SimRacing.org.uk

UKPnG => UKPnG Races => Topic started by: phspok on March 28, 2015, 04:02:00 PM +0000



Title: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on March 28, 2015, 04:02:00 PM +0000
*** This will be using the Simbin lobby ***
Make sure your LOCAL _IP_LOBBY.TXT file contains gtr2server1.gtr-evolution.com
Some have found that they can get straight in. Others have had to change their username or password or re-register

Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ ( 23 laps)

Cars allowed: Group A= Capri 3100, BMW (any), Porsche RSR3.0   Group B= BMW 12v ONLY, Porsche RSR3.0
Top 3 drivers in the championship standings may drive Group B cars ONLY.
All other drivers are allowed any car from Group A or Group B


Track: Sepang GP  Download and install this (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=3035)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server: simracing.org.uk P10LCC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=468&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v3 from:  http://gtlw-blog.flyingpig.info/
(4) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function.You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when making your pitstop during the race.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect[/quote]
(http://)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 28, 2015, 07:17:33 PM +0000
Well I hope that you have given a grossly unfair advantage to those not in the top three!   ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on March 28, 2015, 09:24:21 PM +0000
Yes, You get to drive your favourite car.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 28, 2015, 09:51:30 PM +0000
LOL

Don't think that I have one any more.  I'm not able to pedal any of them fast enough for my liking!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on March 29, 2015, 01:22:14 PM +0100
Car choice changed due to insufficient car difference after more testing


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 29, 2015, 02:17:22 PM +0100
Jolly good!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on March 29, 2015, 02:53:50 PM +0100
What a difference a day makes. Today I am slower in everything, but only a bit slower in the 12 volt ones
and that gives some parity with the RSR3.0 so should mix things up a bit more.  :)



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on April 02, 2015, 12:29:12 PM +0100
oohhh boy, this is gonna be nice. I like this car set!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: simon loynes on April 03, 2015, 04:40:10 PM +0100
The biggest youngest BMW is best for me 2 18.4 is my opening effort


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: simon loynes on April 05, 2015, 03:15:13 PM +0100
17.6 now praccy race fuel. I keep getting screen black outs though, anyone else suffering the same?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 06, 2015, 08:48:13 AM +0100
Thanks to everyone who has donated towards our quarterly cost's  :thumbup1:

But we still have a deficit of over £40  :(

If you haven't contributed please think about doing so. You know you want to  :angel:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 06, 2015, 06:36:25 PM +0100
When I looked recently, the server was still running Thruxton. 


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: seniordan on April 07, 2015, 09:19:51 PM +0100
Teamies (can't send you email from where I am now) and fellow competitors,

Some may remember from previous years, during spring and summer the mrs. and I enjoy life on the coast.We do have an internet connection there but no sim facilities of course. As a consequence I will be around less frequent than I am used to. But fortunately I'll be at the house regularly and seize the opportunity to grab the wheel for some good fun with you guys.
As said ,we are connected to the worldwide web so I'll check in regularly to see what's up.
Enjoy racing all and "see you when I see you" (suppose we all recognize the quote from.....?)

Cheers, Dan



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Geoffers on April 07, 2015, 09:27:03 PM +0100
Enjoy your summer Dan, can't wait until I retire. I'll come & spend summer on the coast with you, lol.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 07, 2015, 10:34:33 PM +0100
Come back fully rested Dan.

Have a good time too.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 09, 2015, 07:37:57 PM +0100
Matt must have been going well in practice.  This is going to be over a fifty minute race for me!  :-[


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on April 09, 2015, 09:58:47 PM +0100
Results and Replay Posted
Matt Was having a much easier time in testing  :taz:
I couldn't get the thing to stop or turn in, My Southport setup was
not perfect, but I could do better than I was doing.
Was dropping back from Postie and hted the car, so left.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 09, 2015, 11:21:48 PM +0100
Click HERE (http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/PnG/SepRep/index.html) for Analyser Report  

My word but that was a long one!

I spent all of the practice time off-line trying to figure just how to get to the end of the race with any rubber left!  I came to the conclusion that I needed hard tyres on the front of the BMW to stand any chance.  Then the challenge was to have steering as well.  I still hadn't finished the process when it was time to enter the server, so after posting a reasonable time, on soft boots, early on, I went back to progressively stiffening the back and softening the front.  Qually ended and I still hadn't finished tweaking so I gave it a few more clicks of everything and headed for the grid.

As it turned out, it wasn't too bad.  But the track is awful!   ::)  

I didn't make a great start.  In fact, since Geoffers passed me, it must have been diabolical!  BMW power helped me to repass him and thus we stayed until I was within spitting distance of a surprise second place.  

I think that, at any time, if I can get to half distance with Geoffers behind me and still be able to see John's tyre smoke, then I'm having a good race.  ;D

I thought that Geoffers best chance would be for me to forget which of the nondescript corners was coming next, but as it happens Geoffers had other ideas.  With about a lap and a half to go I was convinced that Geoffers was about to ram me.  He didn't!  He took avoiding action but I was so busy looking to see what he was going to do next that I went too deep into the slow hairpin and he passed me with ease.  Oh bother I said!!!!

He was quicker through the corners and I didn't have enough straights left, before the end of the race, to mount a challenge.

WD Geoffers, good drive.

And congratulations to John too.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on April 10, 2015, 08:26:44 AM +0100
Well, that turned out to be a bit of a lonely race for me. Had done faster laptimes in practice offline, but could not get the times during qually or race sadly. I tried both the IMSA CSL as the Schnitzer powerhouse and altough the IMSA was a nicer drive i reckoned i needed the extra horses too keep up...

Was sleeping at the line and lost some meters on the pack and slid a bit off track in the opening laps trying too hard on cold tires. Tried to claw back some time but wasn't gaining on EvilClive and just as i decided to back off a bit to have a bit of a battle with Matt, he quit the race. So on to the finish line. I was enjoying the car more and more so had a nice drive after all.
Bring on the next one! Cheers


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on April 10, 2015, 08:49:20 AM +0100
Sorry Postal, I was getting frustrated with the car. In testing this seemed a brilliant combo
in practice it appears to have been unpopular. Only 6 runners  ???
Was it something I said?  ::) Would be interesting to know if people (who didn't turn up)
weren't there because they had other engagements or just didn't like the look of it?
I try to put on events that people want, but it helps if I know what people do want.
I have a few comments of old, so I have some idea, but every little helps  :angel:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on April 10, 2015, 09:54:35 AM +0100
Yeah, i could understand why you quit Matt. Should have backed off earlier on my part, would have made for a more interresting race for us both.
Don't know why the turn out is lower this time. Last time we ran these cars there was a bigger grid and some nice battles during the race. So i don't think they didn't like the look of it, maybe it was because the sun is comming out again?...
I will gladly be racing anything you through at us! Especially these 70's cars!!

Having said that. Looks like newer sims are having the same thing with grid seizes? Like Game Stock Car Extreme looks nice but not the next thing in simracing, altough it has real racing classes with historic content it does not attracks big crowds? AC looks to be the next in simracing but has higher demands on hardware, is harder to get some even race classes together and lacks historic content for the time being. (DTM race looked great though! :thumbup1:)

I bet it has more to do with finding the spare time for this hobby for most people. As for me i am glad i can find the time to run GTL and PnG every week and if i am lucky i can do some pre-race practice.
I quess you are still on the right track (Look at GTL; grid numbers are getting higher again around here), but maybe other people can give you some feedback too.
Cheers


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: frex on April 10, 2015, 10:13:22 AM +0100
Would be interesting to know if people (who didn't turn up)
weren't there because they had other engagements or just didn't like the look of it?

For me it's simply the case that I am doing more racing in AC and pCARS now, and less in PnG. Still enjoy PnG though and not given up on it completely, but my already limited time for practise has therefore been cut even further - any PnG races I do now has to be with a car/track combo that I enjoy and know reasonably well, so that I can just turn up and race on the night. That wouldn't apply here, and I would only have been a liability in these cars with no practice beforehand. I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the combo itself though Matt.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Legzy on April 10, 2015, 11:05:22 AM +0100
Would be interesting to know if people (who didn't turn up)
weren't there because they had other engagements or just didn't like the look of it?
I wasn't there as had family round & they left @8:50pm! :wetfish: >:(
That said, I would like to see more use of the older cars that don't seem to get much of a look in since we got PnG3 . I really have little interest in the regular BMW vs Pork, but I suspect I am the minority there though.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Hotkeys on April 10, 2015, 11:18:44 AM +0100
Sorry Postal, I was getting frustrated with the car. In testing this seemed a brilliant combo
in practice it appears to have been unpopular. Only 6 runners  ???
Was it something I said?  ::) Would be interesting to know if people (who didn't turn up)
weren't there because they had other engagements or just didn't like the look of it?
I try to put on events that people want, but it helps if I know what people do want.
I have a few comments of old, so I have some idea, but every little helps  :angel:


I had no time to practice for this race. I turned up all the same, because I thought I knew Sepang ......... I didn't and old Hotkeys racing on an unknown track in a power-car is not a healthy idea :- ))

I for one hope this isn't the beginning of the end for P&G races, so I plan to turn up as often as possible.

BUT ..... just like Legzy, I miss racing the older cars like the Cortina and the Lotus Elite or the Jaguar saloon cars.


Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: EvilClive on April 10, 2015, 01:01:12 PM +0100
I don't feel like I have been around PnG long enough to offer any great insights or opinions.

But, I do tend to agree with some of the comments about the "older" cars, although that might well be due to my advanced years and the rosy glow of my childhood memories.

I did a few laps with Clive L on the server on Wed evening and struggled to make the front end respond, especially on hard tyres. I resisted the temptation to go for soft tyres as I doubted they would last the race and opted for mediums.
At the start I kept the leading trio within 3 secs for a good few laps then somehow I forgot how to drive the BMW  :-\ and dropped back until my memory reloaded towards the end of the race and I started to close again. I occasionally caught glimpses of Clive and Geoffers, but it became a progressively more lonely race.
In hindsight, and looking at the lack of any real wear on the mediums, I could probably have done the race on softs all round and that might have kept me in touch with Geoffers and Clive....but I doubt it!!!

Grats to the podium and to John's dominant win, CYA next time.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 10, 2015, 06:09:15 PM +0100
Simon was having a punch-up with the grid marshal, who wouldn't let him back onto the grid after Simon had rejected the last offering on engine health that his pit crew could come up with.   ::)

@ Evil I had soft on the rear and hard on the front.  Don't think that I would have reached halfway in Matt's Marathon with soft on the front.

I try to support these races and turn up whatever awful track and car combinations you can come up with.

A season of Minis might give me a problem!  Did that with MARA and don't really want a repeat!   ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Geoffers on April 10, 2015, 11:04:00 PM +0100
I thought that Geoffers best chance would be for me to forget which of the nondescript corners was coming next, but as it happens Geoffers had other ideas.  With about a lap and a half to go I was convinced that Geoffers was about to ram me.  He didn't!  He took avoiding action but I was so busy looking to see what he was going to do next that I went too deep into the slow hairpin and he passed me with ease.  Oh bother I said!!!!

Don't know what gave you the idea I was going to ram you Clive! I must admit I did get rather close on one or two occasions when the lack of corner speed of the BMW nearly caught me out. Did give you one bump when I got alongside approaching the triple apex RHer, sorry about that. Anyway, I had pretty much given up hope of finding a way past when you messed up the hairpin. Was great fun though, really enjoyed the race. I even like the track, one of the better modern ones in my opinion.

You can count on me being there for all the races Matt, unless I'm away on holiday. Not sure what the answer is to the low attendances, seems that all the sims are suffering the same at the moment (except Tony's GTL series).

Personally I would like to see a few more different cars used, we always seem to be racing Porkas, Alfas, BMWs & Escorts. How about some Mk2 Jags or Elites or Lotus 7s or Minis or GT40s. We raced the 3.4 Jag at Goodwood over at GC a few weeks ago, a car that rarely gets used, & it produced some brilliantly close racing. I wouldn't worry too much about matching the laptimes of the cars, just pick a selection that seem about equal & go with it. Clive will soon sort out which is fastest, lol!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 11, 2015, 08:10:11 AM +0100

Don't know what gave you the idea I was going to ram you Clive!


You loomed!   ;D


................. Clive will soon sort out which is fastest, lol!

That'll be the day!   ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: simon loynes on April 11, 2015, 01:02:22 PM +0100
On-line car was nothing like the off-line version hence I had to start growing a set-up during Qually

Turns out is was all a pointless exercise because whilst I was trying to get the game to give me an engine at least in the 70% region the race started without me.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on April 11, 2015, 08:16:29 PM +0100
Fair enough, Thanks for the comments guys.
I have a BHC coming up with some period cars, but am struggling to find a good close match
at the moment.
Food for thought. Ta.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: simon loynes on April 13, 2015, 12:45:45 PM +0100
Don't suppose a few single make races could be done?  I fancy all mk2 jags or all Lotus 7s. Lotus 7s at Cadwell would be a laugh


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 13, 2015, 01:02:52 PM +0100
In GTL Lotus Elite's -v- MkII Jags have been a good match.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge - Sepang - Apr 9
Post by: phspok on April 13, 2015, 01:16:32 PM +0100
I have the perfect Jag Sofa event thanks to Tony.
I am still recovering from the abuse when I ran a Lotus 7 event at Monaco :2guns:
but I might slip something in somewhere. Elites and L7s are quite close. If one
is slightly faster then it could be an LCC event.

One reason I have traditionally avoided the "classic" cars , is because
"That's what Tony does in GTL", but actually that isn't what Tony does these days
so I would not be treading on any toes. :angel: