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Title: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 29, 2015, 08:42:34 PM +0100
Season 28 Historics Trophy - Round 8 - Mosport

Onwards to Canada, and racing at Mosport Park, most recently just run in the 69X series. Iestyn leads the championship closely pegged by Doni and Cookie, with Dave Rainier and Tristan just behind, with less than a win in points to 1st!

The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham.  The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx.  Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker.  More like something you would find in a GPL race than a real F1 event!.

This race is for cars with engines less than 3L in displacement.

Nobody is restricted to a chassis as there's all to play for the last 3 races.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

This season, races are to be run at 60 frames per second – please use this patch 60fpsV2newmod (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/60fps/).

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.


Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP address = 37.157.48.87
Race date = 30-06-2015
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time (21:30 GMT)
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = mosport (papy)
Variant = 66F1
Damage Model = Pro
Race length = 32 Laps (40 to 50 minutes)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season28/Historics/)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=479&theme=6).

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated from the start to the exit of Moss 2 (i.e. second Moss right-hander) on lap 1.  Other moderation will be on reported incidents only, however any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: bernie on June 29, 2015, 10:25:16 PM +0100
Wont be around for this one , in fact I won't be around for a good few races , had my all new singing and dancing pacemaker installed today been told " no driving for 4 weeks " and about 6 weeks to full recovery , something to do with not disturbing the wires connected from the pm which control the rpm of the engine !

In the meantime you lot will have to find someone else to use for lappery practice  ;)

Don't all volunteer at once  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: dave curtis on June 29, 2015, 10:29:26 PM +0100
Bernie - congrats on your upgrade!
Don't forget to post your HWINFO stats once it's all settled down after initial burn-in phase :)

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 29, 2015, 10:42:38 PM +0100
Plenty of rest, Bernie. I speak from experience in the ticker zone. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Robert Fleurke on June 29, 2015, 10:46:30 PM +0100
Good recovery Bernie!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 29, 2015, 11:37:12 PM +0100
Take care and don't bounce off the rev limiter until you've run the motor in ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Doni Yourth on June 30, 2015, 12:05:02 AM +0100
Yikes!  Sorry to learn that you'll be MIA for a bit, Bernie, but am at least pleased to learn that you'll be fit for duty soon.  Take care, buddy.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: AnGex on June 30, 2015, 10:17:07 AM +0100
So I guess the Password is in memory for Winkelhock? It´s almost 30 Years now...time is running.

Good recovery for you Bernie!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: MagicArsouille on June 30, 2015, 02:14:17 PM +0100
yo  ;)

....well, no handicap for this race will give me no chance at the champ :'(.......

"The first three races will not be handicapped and after that the top three drivers in the championship will be limited to a slower car subject to thirty point margin over the next driver . If handicapping is in action then handicapped drivers will be notified in the race post. ".......

so I have 57 pts delay on Iestyn....
    .........33 pts on Doni....
    .........26 pts on Cookie......

    so it's not very clear for me !??..........."the top three drivers in the championship will be limited to a slower car subject to thirty point margin over the next driver ."......who is the next driver of who ???...... :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Doni Yourth on June 30, 2015, 02:37:03 PM +0100
You're confused, Tristan?  Make that two of us.  I never really have gotten my head around exactly what is meant by the 30 point differential.  I just show up and drive.  I've been running the Eagle(Group 1)for the nominated races even though I haven't been obliged to do so.  Will do again for this race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Ronniepeterson on June 30, 2015, 05:29:18 PM +0100
The implementation of handicapping rules has never been one of UKGPL's strongpoints. As soon as they are agreed and announced at the start of a season they are modified or ignored at the first available chance  ::)  Such is life.

More importantly rest up and see you back on track soon Bernie.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: bernie on June 30, 2015, 05:32:30 PM +0100
yo  ;)

....well, no handicap for this race will give me no chance at the champ :'(.......

"The first three races will not be handicapped and after that the top three drivers in the championship will be limited to a slower car subject to thirty point margin over the next driver . If handicapping is in action then handicapped drivers will be notified in the race post. ".......

so I have 57 pts delay on Iestyn....
    .........33 pts on Doni....
    .........26 pts on Cookie......

    so it's not very clear for me !??..........."the top three drivers in the championship will be limited to a slower car subject to thirty point margin over the next driver ."......who is the next driver of who ???...... :angel:

Think you need to deduct the 2 lowest scores from each player

So the points as they stand now are .......

1st Iestyn 195
2nd Axel 193
3rd Doni 172
4th Tristan 167
5th Rainier 158
6th Evil 125

unless my calculator needs a new battery  ;)

Forgot to say thanks for all the good wishes chaps  :)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Doni Yourth on June 30, 2015, 06:11:56 PM +0100
Quite so, Bernie.  A player's two worst scores will be discarded.  That said, I wonder why one each of the worst scores in the 2L and 3L divisions weren't nominated instead a blanket two scores?  As it is, one might use two 2L or two 3L finishes to drop.  Just sayin...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 30, 2015, 06:26:06 PM +0100
The main reason handicapping hasn't been really enforced is because it's been that close that based on the thresholds for those handicaps it would not really take effect. Next season the cars all get mixed in together, so that will cause its own set of problems that handicapping would not really help out!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: EvilClive on June 30, 2015, 07:29:18 PM +0100
Make sure that you do the "resting" thing with all your available energy Bernie!  ;)

 You can't skimp on that resting stuff IMHO. ;D




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Rainier on June 30, 2015, 08:29:28 PM +0100
Tristan, you have to win on the tracks, and not with the help of a computer    ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Iestyn Davies on June 30, 2015, 08:43:54 PM +0100
Scoring is best 8, so at the moment I'm dropping a non-score at Oulton. That said, rest up well Bernie!

Jethro - do you mean 2 and 3 lts all in the same race? That sounds like a slower version of 69x.. ???

PS. Tris, you have the WR for Brabham BT11 BRM in Training mode.. you have the replay? You can upload it to GPLrank for the WR replay page 8).

Tempting to go with BT11 2.5 again after our epic races last night in LBGPL. Perfect warm up as it turns out :P, but I'll stick to Team Lotus for the remaining 3 races of the season.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: bernie on June 30, 2015, 09:35:48 PM +0100
Make sure that you do the "resting" thing with all your available energy Bernie!  ;)

 You can't skimp on that resting stuff IMHO. ;D




Sure its an art form ( typed with 1 little pinky @ 36fps )


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 30, 2015, 09:57:56 PM +0100
Jethro - do you mean 2 and 3 lts all in the same race? That sounds like a slower version of 69x.. ???

PS. Tris, you have the WR for Brabham BT11 BRM in Training mode.. you have the replay? You can upload it to GPLrank for the WR replay page 8).

Tempting to go with BT11 2.5 again after our epic races last night in LBGPL. Perfect warm up as it turns out :P, but I'll stick to Team Lotus for the remaining 3 races of the season.

Think so, we've run it once previously and it caused some havoc. Given the calibre of the members running 66s a mixed 3L with less than 3L should be a good combo, especially at places like Zandvoort or Mosport.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 30, 2015, 10:47:58 PM +0100
Results up, replay up. Iestyn's 2nd place now puts him in the Group I chassis for Beal Valley (good luck sire), with Doni, Tristan and Cookie close together in the chasing pack.

I may partake in the last two rounds, given time and not-so-screamy MiniTM, as it has been too long since I raced at this track and the 66s will be a nice challenge there, plus I miss racing on Tuesdays!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on June 30, 2015, 11:41:34 PM +0100
Guess we'll see you back for Season 29 then Bernie. Hope the doc hasn't banned you from pies & beer too.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: Iestyn Davies on July 01, 2015, 12:26:40 AM +0100
Good to hear Jethro! I was surprised we only had 9 tonight, as I personally love this track and car combo (2nd WR here now being uploaded :), scene of my first ever). I was trying to beat Hristo's overall car WR (needed 0.03) when I did the same error as in LBGPL yesterday (same combo and number of drivers.. Tris, Rainier and I in both), hooking the rear left off the outside into T3. Would have been OK, but for a small 360 in T1 earlier in the race ::)!

I was thinking about it a bit more and if used well, all cars could actually add a nice element.. e.g. give Fran a 312, not a 246, and he would be much closer to my pace. There's 6 car groups, but scope for them to overlap given the calendar and which tracks are on it, either giving a balanced chance for all or graded cars for each driver. There could be some interesting races and for the championship overall! e.g. Le Mans Sarthe with the 'Ams' in the 3lts, but also Brands Hatch where the cars are all within a second, so a chance for the 'Pros' to even it up.

This breaks my Team Lotus streak.. I guess the BRM engine is at the shop in stark need of improvements :laugh:! Beal Valley looks like a long track though, so if there's any track for a handicap, maybe it's that one..


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: maddog on July 01, 2015, 01:50:53 AM +0100
I was surprised we only had 9 tonight . . . .
A reason for not showing up, is the variable rules and restrictions, during a Season.  This is not an enhancement unless purposely factored in somehow, and agreed to.  Well done Lestyn for getting constructive, and I don't exactly mean to drop our overseer in it, as this situation is nothing new. ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) Historic Trophy (66) - Mosport - Jun 30
Post by: EvilClive on July 01, 2015, 10:13:34 AM +0100
Just a suggestion re next season if we are planning to run the whole 66 pack in each race. As we race Heavy and Light together in 66's there is the opportunity to "even things up" a little?

If it is a 10 race series, we could limit all the Lights to 5 cars from 3 litre and 5 cars from sub 3ltr, ?