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Practice: ~18:40 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 19:40 (20 mins)
Race: 20:00 (16 laps)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr), Jaguar D-Type (1957 only) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Maserati 450S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s), Aston Martin DBR2 (includes GTC-65 class fix) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr2), Ferrari 375 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_375plus)
New Car: Mercedes 300SLR Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_merc_300slr)

Track: Linus Montlhery (Quatrieme circuit 4.837miles) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_montlhery)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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Special Notes: Cuts off. Ignore the cones and drive the banked turn ignoring the silly chicanes.

Note the earlier than usual start time

Planning to spend a week at No 1 Daughter's so will be giving this one a miss.

New car added to race announcement  :thumbup1:

 :thumbup2:

Hope to be at home that evening...

Is this a new version of the Merc or the one we normally use in the Fifties Sprints?

Edit: just looked at the download, it is a new car.

Hi Tony,
 When you say "Ignore the cones and drive the banked turn ignoring the silly chicanes." does that also include the 1st chicane on the entry to the banking or only the other 2?

Thanks in advance

TTFN
John.

Yes, that includes ignoring the first chicane

If we are going through the chicanes on the high bank, is there any way to turn off the cut messages and get lap times practicing off line.  Man that high bank is treacherous for me.  Not a full throttle corner like Meadowdale was.  Could be a interesting race........

Bob M.

Untick flag rules under Realism to stop cuts. Unfortunately the AI don't understand this and will travel along their pre-programmed route.

BTW I take it on full chap  8)

Thx Tony.  I remember I have heard that before, just a senior moment,  having more and more of them lately.  The other night the wife and I were going over to some friends for a card party and I day dreamed through a turn.  With some quick thinking I said I wanted to check out some Christmas decorations ahead, I think she bought it....

Bob M.

Are both Maserati engines eligible for the race?

oooooooooo! i do hope so!!! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

I have not even downloaded the circuit yet, but hoping for a quiet day on Sunday and a chance for some "me time"  :D

Of course Sir. Generally I will always state if there are exceptions to the permitted cars at races  ;)

Looks like this place is tailor-made for the Maseratis, so I will take the Aston!

Yikes, just realised that this race is on Monday too  :eek:

Muat get cracking with practice methinks..

Cheers,
Erling

Can't seem to do that - it's greyed out  ???

Cheers,
Erling

on or offline?

Offline.  Tried changing it in the .PLR file instead.  Have edited it with regards to fuel usage for every endurance race earlier without problems, but this time something went wrong.  FFB and wheel effects are all screwed up, no matter how many times I dig out an earlier .PLR file, which should be unaffected  :(

So bigger problems right now than the flag rules unfortunately.

Cheers,
Erling

Back in business again.  Had to go back to my DFP settings copy of my PLR file and basically start from scratch again with setting up my G27.

Also managed to turn off flag rules in the .PLR file, as I originally intended.

Have tested the new Merc and quite like it (but dunno yet if it can compete with the Masser on this track).  Have problems under braking though, where it veers left or right seemingly on its own whim.  Anyone have any setup tips to counter this ?  If a car wants to swap ends under braking, I can often tame that via coast diff and/or brake balance, but this problem is more of a challenge.

Cheers,
Erling

Interesting you said that Erling. Having installed the advanced setup add-on for the BMW race, I noticed that the Aston has different rear spring options left to right. Not sure if it is deliberate or an error by the car developer, but it may make it react differently when turning left to when turning right!

Good spot Geoffers. It also applies to the Jag D-Type. Typo or developers cunning?

Sorry guys... but I can't run with us tonight  :(

Have fun and good luck all!

Well, that all went rather well. :)

I had toyed with taking the big Maserati and could turn in laps 2 seconds faster than with the 375 but unfortunately the tyres went off a cliff after about 11 laps so decided that the 375 was the way to go here.

Start was a bit messy, Saw the front 2 make contact and I nudged ccstevecc trying to avoid it all so slowed and let him back past. more trouble for some near the end of the lap and I found myself in 4th from 8th on the grid so well chuffed at the point though I knew it could not last and sure enough Matt came steaming through shortly afterwards dropping me down a spot and then promptly spun and gave it me back again., then ATI got through and I made a place at ccstevecc's expense so still 4th. Had some great close racing early on with ccstevecc and ATI I was over the Maserarti like a rash in the corners but it felt like I had left the handbrake on once we hit the straights. ATI slowly pulled out a gap but it was obvious something was amiss by the smoke screen I was having to drive through and sure enough he lost it exiting the banked section and I was through to 3rd then found Clive facing the wrong way a few 100 yds further on and I was suddenly 2nd a fair way behind Ziu with a healthy lead over coyote but it was not to last and the big Mazza drew closer at and alarming rate and I knew it was only a matter of time and sure enough he passed me a few laps later but the more nimble 375 took the place back before being passed again on the straight only to retake 2nd again later in the lap. Finally my worst fears were realised when he was in front entering the banking and he left me in his dust. Still a podium!!! better than I had any right to expect. Then 2 laps from home and I found Coyote and Zui recovering from contact and found myself racing Zui down to the last hairpin. I made myself very large in his mirrors and he spun allowing me through. The last 2 laps were about managing the gap, I knew he was faster than me but I also knew I had been very kind to my tyres so all I had to do was keep it on the track which is what happened.

So, only a Christmas special but I was physicaly drained at the end of it, most fun I've had with my clothes on for a long time.

Shame I made such a pigs ear of Fuji..

TTFN
John.

Technical difficulties with the results from this race. Will post them as soon as we are able to.

EDIT: Replay and results now posted  :sweatdrop:

Congrats to Geoffers who is the fairy on top of the tree  ;)

New boy Jeep takes 2nd

and Erling comes a close 3rd.

Next years will be one race. Slap me hard if I suggest anything different  :wetfish:

Politely declined an invite to see an old friend (of the fair sex no less  :o), so I could do these races.  In retrospect, after seeing the outcome, I should have forgotten about the races and accepted the invite..  ;)

Surprised to be on pole in this race. Notoriously difficult to start in the Monster Masser and sure enough a couple of cars slipped past.  Felt I got pushed and bumped at the start and accidentally tapped Geoffer's car. Sent him into the wall and then into a somersault.  Almost didn't wait, as I was sure someone else had pushed me, but glad I did - the replay shows it to be my own fault entirely. Very sorry Geoff; my car fishtailed ever so slightly, causing me to veer off course and hit your car.  :(

Waited and found myself 10th and last. Started the chase, with little prospect of a good finishing position.  Passed Kurt digging himself out of a sandbox, and subsequently Geoffers & Tony on the straight, thus up to 7th.

Caught Matt just before what would become my nemesis with this car/track combo:  The lefthander with the tarmac'ed runoff area, just after passing the tower on the right. Unbelievably how early you had to brake in this car to negotiate that turn. Was approaching Matt's car way too fast under braking, and could either take him out or ditch myself. Picked the latter, more gentlemanly option. Flew past him and into the corner of the runoff area. Back to 9th then, as Tony and Geoffers sailed past.

On with the chase again. Tony made it easy when he spun ahead of me, and Geoffers next lost the rear in a corner, this time entirely without my assistance  ;)
Next passed a stationary Ati & Clive and was up to 5th. Further down the straight, I passed Matt & Steve. With 3rd, things were suddenly looking up.

However, when I caught Jeep in 2nd, the farce started in earnest. Passed him on the straight, but later that lap my nemesis; that confounded corner caught me out again. Overshot and Jeep went past. A repeat of the previous lap followed:  I caught him at the banking and passed him on the straight.  Left the door too open at the hairpin after the straight, and Jeep slipped past again!  Thus for the THIRD time, I had to catch him at the banking and pass him down the straight.  Quite comical..  :) This time I kept the lines tight through the twisties and retained 2nd.

Reeled in Ziu over the following laps, catching him at my nemesis, which got me once again!!  :taz:  Couldn't stop in time and hit his car, sending it into a somersault (What is it with these Astons and somersaults..)  Very sorry about that Ziu :(  Waited for him to get going again, and that let Jeep through too.  As I set off, the rear kicked viciously out, sending me far into the grass.  Rejoined only to have the combined effect of uneven tyre wear and dirty tyres make me lose it under braking, ending up in a kitty litter.

Matt passed before I could dig myself out, so I ended up between him & Steve.  Now the final lap.  Passed Matt again down the straight, but ran wide in one of the following corners. That stopped my car, so both Matt & Steve got past. Traction out of the corners was so bad now, that I could not catch and pass them before the race ended, despite the extra power of my Masser version.

From Pole to last, to 2nd knocking on first, and down to 5th again.  Quite a roller coaster ride, which unfortunately ended in a dip..  :-\

Grats to the podium and all ahead.  Apologies to those I hit and/or held back through the corners.

Cheers,
Erling

Glad you guys had a good one, gutted missed this race just to late to join.

First of all what an iconic track to race these beasts upon. Thankyou Tony  :thumbup1:

The track I sort of knew from GPL, although braking distances are far greater and we always use those stupid chicanes, just before and halfway around the banking.

It was my intention to use the Mighty Mazzer around here, if any track was correct for that monster this was it. I did a few practice laps and although I could extract a 1:23 on race fuel, it was brown trouser time and the smell of burning rubber was overpowering!!! In a moment of reason I decided that this car, in my hands, and with my aggressive right foot, would not last the race.

So what else was there in Santa's sack??  Tried the Aston but although it was respectably quick on the timing screens, it just did not feel fast.

Opted for the Fezza 375 and played with the setup in an attempt to preserve the tyres. This made the car about 2 secs slower than what I had blitzed with the Maserati, but the car was much more controllable and stable.
Quite suprised to get 3rd on the grid with so many Mazzers running and when the flag dropped I saw 1st place beckon me as Erling bogged down and Geoffers hesitated. There was a gap between them and I had hooked up the Ferrari just right....then I remembered how the track narrowed just after the start. There was no doubt in my mind that I had the momentum to complete the launch into 1st place, but my brain told me that time and space constrictions were not going to allow it!
So I chickened out :scared: :scared: and dropped back just behind the leading two. When they touched ( which would have made me the filling in a very large sandwich had I kept my foot down!) I was convinced that I was going to be involved, but by a fluke they both kept to the left and I had a clear track ahead. Invitations like that do not come often and I grabbed the chance and pushed hard.

After a few laps the field behind sorted itself out and Ziu started to close the gap. I managed to check his advance at about 3 secs gap, but the readout on screen was a little random, showing 6 secs and 2 moments later 2.5 secs. he was much better on the brakes into Erlings favourite corner and was taking chunks out of me there that I had to win back elsewhere. I agree with Erling about the braking distance for that corner. I was braking as I passed the white shed some 500mtrs back, if I wanted to make the corner without drama!!

For many laps I was able to just hold a gap back to Ziu until I looked up at the readout for the gap as I crossed the S/F line ( bad idea!  :( ) That moments distraction cost me dearly as I looked back at the road just in time to realise I was going to hit the pit exit barriers!!
The rsultant spin was quite spectacular and di nothing to improve the cars performance for the rest of the race. but the worst thing was that I had left the chat window showing and it took me about 10secs to work out why I could not restart the engine!! By that time almost everyone had passed me, stopped for a cooked breakfast and a massage before leaving me 15 secs adrift!!

The car was now slower and I could not manage better than 2:29 laps so I trollied on to the finish and the only excitement was catching Geoffers on the last lap as he struggled with slick tyres I think. My tyres were fine, the setup had worked, but my driving was at fault.

Great race guys and grats to Jeep on a superb debut race. All good fun

Enjoyed the Lias race hugely. was a bit faster in the 5.7 Masser, but I had some good fun with the smaller one at previous events, it wasn't as fast on the
straights but was less cumbersome through the twisties. SHould have (as always) done more practice, as my setup worked fine at the start but was struggling
for rear grip big styley by the end. Got shunted off at Erling's fave corner once in the first lap, could have been the second, and lost some places
but then had great fun with Steve, and  others. kept passing Steve after my offs, but nearly took us both out on the banking once... I had managed to hold back
just enough and get a tow on the following straight, but on one lap I stayed underneath, or tried to , but the car shot up towards the top right under his nose  :o
no contact, but appologies for any brown stains.

Could not get in to the Fuji race. Not sure why yet, but I think it might be related to a big Win10 update which went on for 1/2 hour. Before it I could join my
test server runing Fuji, and could join the main server running Linas no trouble, but my XD had stopped working, and I was unable to buy any cars. I had all the tracks
and could run cars that I already owned but as the M1 was a new install I couldn't buy any. I had dyn wotsit, so I createda new driver, registered him
and now I could drive any of the M1s but the "buy" option was greyed out. Joined the server ok at first, but then Tony called for a rejoin, and everytime It got to
"Loading ATi" I dropped to desktop. Ati kindly changed cars, But I had tried 5 cars by then so was unlikely to be that. then on the last attempt it dropped me while loading
Steve. My problem so sat it out. I had earlier joined witha few on no problem, so is a mystery. I am hoping the same thing will not happen at tommorow's F1 event.

I am reinstlalling the DX redist again, and the latest XD. I will see if I can figure what is up. I am rapidly losing patience with Win10 so far it has just been a broken verion
of Win7, there is absolutley nothing, not one single tiny thing that is an improvement for me. The start menu is horrible, it sometimes doesn't see USB and I have to reboot
twice, it doesn't have drivers for my (not very old)printer, and it can't see the DVD drive on one machine, which boots to Linux and everything works perfectly.

Don't know if this will help your woes Matt but set everything to run as administrator. And some folk set compatability to XP SP2 as well.

Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_VlI4NHZSbmJRTG8?ltmpl/index.html)

Voilà  :)

Yep I had to do that Tony. I just started up P&G and it wanted a serial as well. I think Win10 update has blown some stuff away.

Thank you as always Kurt. You and Jose provide this organisation with invaluable assistance and it is appreciated  :thumbup1:

I'd never driven a Massa before and having spent the whole season reading everyones comments about its fire-breathing performance I wasn't sure if it would suit my driving style, particularly on this track. But I couldn't resist the temptation and opted for the lighter 4.5l version, hoping it would manage the bends better than the 5.7l car.

I always worry when I start mid-grid and within seconds was wishing I had qualied at the back when I was shunted into the barriers. Not knowing who was involved, a quick front-end check saw only a broken light so carried on, to see Jeep ahead and slowing as if to let me pass, which I did (thanks Jeep, having seen your comment earlier), a racing incident ivo what was going on around us :)

I haven't seen the replay yet, but from memory I remember being overtaken quite a few times (a normal experience), but also doing some overtaking of my own (edge-of-the-seat-excitement here). I had a few high speed chases down the main straight, particularly with Matt who always got the better of me in the braking zones ( my excuse this being my first Massa drive ;)

A great deal of yo-yoing with positions seemed to be going on behind and particularly ahead of me, so I thought just ignore others' mishaps and maintain the momentum to the end.

There were several position changes between myself, Matt and Erling towards the end, with me finally keeping ahead to streak over the line for 3rd place, just a gnats whisker ahead of them.

Grats to newboy John the Jeep for the win and Zui for 2nd. This was only my second podium finish, yet my excitement was totally lost on wifey who couldn't get her head round a man of my age getting so excited over an online race, but we know better, don't we! ;)