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Round two folks!
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Booking: From 19:15 (BST) (60 mins)
Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qual: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 (16 Laps, approx 30 mins)

Cars allowed:
BMW E30 Grp A

Track: Zandvoort GP
Time of Day Setting: 16:00
Weather: Mid Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=97
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=25
SESSION_TRANSFER=60

Damage: 70%

Server: simracing.org.uk
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

All drivers must be booked in to race before booking closes at 20:15 UK time.

IMPORTANT:
-The PLP app VERSION 1.5 - not used for this series

-BMW E30 skin pack required (You don't have to install but everyone else will be In stock skins from where you sit)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/baj1zjazybfaj4q/skins.rar?dl=0

unzip to your:-
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\bmw_m3_e30_gra\skins


Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
(3) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct Assetto Corsa 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby

Updated my install to ver 1.3.2 last night. Liking the new tyre model, but now PLP (and all other third party apps) no longer show up in game for me. A recognised problem apparently, and installing this: http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/track-map-display.3508/download?version=12191 (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/track-map-display.3508/download?version=12191) has fixed it for some. Not for me though. Ran out of time last night, and I'll take another look at it later, but anyone got any tips to get it working again in the meantime?

Apparently PLP has been updated for AC 1.3 compatibility, download from http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/a-pit-lane-penalty-app-for-repeated-track-cutting-1-6.17852/ Sorry no idea on the others

Post 1 updated, PLP not required for this series, let's focus on the racing  :) I will watch the replay after and act as race steward for any blatant cutting or incidents. :detective:

Who is doing the math when it comes to amount of laps  :P. Either he needs to go back to school, or he is really fast and can do 19 laps in 30 minutes here  :o

Erm that be me, I figured you aliens can do 1.58/59 laps possibly 1.57? as I managed 2.00 dead with only a handful of laps and race fuel  :-\

1800/117=15.4 laps

19*117/60=37 mins

I did a 1:55 offline, but that is still nowhere near 30 minutes, and I can only do that lap once, not 19 times in a row  :P


The smart kid off the class has spoken  :laugh:

I can only blame pre morning coffee mathematics  :-[
Shall we say 15 laps then?

Ps first post updated with race banner  :)

I would say 16 laps, better to be a bit over the time, than going short.  :)

Done  :)

If anyone finds the secret to getting heat in the tyres of these cars, please share with the class  ;D I'm tempted to exaggerate the camber but when I chatted to a guy running an E30 cup car at Snetterton he said they generally run -3 camber..I'm already slightly over that.  :-\

Pre-heat the oven at 220 C, then in the oven for 20 minutes, and you should be alright.

Don't think you can get any heat in them, and if you do, next short straight it is gone again. Costs too much wear to scrub them hot I think. Eventhough they are cold, they still feel alright-ish.

Just to say, hard tyre trick doesn't work anymore as not being able to heat them cost you even more with graining.

Little tip - do not chase the way to heat tyres, go for optimum pressure (39 psi) ...

jumped online for some extra practise this eve and tweaking to the car.  Knocked another 1.5 secs off my laptimes, now into the mid 1:58's with full race fuel and meds on the lower grip server.  :) Still more tweaking to do to get anywhere near the crazy fast Dutchmen  :P

Front splitter doesn't seem to make any difference  :-\ tried 1,2 & 3 but didn't notice any improvement in turn in or understeer.

Anyone know of a good app for setting the ride height? Always seems complete guess work for all the cars. ???

I put an advert up at Kunos and No-grip sites over the weekend to see if we can drum up more drivers, more the merrier! Also spread the word if you guys race elsewhere  :)

Jeez, another alien then? Did some laps on the server yesterday eve and could not break the 2.03s mark. But i am nice and consistent, so i am looking to be fighting at the back of the field. ;)

However i was joined by player Sien, who i've never seen before. Was driving similar laptimes, so invited him to join this gang.

Would be good to now when other people are on-line mostly for some practice sessions, it is more fun then being on my own out there and just turning up for the race i guess.

I've crept into the 57's now after a bit more tweaking  :)

Noticed the weekend update had some updates to the tyre model. I'm getting tad warmer fronts now which is good but rears stay cold despite it being rear wheel drive  :-\

There were a couple of names practising for the Doni round who didn't show on race night, hopefully they turn up this week  :)

Current server is set with only 92% grip  :o

That's too low unless we are trying to replicate wintry conditions on the Dutch coast! These cars are skittish enough with cool tyres. Shouldn't it be set to 96%?

Am going to try and join you this week. But i cant seem to see my old setups for this car, any one have a decent one i can try?

Just to get you in the mood  :) turn your volume up

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U12zvBjVZ7k

And some onboard in an E30

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1XV19coFmAw

Spanner, pm me your email and you can try my setup.


ps..ive added Animal Eds skin to the skinpack on my dropbox (first post) for new drivers, but if you already have the skinpack, grab Eds skin here:- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwjSkCqTw1UGQjlQRVlKbVlad1E/view?usp=sharing

Not sure how you got 92% as the server's CFG file had 96% in it. However it also had randomness of 2 (I didn't even know this value was acceptable) and it appears in my bank of presets at least 1 other have 2 for randomness as well, although most are fine. This is the asServerManager making things up, I have never set randomness value to 2. I've fixed the server, and set the base grip to 97% as per MJ's race announcement, so I'll be interested to here if the grip is not 97%.

Cheers Picnic, I'm no expert on the grip levels settings, I just grabbed a previously used percentage, so if others have a recommended one, do please shout up  :)

What gear set are yo using Mark? ???

Gear set 1 - 8/40. Not ideal as your a little below the peak revs in some parts of the track but 9/40 hits the limiter on the s/f straight and unsettles the car a bit too much for my liking in some corners. I tried several gear combos but settled back on my chosen one each time. Hth  :)

Will test yours, as I am running 2 9/40 right now. Also not ideal in some corners, and on the straight I won't be able to slipstream, as I just reach the limit on my own at the end.

I think it depends on the transfer from session to session, but I was in quali at that time. So if the setting is with start 96% and a randomness of 2, than practice could start with 94% and if that's taken straight to quali and again with random of 2, it's very good possible to have 92% in quali  :o

Mark, I saw your question about MoTec on AC support forum ... just use "ride height" channels.

Since I don`t know how much you are "in" with MoTec, this is explanation how I did that:

First create new worksheet and call it bottoming (or whatever) ...

In new worksheet, add time/distance graph ( I have graph for each corner to avoid mess)

There is three ways to have arranged data:
1. all channels in one group (mess)
2. add 2 groups for front and rear and use appropriate channels
3. add 4 groups for each corner of car

This will not give you exact answer about bottoming (need some math expressions) but it is good enough to have idea.

Cheers Ed, will look into it. I used to use it back in gtr2 days but been a few years since I last did, so lot of refreshing to do!
Ride height has bugged me in AC since the beginning as seems no way to know if the car is bottoming out and/or ideal ride height setting to clear kerbs in chicanes etc. Especially also on a bumpy track like this one.

Theoretically it should be ok because this is calculated value from collider (collision box that simulate bottom of the car in AC) to the ground.

Grip is quite a challenge to get right.. Because not only do we have % but also airtemp plays a role now.

In testing 100% grip was considered realistic grip and the weather was set to clear and 26 ambient. Between 12:00 and 15:00 gives the most grip, earlier or later times in the day see lower tenps so not as much grip.

You can have 100% grip but 5 ambient and it will be slippy.

Personally. I would just leave it at 100% and just change the time and/or the ambient to alter the grip levels.. Unless you change weather to foggy etc then you can lower the % to suit.

Honestly, i would get rid of dynamic track changes too, waste of time imo.

Interesting reading, thanks Chris. Must admit I quite like the dynamic track rubbering in, why do you think it's not worth having?
Re, time of day, only reason we set in later in the day sometimes is to get a nicer bit of ambient lighting I think, have done p&g races in the past when a setting sun looks superb on the grid.
I did a gt3 race at spa a few weeks ago and it was set to light fog and got to say it looked very atmospheric  8)

I like the concept, but its too much if a hassle to get right, it doesnt rubber in realistically unless you spend a lot if time testing it out and even then if one person or 2 drops out its going to change the outcome.. It needs more work on kunos' side, until they implement what irAcing has done its always just going to be a gimick. Ontop of that with the new way the tyre heat up it can take 2/3 laps before your tyres are even at 100% grip, add that into the mix of changing track conditions and there is quite a lot to think about.

The only reason i say dont bother i because it takes too much time to get right.. There is nothing wrong with different grip levels say if its foggy or cloudy etc but for just having a 30 min race, id just leave it out personally..

I have just done exactly that in my next wed race, its foggy so ive set the grip to 98% and turned dynamic track off.. The way i set it up is as follows.. Randomly pick the weather.. Heavy fog 97%, light fog 98%, heavy and light cloud 99% and everything else 100%, then the time of day is randomised and that itself alters the grip levels.. Because dynamic track is turned off each combo will be different to drive, it adds into it an unknown factor, a challenge... Sure some days it might be 18:00 and the sun so low you cnt see some braking or turning in points... Some other days it will be heavy fog and early morning, its going to be slippy and chances are these weathers and times will fall onto a bloody hard to drive car, but then thats just sods law i guess lol.

Its not my season, so its not down to me, ive done it on mine because i think it adds more than what dynamic track has done in all the races ive done with it on. I think there are ways to make dynamic track work better and i might dabble with that at a later.

You choose what you enjoy... Listen to what people say but dont try please anyone but you, if you like it..then leave it as it is.

Race night gents  8)

Make this your view tonight
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Unless your an alien, as there will be less cars ahead of you  ;)

Or dog slow like me so everyone's driven away from you  :-[

I'd rather drive from the drivers seat ;)

I was thinking the same thing  ;D. If there is a stationary car on the grid when the lights go out, it's somebody who listened to MJ's advice.

I tried downloading this but I get "The file you’re looking for has been moved or deleted."

Hmm, had a look it's still in there, give me 5 mins and will post a new link to it.

here you go Sharky (also post 1 updated with skin link)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/baj1zjazybfaj4q/skins.rar?dl=0

Server up for bookings

Cheers Mark.

Probably bit too late to risk installing this, but it's got good reviews so I'll test it afterwards and report back.  :)

E30 sound mod
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/bmw-m3-e30-dtm-sound-mod-v-1-0-6-onboard-sounds-by-fonsecker.19763/

Qually is down as 1 minute :o !!!!

You'd better be quick out the pits then. ????

Sorry people - I blame whoever kept on jumping on the server while I was trying to set it up  ::)

Made a booking, but then was unable to join the server (no "join" button showing). Don't use AC much and I've probably forgotten the correct procedure, but I thought as long as you had made a booking you could join any time during practice/quall - is that correct?

Have a good one.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( I got on only to find fps at 15 to 20, bloody unplayable. Was looking forward to tonight as well, but checking the AC forum it's a problem many players have since the last update. Offline the game runs perfect so will have to re-install to see if that fixes it.  Think it's time over at Kunos they get things right.  Game was perfect on my PC until the last update. Rant over, hope you all had fun.

I just couldn't get a clean lap together in qually, ever lap had 1 scruffy sector, so I was pleased with pole.

Had an average start, and Erik got alongside. Not a fan of weaving right after the start, so I kept my line and basically left the door open. He got ahead in T1, so I opted to stay close.
But he pulled away in the next few laps, I was unable to keep up. Then in lap 3 I saw he went for softs. Strategy was to stay within a few seconds, and wait till his tyres dropped off. But they never did  ::).
Bit annoyed by that fact, as that means that there is no strategy involved from now on. Just slap on softs and go. Would have been nice to see softs fall off at the end, and see people on medium tyres catch up for an epic finale  :-\.

Erik almost messed up in the last lap, but he needs to work on that. You could have messed that up a whole lot better  ;).

I will need to work on my setup for the next race. The patch didn't really do wonders for me, or maybe it was the mediums, I don't know.

Grats anyway Erik, what gearing and wings were you on? You kept pulling away from me at corner exit (maybe again, due to the extra grip). I went for Mark's set 1 and 8/40, but I'm not sure about that. It felt racey, but I think the gaps are too big and the engine just doesn't have the torque for it.


Did you type in the password?

Thought I might have a good race but having chosen medium tyres like most of the field, I just couldn't get them to work for some reason. Was 2-3 seconds slower than on softs.

At the start I couldn't hear anything but other cars so had no idea what gear I was in or when to change. When did they change the mixing levels as the other cars and sound effects were so loud compared to my own engine?? Used to be perfect.

I changed gearing and that was about it for the setup, so maybe someone could point me to a better setup for this car as that really was a boring race? The car was amazingly dull to drive and having no one to race meant it was a chore to finish the last 14 laps.

Sorry Frex I had to restart the server due to typing incompetence (1 min qual session) :( In the good old days a server refresh and the join would be active again. Hopefully that's still the case.

UKAC ETCC season 1 replays (https://mega.nz/#F!qhABSIqL!D6sCRv46ItcKUIco4sYDQQ)

Sorry to hear two of you couldn't race through technical problems  :(. Frex was probably caught out by the server restart, not sure what's affected Bob as not been aware of any big issues from the update. ???

Good turnout tonight, thanks chaps  :thumbup1:

Really enjoyed qualifying. Set several new pb's in my pursuit of Erik(again!) but each time I went quicker so did he  :P great stuff. Was chuffed with an alien-esque 1:54  :)

Race: had my usual tardy start and got jumped by about 4 cars! Just don't know how any of you on the gs2 are getting off the line so quick. Nearly all my hard work undone except I still managed to slot back in 6th by turn 2. I was then able to slip by Chris and Simon by the end of the lap to 4th  :)
From then on I was a victim of my own success and had a solitaire race with only a fleeting glance of Ed ahead for most of the race. My tyres really wore late on and lap times dropped by a sec or so as my medium tyres were on 95% ! Lord knows how you got softs to last 30 minutes?!  :o
Finished 4th  :)

Big congrats to the Flying Dutchmen Erik in first, Jeff in 2nd and Ed a well earned 3rd.  :notworthy:

i had a very weird race.. for a start i was doing very low 55's all day today with mediums.. no issues at all.. got on tonight and i just couldnt get anywhere near, 2/3/4 seconds off every lap.. i checked the grip and it was 100.. i put it down to using an old setup but when i checked i was actually using the same as before.. so ive no idea what was going on.

after aobut 6 laps i was on 95% grip so i jsut drifted the latter half of the race.

Sorry Chris, I sprayed some wd40 on your tyres while you weren't looking  ;)
I struggled to get any heat in the mediums tonight, was ambient set lower? My race pace was about where I've been in practise but tyre wear was higher than I'd experienced.

I hadn't done a lap of practice till I logged on at 7:50pm, so just put hard tyres on for the race and wound the brake balance to the rear to try not to flat spot the fronts. by the end of the race I was starting to get a bit of a rhythm.

My tyre temp/wear app has disappeared, not entirely sure if it has coincided with the game update, it shows up in the setting menu as an app and it has been ticked. Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Start on cold tires was really cruel!
How do you guys, manage to go through the first few corners?  ???

The race was interesting for me until lap 6 when I clip the curb ( no excuse - me and only me) and go to play in sand.  tumbleweed
Luckily, didn't hit the inside fence so no damage but tires (???!!???) were completely different after that.

Despite being cleaned up, pressure and temperature back to "normal" and no loss of grip according to tire app, they felt like hard`s.
No grip at all.

Anyway, it was fun.

Congrats to Erik and Jeffrey on result, thanks to Mark for organizing series ... cya

Interesting to see the best lap times were around the 3rd.

I had an excellent tussle with Mark (aka Spanner) throughout the whole race. How we didn't touch I don't know. Every time we came to Tarzan at the end of the pit straight I was thinking that it could get very messy but it never did. Good racing mate!

This looked like a pretty good interpretation of the real Zandvoort track, at least i had the feeling i was actually racing there. Car felt nice to drive around here. Couldn't do more practice as i had visitors showing up. Nooooo!! Go away!!! :angel:

Slapped on mediums as i figured soft would not last. By the end they where showing 95%. At the start countdown the game put me in pitlane and as i did not see anybody in pit lane i thought it was kicking me from the server or something. Then i noticed the whole pack racing by onto turn one. AAARRGGHH! So that was a race all about slowly catching up. Got to race Picknik a bit and saw Marc and Chris up ahead, was reeling them in slowly, but never managed to get on their bumpers before race end. Had my fun, thanks for organising this event. Looking forward to Hockenheim.
Cheers,

You're way to fast if you say you messed up quali and still got it in 52s  :o

I did a test run on softs, a day before the race to see how they held and they did fall off after about 4 laps and gradually got down to 95%, but I could keep it going and only lost around 1s to 1.5s after that. I had an average of 56.5, but that was me alone on track and no increasing track grip, that stayed on 97%. When I run on mediums, my average was also 56.5, so I opted for the soft for the race and hope that a good start would help me get a gap, big enough to last to the end of the race.

When the race started and Jeffrey gave me the inside for turn one I was trying to get away as fast as possible. Nearly messed it up on turn 2, going over the inside kerb. Was surprised that I could stay ahead and even increase the gap to Jeffrey, with knowing his normal pace  ??? Had a slow moment when I got to SRW and had no clear point to pass, so I was happy I still had a better pace than Jeffrey to open up the gap again. That gap was surely needed when in the last lap the car didn't go to 3rd gear and I ended in the kittylitter  >:( Thankfully I was still close to the tarmac and had a straight line out (second time only where I used 2nd gear), seeing Jeffrey coming in very close and the only point I might have lost it was the chicane that came up right then.

I was on the same gear set 1-8/40, as that was the best option for me and aero 3 front 1 back. I did expect the second halve race battle (easy overtake), with the fast medium tyre drivers, but it never happened  ???

I don't think it's technically right that a set of softs should last for a half hour race  :-\ maybe it's because these cars are light. But then considering how easy it is to lock up the fronts then again i would expect softs to be in a bad way after 15-20 minutes of hard driving. Sounds like kunos need further tweaks to the tyre model.

To SRW, you need to reinstall the latest version of any apps you were running pre 1.3.

To Shark, you can't really turn up with no practise and no setup and then complain you had no one to race  :P
I was 4 secs a lap slower at beginning of the week compared to race night but I found those extra secs through some practise and setup tweaks  :) but your welcome to borrow my setup as several others did, but have found its quite different track to track based on the first two rounds.

Not seen the replay yet but good to hear some had good racing and if not for the two who couldn't get in, we would have had a healthier 13 on the grid  :)

I can and do EVERY week. :P I don't have any choice. I have the option to not race or race with no practice and I'd rather race without practice than not at all.

I'm experienced enough that I can pick up a decent enough pace fairly quickly with only 15 mins practice in any car (they nearly all work the same way, especially the tin-tops). I don't expect to be at the front and that's not why I race. I wouldn't be at the top even with a month of practice. Having done plenty of races with both Jeff and Erik I know for a fact they are way more talented than I am, no amount of practice will bridge the gap to them. My qualifying pace showed you don't need to practice to be competitive enough. In the 15 minutes we had I went from 2:02 to 1:57 (after I dumped my v1.1 setup and went to the default setup with gear ratios tweak) and knew where I could make a little bit more time.

I was in there at the back of the front half of the field with ChrisR, but he was 2-3 seconds a lap faster on mediums than me. Why? I had the same setup for qually as race (except fuel and tyres). 3 seconds slower on mediums versus soft is not right for me, it's normally about 1 second on for any car for each compound so to have lost that much pace due to mediums just ruined my race both competitively and the tyres making the car very boring which it wasn't in qually.

As for complaining about having no one to race. It doesn't matter whether you practice or not you can have lots, some or no one to race no matter what practice you had. You practiced but you still had no one to race. It's just a moan, it's not a directed complaint.

Do you have a link for me and I'll try and negotiate some more time for trying it. ;D

Gawd i dont know how you drove with those setups Eric and mark! Way too soft, which i guess helps the change of direction. And felt the gearing too short so kept on playing with and lengthing it but then felt too slow on the corners. strangely getting on the server and felt different and the 8/40 final drive seemed to work.

Happy with qually but just couldnt get happy with braking, and clearly nobody else did wit hteh plumes of smoke into the first corner!

Maybe your realistic starts are slowing you down MJ? I normally aim for middle of the rev range, engage first when the lights go green, allow the auto clutch to help then go full throttle. 2 pedal, paddle shifter here.

Interesting race stuck behind Sutol, I guess i'm pretty cautious, without too much confidence in the brakes i didnt want to try too hard, and normally if i do i get punished by not trying hard enough, as you came round the outside of me! You seemed to be braking pretty early cpmpared to me so made things a bit interesting at times!
By the time i did gt past i seemed to be all over the place and felt like i'd had the best of the tyres.

Was susrprised i couldnt get anywhere near my qual times

Really need to find the latest apps to reinstall...

Really dont like FFB settings, you cant go above 100% With road cars and race cars requiring vastly different settings if i set it high for the road stuff its going to be a pain having to change it all the time for others.

Really? Same starting procedure for me in ANY car in AC. Bounce off rev limiter, engage first gear, keep your foot down and control the wheel spin (if any). Sometimes I lift off slightly after launching if the back end is coming out too much. Gives me a good start every time. Only time I really have bad starts is very long first gear or I miss the green lights!!

If they ever fix the bug that prevents gear selection and clutch on starts then I will do it differently, but until then, this seems to be the best way to start (for me).

I have to say I can't tell the difference in the FFB since Day 1 to now. I've always left the car setup ones to 100% and have one common setting in the AC main menu (which I think includes no dampening), always feels great no matter what car I select. Which wheel do you have? I could never go back to a Logitech from my Thrustmaster T300 now, are you on Logitech? I can share my TM settings if that's helpful.

Lol you did when i first got my T300 and i transformed it but thanks anyway.

Whether its because of the slick tyres and stiffer race cars i find the ffb nice and strong allowing me to feel the changes more easily. With the road cars its like there's very little there, no resistance , no loads. I assume because of the power-steering on the cars. But it makes driving them rather.. dull and lifeless.

Weird thing is, my mediums also dropped after 4 laps, and were slower to begin with. And I think Zandvoort is heavy on the tyres, so Hockenheim will be a no brainer.

When the race started and Jeffrey gave me the inside for turn one I was trying to get away as fast as possible. Nearly messed it up on turn 2, going over the inside kerb. Was surprised that I could stay ahead and even increase the gap to Jeffrey, with knowing his normal pace  ??? Had a slow moment when I got to SRW and had no clear point to pass, so I was happy I still had a better pace than Jeffrey to open up the gap again. That gap was surely needed when in the last lap the car didn't go to 3rd gear and I ended in the kittylitter  >:( Thankfully I was still close to the tarmac and had a straight line out (second time only where I used 2nd gear), seeing Jeffrey coming in very close and the only point I might have lost it was the chicane that came up right then.


Exactly what I was using, guess you had better traction coming out of the corners.

I agree with Simon, amount of practice doesn't really promise a close race. And I gave you a setup tip in the in game chat, by saying "go stiff", but I don't know if you understood that message, as the reply: "ooeeerrr Jeff"  didn't ring a bell for me :P (Keep the bedroom noises in the bedroom pleasee :laugh:).

I'm also interested in your setup Mark, thought you had something similar to me, but Spanner says it's very soft, which is exactly the opposite of what I' ve got. My setup is fast, but on a knife edge, which is great for qually, but I'm too scared to push during the race  ;D

EDIT: Just seen the latest patch notes, which contains this:

- Fine tuning of tyre heating model for GT2 and GT3 cars. Tyres now might need 2 laps to heat up the core temperatures. Core temperatures are now much more stable during a lap and cool down slower.
- Corrected rolling resistance calculations for GT2 and GT3 cars tyres
- BMW M3 E30 Drift and M3 E92 drift has new tyre heat calculation following the GT2/GT3 logic. Experimental.

Will that also affect the tyres on the Stage A M3?

@ Spanner, your frustration was palpable but after flat spotting dreadfully at Dony I was trying to look after my tyres. Whether it was worth doing I'm not sure.

I agree that softs should not be able to do a 30 min race and I hope Kunos keep improving on the tyres.


You can set ffb per car in the game, when you're in the car, with the + and - of the numpad. You'll see the ffb on the top of your screen when you change it and it can go over the 100% (went over 300% to check  ;D) That ffb setting will stay with that car on a any track, until you change it. You can see the ffb setting per car in your *:\My Documents\Assetto Corsa\cfg\user_ff.ini

Well if you want to try my current settings...
Windows CP:
Overall 75%
Constant 100%
Periodic 100%
Spring 0%
Damper 0%

AC Game Settings:
Gain 60%
Filter 0%
Min Force 5%
Kerb 90%
Road 80%
Slip 20%
Enhanced Understeer OFF
Steering Gamma 1.00
Steering Filter 0
Speed sensitivity steering 0

Driving a BMW around Zandvoort is excitement enough for me without telling me I need to go stiff! :P aka I decided that maybe changing the entire suspension without care was a bad idea with the 2 minutes I had left so I stuck with what I had already driven. I did the gearing as Mark suggested, was running 3-3 wing (default) and upped the diffs slightly, but I think that was a mistake (at least upping the power diff was).

I just tried again with optimum track surface and mediums and 3-1 wing and it's still pants so I suspect the basically default setup needs something more drastic. Having said that on softs it felt alright.

I did try upping it when in car but it didnt seem to react when going above 100%, i guess theres a bit of a delay.

The setups seem to run no bump dampers, high rebound and a stiffer spring on the front so it didnt ride well!

Off topic: I see in the standings points for teams. How do I get the team 'Soggy Bottom Racers Club' I'm associated with on there?

To Simon, you really didn't need to explain yourself  :P I know all that already just couldn't be bothered to type it! But sometimes, some combos require some praccy and this was one of them I think. Of course all slightly negated by clever Erik getting softs to work!

My setup wasn't soft! I had 140f and 145r springs with 2-5 arb's. Ed was running softest and beat me while Jeff was prob running stiffest and beat me also  ;D
My tardy start was because I made a late call and used gearset2 8/40 as a quick look in Telemm showed it kept the car more in the right rev range for more of the lap but it was awful off the start line.

Regarding Ffb, I set it to suit each car. There's a great app over on Kunos for telling you ideal Ffb and gain for each car. I haven't reinstalled it since 1.3 but will do. I used 92% in-car for the e30.

It looks like your registered with SBRC for P&G only. You need to change your status to "all" then you will be recorded in all races/formats as a SBRC member.

Try this link to get you to the relevant team management page https://www.simracing.org.uk/lm2/index.php?action=teams

stiff springs with no dampers meant it was aweful over the bumps but changed direction quite well. Just mho though. I needed something a bit more under control.

Out of controlled me into an unchallenged 4th place  ;D I very rarely go without damping but the tyres and springs were doing their job of controlling the front wheels enough for me and any additional stiffness at the front was just affecting turn in too much.

Thanks! I did figure it was the all bit, but could not find how to change it. Set it to all now  ;D