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Title: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on August 07, 2015, 11:55:09 PM +0100
Joe Shaw Memorial Trophy - Round 2 – Brands Hatch

The Joe Shaw Memorial trophy is being contested of six rounds on classic British tracks using the original 1967 car set. Round 2 will take place at Brands Hatch. Pro rules apply but the competition is open to all comers. To even up the competition a little the following voluntary handicap system is proposed;
Privateers drivers – no handicap
Works drivers – no Lotus or Eagle
Fastest Works drivers – Honda, Cooper of BRM

The races will be held each Sunday & Tuesday for 3 weeks commencing Sunday 9th August, finishing on the 25th. The track list is Snetterton, Brands Hatch, Donnington, Castle Coombe, Aintree & Goodwood.

Points will be awarded according to historic GP scoring, 9 for 1st, 6 for 2nd,  4 for 3rd, 3 for 4th, 2 for 5th & 1 for 6th.

Moderation will be for reported incidents only.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP = 37.157.48.87
Race date = Tuesday 11-08-2015
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = brands 67 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6810)
Race length = 19 Laps (approx 30 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30 minutes

Replays– you will get here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season28/Joe Shaw/).

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Ronnie Nilsson on August 10, 2015, 09:39:47 AM +0100
Brands patched to the lowest res possible.  Chosen chassis, Lotus.  8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Pelle_B on August 11, 2015, 05:43:31 PM +0100
After another 'freeze' on Snett67...I panicked. Had Win 8.1 x64 & I said yes in Windows Update for Windows 10 upgrade. Everything ran smoothly for a good hour to update & GPL works without problems...but I freezes again at Brands...time will tell  8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Cookie on August 11, 2015, 06:45:11 PM +0100
Make shure you have the "Ginetto" version of the track, linked in the race post!

You can feel it, as it has no bump at the exit of the pit lane...

PS

Andreas, your server is still not accepting my attempts to join...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: malgrips on August 11, 2015, 07:05:10 PM +0100
Hi All

Apparently I'm not qualified to join the Race, what do I have to do?

regards

Malcolm


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Robert Fleurke on August 11, 2015, 07:33:56 PM +0100
Malcolm, you probably have to enable 60fpsv2newmod patch in GEM+, then choose iGOR.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: malgrips on August 11, 2015, 07:50:04 PM +0100
Hi Robert

Many thanks, ive just realised it was in the same zip file for v2.

Hope you are well.

Regards

Malcolm


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: AnGex on August 11, 2015, 08:32:01 PM +0100
...

PS

Andreas, your server is still not accepting my attempts to join...

Thanks for the hint. Just checked and this time the addresses for the server and the smart-phone changed again. That drives me crazy. Maybe next time I don´t connect the phone so the server stays with the first address. Or maybe somebody has another tip?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: malgrips on August 11, 2015, 08:47:40 PM +0100
Have you tried giving the server a static ip address?

Regards

Malcolm


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: AnGex on August 11, 2015, 08:52:07 PM +0100
Don´t know how...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Robert Fleurke on August 11, 2015, 08:52:55 PM +0100
Malcolm, great to see you on the practise server. We are in chat channel #ukgpl / pw = savage


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on August 11, 2015, 09:28:04 PM +0100
Apologies to anyone who had the same problem as me.

Entering the track dumps you in  the hay bales & there is no Shift R to escape. I went to SRMZ looking for the fix, downloaded it, rejoined & same problem. I am sure I have raced at Brands before & started in the pit lane! Looks like the majority of drivers know where to find the fix. Off to do something else.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: EvilClive on August 11, 2015, 10:02:58 PM +0100
Great to see Malcolm on track. Thank you for joining us, I know that some of the aliens at the front of the grid can post some intimidating lap times, but trust me....... not all of us are THAT fast!!  So hopefully you will join us in future races?

Well after enjoying the warm embrace of the haybales in the pits for 30 minutes and joining the rear of the grid, I discovered that my sound was corrupted and I had a wierd warbling engine note that peaked at 9k, even though the rev counter continued to 11k??!!

Then just to complete my misery, I was concentrating so hard on my mirrors out of Graham Hill bend watching for where cars were likely to attack into Surtees, that I totally missed the cars ahead slowing and.....................race over :-\

Big apologies to whoever I rear ended, my fault entirely!  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Ronnie Nilsson on August 11, 2015, 10:08:24 PM +0100
Heh, great fun.  I qualified 10th, mainly because half the grid couldn't get out of the hay bales!  Had a steady race, being passed by all and sundry.  Had a great battle with A. Livingstone for a few laps, till I lost concentration and span at Druids.  Only to re-overtake him when he went wide at Clarke.  I was then lapped by the winner - I think it was about lap 16.  Unfortunately, I inexplicably crashed just before Paddock and burst into flames.  Oh well.  ;D

There was a lot of warping, but it is a great track to drive.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: malgrips on August 11, 2015, 10:10:48 PM +0100
Hi and thank you Clive.

After crashing on virtually every lap of qualifying I either stalled or broke my engine at the start and managed to coast as far as Druids!!!

I clearly have an awful lot to learn.

I will return ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: EvilClive on August 11, 2015, 10:33:27 PM +0100
Don't worry Malcolm,  if there are any replays still in existance of my first race in UKPGPL, I want them erased!! I managed to take out a couple of the lead cars as they lapped me and tested every section of armco for impact resistance before trashing the engine. I thought that I would be banned for life after that display.

One thing that everyone finds with GPL is that it takes a little time to develop a "feel" for these 67 beasts, so don't give up. Even the fast guys are still learning  ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Samb on August 11, 2015, 10:39:18 PM +0100
Amen to that Clive. I've been racing at UKGPL for 7 years on and off and I still can't string a race together  ::).

Always satisfying when you do get it right from time to time  ;D.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Robert Fleurke on August 11, 2015, 10:52:56 PM +0100
Great to see you Malcolm joining us!  :)

Shame there seemed to be some sort of serverwarp or hickup which made it hard to race close, and it arguably led to incidents...might have been a different track version at UKGPL9 as some couldn't even qualify!?

As I started from Pole, I wasn't distracted, and was happy with my pace and race, even when there was no pressure. Huge chassis PR and consistent, obviously my back is going in the right direction :)

Track needs to grow on you, and needs many, many laps to go fast. It has become one of my all-time favorites, it's technical with many challenging corners, and it has a good flow.

Good job Tim and Doni, sweeping the podium with Coopers. Commiserations to the retirements, and those struggling with warp and not being able to qualify...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Turkey Machine on August 11, 2015, 11:01:39 PM +0100
Apologies for the pit lane hiccup, chose a loose grid from UKGPL5's collection as feared the default 3x2 that was originally installed would cause a bit of chaos on a full server.

The warp issue is a bit of an odd one considering that it's hosted full races before, albeit at Spa67...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Cookie on August 11, 2015, 11:22:03 PM +0100
Jethro you have the old buggy Brands version installed  ;)
Following the link in the race post you will find some posts down the server and Voodoo version of Achim...
The grid was ok, but not the pit stalls ::)

Even it ended in a slow motion roll over in the penultimate lap, I enjoyed the race very much.
Great wheel to wheel battles ;D even with lots of warping  :o

Maybe the warp was caused by MS-patchday a stress for the whole net...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: malgrips on August 11, 2015, 11:38:18 PM +0100
Thank you Robert,

I've actually driven the Brands GP circuit in a Ginetta G40, albeit the Modern layout but it was no help at all when it came to a 67 GPL car, no feedback through the bum area!

Massive respect to you all for getting them to go so quickly :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: MagicArsouille on August 12, 2015, 12:49:45 AM +0100
arffffff !  miss this one    ???.......where I can find the calendar  of JSM ?? ???.......
THX. ;D
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Rainier on August 12, 2015, 08:15:21 AM +0100
arffffff !  miss this one    ???.......where I can find the calendar  of JSM ?? ???.......
THX. ;D
 

Tristan,
En haut à droite, juste en dessous de Forthcoming (tu passes la souris dessus)  ;)
==> Donington 16/08, Castle Combe 18/08, Aintree 23/08, Goodwood 25/08  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Rainier on August 12, 2015, 08:20:01 AM +0100
After this race (if I am not mistaken, and before moderation)   :

1 Robert 13
2 Iestyn 11
3 Tim       7
4 Axel and Doni 6
6 Clive and Ronnie 3
8 Pelle 1


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Ronnie Nilsson on August 12, 2015, 08:34:41 AM +0100
After this race (if I am not mistaken, and before moderation)   :

1 Robert 13
2 Iestyn 11
3 Tim       7
4 Axel and Doni 6
6 Clive and Ronnie 3
8 Pelle 1

RONNIE??!  Yea... ...oh... wrong Ronnie...  ;D  See y'all at Donington.  Did a few laps of it last night, and it is a great track.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Rainier on August 12, 2015, 08:55:22 AM +0100
After this race (if I am not mistaken, and before moderation)   :

1 Robert 13
2 Iestyn 11
3 Tim       7
4 Axel and Doni 6
6 Clive and Ronnie 3
8 Pelle 1


RONNIE??!  Yea... ...oh... wrong Ronnie...  ;D  See y'all at Donington.  Did a few laps of it last night, and it is a great track.

Peterson, Nilsson ...it's all about Sweden !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Doni Yourth on August 12, 2015, 03:43:08 PM +0100
First things first...  It really was an honour to have Malcolm join us for this Brands round.  Hoping it's a trend.  :)

Fine congratulations to Robert for a walkaway win in the Cooper!  A 'slam' by any definition.  :)

Begrudging grats to Tim on a P2 finish in the Cooper.  Grrr...  ;)

Just kiddin', Tim.  I really enjoyed our spar.  Ripping!

A lucky P3 for me to make it a Cooper sweep.  But oh, my...  A tiny error cost me P2 with only 1-1/2 laps to run.  Grrr...  Then again, could have been worse!  More on that later...

I chose the Cooper for this round as it's such a nice, plush ride.  Sorta like a Caddy.  The Brabham I found slightly 'edgey' and while I was a full 1/2 second faster in the BT24 in pre-race trials, I opted for the T81B.

I was really bummed-out to note a couple of things from this event.  Firstly, on going to the pit lane to start my qualifying, I was mystified to see my pit stall tag about 30m down the lane.  ???  What was this all about?  It didn't have any consequence for me as I was able to exit the pits as per normal but...  As it turned out, everyone seemed to have their stall mis-placed and the really unlucky ones were assigned stalls that put them into the haybales at the start of the pit lane and with no shift-R available, were scuppered in any attempts to qualify.  MERDE!  This glitch cost a number of top guns the chance to qualify and start where they might normally do so and went along way to explaining why I was able to start well up.  In scoping my replay cap of the race, I noted, too, that we were all placed a similar distance back-track on the grid proper.  I jumped into Robert's cockpit and couldn't help but notice that he wasn't anywhere near the starter's stand.  Clearly, something up with the track.ini file.

Secondly, after my qualifying runs, I watched some others on their rounds and was alarmed to see many car images were winking out for a couple of seconds.  This did note bode well for the race.  If it was repeated, all manner of nonsense was likely to occur and indeed, I think that some shunts and contact witnessed after the race in my replay cap seemed to indicate just that.  Downer!  :(  I experienced one, brief spike in my lag bar in the race but otherwise had no complaints.  Only after Tim passed me late in the going did I see that his Cooper was stuttering a bit.  If he had to spend 18-1/2 laps with me doing that just in front of him, it wouldn't have been fun.

Dean's early off(but staged a nice recovery to finish P7)and the contact(warp? sure looked like something goofy was going on there to these eyes)between Axel and Pelle had me up to P2 within a mere 1-1/2 laps.  HEY!  I'm not used to running this high up!  MOTHER!!!

For many a round, I had Tim right on my tail pressing for a pass.  Robert was lone gone.  Most laps, I had things pretty much covered and while I readily thought that Tim was faster, there just wasn't the opportunity to pass.  Comes Lap18 and I was somewhat conservative in my entry to South Bank.  I turned in a bit early and bled off some more speed than usual.  Doubtless feeling the heat from behind.  This compromised pass through the corner really bit my in the arse when I lightly nudged the outfield kerb and I had to hesitate before going throttle up.  This cost me speed down the straight and with Tim getting a really good launch off the corner, he drew alongside on my left.  Ahead, even.  From my cockpit, I could just make out his RF wheel.  I was determined to fight back, though, and dove into Hawthorn as late as I dared on the inside lane.  I  changed down to 2nd gear(not my usual 3rd)to get a better pass through and out of Hawthorn in hopes of gunning Tim down on the run up the hill to Westfield.  Nope.  I kissed the infield kerb in my effort to leave Tim room on the outside and this killed my chances to contest for Westfield.  Nevertheless, I pressed on hard.  Tim eased out a smallish gap over the last 1-1/2 laps but I kept pushing hard hoping for a small error.  It didn't come.  Indeed, I just about threw away my podium finish with a lurid slide coming off Clearways with the finish line in sight.  The LR tyre only just caught the outside verge and I went for a skate off into the infield.  The Cooper looped around but I was lucky in that it righted itself and I was able to regain the track surface not far ahead of Ray.  That could have gone much, much worse.  Lucky boy!

Two races.  Two great dices with Tim.  On to DONIngton.  Hmmm...  Dare I think?  :)

RIP, Joe.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Turkey Machine on August 12, 2015, 06:31:12 PM +0100
Jethro you have the old buggy Brands version installed  ;)
Following the link in the race post you will find some posts down the server and Voodoo version of Achim...
The grid was ok, but not the pit stalls ::)

Even it ended in a slow motion roll over in the penultimate lap, I enjoyed the race very much.
Great wheel to wheel battles ;D even with lots of warping  :o

Maybe the warp was caused by MS-patchday a stress for the whole net...

Whoops, yeah wrong track would do it!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 - Joe Shaw Memorial - Brands Hatch - Aug 11
Post by: Robert Fleurke on August 12, 2015, 10:01:22 PM +0100
Thank you Robert,

I've actually driven the Brands GP circuit in a Ginetta G40, albeit the Modern layout but it was no help at all when it came to a 67 GPL car, no feedback through the bum area!

Massive respect to you all for getting them to go so quickly :)

It was quite an honour having you on the server. Too bad for your early retirement, and the server glitches, but I hope you enjoyed the atmosphere and the experience. As others said, feel free to join in some more! :)

Surely GPL is a very difficult sim, with a steep learning curve. Brands 67 is also a very difficult track as well. All these British tracks on the calender are quite difficult I think, with a lot of character.

Nothing beats the real deal though, must have been fun driving at the real track.

arffffff !  miss this one    ???.......where I can find the calendar  of JSM ?? ???.......
THX. ;D
 

Tristan,
En haut à droite, juste en dessous de Forthcoming (tu passes la souris dessus)  ;)
==> Donington 16/08, Castle Combe 18/08, Aintree 23/08, Goodwood 25/08  

Additionally the info Billy put in the pinned Joe Shaw Memorial Trophy thread in the Announcements section:

Quote
As we have some space in the calendar this year's Joe Shaw Trophy will be a slightly longer format that previous events. It will be staged over six rounds on Sundays & Tuesdays. starting on Sunday 9th, concluding on Tuesday 25th. We will race on six classic British tracks using the original67 mod; Snetterton, Brands Hatch, Donnington, Castle Coombe, Aintree & Goodwood (in that order if you want to practice). Goodwood does have a glitch somewhere in the track design but as the prestigious trophy is presented to the winner (if they attend) at the Goodwood Revival on September 11th -13th it seems a fitting place to finish.

The event is open to all comers. All tracks are short to medium length & in the interest of promoting close racing & reducing lapping incidents the following voluntary handicap system will apply.
Privateer standard - no handicap
Works standard - no Lotus or Eagle
Top runners in the Works (you know who you are) - Honda, Cooper or BRM.
Races will run on Pro settings for around 30 minutes. Usual qualifying arrangements.