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Title: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on October 21, 2015, 04:21:07 PM +0100
Yeah baby  O0

http://www.virtualr.net/drm-revival-assetto-corsa-first-preview-video

935's, BMW CSL, Zakspeed Capri.... :drool:

The DRM Revival Mod will recreate the fast and spectacular DRM Cars that were raced from 1972 to 1985. The DRM Group 5 series was divided into 2 groups. Division 1 was made up by iconic cars as the Porsche 935 Turbo, Lancia Beta Monte Carlo Turbo and the Zakspeed Turbo Ford Capri’s with engines ranging from 2000 cm ³ up to 4000 cm ³ and Division 2 cars with less than 2000 cm ³ like the Zakspeed Ford Escort, BMW 320i.

Many of the drivers have become household names in the international racing scene. Hans Heyer, Rolf Stommelen, Klaus Ludwig, Manfred Winkelhock, Hans-Joachim Stuck, Harald Ertl and Toine Hezemans, to name a few.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on October 21, 2015, 04:33:21 PM +0100
Epic mod for rF, and will be even better in AC. Can't wait to try this, I loved the Capri  ;D


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on January 06, 2016, 07:33:20 AM +0000
new preview vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkg93Bi5Ek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkg93Bi5Ek)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 06, 2016, 09:00:43 AM +0000
Bit like the RRE one then  ;)

Except in a proper racing sim, not Arcadia  :-*


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 06, 2017, 05:17:19 PM +0100
Another vid with all cars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jOisHeOuQ


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 06, 2017, 05:53:58 PM +0100
That looks (and sounds) epic!  8)
We NEED to run a season with those when they're released!


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on April 07, 2017, 07:32:42 AM +0100
Oohh boy. Looks like it is near completion. Hope they are as good as the look and sound.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 07, 2017, 09:02:04 AM +0100
Oohh boy. Looks like it is near completion. Hope they are as good as the look and sound.

The place holder cockpits worry me, that could mean it's still months away. That M1 looks so good.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Brocookie on April 07, 2017, 07:38:57 PM +0100
M1 Procar !  8) 8) 8) 8)

this is such great news. what a hell of awesome content we get there


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on February 06, 2018, 01:22:12 PM +0000
http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/drm-revival-first-drive-video.146843/

 :o 8)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on February 08, 2018, 08:40:45 PM +0000
It looks good, but has been for years now  :P. It will cost 15 euro/dollar/something and won't have real brands and liveries AFAIK.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 03, 2018, 06:16:17 PM +0100
It will be released in a few days:

https://www.drm-modding-team.com/

And will cost 15 euros.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: phspok on April 03, 2018, 07:04:46 PM +0100
Houeshold names? of course... Darling will you pass the Manfred Winklehock please  ;D

And like Tony says, I have been flogging these for more than a year  ::)
And am running a Capri series at the moment:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14844#event5764 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14844#event5764)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 03, 2018, 07:19:31 PM +0100
Yeah but that's on Raceroom where every car drives the same  ;)

I'd buy this, we should maybe do a poll to see if we could get a race series running with maybe minimum 10 drivers to sign up to make it worthwhile?   :)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 03, 2018, 08:03:09 PM +0100
If we ran a series I'd buy it - If the reviews are good enough I'd buy it anyway  ;)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: phspok on April 03, 2018, 09:00:43 PM +0100
LOL, the Capris are very much not the same, you may not like them
but they are very good.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 04, 2018, 05:44:02 PM +0100
I think the next series with these will be good, might attract some new faces as I guess these things will be very popular and people will want to race them in a series.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Baikal on April 05, 2018, 05:45:14 AM +0100
But i am crying . Because of many reason..  :'(


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 05, 2018, 08:39:00 AM +0100
But i am crying . Because of many reason..  :'(

Eh?  ???


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Baikal on April 05, 2018, 09:06:00 AM +0100
But i am crying . Because of many reason..  :'(

Eh?  ???
It was just morning emotion  :)
So, for me in two words:
- Mod. Unknown car phisics author ( for me). Unknown testers.. So, Black box which need a lot of time to test each car before creating a champ IMO.
- Not balanced cars. Lap time will be not compliant with car loving\choice in some cases.
- It all brings to me: I prefer monoclass for racing.
 

My own problems:
- 15 euros...
- manual gear shifting/ Again I will be not competitible in races with my paddles.
- changed GB local time brings some additional problems for me.
But incoming cars is interesting for me. I remember a Lancia from Great Dirt Rally with H-shifter and loved her a lot  ;)
But hope in good things ) :)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 09:13:47 AM +0100
- Mod. Unknown car phisics author ( for me). Unknown testers.. So, Black box which need a lot of time to test each car before creating a champ IMO.

The mod is already pretty old and is converted to AC. The previous version was very good and well received, so I think the physics will be safe.

- Not balanced cars. Lap time will be not compliant with car loving\choice in some cases.

This is also worrying to me, the cars also have different configurations, so there will be a lot of variations. I just hope they will be equal over a whole season.





Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 05, 2018, 10:50:25 AM +0100
Yeah the BoP is often a problem with these car sets. In the real world variations in power get balanced out by other factors over a race distance by fuel consumption, reliability, tyre wear, aero etc but as we often only run sprint lengths those traits don’t have an effect.  :-\

 Bet it’s a mighty cool looking grid though  8)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 11:03:54 AM +0100
Yeah the BoP is often a problem with these car sets. In the real world variations in power get balanced out by other factors over a race distance by fuel consumption, reliability, tyre wear, aero etc but as we often only run sprint lengths those traits don’t have an effect.  :-\

 Bet it’s a mighty cool looking grid though  8)

Can't judge yet how unbalanced they different brands are, but what might be an idea, is to allow configuration changes that some cars have during the season.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 05, 2018, 11:57:21 AM +0100
I guess as long as we keep to cars/variants of similar age they should be reasonably closer, as I think the mod set covers about 10 years of racing  :-\

Did you check the mod features part of their website? Some pretty cool touches  :)
I’ll be buying it, only the cost of 3 pints these days.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 12:30:58 PM +0100
I guess as long as we keep to cars/variants of similar age they should be reasonably closer, as I think the mod set covers about 10 years of racing  :-\

Ugh, for real. Why can't it ever be easy  :P

Did you check the mod features part of their website? Some pretty cool touches  :)
I’ll be buying it, only the cost of 3 pints these days.

The dirty car touch looks good.

Does anybody know how long the real life races were back in the day?


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 05, 2018, 01:29:26 PM +0100
I was slightly wrong, it covers 1976-82 so 6 years  :P

Race lengths were generally counted by distance like the 1000km of Spa or Monza or 12hrs of Sebring, 6hrs of mugello  etc
Look up ‘ world championship for makes’ which included these grp 4&5 cars


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 05, 2018, 02:02:59 PM +0100
I think the next series with these will be good, might attract some new faces as I guess these things will be very popular and people will want to race them in a series.

Big OT: my dream is a F1 season '67 with Lotus 49.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Baikal on April 05, 2018, 03:30:11 PM +0100

Big OT: my dream is a F1 season '67 with Lotus 49.
Yeah, agree. Some years ago I've done one lotus 49 champ and it was best feelings for me from all old cars. :)
Big OT closed  ;D


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 05, 2018, 03:39:26 PM +0100

Big OT: my dream is a F1 season '67 with Lotus 49.
Yeah, agree. Some years ago I've done one lotus 49 champ and it was best feelings for me from all old cars. :)
Big OT closed  ;D

Great!
The Lotus 49 in AC changed on version 1.5 of the game. In AC, before to 1.5 game version, the car was quite understeering, with "little steering", and relatively friendly with the back. She was not very fast. So i used to harden the rear and softened the front to have at least a little oversteering.
After AC 1.5 the Lotus 49 has become much faster, with more grip at the front and the rear very slippery. The back seems really light. The car is quite dangerous and highly oversteering. So i acted on the set-up in the opposite way; even if i have not yet understood it well.

NB: sorry for OT.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 03:56:12 PM +0100
I'll see how this DRM mod comes out and I'll keep the lotus as alternative when the DRM becomes a bad idea.
Was also considering the Alfa, but I found that a bit lackluster to drive :-[

Feel free to post car or track suggestions in the related threads, gives me a good idea what will be popular or not and then there will be less chance of me missing it. :).


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Baikal on April 05, 2018, 04:51:05 PM +0100

Big OT: my dream is a F1 season '67 with Lotus 49.
Yeah, agree. Some years ago I've done one lotus 49 champ and it was best feelings for me from all old cars. :)
Big OT closed  ;D
Ouuuch guys , Fabri . My memory fault... It was a Lotus 72D times for me... :angel:


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 05, 2018, 05:46:02 PM +0100

Big OT: my dream is a F1 season '67 with Lotus 49.
Yeah, agree. Some years ago I've done one lotus 49 champ and it was best feelings for me from all old cars. :)
Big OT closed  ;D
Ouuuch guys , Fabri . My memory fault... It was a Lotus 72D times for me... :angel:


Lotus 72 is more stable and easy to drift.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 06:14:45 PM +0100
I was also thinking about the 72. I can remember the 49 being a handful, which is why I went for the 25 at the time.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 05, 2018, 06:16:48 PM +0100
I'll see how this DRM mod comes out and I'll keep the lotus as alternative when the DRM becomes a bad idea.
Lotus 49 Vs Fez 312 surely?

Was also considering the Alfa, but I found that a bit lackluster to drive :-[

I fear you may be missing your soul :o


Joking aside I still think the Formula Easter cars would make for an epic open wheel championship on here - I've spent a fair bit of time on them and they have similar laptimes while all handling differently - only one car is that much quicker and would need to be kept away from the fast boys. I think there are about 7 cars/variants now, maybe more...
Try a race at bikernieki ;)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 05, 2018, 07:05:51 PM +0100
It is no possible do 49 vs 312, because Ferrari is 1,5-2 seconds slower. If it is the '67 season, i vote for the 49, most iconic car.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: PorcoRosso86 on April 05, 2018, 07:09:17 PM +0100
I think the next series with these will be good, might attract some new faces as I guess these things will be very popular and people will want to race them in a series.

Big OT: my dream is a F1 season '67 with Lotus 49.

+1
and 312 too


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Jeffrey on April 05, 2018, 07:39:12 PM +0100
Please continue the 49 and 312 talk here: www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14511.90
 :)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 08, 2018, 02:28:41 PM +0100
back on topic  :P

I just bought it and downloading now.  :) Doubt i'll get a chance to try it out with all the epic sport on today !  :o  but will try and do a few laps if I cant resist!  ;D

1.66gb download  :o


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: goldtop on April 08, 2018, 03:42:41 PM +0100
Bought this Friday and have spent yet a few more hours trying to get a decent feel out of my DFGT and giving the 1H Porsche (or whatever they call it) a decent test around Spa ie 25/30 laps. I also gave the Moby Dick Porsche a few laps for a very rough comparison.

Unfortunately I still can't get any sense of feeling in AC. The front of the cars just feel dead to me as if there are no tyres connecting to the road surface and I just have the feeling of vague weight transfer through the wheel which gives me no sense of being in control or any clue about the grip available.

I've tried researching ffb for my wheel and seem to be using similar settings to those I found were recommended. Frustrating as I get a really good feel in Raceroom. I just come to the conclusion that AC and DFGT wheels don't work but if anyone has any advice (short of changing my wheel) I'll gladly give it a try.

As for the mod, I can't fairly judge the driving but some of the graphics are no better than rFactor  :thumbdown:


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 08, 2018, 04:12:14 PM +0100
Shame your still not getting feel from your wheel in AC, as know you like your historics racing. It must be an Ffb controller issue. I don't much about your wheel, is it a cheapy one? Have you tried the ffbclip app?

Regarding tyre feel, don't forget these are on slicks and will take at least 3 laps to get upto temperature, possibly more. A few reviews mention taking time to get a feel for lack of grip/feel until you've done a longer sesh.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: spanner on April 08, 2018, 05:51:24 PM +0100
There is a FFB app in the game, when in the car that allows you to tune other levels than those in the standard controller options.

Every game has differing FFB sadly. I normally find increasing the strength is my first change, i need to feel the weight change through the wheel, though this normally means getting massive spikes through from kurbs etc.


Sounds like your planning on using this mod for the next series?


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 08, 2018, 07:22:57 PM +0100
I just tried the bmw csl winged monster for a few laps of nurb gp. All installed okay and car felt good as far as I could tell with only 5 laps on default setup. Car sounded good and looked good from cockpit and external replay, with a good bmw screamer engine sound.
I was a bit disappointed to see the AI can’t seem to drive them as they were queued up at t1. Not sure if that applies to all tracks. I was hoping to see the other monsters in action as I drove around and have some ai races .


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 14, 2018, 03:15:20 PM +0100
Any further comments on these yet? Do I fork out some cash or not?
I've read that some of the complaints about the models are going to be addressed in the future which over-rides some of the complaints against the mod.
Given that the rest of the complaints centre either on sound or on the cars being hard to drive because they need to warm up before being driven fast ::) I'm edging towards a buy..


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Fabri Fibra on April 14, 2018, 04:58:57 PM +0100
A friend of mine has this mod. For him it is really incomplete in all aspect, atm.

I'm not interested in those car, and in any case, this mod comes from rfactor (in some cockpits this is so evident).


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 16, 2018, 07:28:47 PM +0100
They have promised updates so hopefully any issues will be resolved. I haven't had a chance to try any more cars yet, will report my findings when I do.

Also... 8)
https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/drm-revival-real-skin-pack.149320/

https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/drm-revival-real-in-game-names.149580/

splendid  :)



Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 19, 2018, 09:12:52 PM +0100
Tried a couple of more cars out tonight (the f308 fezza and Porsche 935 Kramer) with a big grid at Brands GP. I love the cars, this is a great mod that brings this era of flame breathing turbo nutter winged wonders to life  8)
The cars felt great and looked great. I like the way you have to warm up the brakes and tyres over a couple of laps before the car comes to life and then it feels great with fat slicks and aero. If we ran a race series using them you would need a warm up lap for sure. Love it  :)


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on September 22, 2018, 03:34:05 PM +0100
haven't used this mod in ages due to lack of spare time, but having found myself 'home alone' for today, I did a busy grid race at the Nürburgring GP layout at dusk to simulate the 'Nürburgring Oldtimer' events, my goodness, spectacular  :wub:
That was probably one of the best races I've ever had and yet it was against the AI  :o  wearing the rift and seeing a grid of 935's, BMW batmobiles and Procar M1's spitting flames on downshifts and the engine notes/turbo etc was just sublime. I, ahem, deliberately qualified last  ;) so had to fight my way up the grid for 15 laps, awesome.  8)  I was in the BASF M1  :tt1:

AC is the gift that keeps on giving  :) I need to retire so I can race all day  ;D


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: Mark J on April 30, 2019, 09:24:38 AM +0100
How many people bought this mod in the end? Be great to run some races using it. Seems a shame to have all these epic cars gathering dust in my virtual garage  :P


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: goldtop on April 30, 2019, 11:14:35 AM +0100
How many people bought this mod in the end? Be great to run some races using it. Seems a shame to have all these epic cars gathering dust in my virtual garage  :P

I bought it and have spent some time racing offline and comparing performance of cars. There was an update a couple of months ago which tidied up some of the graphics and tweaked the BoP. There are still some big performance differences between some of the cars but there a probably enough that could be raced together if we limited the car choice.

If enough drivers are interested I'll post the data I have collected so that others can compare.


Title: Re: DRM Revival Mod
Post by: MaxVeloce on April 30, 2019, 12:52:45 PM +0100
I don't have it and am not inclined to buy it on a maybe, but if someone wants to let me test drive a copy :P and its Ok, then I'd buy it to race with if needed...