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Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ ( 36 laps)

Cars allowed: Group A= Jaguar MkII Saloon (ANY) Group B= Jaguar MkII Saloon 3.8 or 3.4
Top 3 drivers in the championship standings may drive Group B cars ONLY.
All other drivers are allowed any car from Group A or Group B

Track: Darley Moor Download and install this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_darleymoor)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=468&theme=34)

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I think that the Jag's tyres are harder than the tarmac!

LOL, you could be right, but the engines, certainly the 4.2 ones are quite delicate, and will lose health quickly if over revved
this one will bite the top 3 more than usual I think, as the 4.2 has a clear advantage on the straights.
It is possible to do the chicanes flat out while still keeping a wheel on the track, but please don't take the extract the urine and just
drive as if they weren't there. I picked these cars because they can "just" do it flat, anything faster would be a an invite
to the kerb police  ::)

Glad to hear that the 4.2 also has a glass engine!

The tyres take an age to reach what might be called grippy, from an ice skater's point of view, and they certainly won't be at that stage when we get to Park Corner for the first time.  It took me four Jags to get past Park.  Two of them were burried in the wall and the other was a ball of fire after I tried to get more engine braking than I was entitled to!  I ended up with engine breaking instead.   ::)

oooh look!!! I'm 4th in the table ( have no idea how I am at such altitude!! ) and I can choose either car. Which probably means that I will deconstruct the engine of whichever car I opt for at the first corner  :-\

Just done a few laps and any concept of "grip" seems alien to these barges, certainly for the first 3 laps!!

I've managed to get the 4.2 whale round in 1:7.775. Bit of a struggle though as the car won't stop won't steer and won't accelerate  :scooter:

You forgot the bit about turning into a bonfire if you don't change gear with the touch of a midwife!

I like the track, it's a bigger challenge than I thought at first. For me it's hard to find the right race line especially in the tight corners. I managed a 1.07.500, but surely one of the ace drivers could do a 1.05 :-))

Stig

I managed a 1:09.0 in my brief testing in the 4.2, and 1:10.8 in the 3.8
I only did a couple of laps in each to get a feel for them so even I may
go a bit faster.

Hi guys.  :punk:
Do you still remember me? Being away from SIM racing for almost 5 years, I believe.
How are you all?

If I manage to attend this race, am I welcome? P&G version is the 3.0 or the V3.1?

I miss so much online racing with fair drivers.  :yes:  See you soon.

Cheers  ;)

Whooohoo
A voice from the past! Of course you are welcome PR, we run with 3.1 these days.
Would be great to have you with us again  8)

Hi Pribeiro, long time matey. You would definately be welcome in GTL land too. We might have a space on the grid for you (near the back)  ;)

BTW do you know a fellow Portuguese driver by the name of Portoflash? He runs with us.

Nice to have back Pribeiro  ;D

I remember you vaguely, but I believe you left the community shortly after I joined.

Stig

Welcome back Pribeiro.

It's a challenge to get the car out of the pits on this one without damage to the engine.  I set off down the pits at a reasonable lick and then remember, too late, that the brakes don't work for the first lap and have to change down to make the pit exit, which the engine doesn't like one bit!

Saw a motoring show on TV last week which featured the Mark 2 Jag. Apparently in the late 50's, early sixties it was the car of choice for bad boys cos it outran anything the rozzers had and it had loads of room for swag. Didn't mention them blowing up tho.

Welcome back PR, look forward to seeing you on the grid on Thursday.  :thumbup1:

Welcome back PR! 8)

Matt, due to the above, no more BMW races! ;)

Hehe, ah yes, I remember PR was a bit good with the Schnizer  ;D

Those were good times.  :D

Thank you all for your kind welcome words.
Unfortunately, I have been with issues updating to P&G V3.1.
As you can see here just for curiosity: http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321615&page=3, if no miracle happen, I will not race with you guys.  :-\

Cheers

Oh dear, not good.
I "think" when i did my 3.0 I copied my GTR2 directory and installed 3.0 on to that. Not sure if 3.1 will go directly
onto a GTR2 clean install, or whether it needs a 3.0 to update?

Oh dear!  That is a lot of grief.   :(

Now the news about my P&G V3.1. It's working!

I have installed a new clean GTR2 inside my other disck (D: ), but working at my C: desktop shortcut. Anyway, installed V3.0 and all went fine, then installed V3.1 and no popups error windows this time.
With all my fingers crossed, tested with a few cars (OMG that Zakspeed Escort) without any issues.
Just one thing, when I click on the shortcut of P&G3.1 the 'Updater' doesn't show (installed at D: disck but running at C: disk), but the game runs well with my new profile.

So, if I have time to set up game configs, might have time to join you guys.  :yes:
Btw, where is the server's P/W?  :wetfish:

Umm, good point where are the passwords? #event_password doesn't seem to be pointing at anything anymore
Not that I know where it was supposed to point at  ???

Event password now showing

I was actually relieved to crash out of that one. Didn't enjoy it at all, sorry Matt, that track is awful.

Congrats to the podium, cya next week.

My replay won't run so I can't find out who punted me off in the chicane just before the start/finish.

I endured the longest pit stop in living memory as I thought that there could be a few retirements.

Results and Replay Posted
Well I enjoyed, though I guess it wasn't everyone's cup of tea.

I think it was a great car/track choice Matt.
A narrow track with slow cars is bound to create close racing, and that's what it's all about IMHO. If the grid had been twice as big, it would have been even more fun. Also in this race, the handicap system worked very well. It's fun for the slower racers like me to have a chance to keep up with the aces :-))

Stig

Thanks Stig. It actually was Tony's suggestion, and I think it was a good one, perhaps with Tinas and Minis
but I liked the big Jags here.  :thumbup1:

Me too, quite enjoyed that. Good racing with Clive although he was clearly quicker. After getting close many times and then getting alongside approaching one of the chicanes, I decided discretion was appropriate and eased off to let him by. Then we passed Geoff in the hedge shortly after so I regained the place back again. However, why is Clive listed after me in the results when I followed him home across the finish line? Mistake there I suspect..

Congrats podium.

I was solidly last, having spent two laps in the pits whilst they rebuilt the car.

You looked lonely so I thought that I should liven up your race.  ;-)

After a few years away from online racing I honestly was a bit nervous.
Telling to myself, not ruinning anyones race.
My pole was a real luck, one of those laps in a thousand that everything went well.
At the start, wheels span more than desired but all ran fine.
Next lap with so many hungry wolfs behind and my eyes on the mirror,
made a few mistakes, from 1st to 5th, then 3rd and finaly 6th.
Somewhere at the middle of the race braking on the left that goes to an almost 180º bend,
found Symon drifting on brakes left to right and left and I hit him when he full stop in the  middle
of the bend. I'm sorry if I caused any damage, on full brakes couldn't avoid you.
ON replay I notest your engine smoking before your full stop tho. What happened?

After I had a nice tossle with Matt, right behind him but with no changes to try an overtaking move,
nice pace Matt. So while chasing Matt's 2nd place and with only 6 laps to go, booooom,
I hit the pit exit wall ruinning my engine.  ;D

Liked the track/car combo, nice challenge.

Thanks all for letting me join this race. Looking for next oportunitys.  ;)

Congrats john and well done podium.

Cheers

Ah I see. So we weren't fighting for position then - if I had realised that I would have let you by much sooner, although yes it certainly did liven up my race, thanks for that  :)

Click HERE (http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/PnG/DarRep/index.html) for Analyser Report.

I didn’t think I would, but personally I really enjoyed it. The Jag MK2 is a bit of a barge but was a good match & the it was a classic example of: the less enjoyable a track is to practice/hotlap, the better it is for racing.

I qualified higher than normal for me in 5th, but then was caught sleeping on the start line & lost 3 places in the blink of an eye. Making some good key corner exits made it possible to get past other on the straights, something that against some drivers was made easier by having the faster car available :D

Enjoyed trying to pass speedy John, one time I felt I’d been to aggressive through one of the chicanes so eased off to let him back past. My reward for which was to be bumped a few times round the next lap by Simon, but was lucky no harm done. Eventually got myself up to 2nd & chasing down Matt who was in clear 1st. Took a couple of laps & then enjoyed that little exchange, especially going through the 2nd chicane using the view through your windscreen to judge the road position :D Exciting stuff, until I clipped you going round the 3rd gear left just before the 360 right turn. Obviously I waited (as it’s the right thing to do & it’s what we do here) but while you recovered Jon was able to catch & pass us both & gain a healthy lead. So once again, sorry I robbed you Matt of what would have been 2nd place to me not John ;)

I don’t think I’ve ever won a PnG race & following that, my focus disappeared & I went on to make a handful of mistakes all on my own over a couple of laps, & quit in disappointment with myself  :'(

I can't quite believe my luck on that one! Certainly wasn't expecting a win, but I'll take it ;D

A good start, avoiding trouble and not making mistakes on the first few laps got me into a surprising first place, with Matt close behind. The pressure showed though, and I put a wheel on the grass on the run up to the hairpin. Spun and just about made it back on in front of Legzy and he was all over me for the next few laps. I tried to make his life difficult but it was only a matter of time before he got past and started chasing Matt. Good stuff while it lasted though :thumbup1:

Managed to stay in touch and closed up when they started battling. I was hoping to profit from any mistakes, and for once it actually happened (about 1550 on my replay is a good bit to watch :D). I sailed through the pair of them and off into the distance :)

Was a good race, I think 2nd or 3rd is where i would have finished without the assistance of Legzy
As he and John were both slightly faster over a lap in the later stages, would have been fun to see how John managed
with two 4.2s to pass, but it wasn't to be. Lots of people were all over the road in that left right hairpin section
so was not unexpected that there would be some contact during the race.
Chris is right I believe, some places are not great for hot lapping but make for a good race, and this was one of
them IMHO  8)

Utterly mystified by that   ??? . Practice went OK and so did qually although I was half a second down on my PB. In the race however it felt like my brake lines had beeen cut and I couldn't slow down for the hairpin even when braking well before "my" dirty marks in the road.

Every time I made progress, even into the lead on lap 1, I ran wide at the hairpin and undid all my good work. The vaugaries of online competition I guess.

In the end I was so distacted by trying not to hit anybody with my brakeless old heap that I changed down a bit early and BANG! no more engine. I didn't realise it had blown up until it started to rotate gently so applogies to whoever hit me before I managed to press the escape button.

Probably my worst PnG experience so far  :hang:

Like Simon I just could not get anywhere near my PB in offline praccy during qualifying. The race was even worse!! and the harder I tried, the slower I lapped... a lesson there somewhere I think?  ::)

Places in the front half of the fiel seemed to cahnge every few laps as various cars came to grief at the hairpin, usually in pairs. the problem was that laughing at them trying to rescue their beached whales usually meant that I made the same mistake on the next lap!! thus losing all that I had gained.  :-\

Not sure what my problem was, but I was 1.5 secs down on what I expected for almost every lap. Simon's loss of brakes was mirrored in my car and any attempt to go deeper into the corners ended in grief and grass.Then the problem was persuading the ruddy barge to actually turn in and stay on the grey stuff.

Despite all of this it was an entertaining race with lots of positional changes and faster drivers recovering. It was so unpredicatable that i was half hoping to find 3 cars stranded at the hairpin on the last lap so that I could steal the podium place.

Grats to John on working that weedy little 3.8 to the flag and to all the finishers.

P.S. I have a collection of Jag wing mirrors, door handles and chrome bumpers for sale. All just slightly blemished, ideal for enthusiast.  ;D

Ahh good, my rear bumper came off when I backed into the fance after a missunderstanding
you can ship it back when it suits...

I can report that my car was just as bad on race day as it had been on any other outing!

Considering what a big part Jaguar's use of the disc brake had in their battles with Ferrari at Le Mans, I find it strange that PnG should decide that the car has no brakes!

My replay has now decided to work and so I can report that it was Stig who propelled me into the tyre wall but since he went on to score good points for SBRC I guess that all is forgiven.  ;D

Also enjoyed John's "pass" between the two spinning 4.2 cars of Legzy and Matt.  Legzy could well have sustained some damage on the front left corner as John passed, which may account for the struggle that he seemed to have afterwards.

Congrats to John, Matt and Stig.

Eeek!!! Just realised I am now 3rd in the table and will have my fetlocks tethered for the next race.

You guys are just gonna have to up your game, so that I don't drift into this dangerous altitude again  :nono:

Excuse me but I managed to work problems to participate.

Hello to the next. >:(

My apologies Clive, I had a look a the replay, and unfortunately your absolutely right.   :hang:

I'm very sorry to have ruined your race. The problem was that I never realized that I had hit you. I thought the bump came from passing the curb of the chicane.
If I had known what happened, I would of course have waited for you.

Very decent of you to forgive me Clive, but I have reported the incident recommending a disqualification. IMO No one should stay on the podium after having sent another racer off like that.

Stig

A real gentleman. This is SROUK spirit. :yes:
Hats off.

Daft bugger, what you want to go and put a report in for!   ;D

Our mods will probably decide it was my fault!! Although if that is the case, then I certainly served out my sentence waiting for my pit crew to fix it!  I think Evil's lot must have been moonlighting!

I understand that Mabel and Arnold have started a temp agency for pit crews......"Pits R us" or was it "We R Pits" .

They claim that they only employ the best dregs of the motor racing community and all staff are given in house training on spanner manipulation and nose wiping, alongside their fundamental rights to extended tea breaks and health and safety guidelines on not lifting anything heavier than a bacon sandwich.

If you were fortunate enough to have some of their crew attending to your car I think you should consider yourself fortunate. Fortunate that not only does your car still work! but you actually managed to rejoin the race........absolutely amazing all things considered.  ::)

True enough!

And I think that I saw at least two tea breaks during that stop.