fun a miss as we were off to hospital,rather suddenly, to welcome a beautiful granddaughter. After a few days of intensive care all is well now and parents and grandparents are as proud and happy as they can be.

Congrats on becoming a grandfather Dan.  :wheelchair:

Congrats SeniorGranddan

We knew who was guilty all along!

Congratulations on the elevation to grandad status.

Our two offspring show no signs of doing the same for me.  I think we were to soft on them.  As a result, they are aware of what they put us through and don't want to join!   ::)

big congrats Snr Dan.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

With apologies to those who already saw this in GTL.  ::)

This is for Dan, hope he likes my kind of novel. Not exactly suspense, but maybe amusing.

When the call came through to get our butts down to Pembrey for a race, we checked the weather forecast and were amazed to see that we would not require a snorkel for the car or ourselves. Arnold checked the garage and found an old Daimler with a stonking great V8 engine that he wanted to try.

So, we loaded the comfy Daimler armchair onto the Trabant's roof rack and set off down the M4. All went well until we crossed the Severn and came to the toll booths. Everyone looked at everyone else as we queued and realised that we had to pay the toll!!!  Mabel, who was sitting in the front passenger seat announced that she would get us through using her feminine charm...... I had certain reservations and Arnold did not look convinced, but as we had no money, we let her carry on.
In hindsight, I can probably see why the paramedics were called for the poor young guy in the toll booth.

I have grown accustomed to Mabel and her actions over the years, but that poor chap was seeing her for the first ( and he probably hopes, the last time) . As we drew level with the toll booth Mabel threw her 18 stone self across to the drivers window and through bright red puckered lips suggested to the spotty 19 year old that if he was to let us through she would "personally escort him to heaven on a wave of erotic pleasure".
I have never such a look of pure terror or seen blood drain from someone's face as quickly as that in my life, and then he vanished from view as he fell back as if he had been hit about the head with a pick axe handle...twice!.

I guess that Mabel was right in that she did get us through without paying, because the ensuing chaos as security and staff rushed to the aid of the poor lad, and the vehicles behind us attempting to switch lanes to avoid the hold up who collided with other drivers intent on not allowing them to barge into their lane, certainly covered our escape very nicely. No-one noticed a severely overloaded Trabant with a Daimler in tow smoking away from the toll booths in the mayhem.

Arnold nailed the gas and we were up to 40 MPH before we reached Newport. Onwards to Swansea and other Welsh sounding towns before we screeched to a halt at Pembrey race control. Well, we stopped in the Trabant.....the Daimler did not, so we were actually stationary for only 1.5 secs, before being accelerated again through the pit complex and out onto the circuit.

The response from the GT guys who were in a full qualifying session was I thought a little excessive, and it was Mabel who saved the day again when several drivers surrounded a hapless Arnold and threatened to remove certain dangly bits from his person with the aid of the wheel wrenches. Mabel threw herself at the group of drivers like an oversized bowling ball and effectively halved the number of participants in the GT category, but gave the St John's Ambulance volunteers the busiest day of their lives.
 Arnold and Mabel decided that they should keep a low profile from then on and skulked around the back of our garage and out of sight for the rest of the event.

Practice went well and although the Daimler reclining chair was squidgy and top heavy, it did indeed have some serious grunt under the bonnet which could be put to good effect on the long straight. Braking was the achilles heel and just 5 mtrs too late on the anchors would result in some heavy grass cutting or lots of burning rubber....or usually both.

Qualifying started and I was trailing around after a quick Lotus Cortina, more interested to see where he was quicker and  where I might have the advantage. Without realising how quickly I was going, I posted a 1:05 sec lap which was a PB in that big tank and claimed a front row slot.
Ok this was going to be tricky.... because it was obvious that my extra power only worked for me on the straight and we had some twiddly bits to get around first. If I could get into the lead I might be able to "defend"  Roll Eyes my position and preserve my tyres......good plan.

However,  Mabel could not contain her enthusiasm as the start procedure got underway and her 100 decibel scream of   "GOOOOOOOOOOO!" when the countdown still had a second to go scared me so much that my foot slipped off the clutch and the car leapt forward as I fell into the back seat!! 
Jump Start???  it was more like a frightened rabbit escaping!!

So I knew that I would have to do a SnG in pit lane for my transgressions, and by the time I had climbed back into the driving seat we were on the main straight. I can now confirm that it is not possible to enter the pits at Pembrey at speeds in excess of 80mph and retain all 4 wheels on your car!  I offer this valuable info freely and hope that my sacrifice helps others avoid such a situation in future.

The only bright side was that Arnold , Mabel and myself were able to sneak away from the track early and avoid any further awkward confrontations.
As we passed the toll booths again on the M4 ( fortunately there are no tolls to pay travelling East  Wink ) repairs were well under way and many of the accidents caused by cars changing lanes after Mabels antics had been cleared, so that the resulting tailback had shrunk to only 12 miles long.

I am seriously considering leaving Mabel behind at HQ for the next event. 


This essay has spurred me on to create a whole novel around these characters, and is in first draft format ATM. This writing lark is very tricky. I frequently drop my pencil when I have to change gear and steer during races. ::)

Results and Replay Posted

Great fun, almost managed 4th but for putting a wheel on the grass in the last turn and letting
Clive through, then same again later while looking at the timing list, then got wobbly
in T1 in the last couple of laps letting the Evil Clive through as well!
Great racing from where i was sat anyway  8)

p.s I am in Bristol next week and London the week after so will miss all racing  :(
should be ok for admin as usual.

Nothing wrong with Bristol.  ;D  but I might be biased because I live here.  ;)

It was great dice in the closing laps and I decided that you were not going to give up that place voluntarily, so I had to try and press you for a mistake. Not sure if it was my pressure, or just a moments misjudgement, but I did not wait for a second invitation when you ran slightly wide. Eralier I had swapped places a couple of times with Superswift in another long battle. All in all some good racing with several other drivers. Thanks guys.

At the end of the month I am invading the far North, a week just outside of Barnsley promoting business at....now don't laugh!!! ......The British Juggling Convention.  And NO! I cannot juggle!!! but I might be able to after being there for a whole week!

Click HERE (http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/PnG/PembRep/index.html) for Analyser Report 

I made a decent start but Federico made a better one and came past before Hatchets.  Geoffers also outbraked me and set about claiming second spot behind John.

I was busy contemplating how I was going to out brake Federico, as the Escort seemed better in that department, when it dawned on me that actually I was the hunted party as Matt was homing in!

My race pace was not as expected but Matt was flying.

I chased him for most of the race, gradually losing him, when he did the decent thing and binned it in the last corner about four laps from the end.

Even better than that, as I approached the last corner of the race; the smoke, dust, sand and blue air rising from the trees on the outside of the bend suggested that someone was off!  Since I crossed the line in 3rd spot I assume it was Geoffers!  But I may be putting two and two together and coming up with eight.

Grandad dan went off to admire the scenery, and I then spent the next 20 laps or so scrapping with a couple of Escorts - one Swift and one Evil. Then with my rear tyres fading I got a little too sideways and clipped an invisible wall somewhere, breaking the suspension. Bugger.

Great fun up til then however. Apologies to SSwift for the tap early on, but well held..! Congrats podium.

No that was me!  ::) Although not quite as straightforward as just going off.

This race went well for 75% of it, usual mediocre start but reclaimed my 2nd place starting position at T1. Chased John for a few laps & briefly took the lead when he had a quick spin. Didn't last though as John quickly caught up & when I ran a bit wide at the final turn he cruised back into the lead down the S/F straight.

Settled down into a comfortable 2nd place with a gradually increasing gap to Fede in 3rd. Then with 7 laps left I noticed I only had enough fuel for 6 laps  :o. Enter fuel conservation mode. Easy on the throttle & taking corners 1 gear higher went someway to getting enough fuel to finish. Let Fede past when he caught me with 4 laps to go. Eased off even more as Clive was over 10s back & with a lap to go I had 1.1 laps of fuel left (yeh right). Entering the back straight the engine started to cough & by the last turn it had virtually stopped. I tried to keep the speed up through the final turn as Clive was looming in my mirrors but with no power the car just understeered over the bank. Grumph!

Congrats to John, Fede & Clive.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Oh by the way, Clive's results show me 6th, yet on the official results I'm 8th!

depends of course on what order people dropped out, I will have a scan at the replay.

Don't spend a lot of time on it Matt, its no big deal. Just depends on how the SROUK system determines the positions I guess.

Well I used the server download for the report?

Looks like SROUK rules/results are based on your needing to cross the line after the end of the race for you to be counted as a "finisher" as opposed to being classed amongst the DNFs.  The analyser was just looking to see who completed 38 laps first, and that was Geoffers.

For some reason the inporter had lost the total race time for Geoffers, so put him after others who had
retired, but had a race time. I have adjusted the results now. I need to sort the points yet,

Oh the joys of invisible walls...

Clattered one on the inside of T1 and picked up suspension damage - bad.
Left the track on the inside at the fast right-hander in the middle sector, would have spun but bounced off one and returned to the track - good.

Would be nice to see them, all the same.

OK cheers Matt. I didn't have a total race time as I never crossed the finish line, I was the wrong side of the bank with no fuel!

@Evilclive...

Great read ! What a way to start my Friday morning. Thanks.

@Whoevercarestoread

I'd rather not discuss my race, my new Granddad status has certainly slowed down my pace. After a few laps I couldn't help laughing seeing the hopeless lines I was driving which on the bright side shows there can be fun in anything we do.

On to the next event....

Dan

Others who dropped out had final time though, only Geofers didn't for some reason  ???

I remember the glass walls now, the only one I have ever hit is on the outside of Dibeni
You must have been well off the track to find the one in T1  :o
There is a later version of the track, but it doesn't seem as nice so I did the historic one.

Jeeesszzz!! I am racing granddads nowadays?! And still losing! Should look for another hobby i guess.
SeniorDan; congratulations and enjoy your time with the grandkid!

Well the race wasn't that good. I was on a business trip a couple of days and although i was back in time for the race i had no practice at all.
Jumped in the Ford and tried to find some pace during qually. It took me until a couple of laps into the race to find the lines and some pace.
At the start i was happy to chase the pack and was hoping to get involved in some battles here and there. The lack of practice and a bit too extreme of a setup had me spinning and hit a invisible wall. Restarted and continued with a little crooked car. With the race pace so close there was no chance of getting back in the mix,
but had my fun sliding the little Escort around Pembry.

Yeah, got the corner entry all wrong and was all four wheels off track. Didn't think it was that far off, certainly got a surprise though!

@Matt :  Were my brake lights still playing up?

Not that I noticed.