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Title: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on August 22, 2015, 10:11:54 PM +0100
Joe Shaw Memorial Trophy - Round 6 – Goodwood

The Joe Shaw Memorial trophy is being contested of six rounds on classic British tracks using the original 1967 car set. The final round will take place at Goodwood. Whilst the track file is known to have a problem which can cause discos the circuit is too good to ignore.
Pro rules apply but the competition is open to all comers. To even up the competition a little the following voluntary handicap system is proposed;
Privateers drivers – no handicap
Works drivers – no Lotus or Eagle
Fastest Works drivers – Honda, Cooper of BRM

The races will be held each Sunday & Tuesday for 3 weeks commencing Sunday 9th August, finishing on the 25th. The track list is Snetterton, Brands Hatch, Donnington, Castle Coombe, Aintree & Goodwood.

Points will be awarded according to historic GP scoring, 9 for 1st, 6 for 2nd,  4 for 3rd, 3 for 4th, 2 for 5th & 1 for 6th.

Moderation will be for reported incidents only.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Tuesday 25-08-2015
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track= goodwood (http://srmz.net/index.php?s=46bb24183f3448bde434298f557d3e56&showtopic=7173&st=0&p=65855&#entry65855)
Race length = 24 Laps (approx 30 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30 minutes

Replays– will be available.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Ronniepeterson on August 25, 2015, 08:57:33 AM +0100
Final round, thanks for organising this series Billy.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Pelle_B on August 25, 2015, 05:09:26 PM +0100
...also a Thank You from me & really fun tracks  :thumbup1:

Goodwood, my 'Track Record' here says: 1:07.xx...how? I'm just slow here, missing 10 seconds  :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: MagicArsouille on August 25, 2015, 09:39:36 PM +0100
well well....one more disco !!?....have a good race guys .....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: DLogan on August 25, 2015, 09:41:45 PM +0100
So Ray gets a more than a bit sideways, I can't avoid giving him an extremely small tap, and we both roll?!?!?!?

Stupid game.  >:(

GL to those still running.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Ronniepeterson on August 25, 2015, 10:00:57 PM +0100
So Ray gets a more than a bit sideways, I can't avoid giving him an extremely small tap, and we both roll?!?!?!?

Stupid game.  >:(

GL to those still running.

Sorry you got caught up in my own accident :-[

Thanks for the company Andy, shame my engine blew could have been close all the way. Good luck to yourself and all still running.

Great driver and great series in his honour. It was a pleasure to drive with you Malcolm.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Pelle_B on August 25, 2015, 10:07:49 PM +0100
ARGH...I freeze, maybe 4 laps before finish  :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: francesco on August 25, 2015, 10:09:29 PM +0100
Black smoke art the start!Difficult track for me this one.My compliment to all the pilots(more or less all) under 1,20.
Is a beautiful trophy but i have raced only 1 time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: malgrips on August 25, 2015, 10:13:42 PM +0100
So Ray gets a more than a bit sideways, I can't avoid giving him an extremely small tap, and we both roll?!?!?!?

Stupid game.  >:(

GL to those still running.

Sorry you got caught up in my own accident :-[

Thanks for the company Andy, shame my engine blew could have been close all the way. Good luck to yourself and all still running.

Great driver and great series in his honour. It was a pleasure to drive with you Malcolm.

Thank you Ronniepeterson, ( never thought in my lifetime I'd ever be saying that ;-)

Really disappointed with myself as I had resolved to take things very easy a make sure I got a finish but went into 4th instead of second entering Lavant corner, ran wide into the sandpit, game over!

Thanks again to everyone for setting this all up and for taking part.

Looking forwards to meeting as many of the GPLers as possible at Goodwood next month.

Will check in again in a bit to catch up on the results.

Malc :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Robert Fleurke on August 25, 2015, 10:56:43 PM +0100
Really have to apologize to Malcolm rearending him twice in practise nota bene. Didn't intend to, just got caught out, being on good laps. No excuse, but had trouble getting a clean lap and took too much risks hoping the racing line would be clear.

4 laps before the end I got a screenfreeze. Still it was fun. Later more.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: malgrips on August 25, 2015, 11:17:55 PM +0100
Really have to apologize to Malcolm rearending him twice in practise nota bene. Didn't intend to, just got caught out, being on good laps. No excuse, but had trouble getting a clean lap and took too much risks hoping the racing line would be clear.

4 laps before the end I got a screenfreeze. Still it was fun. Later more.

No problem Robert, I'm afraid I was a bit like a Rabit in the headlights and probably should have moved over a bit quicker :( sorry to hear you didn't get to finish.

Malc :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: bagrupp on August 26, 2015, 08:18:08 AM +0100
I also blew my engine :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Robert Fleurke on August 26, 2015, 02:21:19 PM +0100
Despite Pole didn't get a good clean lap, really aimed for low 15, but then again P1 is P1, even when it was very close.

Start was difficult with a taller 1st gear for the last chicane. Pelle had his usual dragster start, but since I had the inside there was no way for him to go by. Tristan was on the outside, and I lost grip and slid in front of him at Madgwick Corner, was a bit hesistant picking up the throttle, but Tristan and Pelle did a great job not running into me. That was the closest of starts and T1 you can get. Very exciting actually.

Early on thought Pelle would hang on or be faster, Tristan again discoed or had a screenfreeze. But ran really consistent without real fast laps. Still having problems in taking Woodcote consistently. But was able to stretch the gap since Pelle made a few mistakes, and then got a screenfreeze 4 laps before the end, which was not unexpected...grats to Tim, and Doni and Clive for podium. When others have problems, you need to be there at the end ;)

Was a great series, with full grids, at great tracks. Won 4 races, but it doesn't draw a realistic picture. Pelle, Bob and Tristan could/should have won some races as well; and Iestyn had all sorts of issues apart from Snetterton. Had one runaway win at Brands, which is a very good track for me, but for the rest it was pretty much close racing.

It is a great honour to win the fourth Joe Shaw Memorial Trophy Series. Looking forward to next years tribute to Joe. Thank you Billy, Axel and Jethro for organizing. Thanks to Malcolm being involved in the races. Thanks all for competing. :)

PS: nice picture of Joe and Malcolm, I presume, in the Mini Cooper.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on August 26, 2015, 11:32:43 PM +0100
Excellent series & thanks to all those who took part. I haven't totalled the points but congratulations to Robert for retaining the title.

Also great to have Malcolm on track with us. I found GPL massively difficult when I first started (still do most days) but with some dogged persistence the times will start to come down. You are more than welcome to join us for Season 29, even if its just to dip in for the odd race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: malgrips on August 27, 2015, 03:30:10 PM +0100
Excellent series & thanks to all those who took part. I haven't totalled the points but congratulations to Robert for retaining the title.

Also great to have Malcolm on track with us. I found GPL massively difficult when I first started (still do most days) but with some dogged persistence the times will start to come down. You are more than welcome to join us for Season 29, even if its just to dip in for the odd race.

Thank you very much Billy. It was an honor to be able to share the track with you all. I'm definitely going to come back next season but will concentrate on the 1965 Amateur class to start with as I need to get used to the online environment before I step up again to the bigger class. If I can get the hand to eye and lack of bum coordination sorted I should be better placed to give you guys a bit more of a run for your money. Should only take about ten thousand hours practice ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Pelle_B on August 27, 2015, 05:32:55 PM +0100
Grats to the podium & the two last survivors  :thumbup2:

Pelle had his usual dragster start, but since I had the inside there was no way for him to go by. Tristan was on the outside, and I lost grip and slid in front of him at Madgwick Corner, was a bit hesistant picking up the throttle, but Tristan and Pelle did a great job not running into me. That was the closest of starts and T1 you can get. Very exciting actually.

Yes RF....this was a horror of the best I tried everything to get past - little grass, pressure & more - 2xCooper was too much & the track is not wide enough...but wildly exciting, damn good race.  :thumbup1:

Of course - after I froze - I downloaded server replay to see the situation again, but...freezes again exactly the same place as in the race. First car view & afterwards on TV1.

 Too bad...but perhaps a fitting way to end th


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Baab on August 27, 2015, 08:21:16 PM +0100
I quite like this track but only raced here once before, in a 65 Honda (which would probably put a present day Mclaren to shame  :P ), so a new experience in the full fat machines.

I wasn't able to trouble the top guys, even with my car advantage and at the start fell back a bit with Mr Muttram right on mt tail!  He was probably relieved when I got my braking wrong at the end of the back straight, as I'm sure I was holding him up.  That was my biggest issue though and quite a few laps later I was chasing him after I assume he had a few moments.  Not sure I could've mounted a serious challenge but with 5 to go I was disco'd.  I've been having massive issues with Win7 crashing to blue screen and am contemplating the free upgrade to Win10, anyone running that with GPL?  But this time it was only GPL that crashed.  I also had another disco during qual, so assume it's a track issue.

Thanks to the guys for running the event, I enjoyed it.  Good to have you racing with us Malcolm.

Cheers,

Bob.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: EvilClive on August 27, 2015, 08:53:05 PM +0100
I think Billy produced a great series for the JSM this year.
His format gave us full grids and closely contested racing, with Robert setting the pace out front and securing the trophy for a second year.
The rest of us had some superb racing around iconic British tracks with many closely fought battles, a fitting tribute for Joe.

Thanks to everyone who supported this series right down to the last laps of the final race. :thumbup2:

Like Billy and many others I felt honoured to share the tracks with Malcolm. But I think it was extremely brave of Malcolm to make his GPL debut in such fast company and in the 67's which are the original and the hardest to master. I would agree with Billy and I'm sure just about everyone else who has raced in GPL..it sure ain't easy to begin with the 67's!!.

I'm sure you will enjoy the 65's Malcolm, they are pure fun to drive and don't bite you in the a** backside like the 67's.

See you at Goodwood Malcolm.
  



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: DLogan on August 27, 2015, 09:34:17 PM +0100
...you will enjoy the 65's Malcolm, they are pure fun to drive and don't bite you in the a** backside like the 67's...

+eleventy-seven. Sooo much easier to save when you get discombobulated.

That being said, try your best to keep the slip angle below 90 degrees. Trust me on that.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 27, 2015, 10:17:37 PM +0100
But this time it was only GPL that crashed.  I also had another disco during qual, so assume it's a track issue.

It's a well known track issue Bob - Infact I had my first offline lock up while practising for the race so was actually quite surprised to make it to the end.
Even more surprised that I managed to win after the Disco's up front!

Bob got me mildly worried at one point towards the end as due to some mistakes on my part I dropped back, that plus the overheated tires meant I was pretty sure he was still slowly reeling me in which left me with very little margin for error.
While it's not my preferred method for winning races his screen freeze did at least take some pressure off for me!


Thankyou to everyone who raced in the series - Such decently sized grids and levels of racing certainly did Joe's memory a great service.


Oh, and regarding slip angle I'll leave this here for Dean, 90 degrees is fine - you can go much further ;)
https://youtu.be/Cr2Y1PLFw4Y (https://youtu.be/Cr2Y1PLFw4Y)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: malgrips on August 28, 2015, 07:19:01 AM +0100
I think Billy produced a great series for the JSM this year.
His format gave us full grids and closely contested racing, with Robert setting the pace out front and securing the trophy for a second year.
The rest of us had some superb racing around iconic British tracks with many closely fought battles, a fitting tribute for Joe.

Thanks to everyone who supported this series right down to the last laps of the final race. :thumbup2:

Like Billy and many others I felt honoured to share the tracks with Malcolm. But I think it was extremely brave of Malcolm to make his GPL debut in such fast company and in the 67's which are the original and the hardest to master. I would agree with Billy and I'm sure just about everyone else who has raced in GPL..it sure ain't easy to begin with the 67's!!.

I'm sure you will enjoy the 65's Malcolm, they are pure fun to drive and don't bite you in the a** backside like the 67's.

See you at Goodwood Malcolm.
  

Totally agree, it was a great series and thank you Billy and everyone who joined in.

Had a go with a 65 Brabham BT11 around Goodwood and was consistently lapping as fast as I managed in the BT24 on maybe one lap! Still got to find 5 seconds to get near to what Tim Muttram and Joe were doing in the "Mods vs Rockers Fun Race" from Goodwood in 2010 ( I think). My favorite Race, real world or virtual of all time :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: francesco on August 28, 2015, 07:34:11 AM +0100
Where is the final classification?Is Robert the winner?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: FullMetalGasket on August 28, 2015, 02:14:02 PM +0100
Had a go with a 65 Brabham BT11 around Goodwood and was consistently lapping as fast as I managed in the BT24 on maybe one lap! Still got to find 5 seconds to get near to what Tim Muttram and Joe were doing in the "Mods vs Rockers Fun Race" from Goodwood in 2010 ( I think). My favorite Race, real world or virtual of all time :)

Thanks Malcolm, I just had to watch the entire replay again to remember that one fully!
I'm really quite embarrassed to have forgotten the 2 abreast through the chicane moment we had, that was a true mark of Joe's ability that we pulled it off and left one another enough room.

It makes me realise I have some practice to be doing as I don't think I'm quite at that level any more!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: malgrips on August 28, 2015, 05:18:01 PM +0100
Had a go with a 65 Brabham BT11 around Goodwood and was consistently lapping as fast as I managed in the BT24 on maybe one lap! Still got to find 5 seconds to get near to what Tim Muttram and Joe were doing in the "Mods vs Rockers Fun Race" from Goodwood in 2010 ( I think). My favorite Race, real world or virtual of all time :)

Thanks Malcolm, I just had to watch the entire replay again to remember that one fully!
I'm really quite embarrassed to have forgotten the 2 abreast through the chicane moment we had, that was a true mark of Joe's ability that we pulled it off and left one another enough room.

It makes me realise I have some practice to be doing as I don't think I'm quite at that level any more!

It's an absolute classic dice. I watch it quite often. I hope I can somewhere near that level one day :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: EvilClive on August 28, 2015, 09:59:26 PM +0100
Did anyone else notice that Malcolm is officially a "Light"????!! he even has it displayed on the front of his Mini!!!! :o :o :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 01, 2015, 10:05:55 PM +0100
If my maths is correct the finals league table for this series reads;
1st - Rob Fleurke - 41 pts
2nd - FMG - 22 pts
3rd - Iestyn - 21 pts
4th - Doni - 15 pts
5th - Cookie - 14 pts
6th- Andy L – 7 pts
6th - Evil - 7 pts
8th - Pelle - 5 pts
9th - Magic Arsouille - 4 pts
10th - Ronnie P - 3 pts
10th - Phil Thorton – 3 pts
10th - An Gex – 3 pts
13th - Baab - 2 pts
13th - Franceso – 2pts
15th - Samb - 1 pt

Congratulations to Robert on retaining this very prestigious title.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: EvilClive on September 01, 2015, 10:29:19 PM +0100
Congratulations Robert, you set a very high benchmark for the rest of us to aim for.  A fitting performance to remember Joe .

and another name plate on the trophy!!!

You are going to have to come and collect it from Malcolm at Goodwood sometime!!!


Huge thanks to all of those who filled the grids and made this series such a success. ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: malgrips on September 09, 2015, 07:12:20 PM +0100
Hi all

It's Goodwood Revival time again and we are heading off tomorrow to get setup for this years fundraising efforts. This year it's in support of the RAF Benevolent Fund a worthy cause indeed.

Come and find us at the RBF airstream on the outside of the track not far from the Goodwood shop and the pedestrian tunnel to the paddock area. We are running our charity vintage sweet stall again this year and have some exclusive Goodwood Revival Rock on offer :)

Joes sister Amelia is coming down on the Saturday and Sunday this year and we are bringing the JSMT Trophy too so would love to see any GPLers as we can and raise a glass or too in the process.

Best regards and hope to see you all at some point soon

M :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: EvilClive on September 09, 2015, 08:20:04 PM +0100
There will be a few of us there this year Malcolm and we will drop in to see you on Friday, and any other time that you need help raising those heavy glasses.





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: malgrips on September 09, 2015, 08:48:02 PM +0100
Hi Clive, sounds great to me :)

You could probably get me on Facebook Messenger or txt to sort out the times. I think I might have your mobile no from last year too :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Robert Fleurke on September 10, 2015, 12:04:37 AM +0100
Have a great time guys, and great to hear the JSMT will be brought as well. It's a real shame I can't make it, but I'm hoping and will be trying to make next year's edition. My finances are even worse than last year I'm afraid... (lost a courtcase)

Again, it's an honour to have my name on the Trophy.

Cheers! :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 28 (2015) - Goodwood - Aug 25
Post by: Cookie on September 11, 2015, 04:26:08 PM +0100
Livestream from Goodwood!

https://grrc.goodwood.com/goodwood-revival/revival-social-stream#JACPdPexiBkpeKtC.97