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Practice: 19:45 GMT (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 ~ 30 Mins

Cars allowed: Any car from "GTR3" class
Track: Portimao GP
Time of Day Setting: Afternoon
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  OFF
Pit-stops: None required

Server: Simracing.org.uk E1GT3
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=519&theme=4)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro track pack for this series
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.

This will be the first event in a 5 race series which will run alternative Sundays for the rest of this year. Further series using modern GT, sports and prototypes will follow if this is successful.

For this first race we will be at Portimao which comes as free content when you install Raceroom Racing Experience from Steam. This is to make it more accessible for any new drivers who wish to try Raceroom with minimal cost. However you will still need to purchase at least one car to take part. The cars available at present are: http://game.raceroom.com/store/cars/gtr-3

There are more cars planned for the GTR3 class and it is likely that they will soon be available as a pack or to buy individually and these will be included in the available cars for this race (if released in time) and for the rest of this series.

Thanks to Tony and Matt for all their help in setting this up and to H@L for accommodating us  :thumbup1:

For tips on setting up and running Raceroom see here.....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13168.0

looks like i have to buy GT3 cars now too,
as i only have the ADAC GT 2014 cars, little different the cars are from what i did reading in forums.
but think cars will be very cheap.

servus

edit....but please people, do the slow down penalty away for this race, probably the most bad track for this penalty, you get the penaltys on very very strange places where never a cut was, in places where NO cuts are you get slow down, and in places where you can earn time you get NO warnings, realy no fun this track is with slow down penalty, people here do not cut for earn time (only if we make a little mistake), all gentlemen drivers are.

I think the slow down penalties are a good way to ensure drivers stick to track limits and control their cars during race. Generally they work very well in Raceroom and they are the same for all drivers so as long as we stay within the track limits there is no problem.

There are too many places to gain time by running wide at Portimao whether deliberate or by mistake so slow downs penalties stay.

Hey Gents

I am in... :rockon: :wheelchair:

Tony or Goldtop

This is only GT3 cars?

The reason why I ask is because ADAC is also classified as GT3, but they seem to be a little quicker.

Thank you
Ant

I think Goldtop wants to just use the RRE GTR3 class for the time being.

Yep, the ADAC cars are not being used in this series. We will only be using the "GTR3" cars. There are likely to be more cars added to this class in a soon to be released update (possibly in time for this event) and these will also be available to race as soon as they have been released.

Sweet, now to just get the guys

Tried the Beemer and Merc but can't get either to turn in they both understeer and plough straight on.   ::) ???

HELP

Good Morning Bill

I have the same problem when I tested which car I will choose for the series. As a rule the adac are much more positive on the steering.

Try to increase the rear bar, this helps deacrease understeer..

Ant

I find these cars pretty agile and willing to turn even with the default setup. But remember to try the Audi, its the easiest to handle IMO. Also you can try stiffening the rear springs or/and softening the front springs.

Stig

PS. I don't recommend checking the leaderboard for this combo. I did, and I don't think I have ever felt so inadequate  :wheelchair:

Thanks for that, I've already have max rear antirollbar and max rear springs also increased front toe out. It must be me, I'll keep fiddling with setup and see what happens. ;D

Move brake bias back a couple of notches  ;)

Remember that there are likely to be more cars to choose from by the time we race (probably a new "GTR3" pack). All of these cars are expected to have updated physics which includes a new tyre model so I wouldn't spend too much time on setup until then.

The leaderboards will probably be cleared too as the cars are said to be slower reflecting their RL performance.

Surely you must mean toe in?

Stig

I think he does mean toe out on the front, to get the inside wheel to pull the nose round a bit more.
Have only tried the chevvy and the maclaren, the chevvy for me was like the Gr5 cars, way too much power
for the chassis. had to set the rear very soft and the front hard to be able to complete a lap.
The Mac was quite different, as you would expect as it is rear(ish) engined. turns in ok, but you have to be
very cautious with the power coming out of the slow corners.

Have you tried reducing the steering angle Bill? the defautl is very unresponsive.
I understand Reinhard's point about the cut tracks here, it can be very frustrating, but you know exactly where it
won't allow you to go wide so , err don't. :angel:

Yes have standardised on 420 degrees of wheel rotation and 30 (whatever it is called?)

Goldtop

Could you please share the order of the races?

Ant

have a look at the series page Ant
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=519&theme=4

I figured them out, but the 2 german ones is whats baffing me..

Thanx Bru

Hover the cursor over those little flags Anty and it will show the name of track and date of race  ;)

There is also a series page here....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13367.msg241015#new

Thank you

Thanks Matt, bought a McLaren at great expense!  ;) It's a revelation, cranked up rear end, front Toe in etc. It is much better here but I hate this track and have to almost walk around a couple of corners. Gave it a whirl at Suzuka and it's great, nice to have a car that goes more or less where intended. Incidentally using the same procedures I've transformed the handling of the BMW M 1 compared to the last time I drove it.  :laugh:

I now using the same steering rotation and steering angle on both RRE and GTL.  ;D 8)

Bill, one other thing I have discovered, not being used to these modern new fangled things, these cars have
traction control, set to default 2 setting they are way easier to get out of corners. on 3 you can floor the throttle
and it just goes. You don't go quite as fast, but it makes them much more controllable.  ;D

Thanks for that Matt, I'll change setting tonight before practice.

And you can set up your own maps in the "Car Setup" page to give progressions of TC....I control these from the little red dial on my DFGT which gives me something else to play with as I watch Reinhard disappearing into the distance  :)

Very much doubt I can make this as its my wedding anniversary! Otherwise would have bought a car and tried it out as don't know how it compares to AC.  Have fun!

I am up for this series, much prefer a series as apose to random combos each week.

 :thumbup1:

I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.

Stig

Hmm.. tempted to give it another go.

"GTR3 Class:

•Massive physics update"


https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/20-10-2015-raceroom-has-been-updated.3122/

Hey I was reading now, and guess what major physics update on both GT3 class and M1 procar. So Gents if you practiced and setup your cars, guess what your going to be doing it all again

Ant

A whole lot more cars to choose from, man I have a hard choice to see which it will be for this series

Yep, they've added these to our GTR3 class:

Nissan GT-R
Ford GT
Ruf

Edit: And I almost forgot the vette C6R

They are not yet available to buy in store but "very soon" in Raceroom terms usually means in a day or 2 at most  ;)

If you fire up a GTR3 single player race you'll see them on track  8)

Updated my system and have experienced weird results.  ??? Neither the M 1 or McLaren will go properly at Susuka or Portimao but the 320 Evo goes alright at both. However both M 1 and McLaren drive OK at Bathurst!

Anyone else have probs?

That will almost certainly be because your saved setup is being loaded which is now incompatible with new physics. Just go to your car setup page and load the default setup. I also had to re-calculate my steering degrees and angle as this seems to have been affected.

Thanks will do that later.

Hey Gents

I had a look this morning after the update, I don't have any of the GT3 class added to my game yet, could you please confirm if you have it?

Ant

Thanks goldtop, now used default and as Tony wrote it's all changed in the setup screen.  Had a go at setting up both the M 1 and McLaren and now have a setup that's driveable.  Just need to learn the two tracks!!!  ;D

Maybe I've not been looking but I have just noticed that there seem to be a few more free cars to choose from?

134 Judd V8 (Hillclimb Icon series)
Aquila CR1 Sports GT (Aquila CR1 cup series)
Canhard R52 (Silhouette series)
DMD P20 (Prototype series)
Saleen S7R (GTR1 series)

Apologies if someone else has already posted about this

The above have always been free content but the Aquila and Silhouette series cars have both had major physics updates.

Notice from Sector 3 as the physics have changed on the cars its best to reset the setup to default and start again.

Hopefully I will be joining this race on Sunday after many year away from UKGTR

I think when I first tried RRE the only car that was free was the Aquila. I must spend some time trying these other ones out. As they are FREE they could be used as single spec non-champ races between championship series (couldn't they Matt)  ;)

The Silhouette and Aquilla both handle really well now. I'd be up for some spec racing with either of these

I suggested using some alternate free cars a while ago. For the moment I am sticking with the Historics
If the Sunday events are well supported, I would not want to run similar cars two days a week.

I tried the new update, and so far i think it's terrible. Only tried the M1 properly to be fair, and they have ruined it for me
it handles like a hovercraft now, wanders arounf the road completely unrealistically, reminds me of some of the rear engines cars
in GTL and P&G that never felt believable. And after resetting the steering I am now struggling to get something that feels right.
I can drive it, but it just feels all wrong, unlike before where it felt pretty good I thought.  :(

I agree

Stig

I like the way the M1 handles after the update but I'm still trying to get a good feel for the steering input. My old steering degrees and angle settings of 900/30 felt way too tight and sensitive so I've reduced the angle to 21 which feels better but it's still not right for me  ???

Remember also....you must restore your car setups to default and start tweaking from there.

I'm having similar problems with the GT cars and at the moment I would say I prefer the pre update feel. Just needs some work I suppose  :-\

Regards the Aquila, they are much improved and might make an appearance in our Sunday races next year depending on how things go.

I like the new m1 feel. It's not as exciting when you're not on the limit but get it up on its tip-toes and it's a lot of fun. I find a steering lock of about 16 feels right

I also like the "improved" feel. BTW I always set my steering to 300 and 9. Am I strange?

Well, not for that... lol. I use 425 and 13 all the time.

I use 420 and 30 for all my cars including GTL

I was 450/30 for most cars in this, but that now feels like steering an oil tanker, reducing the smaller number
just makes it to oversensitive, increasing or reducing the large number doesn't do what I expected
I am all for improving feeling/andling of cars, but why ave they mess with a perfectly good steering setup?

No comment  :angel:

Seems we all have wildly different ideas of how's best to set up our wheels so what we really need is some simracing guru to come along and put us all right. Failing that....

I have a day off today and have just spent an hour of it tweaking degrees, angles, Logitech profiles and ffb and I'm happy again, in fact more so than before  :)

hello goldtop,

any idea when this new GT3 cars will come for buy in store?

i do not have a single GT3 car actual (only the ADAC GT3 masters) and so i will be all cars together or perhaps soone come a bundle with all GT3 cars,
but race is already on sunday, so it would be good to know if the new GT3 cars come before sunday.

any news you know when they will come?

servus

I wish I knew the answer Reinhard as I'm waiting for the Ruf myself. If you already own the ADAC cars you could buy a single GTR3 car for very little cost (79vrp I think) to race until the other cars are released.

yes, if till saturday evening the new cars are not in, i do buy single cars, think 4 or 5 cars are for around 70vrp and only 1 car (think the bmw) i must pay 299vrp.

servus

Just had a very quick test using the currently available cars all on default setups and practice mode just to check balance since physics update.

Audi 1:45.4
SLS 1:46.0
McLaren 1:46.4
Alpina 1:46.4
Z4 1:46.5
Camaro (AKA The Dog) 1:48.2

About what I'd expect really with the Audi a bit more suited to the twisty track and a bit more time to come from all of them.

Cars felt good apart from The Dog which was trying to bite me even in a straight line  :o I ran 600/13 on my steering settings with 900 rotation in my profiler which felt perfect for me.

I'll be in the #69 McLaren for this series until the Ruf comes along  :)

All I own in these atm is.... The Dog. I never seem to be available, come race time. I will be Sunday... please Sector 3 give me a carset soon (I'm Scots, its all about the discounts, for me)

trying to join the server but the practice password isnt working is there a different password for RRE?

Server has been set with our race password.

Oh.... I took the liberty of setting the server up for this event immediately after Thursdays's race.  ::)

Thanks Matt, makes sense to do it that way. Wasn't meant to be directed at you but to Chunky as I'd just pm'd him the race pw.

I think the guys who run with TC are going to kill me this event, I can't get the grip out of the medium to fast corners, I tried twicking the setup, but my car just don't want to know nothing, or maybe I am pushing just too hard..

Mclaren, but you did a faster time in the Audi?

These are good laps

Why would you not use TC when this is what the pro drivers do in RL particularly as the cars now have more realistic TC settings as default?


But I prefer the McLaren and I've already started working on the setup  ;)

 :wheelchair: PS wheel chairs don't have electronics..  ;D. Just kidding, I have been racing with no aids for years, I guess I like feeling the car and response, it gives me more of a rush..

Leaderboards have all been cleared since physics update so could do with some populating...

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edit..

wow 1:43.7 is a great time  :o

Hello everybody,

I'd like to join you if it's not too late.
I'm not that experianced in driving leagues, but I've driven a couple of rounds in R3E http://game.raceroom.com/users/dmeer/ (http://game.raceroom.com/users/dmeer/) ;)

I've also read through the rules, but I found something confusing here, you where discussing about traction control. But considering the rules I have to set all the setting in traction control to 0 ?!


I'm not a native English speaker, so it may be a mussunderstanding ;)

Welcome Cuomo  :)

Just to be clear, you are allowed to use traction control in this series.

Don't worry about lack of experience, just be safe and have fun. Practice session starts in approximately 1 hour and 20 minutes so we look forward to seeing you on track.

Welcome Cuomo, if you have not already, please could you enter your country in your profile, so you get a nice little flag
next to your name in the results.

Thanks
Matt.

Happy Racing Tonight Gents.

See you soon, thats a good lap Goldtop. Tonight I hope to have fun with all

Ant

No body racing tonight?

is quali in 15min. or in 1h 15min?

other then this...
i do get a content error 2301?,
the problem i think is....i did buy the orange mclaren,
but in server i can select the loeb white,blue one for select without buy, but after loading into the server i get this content error message always.

no idea why this.

servus

server will be reset in 45 mins from now.
now = 19:00 uk time

There seem to be intermittent server problems these last few days. Keep trying Reinhard, I hope you manage to get in.

Am also getting 'content server error 20103'

Even when trying offline practice ???

Try not loading cockpits, think it worked for Berger.

Didnt think i did, thought it was a strange option. Even my own?


Nope still not working :(

Not sure mate, keep trying it might just be intermittent

Well its been happening since 7:45 and i still cant do anything.

I'm done with RRE until it works better on line. Too many lag problems that do not seem to have anything to do with connection speed.

Stig.

I am also getting the 'content server error 20103'. I tried rebooting the game but still got the error message, after numerous attempts to log in I ran out of time, could you give me a little bit more detail about 'not loading cockpits' because I couldn't work out where this setting is.

Its in the graphics settings SRW. You can pick lo, medium and high or you can pick custom. If you do its at the bottom of the list.

Didnt work for me tho

hello,

for me the error content  message go away, after i did in videosetting, the thing in totaly last place (bottum)...  load opponent cockpits to NO .

but not sure, if this works for other too, or it was only a lucky thing.

servus

That was though

Its like I was hitting invisible abjects. I would just hit something, the car would give a jolt and slow down. Man my line is good, I am running download 20-30 mbps and upload 5-10, ping is oike 25-30 I work online all day, I run my business from my net and I connect to servers all day.  I need a machine line. Since the update I have lost my HUD twice and also now hitting invisible objects.

Will done Berger, your a legend.

I really am now more disappointed with the last patch, before the patch I was super consistent, but now it seems I have a ghost in my PC.. Don't know if I want to carry on with R3E as well, I agree with hotkeys

Ant

Results Posted
Added the cars, Chunky and Cuomo to the known things lists/ Was not sure about what tyre makes the cars used
can sort that for next time.
I fell off a couple of times, so waited so I could have some chases with Cuomo, was fun  ;D

It can't be just luck, but whether I am on my home fibre, or In Southport on Sky DSL over wi-fi I hardly ever
see any warping, or get dropped. You were disappearing for a while Stig, same thing happened to Anty a few
weeks ago. We have had issues before with some non UK connections, though some where you might
expect trouble have worked perfectly. LAst year? maybe the one before, some people were dropping from P&G
regularly, always the same people, and not always distant ones. Seems to be the particular route to our server
that causes issues. I ran some races on my home server and for the people who were dropping, it was better for
them, though it proved to not be reliable enough for league events.

It was a lot of fun! I'm looking forward to the next race  ;)

These fights were a lot of fun, although they made me a bit nervous, I just didn't want to be the rookie who hits someone of the track in his first race , once it was really close, but luckily everything went well!  :)

I added the location information to my Account, is there another setting to get my correct flag?

I "think" it is "Profile - Driver details - Country"

Ah great, I just didn't see this, thanks!

That was strange as I don't think we've had problems with drivers joining before. Raceroom has been flaky since the recent update with laggy menus and long loading times. A real shame that Spanner and SRW couldn't join us as it would have been a decent sized grid for the first race in the series. I only saw Anty warping/lagging in practice session but after he re-joined all was good from where I was sitting.

On a positive note, it's good to see some new drivers on the grid  8)

My race was not so good. A bad start (need to sort that out for next time) and a couple of mistakes later in the race cost me dearly. Had a chance to grab 2nd at one point when Anty made a mistake but then I spun and got lost trying to rejoin  ::)

Next round is 2 weeks time at A1-Ring so maybe these problems will be sorted by then. Hope you fellas stick with it  :)

Tyres done  :angel:

Thanks Tony  ;)

Reinhard's McLaren has Michelins but my McLaren has Pirellis  :angel:

Unlike GTR2 (the sim, not the class), all the tyres (as far as I know) are the same and are modelled on a single GT3 tyre so it is just the skins that are different with sometimes several tyre makes showing up for each car model. The GTR3 class cars seem to be taken from various different racing series which would explain this. Not sure how that can be represented in results or if we even want to go that far, but I know Tony has a tyre fetish  ;)

BTW Tony, I mistakenly edited your previous post earlier while trying to post this  :wheelchair:

It's just a rubber fetish mate.

I like to see complete results tables and when the tyre info is missing I get a nervous twitch. As you say, our system doesn't identify individual cars just a single car type. As a compromise I look at the pretty pictures of each make of car and use the most popular.