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Title: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 06, 2015, 10:49:19 PM +0100
Season 28 Works Trophy - Round 5 – Brno 1965

For this round the Works & Privateers part company. The Works visit the Czech Republic. The Masaryk circuit at Brno was originally founded as a race circuit in 1930, the original course running counter-clockwise for some 29.1Km (18 miles) through 9 towns/villages. The layout changed direction & was progressively shortened over the years. The ’65 version still has 50 turns & will be something of a handful in the 1967 cars. Good luck.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP = 37.157.48.87
Race date = Sunday 10-05-2015
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = brno65  (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Tracks/Brno/)
Race length = 11 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model =  Pro
Qualifying time = 30 minutes

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season28/Grads_Privs/)

Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=474&theme=6)

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated. For this event the red zone will be from the start to Troubsko on the first lap . Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers may be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely

The chassis token system is explained on the Works (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=474&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Robert Fleurke on May 07, 2015, 10:29:07 PM +0100
We race Brno 1965 (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Tracks/Brno/Brno65_gpl.zip) rather than the more familiar Brno 1949 here at UKGPL. Difference is Sector 2 is cut short, and at the 1965 version there are brake markers at the side of the track.

Without the very challenging Sector 2 of the 1949 version, plus the added brakemarkers, this is a safer version IMO, but of course there are still many places to wreck. ;)

One of the best tracks in GPL IMO! :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Gismo on May 08, 2015, 09:28:39 AM +0100
Never raced Brno 1965 (or 1949) before and was not especially looking forward to learning a new long track, but has to agree, this is one of the most fun tracks I've tried :-)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Rainier on May 08, 2015, 11:26:42 AM +0100
It's a pity Privateers racers will be deprived of such a track.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 08, 2015, 05:06:44 PM +0100
It's a pity Privateers racers will be deprived of such a track.


Its a pity Works are being deprived of Carthage 35  :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 08, 2015, 09:57:40 PM +0100
I suspect most Privateer drivers will be happier with Carthage.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Rainier on May 09, 2015, 02:00:15 PM +0100
I suspect most Privateer drivers will be happier with Carthage.

Of course, Carthage is way easier than Brno. So it seems logic to use it for Privateers. I have no problem with that.

But Carthage is a non selective track, like Monza or Hockenheim, you just need a great engine and a heavy right foot  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Iestyn Davies on May 09, 2015, 06:53:05 PM +0100
Carthage 35 might be brutal for engines ;D.

That said, I've blown up on the second gear change of a Brno65 start before and quickly parked it in the pit lane exit :laugh:!

Very lucky to escape a potential huge pile-up there :angel:.. Cue Formula E at Monaco :P - Nico Prost just can't catch a break..


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: EvilClive on May 10, 2015, 05:10:42 PM +0100
It's a pity Privateers racers will be deprived of such a track.


Its a pity Works are being deprived of Carthage 35  :'(

Don't worry Ron, I'm sure works can create our own crashfest within the first 3 turns..( maybe 4), just like most races at Carthage. So you won't miss out on any of the fun by racing at Brno 65    ::);D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 10, 2015, 05:43:19 PM +0100
It's a pity Privateers racers will be deprived of such a track.


Its a pity Works are being deprived of Carthage 35  :'(

Don't worry Ron, I'm sure works can create our own crashfest within the first 3 turns..( maybe 4), just like most races at Carthage. So you won't miss out on any of the fun by racing at Brno 65    ::);D

 :laugh: Yeah I suspect a few might not make it out of town into the countryside  :laugh: Lets hope we are both wrong.

I think the Brno 65 track is great to drive. But for racing, notwithstanding that narrow start, give me Carthage anytime. Its a bit like the decision to run Schottenring for the Works series later on and the Privateers get the best racing track in the whole of GPL in my opinion, Monza10K. While I support the need for testing tracks for the Works series, I also think tracks that lend themselves to good racing without having to worry about the scenery all the time, should not be ignored. Maybe something to discuss in the mid season review. Good luck everyone tonight, wherever you are racing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Robert Fleurke on May 10, 2015, 06:40:28 PM +0100
I think the Brno 65 track is great to drive. But for racing, notwithstanding that narrow start, give me Carthage anytime. Its a bit like the decision to run Schottenring for the Works series later on and the Privateers get the best racing track in the whole of GPL in my opinion, Monza10K. While I support the need for testing tracks for the Works series, I also think tracks that lend themselves to good racing without having to worry about the scenery all the time, should not be ignored. Maybe something to discuss in the mid season review. Good luck everyone tonight, wherever you are racing.

We have tried to make a good mix of the calender. Works always has a more challenging calender than Privateers. With Stardust, Albi, Silverstone and Willow Springs among another tracks, many "easy" tracks for close racing.

Monza10k is known for it's screenfreeze issue's (for example had them in the 3 races I recall there), so we have put Tripoli 1937 on the calender for Privateers. Another fast track you might like ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 10, 2015, 08:27:46 PM +0100
Monza10k is known for it's screenfreeze issue's (for example had them in the 3 races I recall there), so we have put Tripoli 1937 on the calender for Privateers. Another fast track you might like ;)

Just had a screen freeze at Brno65 on the practice server  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Robert Fleurke on May 10, 2015, 08:49:36 PM +0100
Monza10k is known for it's screenfreeze issue's (for example had them in the 3 races I recall there), so we have put Tripoli 1937 on the calender for Privateers. Another fast track you might like ;)

Just had a screen freeze at Brno65 on the practice server  ;)

Sometimes it happens at random at any track it seems, but the banking section of Monza10k is known to cause screenfreezes.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: dave curtis on May 10, 2015, 08:52:12 PM +0100
I get brainfreeze on various tracks.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Samb on May 10, 2015, 09:57:22 PM +0100
Screen freeze  :'(. Shame, was really enjoying the race up until that point. Hopefully no one else suffers the same fate.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Turkey Machine on May 10, 2015, 10:11:07 PM +0100
Getting no practice in and only knowing the basics of this circuit, I was always going to make it tough, and I made it about 2/3rds round the first lap.

On the plus side, Logitech Profiler now actually works! :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: GregT on May 11, 2015, 01:30:24 AM +0100
Congrats Iestyn, Peter, and all finishers! Very good lap times by Iestyn, Peter, and Rob before it was over.

My first 3.0L win on Sunday! I've had a few chances, but I got lucky today that none of the fastest drivers chose a fast car. It made it much easier than I was expecting. It's pleasing to get the win.

I may have opted for a Honda or BRM had I known there would be so few Lotuses, Eagles, and Ferraris. I may have been able to challenge for the podium in either. I needed the experience with the Lotus though and planned from the beginning to drive it or the Honda.

I would have liked a better qualifying run. I went out with 4 laps of fuel. I wanted to get some good heat in the tires. My first timed lap I caught Ray at the end of S1 and as soon as I got into the slipstream the DFV went up in a huge fireball. :( It made me laugh thinking Ray's engine woes are contagious? Well that screwed up my plan so it was back to the pits to load two laps of fuel. Luckily I didn't need the 4:19 I thought I might.


My race was almost uneventful. I got a decent start and I was glad Peter put Iestyn a little further behind me for the start. Iestyn may have passed me had he started 2nd. My vastly superior car made it easy to baby the car and engine after several turns. After a couple laps I just tried to hit the same marks every lap. On lap 5 I made a mistake that could have been devastating. I barely dropped the LR wheel off the track exiting the 2nd turn of S3. I lightly clipped the brick pylon and was thrown into a spin. I came to rest at the top of the hill on the banking on the right. I didn't know at the time if you go past the first group of spectators you will be behind an invisible wall. After my experience at Albi, I only bumped it once and quickly reversed this time. My track reentry was shabby. Iestyn was closer than I realized. I'm glad I didn't cause either of us any trouble. I wasn't sure if the car was damaged but it seemed to lose some grip from the rear wheels. Within several turns I had adjusted. Once I had the car under control again it didn't take me long to catch Iestyn. He looked good in that BRM. First chance I had to get a tow I passed. That was some nice driving trying to keep up with me after the pass Iestyn. It looks my advantage from more practice may be disappearing. :) After the one mistake I didn't really miss another mark and rapidly cruised to the victory.

Great battle between Rob and Donnie. Once Rob was able to take the position and make it into sector 3 with the lead Donnie's DFV no longer had enough muscle to make up the difference. Nice recovery Rob to place 4th after a lackluster qualifying and having to work your way through traffic.

Thanks guys. I hope to see on track again soon.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Gismo on May 11, 2015, 11:26:04 AM +0100
Congrats to you Greg, superior win! - Iestyn fast as always, what a start you made :-O

My qual went exactly to plan, 4L fuel, first get in a banker, did with a 4m27.2, then try to push for a good one, did with a 4m24.5 (never gotten below 4m26 in offline practise!) - thx to both P. Thornton and S. Blood for giving room when I met them during my first 2 runs.. From then on I did a little race-fuel practise..

Iestyn flew by me at the start and him and Greg took off down the straight - on L1 I had a major moment when I got my RL on the grass right before the semi-fast right-left with a dive onto the little straight before the slow left-right in S2 (if this makes any sense) - due to pure luck i skidded off the trees through the dive and ended up sliding right on to the tarmac in balance to get on the gas and continue as if nothing had happened :-O
Over the next couple of laps I got a 2-3 second gap down to S. Blood who was followed closely by R. Peterson in the Ferrari, but when Ronnie made a mistake and left Blood off the pressure, Blood started to gain on me and we were looking to have a go at it, but then it looks like he disco'ed :-/ Soon after Ronnie's engine apparently blew up and suddenly I found myself isolated..
During this, When Greg went off and I caugt up a bit I actually thought I had catched backmarkers, but then I realised that these backmarkers were going faster than me and when I crossed the line it dawned on me, but after trying to push a little diving in to the 26's and not gaining I decided to back off and just focus on getting a solid 3rd place, Rob was gaining from behind but with his time lost in traffic the gap was plenty..

Great fun this track, luring you to push only to bite your head off ;-)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: AnGex on May 11, 2015, 06:20:20 PM +0100
Had finished last, but I had finished.  :)
Congratulations to the other Finishers!

Some of you may know that I was recently 2 times in hospital. Tomorrow is the third time. I do not know if it is in English, too. But at least it is in German like: All good things are 3. Have a big operation on Wednesday, where they will get a cancer out of my body. So I do not know now what that and the future brings for me. Minimum I will not participate in the next upcoming Races. But I try to think positive and hope that it will all workout well for me.
So long
Andreas

   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: GregT on May 11, 2015, 06:38:31 PM +0100
Have a big operation on Wednesday, where they will get a cancer out of my body. So I do not know now what that and the future brings for me.    

Let's hope for a successful and speedy recovery. Good luck Andreas.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Doni Yourth on May 11, 2015, 07:20:06 PM +0100
Cripes!  Andreas!  I'm shocked to learn this of you.  Yes, I did know that you've undergone some recent medical issues but had not been aware of their nature.  Here's hoping that you'll be fit again soon and be back to us in fighting form.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: EvilClive on May 11, 2015, 07:37:14 PM +0100
I hope that it all goes well for you Andreas. Best wishes for complete and speedy recovery my friend.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Robert Fleurke on May 11, 2015, 07:42:52 PM +0100
We say in dutch "Derde keer scheepsrecht" (third time ships law). Crossing fingers here and wishing you will be cured permanently. Was very happy to see you finish yesterday, solid as always ;)

Wir hoffen und glauben in das Bestes für dich, mein Freund!



Great battle between Rob and Donnie. Once Rob was able to take the position and make it into sector 3 with the lead Donnie's DFV no longer had enough muscle to make up the difference. Nice recovery Rob to place 4th after a lackluster qualifying and having to work your way through traffic.

That was interesting. Got stuck in the twisty parts, had a spin or two, but finally on Lap 8 or so could pass Doni permantly. Had a few goes earlier, also using the crowbar, but Doni didn't give an inch ;D However lost a lot of time behind him, and when I had passed him, Doni suddenly went 5s a lap faster!

Character building drive for me  :o Didn't take enough fuel with me, had to manage last lap, only was aware of it halfway through last lap, so even with better trackposition early on -better quali, hit Clive at 300kmh on the straight, didn't see him until it was too late- would have had to settle for P4.

Grats Greg, Iestyn and Peter! Some great laptimes by the podium guys, also in quali! :) Only 5 finishers, commiserations to the retirements. Sorry to hear about the screenfreezes. This track was fully tested at 36FPS, but not at 60FPS TBH.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Gismo on May 11, 2015, 08:34:33 PM +0100
Best of wishes for you Andreas! with todays technology/knowledge I would reckon you are in good hands :-)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 11, 2015, 08:34:54 PM +0100
Like everyone else here Andreas, my thoughts and best wishes for Wednesday. See you on track soon!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 11, 2015, 09:06:44 PM +0100
Best wishes for Wednesday Andreas.  Hope everything goes well and you are back soon.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on May 11, 2015, 09:12:52 PM +0100
Very best of luck Andreas. Hope to see you back on track soon.

Arf


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: bernie on May 11, 2015, 09:22:04 PM +0100
Good luck Andreas hope it all goes well and 3rd time lucky for sure , we will all be rooting for you mate  :)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: francesco on May 11, 2015, 10:09:37 PM +0100
Best wishes also from me Andreas.I think you can win this battle.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: AnGex on May 13, 2015, 08:14:19 PM +0100
Thanks all for your kind words and best wishes!
But today they could not make the operation in the hospital, because they had a big emergency case there.  :(
So because of the holiday tomorrow and a full  Operation-List on Friday and the weekend then I will have the operation on Monday. So more time and nerves lost.
But anyway looking forward to get it behind me...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Rainier on May 13, 2015, 08:38:08 PM +0100
Best wishes Andreas, see you soon on the tracks !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Robert Fleurke on May 14, 2015, 05:07:21 PM +0100
Sorry to hear Andreas, wish you a lot of strength, best of luck for Monday and again hoping for a full recovery here! Our thoughts are with you at UKGPL! ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Iestyn Davies on May 15, 2015, 10:01:28 PM +0100
Best of luck Andreas!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Works Trophy (67) - Brno - May 10
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 21, 2015, 11:53:31 PM +0100
Mod report published.