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Title: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: spanner on July 16, 2015, 08:12:50 PM +0100
Booking: From 19:15 (BST) (60 mins)
Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qual: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45  20 laps (approx 30 mins)

Cars allowed:
Official GT3 cars (BMW M4 GT3, Mercedes SLS GT3, Maclaren MP4-12C GT3, Nissan GTR GT3)
 Note: The Assetto Corsa Dream Pack 1 DLC is required for this race.

Track: Donnington Park GP http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/donington-park.3031/
Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Mid Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=97
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=25
SESSION_TRANSFER=60

Damage: 70%

Server: simracing.org.uk
Password: Our usual practise password

All drivers must be booked in to race before booking closes at 20:15 UK time.

IMPORTANT:

-The PLP app VERSION 1.2 (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/a-pit-lane-penalty-app-for-repeated-track-cutting-1-2.17852/) is required. The file is an attachment on the first message, download and install as it is.The string that is posted in chat when you join should read: "PLP:running version 1.2,3-50-3-True-1.3-0.9-3" - if it doesn't, then you will be excluded from the results.

-Dream pack 1 DLC required.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: keikojoe on July 20, 2015, 12:32:20 PM +0100
Im up for this guys see you there.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Sutol on July 20, 2015, 12:57:54 PM +0100
up for this too


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 20, 2015, 07:07:03 PM +0100
Gt3's at Donington...cool  8)

Will be there  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 20, 2015, 07:20:30 PM +0100
(https://tracksideviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/bgl_5612.jpg?w=590)

Think this should go top post  :)

Advert posted at Kunos site  :-*


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: spanner on July 20, 2015, 10:51:22 PM +0100
ok, i'll say my piece,

Did you take the photo? Do you have the permission to use the photo in a public forum?

Also we dont actually have a porsche!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on July 21, 2015, 08:37:10 AM +0100
Uuurrgggg!!!! ehm next time we can take an in-game snapshot then...

I am in for this one too. Let's just hope my toddler is not going to be up until 11pm this time!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: AndreasK on July 21, 2015, 11:48:35 AM +0100
Sounds fun, count me in.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: SRW on July 21, 2015, 01:19:03 PM +0100
i am up for it, always like racing at donington


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 21, 2015, 03:56:52 PM +0100
(https://tracksideviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/bgl_5612.jpg?w=590)

Think this should go top post  :)

Advert posted at Kunos site  :-*

What are you getting your knickers in a twist about? The image is widely available in google images! As for having a Porsche in it, should I paint shop out the individual car and leave the rest in?  ::)
It's meant to help promote the racing bell-end, something this place never does then wonders why we have a handful of racers  >:( but if that's your carp attitude I will not bother again.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 21, 2015, 04:06:00 PM +0100
Please can we not revert to childish name calling, Spanner has a point about copyright ownership of images, just because it's all over Google images doesn't give people the right to use it. We respect owners of 3rd party content made to support our games and get their permissions to host files for our events etc, pictures are no different.

If you're unhappy with how things are done MJ step up to the plate and offer to help out. Without organisers doing anything believe me this place will be even quieter :P

For me I'll not be racing because I'm fed up with this game crashing on me or fiddling fuel calculations but I'll still be giving up my time to start this race and post the results when you've all finished.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 21, 2015, 07:12:46 PM +0100
Sorry thought by giving up half hour to look for a photo to snazz up the very dull race threads we have on here and copy pasting all to a thread, with links and race info, onto the Kunos site section that 'promotes' online racing, I was helping?...silly me. ::)



Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: spanner on July 21, 2015, 09:12:18 PM +0100
If we could all have a grown up discussion ::)

Lap count updated


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: ChrisR on July 22, 2015, 09:42:54 AM +0100
Images on google are owned by google. There was a big hoo har about it a year or two ago.

Same as facebook, any images uploaded there are then owned by facebook, if you read all your t&c's it says it clearly.

At least mark is doing something in the way of promoting this websote, i did loads but in the end i saw no effort from the mods so thought why should i bother..  Even tho i still tell everyone to race here :s..

And picnic, you need to do about 3/4 laps so the game can work out your fuel, but if you use mini stats bar plus then do 2 laps and then do the aimple calculation.. Litre per lap x number of laps..


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: keikojoe on July 22, 2015, 11:59:05 AM +0100
Is this race on the national or gp version of the track ?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 12:00:23 PM +0100
Quote
Track: Donnington Park GP


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: AndreasK on July 22, 2015, 05:12:03 PM +0100
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Password: Our usual practise password

Please someone hit me with a PM ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 05:31:11 PM +0100
Password normally appears above the posts but for some reason not obvious to me it's not for this event.

See https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929 to get the practice password


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: spanner on July 22, 2015, 06:33:39 PM +0100
Same as sundays password.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 07:13:24 PM +0100
I see the password has appeared above the topic posts now, not sure why it wasn't there before. Did you tweak something Spanner?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 07:16:06 PM +0100
Server is up, enjoy your race all.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Darren Adams on July 22, 2015, 07:23:48 PM +0100
Getting "Server Contains Unavailable Content". So I think either it's not the linked track version or the name in server cfg is wrong?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Jester on July 22, 2015, 07:27:27 PM +0100
Server is running an old version or a different version than the one in the invite.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 07:31:20 PM +0100
Reloading the track, please bear with me


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Darren Adams on July 22, 2015, 07:39:50 PM +0100
Working now, thanks  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 07:42:57 PM +0100
Phew!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: spanner on July 22, 2015, 07:44:15 PM +0100
Strange, should be the same version we've ran before.

Pete, i filled the password in, in LM2. I' ll learn for next time!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 07:51:59 PM +0100
Pete, i filled the password in, in LM2. I' ll learn for next time!
Obviously losing my marbles tonight :( I checked and thought the password was there when it wasn't appearing....


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 22, 2015, 08:14:53 PM +0100
You should be joining us Pete! Great track this, very well modded  8), looks real, and a good set of cars to race on it. Fuel appears fine too  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Jester on July 22, 2015, 09:27:19 PM +0100
Why do we use PLP, if all I see is that it's being ignored?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Jester on July 22, 2015, 09:28:11 PM +0100
UKAC GT3 season 1 replay (https://mega.nz/#F!LtpADRYQ!ptTREHhq0il0hUvqDGRYnQ)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 22, 2015, 09:30:45 PM +0100
Why do we use PLP, if all I see is that it's being ignored?
I personally think it's a load of rubbish anyway. It gives you penalties when you make a mistake and run off the track wide somewhere and then it doesn't give you penalties when cutting chicanes so the very core of the thing doesn't work. Also doesn't seem to have the ability to autpmatically boot people from the server for ignoring penalties either and I don't suppose the LM2i system takes PLP into account when processing the results does it?

The main thing I don't like about it is that it simply doesn't seem to detect real track cutting which is the whole point.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: AndreasK on July 22, 2015, 09:41:58 PM +0100
Good fun, cheers.

Got hit in the hairpin of lap 1 for no reason but was able to ctach it, still lost the spot.
Woulda expected that guy to wait but he then spun himself out a lap later... smart guy ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 22, 2015, 09:47:58 PM +0100
Nice to see some new faces and an enjoyable race for me until the 3rd part when my dashboard fell off and I lost concentration with no-one to race. Started 4th, finished 4th, not bad against strong opposition.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 09:58:02 PM +0100
You should be joining us Pete! Great track this, very well modded  8), looks real, and a good set of cars to race on it. Fuel appears fine too  ;)
It's not just the fuel it's also the fact the game keeps crashing on me.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 22, 2015, 10:02:48 PM +0100
Sorry the results will be a little late, the importer is moaning about the track and I need help from above.......


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 22, 2015, 10:07:49 PM +0100
I thought that was a great race, full of action and one of the best car/track combos I've raced on in AC  8)
Great to see new faces too, not sure if they saw the ad on Kunos or Chris invited them but good to see anyway, welcome onboard guys  :)
Qually was fiercely tight! I was chasing 6th place for most of the sesh, set my fastest lap (1.29) in the last seconds and still dropped to 8th!  
Race was close and fast for first 10 laps then spread out more for last half but I had soneone to chase for most of it and kept my nose clean, finishing 7th.....although, two guys ahead got stop and go penalties in the last 3 laps so I do believe my final position may be 5th? (I assume we are going to enforce them, tracks like Donington need the cutting app or people just abuse it).

Some quick guys up front  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 23, 2015, 07:55:08 AM +0100
Dave's sorted the track out but I'm still struggling to import the results. Can Guilherme Cramer and Sven Walther please let me have their forum nicknames as I can't work it out.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: ChrisR on July 23, 2015, 08:22:53 AM +0100
I got 1 penalty for cutting the old hairpin (roght hander at the bottom of craner curves) but the other 3 i gpt where from running wide and losing about .5 to 1 second each time so i was just ignoring them.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on July 23, 2015, 09:57:02 AM +0100
Yes indeed, track was looking very good and great to race on with these cars. Have done a lot of Donington laps, but that was with Microprose GP500.. :angel:

Unfortunately a had stutter problems during practice, left to adjust the display setting (reduced AA & AF) but it didn;t seem to help much.
Strangely the previous two online races i joined where running pretty smoothly. Maybe this 3rd party track was a little heavy on my system? Afterwarts i did some more down-tuning and it was running smooth again with an off-line race.
Congrats to the podium and i hope i did not get in the way too much. Looking forward to the next races!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 23, 2015, 10:37:25 PM +0100
Some action photos from last night (also posted over at Kunos site), pics courtesy of my good friend Jester  8)

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/MJ_p911/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmiz2v05g.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/MJ_p911/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmiz2v05g.jpg.html)

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/MJ_p911/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfes87sy.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/MJ_p911/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfes87sy.jpg.html)

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/MJ_p911/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps9e74fawx.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/MJ_p911/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps9e74fawx.jpg.html)






Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: spanner on July 23, 2015, 10:59:23 PM +0100
I like the effect on them, bit strange but actually makes look more realistic.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on July 24, 2015, 08:58:49 AM +0100
Less then 100% colour saturation?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: picnic on July 24, 2015, 09:31:44 AM +0100
Dave's sorted the track out but I'm still struggling to import the results. Can Guilherme Cramer and Sven Walther please let me have their forum nicknames as I can't work it out.
Anyone help here?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 24, 2015, 09:40:37 AM +0100
I think it maybe time to change the password and remind people that should never tell anyone the password and instead if people want the password they can be given a link and if they have permissions they will see it and if not they wont.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: spanner on July 24, 2015, 09:21:34 PM +0100
It really isnt too much to ask people to register here if they plan to run in our races is it?

I was thinking about running different passwords, but then it still doesnt stop people from passing it on. Yes it means they can race but it it doesnt help us to enforce/ maintain the drving standards if people arnt prepared to visit the forums and participate.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: goldtop on July 24, 2015, 10:00:35 PM +0100
It really isnt too much to ask people to register here if they plan to run in our races is it?

I was thinking about running different passwords, but then it still doesnt stop people from passing it on. Yes it means they can race but it it doesnt help us to enforce/ maintain the drving standards if people arnt prepared to visit the forums and participate.

A possible solution to this would be to simply exclude them from the results together with those who choose to ignore penalties  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 24, 2015, 10:08:51 PM +0100
It really isnt too much to ask people to register here if they plan to run in our races is it?

I was thinking about running different passwords, but then it still doesnt stop people from passing it on. Yes it means they can race but it it doesnt help us to enforce/ maintain the drving standards if people arnt prepared to visit the forums and participate.

Heh, even the regulars on here don't participate nor bother commenting in these forums  ::)
Was hoping those new faces would become new regulars, but thought they must have registered on here to get the PW? I certainly didn't give out the PW to anyone and it's not in the advert thread over on Kunos. Perhaps this turn up and race is just the new way of simracing ?  :-\. At least they boosted the grid number and made it an event rather than a handful of racers. :). Can't they just go in the results as 'guest racers' if they don't shout up? Might even be they don't speak English!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 26, 2015, 11:13:29 PM +0100
So we didn't enforce the stop and go penaltys then ? :nono:  don't agree with that personally, what's the point of running it? Time can be gained cutting corners at tracks like Donington and Monza to name but two, even in the line you can choose to take in corner sequences for faster laps if no fear of the kerb margins. :-\



Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 27, 2015, 08:22:47 AM +0100
So we didn't enforce the stop and go penaltys then ? :nono:  don't agree with that personally, what's the point of running it? Time can be gained cutting corners at tracks like Donington and Monza to name but two, even in the line you can choose to take in corner sequences for faster laps if no fear of the kerb margins. :-\
I suspect that they may still get penalties in due course. Results are imported from the game and it's not the job of the person importing the results to add penalties or exclusions, that would come through the incident reporting system and the incident moderation team.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Sutol on July 27, 2015, 08:33:03 AM +0100
Last night on Core racing at Monza, there was the usual T1 shenanigans at start and to avoid the spinning cars I ventured into the gravel. Avoided getting hit but ended up last and got a penalty for my troubles, I was only doing about 10mph and clearly had already been penalised. It's clear PLP doesn't work properly and will almost certainly give rise to much post race analysis which is ok if the race mods have got the time??


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: ChrisR on July 27, 2015, 09:37:55 AM +0100
Can i just add before virtual fingers are pointed.... I did not give out any passwords to anyone this time.. It deffo was not me.

One way to do this would be just like darren does on core-racing .. Its an excellent way of doing it imo, you have to sign up otherwise you just cant race.



Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 27, 2015, 09:41:26 AM +0100
Can i just add before virtual fingers are pointed.... I did not give out any passwords to anyone this time.. It deffo was not me.
One way to do this would be just like darren does on core-racing .. Its an excellent way of doing it imo, you have to sign up otherwise you just cant race.

Do you mean you have to pre-book the drivers? That's how it was done at ESRA too.

The way they did it was that each race post was actually a vote where the VOTE was "YES" register me "NO" don't register me "MAYBE". Then the server starter added everyone on the YES list and if grid spaces left everyone on the MAYBE list. You would need to commit to a car make/model but I don't think that would be a problem, but does require another "registration" thread to confirm people's choices.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 GT3 - Donington Park - Jul 22
Post by: Mark J on July 27, 2015, 08:44:57 PM +0100
yep totally agree with Chris and Sharky, pre race voting is definitely a good move as it helps give people an idea how many racers are attending and creates interest as the list increases. it worked well at Esra and now at Core racing.  :)

To Sutol, yes know the cut warning can work against you when you just have an incident, but you still get 3 chances before being given a stop and go. If you generally make 3 cutting errors then your not driving either within your own or the tracks limits. When I get a cut warning I take due care at that same corner for rest of race, not ignore the first warning  :angel: and likewise had races where if i've picked up two warnings I slow more later in the race to avoid a costly penalty. Not ideal but better than a handful of drivers getting a continued advantage for a full race length by cutting. All other leagues use this utility to good effect so don't see why we should let it slide. Just my thoughts on it.  :)