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In 2016 we will be running a new mod for GTL which features a full F1 car set era 1967. We are providing early access to the mod so that any problems can be sorted before the first race.

In order to run this mod some preparation is required which we will run through below.

The following is important. If you fail to follow the instructions provided you will receive miss match messages when attempting to join the online server.

1) Create a new install of GTL. For instructions on doing this look here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13237.msg238743#msg238743)

2) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_f1_1967) and install into your new GTL.

3) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/akarp9ghbkdt1hh/GTL_F1-1967_v1.11.rar) and install it into the GameData folder allowing it to overwrite the existing files.

4) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/eu2yygev6r06b60/SIM_GTC.gdb) and copy into the GameData folder allowing it to overwrite the original file.

5) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/8a12911l0l11sly/F1-1967_v1.1_Honda_update.rar) update for the Honda's only. Copy files in to your Honda folder allowing to overwrite existing files.

6) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/iic7i5y64i4601x/GTL_F1-1967_v1.12.rar) and copy into the GameData folder allowing it to overwrite the original files.

7) Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/52p4nvg47pu8d4t/F1-1967_Gauge_Fix_GTL.rar) and copy into the GameData folder allowing it to overwrite the original files.

That's it!

Please try out the cars and provide feedback below so that we can fix any problems. I would recommend trying without virtual mirrors as the car mirrors are really good.

NOTE: Post updated 05/11/2015 to include brake balance fix update

NOTE: Post updated 28/11/2015 to include update for Honda's only

NOTE: Post updated 14/12/2015 to include tyre pressure fix update

NOTE: Post updated 18/06/2016 to include dial swopping fix update

This is somewhat of a revelation!! :o to a computer numpty like me.

If I understand this correctly, many people have a complete GTL package for each series they are racing?

So I assume that we would have to load the circuits for a given series into the "Locations" folder in the appropriate install.
 
I confess to having concerns about the size of my current GTL install. I have everything for all series ever since I started dabbling in GTL , all of the various carsets, circuits etc in one folder.

The question I have is quite simple.  What are the advantages of having separate installs??

I don't think size is important Clive (where have I heard that before?). And I'm sure many others do as you do. For me as an admin it's essential for me to have a GTL install for every series we test/run. This particular mod does require a separate install as it provides a unique class tab within GTL for all of the F1 '67 cars rather than having them mixed in with say TC-65 cars etc.

Tony:
Would it work if you only make a new Gamedata folder. and then install the two downloads in it.  Then just swap the Gamedata's when you wanted to use these cars?  The reason I ask is anytime I create a new GTL total load I have a H*** of a time getting into the Bude Lobby with it.  Just jinxed I guess.  Whatcha think?

Bob M.

Off the top of my head I cannot see why this shouldn't work. But your lobby access details are in your .plr file (User Data folder) and if you copied your existing GTL you would be using the same .plr file. Maybe I'm miss-understanding your comment re: Bude lobby?
Maybe try doing a copy of GTL then before proceeding with step 2 try to join the lobby?

My computer doesn't like GTL and I have a cobbled together program so I have a Master copy and a couple of sub-masters with a couple of copies on USBs. With GTL you only need a virgin installation modified with the various SROU cheats/mods that logs onto our Monday race server, then copy it and rename it to Season xx.

I've had problems over the years with corrupted installactions so I go with philosophy of separate "Season" - Good Practice assuming your drive has sufficient spare space. :devil: Will have a look at Season 16 installation later this morning!  ;D

Hi Tony, have a Season 16 installation and tried to do exactly as you say.  F1 folder in Teams with a list of car folders containing Ferrari, Lotus etc cars.  However, cannot see any F1 cars in the available cars - a handful of extra installed car packs, ie Daimler and one USA V8 cars are shown and work OK.

Any suggestions please.

F1 1967 MUST be in it's own GTL install and NOT one created for an entire season (which I imagine contains other series content). The server has two versions of GTL. One for F1 1967 and another for everything else. If you rock up with your one Season 16 install you will get error messages at every non-F1 1967 you try to attend.

Thanks Tony no problem have all F1 downloads on my computer, just need to delete all the extra stuff.  Will let you know result.

All systems go have bought 1 of each car and, using the default setup (which has small angle of lock Kart like), driven a couple of cars around Donnington Nat quite good fun.  ;D

Now really ahead of game  ;) as I have my normal Season 16 installation already for next Season - good job there is no RRE tonight and I already have DTM 92 at Bathurst all setup to race.  ::)

Be nice to try online with other drivers for a final check for any glitches.  ;D

That will come Grasshopper. Probably sometime over the Christmas break.

I tested them all at Goodwood. They are a blast and I have never seen such quick laptimes.

BTW have you tried without Virtual mirror? The cockpit view using the car mirrors is properly immersive.

Who are you, and what have you done to our Bill Thomas?

It's my recon heart pumping all this oxegenated blood to me brain it's in overdrive!  :jumpjoy:

Will have jumped off for Christmas.

Only uninstalled car packs, noticed Pebble Beach and a n other of SROU downloads are available to drive on.

No will look at later it's now newspaper time.

Out of interest is this website on a go slow, only both PC and iPad are taking an age to to load and change pages etc.  ???

Locations in your new GTL install can be left alone. They will not cause any conflicts.

Recon heart? can you get them at Halfords? I need a new one please.  ;D

Once in a lifetime offer for over 75 year olds.  :D

Update:
Got a clean Gamedata and installed the 2 downloads and swapped it into my Srouk GTL game.  Works like a champ!  Drove every car last night, wife all the time saying are you coming to bed???
Cars are way better than the old V1 mod from a couple of years ago. We ran a few races over on GC and the attrition rate was terrible,  if you could finish you most likely got a podium.  Nasty, Twitchy and just generaly a hand full to drive.  These are as docile as the LM55 cars, but man they really are fast!!!  Congrats Tony, I think you picked a winner!!!!!!!!!!!   Should be a great, and different season...

Bob M.

 :sweatdrop: Phew. Cannot tell you how pleased and relieved I am that it all works. BTW there are three levels of damage with these cars. Damage proof, hardy (default) and delicate. We'll stay on the default for the first season I think  ;)

Which track did you use for testing?

I rotated the cars through all the standard GP tracks. That is  all my new Gamedata had on it.  Still don't understand why these cars cannot be loaded with other mod cars.  Maybe some computer whiz can give a explanation.  If you check the F1 cars and none of the rest it should block them out right?  Maybe just a mystery of life!!!!!!!   Maybe we should have a warm up race before the season opener just to make sure we have no miss matches and problems..  Hate to see anyone booted on a points race because of a glitch in the system or individual load.

Bob M.

The mod designers specify creating a new class grouping for these cars. That's all I can tell you. And yes it does enable you to select just the F1 '67 cars and you could only do this by creating a new specific class. I will be posting information about a praccy server running at some point over the Christmas holiday period with a test race.

Which tracks are you thinking of using for this Series Tony; do you intend to limit the number of drives for each car, as in current Series?

For this series (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=495&theme=5) with all new cars, and so many of them, I would like this first championship to be a  "taster menu" so there will be free choice throughout. I hope drivers will not stick to one car, although they are welcome to do so if they wish, but try them all out. If we run a second series, them I will bring in some drive limits.

Just driven the Ferrari 312 1966 on the Italian GP at Monza 60s I have never lapped so quickly after a tweak from Default setup the speed through that last left hand kink is amazing, foot to the floor all the way through it!! On 2nd lap did a 1:59 with more to come with some practice. Though not an open wheel fan these cars are certainly an exciting drive and a change from what we normally drive.  ;) :thumbup1: :rockon:

Details of test race now posted here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13396.msg241718#msg241718)

My F1 installation appears to be corrupted.  ??? All the cars now, from cockpit view, have no front wheels just the upper and lower wishbones.  Rebooted a couple of times without success, same at Donny Nat. replay shows cars with all four wheels as normal.  ::)

Any ideas apart from uninstalling and reinstalling.

Check your .plr file for the line under Graphics Options that says Wheels Visible In Cockpit="1" Make sure yours says 1 and not 0.

I have installed a new GTL on my server, and installed the F1 mod, and copied the file as per the instructions
but when I start the dedi server there are no classes showing as allowed.
What am I missing?

I'm not sure Matt. It sounds like you have done the same as I did for the Srouk GTL dedi server. Maybe go and poke around in that and see if you can spot something?

I might have to dust off GTL for this  :)

I have installed the F1 67 mod.I have a problem. I do not see "1967 GPL" in event options menu. I have re-installed F1 67 about four times thinking it may have been corrupted. I can see the cars in “My Garage” and see them in the showroom, (it shows Class -) not 1967 GPL. I cannot drive them. When I try I only get the cars and classes in the original sim, GTL- TC etc. to choose from. ???

When I reloaded the F1 67 mod over an original profile I could select the cars in “Car Dealer” and test them. I went into my fourteen year old mode (awesome) :jumpjoy: although I had actually watched these cars and drivers race first time round. :wheelchair: I have now deleted that profile. I own the cars so can’t test them.  :cursing:

I had loaded the GTL v 1.1.0.0 update and the all Cars and Tracks cheat (for when a new profile is created).

I can’t work out what the problem is, a bit frustrating seeing as others seem to have it working. I thought I had followed the instructions carefully. Maybe I have a file in the wrong place. Any ideas? :helpsmilie:

Matt, I've remembered something. I had the same problem. It's to do with the class line in every .car file. Suggest you copy one from the Srouk install and use that in every .car file. It's bit of a faff but it works.

It sound like a problem with the replacement file downloaded in step 3. Did you put it in the Game Data folder?

You should see this

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/wiltshire_tony/GTL%20F1%201967%202015-11-01%2013-23-54-59_zps9dhmz5gy.png)

I don't see that, and yes, it’s with theSIM_GTC76; GTC-TC65; TC65 and various Cups, Champs and other folders.

I copied the whole teams F1 dir from the server to my install and I still see no classes. I will have a look at the individual files.

If you can see a file called SIM_GTC.gdb what date does it have?

I changed the class line to this

Classes="SIM_FULL, SIM_GTC, SIM_67GPL"

NOTE: Drivers do not need to do the above. This is just information for setting up a dedi-server. Please ignore if you are not setting up a dedi-server.

When you launch the dedi server you won't see any F1 1967 cars listed. Just select all cars and continue. It will show the F1 1967 cars only in the lobby.

Well you should definately give it a go

Thanks Tony, so simple when you know how!  :notworthy:

Great stuff Tony - works fine at Spa67.
After my first laps offline I'm still far too slow - as usual - but I'll keep on practicing up to 30th December  :D

Just been watching my local footie team lose again on TV. Now watching F1.

File downloaded yesterday dated 31/10/2015. Created/ modified same date. Accessed 1/11/2015. Size 5.30KB. The date shown seems to be the date downloaded. (Don’t think this is going to help).

I can now access the cars again through Car Dealer as I have messed around a bit and don’t own them. Only able to test drive on three tracks though. I want to race them.  :cursing:

Not been able to turn on the car mirrors despite ticking "mirror" option in screen with Units etc. ??? Looked in prl file under Graphics but can't see mirrors although there is an entry for see rear wheels in mirrors.

Help please.

Hmm, delete and start over mate.

Did you untick Virtual Mirror?
(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/wiltshire_tony/GTL1950s2012-09-2913-59-51-48.png)

Yep, will do that during this week. I have done about four new installs of GTL for other mods and never had a problem. Maybe the problem is in the new install of GTL so I will delete all and start again as it seems something got corrupted along the line. BTW the cars look and sound brilliant when test driven.   ;D

Maybe obvious, but have you added the all cars and tracks cheat to that install?
I still can't get the dedi server to work. I see no cars at all when launching it, it allows me to start it
but it all happens too fast, I don't think it is actually connecting to a lobby.
My normal GTL install has no LOCAL_IP_LOBBY file and somehow connects to altbier
I have tried not having one, and having one with the altbier address and it still doesn't seem
to connecting to anything. ho hum....

My actual game itself now sees all tracks and all cars, but that is a different machine.

I could copy my Game Data folder to my Mediafire account and you could download it? Want to try that?

Matt, anyway you could copy the Srouk install?

Thanks Tony it appeared to be a sequence problem.  As I had problems with no front wheels and other things to do, working car mirrors were low on my to do list.

I had F1 running with virtual mirror and just turning it off leaves the car mirrors still not working.  Starting F1 and going straight into Advanced and removing the Virtual mirror tick results in car mirrors working
and pressing key 1 for virtual mirror no longer turns on the virtual mirror.  8) :rockon:

Slipping the trial race to 30 Dec means I now stand a change of being available and I can spend any pre Christmas time to practice and pick a car and get it setup, well my sort of setup!  ;) ::)

Hi Tony .... mod installed and tried all cars at Spa67, the cockpits look great and sound is good, a blast to drive, fav cars at mo Eagle 2g and the Coopers with default setups, as you said have turned virtual mirror off wing mirrors are fine. Just worried about online do i have to add or modify a file to get online  (this GTL install will not connect to internet)?

Online shouldn't be any different procedure to normal for drivers. Admins have to use a different Install to connect to the lobby.

If you created your F1 1967 install from an existing GTL install that had connected successfully to the lobby previously then your F1 1967 install should too as it has the same .plr file.

Yes please Tony, I have not used MediaFire before but it is worth a try. It could save me some time and grief if it works. Thanks. :thumbup1:

Hi Tony  ..... new install now connects to lobby but no races shown, also my login name is different, my normal GTL connects to lobby and shows races?

I'll pm you the download link one it's created.

I'll run the F1 1967 server from Friday evening (approx 19:00) until Saturday mid morning so everyone can see if they join it. The track will be Donington GP.

I'm puzzled by your login name being different. What is your usual login  name and what is the different one?

My Homebrew server is up for GTL_F1 with a selection of tracks, if you don't like the track, then move it on to the next one  ;D
It's called SROUK_GTL_F1_Backup or something like that.
default practice password.

Hi Tony ....(What is your usual login  name and what is the different one) usual 4roger4  new install roguk

Can you email me the .plr files from both installs?

Thanks Matt, that will be a huge help. But is it running now? I just tried to join it and didn't see it in the lobby?

No, I couldn't see it earlier this morning.

It was running but I closed it down, as I thought it might be affecting the normal GTL server
I checked mine before I went to last nights race, and it had stopped, so I restarted it, and then couldn't
see the Ukgtl server anymore, so I shut mine down, and then joined the V8 race
I have just restarted my F1 server, be interesting to see if people can see my F1 server
and the normal GTL srouk one.

I'll give it a go when I get home tonight and report back

I don’t know if you got my PM thanking you Tony or if it disappeared into the either.

I have reinstalled GTL, installed the update and the all cars and tracks cheat and used your Game Data folder. (BTW my Game Data folder was mostly the same as yours).I have also changed the PLR file. Still no joy.

I have the GTL F1 cars in My Garage but when I try to practice on a selected track I only get the option of the usual GTL classes. I don’t get the 1967 GTL option appear in the event options. It seems the problem would be solved if I could get this sorted. I have racked my brains as it should be simple to solve on the face of it but nothing I try works. Don’t know what I have done wrong. At least others have got it to work.

I will give it some thought. If anyone has any idea's...

If your original folder has the "all the cars and tracks" cheat do you need to do it again? It's the only thing in your modus operandi that varies from my instructions.

BTW I did receive your message and promptly forgot to reply, sorry

@ Matt, just joined your server with no probs.

I don't have the Spa track installed, any idea where I can get it?

Not sure. it is "probably"
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=41732

Or, it might ne the default Spa that comes with it.

I had selected 67Spa, but it was running a more modern version, which I think would be the one above
it is running different tracks now, the modern Spa is at the end of the sequence
I can just leave it on a common well know track if that's easier

right finally on lol.

Had some fun last night on my server with Misnoimis and BurtonR seeing who could stay on the track longest  ;D
I like these cars, they will be a hoot in next year's series.

A couple of reservations though. Could be just me, but I have to set unrealistic setups to get them to handle
and the brake bias seems very badly implemented. It is not possible for me to push the bias back far enough
to stop the fronts locking up into ever corner. It won't go lower than 50.5? which should be more than enough
but isn't. I managed some half decent times eventually, but only by learning to basically not brake much
and set the brake level to 80% or so, otherewise the cars are undrivable, some more than others.

I tried the Ferri67 which I liked, the Eagle xG variant which requires great care on the throttle
A cooper which was faster than I expected, and the Big white Honda whale, which is more useful in this
than I remember from GPL. My best time of the evening was a high 1:49 in the Honda. Could go quite
a bit quicker if the dam brakes would work properly  :hammer:

Can log on and drive OK, yes I get brake lock up as Matt wrote.  Very annoying not being able to adjust bias.  ::)

I'll approach the mod author and see if I can get an explanation for the limited brake adjustment. Doesn't mean we'll get an update though.

I managed to go online and practice for about an hour with phspok and BurtonR although I got a GAMEDATA SIM_GTC.gdb mismatch message every time. To start with I was about 6 seconds off the pace in the McLaren at Imola but for the last few laps got it down to about 1-2 seconds with a 1m52s lap. Great fun once I began to learn the track and started to get the hang of the car.

BTW Tony I wasn’t expecting a reply to my PM. I just could find no trace of sending it.

I still have my problems offline, I have tried installing the SIM_GTC.gdb (I notice the original file was compressed) now numerous times after various downloads with no success. I just cannot get the 1967 GPL Class to show in Events Options. The only way I can get to drive the cars is to sell them to the Dealer and test them on one of three tracks. I don’t suppose I need to load Version1 first? It seems that something is missing. Possibly a modification to the “Select Track” Event Option” window. I see the cars in the showroom but it doesn’t show a Class. Anyway, I’ve got to December 30th to crack it.  :hammer:

yeah that was pretty good last night, took while to get the steering sorted and then the braking, finding after about 30mins I was getting the hang of it and getting down to the 50s. I ferrari was great car to drive, I like to try out some of other cars bit more to see what they are like, specially eagle as I know that is fast from my GPL days.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/16aw1v6.jpg)

I can copy my entire F1 1967 install for you. Be a big download tho. You can then swop .plr files and you should be good to go. Let me know if you want to give this a try.

I guess this would be a bullet proof way of me having a working F1 1967 installation, a very big download but should not be a problem. I will swap the PLR files from the User Dater folder. Could I just swap the folder named misnoimis?

Thanks Tony, if it works I won’t care if I couldn’t solve the mystery.  :thumbup1: I am just going out now but will be home about 5pm.

Yep  :thumbup1:

YGM

IMPORTANT. READ THIS

The mods have produced an upgrade for us which hopefully fully addresses the brake balance issue that some drivers commented on.

Get it here (http://www.mediafire.com/download/akarp9ghbkdt1hh/GTL_F1-1967_v1.11.rar)

Install as usual and allow to overwrite existing files.

Thanks Tony for posting + thanks to LooseEther and DeepStrike

Thanks Tony, all done :)

My server is up running Dijon, which I "think" is a built in track
Tried the new update briefly, and it is a HUGE improvement, many thanks to all involved  :thumbup1: :thumbup1:

Thanks Tony, up and running OK. Couple of points:-

Trust in F1 Season 16 we will race on 1960s GP tracks not current artificially slowed tracks eg Spa.

Which Server should we logon to tonight, SROU or Matt's server for practice?

I assume the SROUK server is running Thompson for Monday's race.
That's why I set mine up, so we have a (semi) permanent F1_GTL server to play on.

Thanks Matt, it was just that Tony had said he would have our SROU server set to Donningto GP tonight for testing.  I'll go to lobby and see what F1 servers are available and join the populated one, probably after 2000 hrs. ;D

I'm still at work Bill! Alright for retired geezers  ;)

Great mod  :o Evening test  ;)

Test server started. Donington GP. Usual practise password.

Will be running until midday tomorrow.

OK guys you have been warned!

Sometime today I intend to install this F1 mod on my computer.  ::)

History will tell you that :-

      New software + My Ineptitude +  Computer = a list of problems   

So, now might be a good time to take your partner away for a few days of Christmas shopping. It might be expensive, but it will be a lot less painful than reading my posts!!!
 ;) ;)

We have total confidence in you. Go for it.

What could possibly go wrong?  ::) :whistling: :scared:

NOTE: If the front wheels are "missing"

Check your .plr file for the line under Graphics Options that says Wheels Visible In Cockpit="1" Make sure yours says 1 and not 0.

I have used, where possible, tracks of the period. However some compromises had to be made. For example there is only one version of the Le Mans Bugatti circuit which is almost right but unfortunately uses the modern Le Mans start/finish straight with it's modern day chicanes, which were not there in 1967.

Thanks Tony, the intent is there if not the right version of the tracks being available.  ;D :rockon:

OK if the interweb goes down in the next hour, I'm turning the lights off and hiding under the bed with the dog!

Just installing a fresh GTL copy from the CD................................blue paper alight and we are standing well back. :ninja:

Your using Windows XP right?

Yes!  Win XP here... Just to clarify...

I thought i would give myself a virgin copy GTL as a reference point to find and compare folders, before I make a copy of my current GTL working installation and modify as per your instructions.

If I have understood the various posts here correctly, I need a "clean" Game Data folder with just the  2 downloaded F1 files installed? and a third file inserted into the new GTL location?

Don't worry, i'm not fooled, it can't be that simple...............................

The 3rd file can be exported into the GameData folder too. It will work out for itself where it's contents live providing you let the compressed file extractor program do it's thang.

It sounds dangerously simple Tony..lol

If the rest of the F1 GTL install remains the same, and the only folder being changed is "Game Data". What should I see in the new Game data location if everything goes to plan?

In GameData the only change you will see is the date of the file SIM_GTC.gdb

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Congrats

DUMMY ALERT This dummy is now up and running with GTL GP 1967 offline and against AI drivers thanks to Tony. :jumpjoy: Just tried a few laps at virtual Goodwood, brilliant.  :thumbup2: Now look out Donnington GP.   ;D ;D ;D

My GTL_F1 server is up and running most of the time with built in tracks if you want to test it on line.

SROUK_F1_Backup

For some reason I could get it to sort of work online but not offline. It would be a good idea to test it online again so thanks I will visit your server. :thumbup1:

Thank you Matt  :thumbup1:

I think I stated somewhere earlier that there would be no car restrictions for the F1 1967 series. I am beginning to change my mind about that. A more likely scenario will be the first five races being free choice and the remaining six races being handicapped.
I am still testing the cars out so nothing is written in stone yet.

I can now confirm that handicapping will commence from race six onwards.

Original post updated. Now includes update link for Honda RA300 only.

Is this a real 67' Fi sim or does it dumb everything down so that they are all easy to drive and all feel like a Renault Alpine in PnG? 

Hmm, perhaps you would be the best judge of that. For me it delivers a fast, visually entertaining sim mod. But others may/will disagree.

LOL  Thanks Tony.

Well when I first did GPL it took me 20 minute to get out of the pits at Monza with all the wheels still in place!

I shall wait and see what Evil makes of it. 

Just to be clear Tony, the readme says install in GTL\Gamedata\Teams\F1-1967\Honda\. There are two cars in the Honda file the RA300 & the RA273. The update seems to apply to both cars so therefore it appears it should go in the GTL\Gamedata\Teams\F1-1967\Honda\ folder not the GTL\Gamedata\Teams\F1-1967\Honda\RA300 folder. Is this correct?

Hi Geoffers. I thought it was just for the Honda RA300 but I will check with the developers. I'll post here once it's clarified.

Clive being positive again  ::)  It's all too much.

Well, my opinion, for what it's worth... is:   these are really really good, it's been a longgg time since I ran GPL so
time clouds things, but for me these things are amazing, most have a heavy back end and some like the Brabhams
have too harsh engine braking for my driving style. They generally handle more like a nutter 911 than a placid A110
I particularly enjoy the older Cooper - T79? and the older Ferri, those two are very chuckable. Two of the most
enjoyable sim driving cars I have driven. For pace, so far my fave is the newer Honda, which is much more competitive
than the GPL version was. And the sound of many of them is very raw and adds to the high engagement level that they have.

Not tried the Mac or the Locusts yet, but so far I am lovin it.

The developers have confirmed that this is indeed an update for BOTH Honda models. The readme and title of the original download have now been revised to reflect this. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused.

Hi Tony,

I can see a possible problem with this upcoming series. I have just done an off line race at Goodwood which included practice, qualifying and the race. I used the McLaren. I have noted qualifying times and saved my race video for performance reference to help me choose a competitive car for future races. The McLaren seemed pretty quick.  :eek:

With AI opposition driving I noticed that the cars could be roughly divided into three groups looking at the qualification times. The slowest were certainly no match for the quickest. Maybe humans and aliens driving would make a difference.  :wheelchair: :alien:

I think this is a great mod.  It would be nice to see all the cars used in the races. I guess your challenge is to invent a formula where this might happen.   :chef: Good luck.

This mod IMO take classic car sim-racing to the next level of difficulty.  Can’t wait for the series to start and the chance to make an idiot of myself.  :drool: ::)

I think you've hit upon the answer yourself. AI can not be compared to human drivers. The first proper series will be a test of comparitive performance and may throw up some suprises.

OK cheers Tony.

Original post updated (Item 6) to include Tyre pressure update fix.

I finally sorted my XD not working.

1: Installing the latest DX9 won't work in Win10 because it refuses to do it. I had to install the complete DX9 redistributable SDk
2: I had to get the latest version of XD

And now, I have XD in all my installs  ;D

Having given this some considerable thought ( :whistling: :sleep1: :no:) I have decided to bring in handicapping from race Four onwards.

 :devil: MHAA HA HA HA HA  :devil:

This now makes Spa the first handicapped event.

Hello Guys  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all


I created a new install of GTL and followed the instructions from the main post,  and I copied the cheat file to unlock all tracks and cars (I'm not sure if I had to do that !!!!)

Now I see all the F1 cars in my garage but when I want to start a race I cant see the F1 cars when I need to select a team.


What should I do ??

Have you purchased the cars?

Oh! hang on. I think you need to create a new profile to make the "unlock everything" work.

Yeah I purchased all the cars via the cheat file and I have them all in my garage but when I want to race I have the choice of all the cars but not the F1s !!!

Do you see this under Event Options?

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/wiltshire_tony/GTL%20F1%201967%202015-11-01%2013-23-54-59_zps9dhmz5gy.png)

No I don't have this in my event options !!!

So you haven't done it right then.

I think it's Step 4 that's missing or done wrong.

Will copy it again and hopefully it will fix the issue !!!

Thanks Tony

Have you determined which day of the week that these may run?

Yep https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=495&theme=5

What Tony means is they are on Mondays.  ;)

 :lol:

Hey I was being efficient  ;)

I have never installed GTL an it looks like I never will.

The standard game will not install from the disc. 

Are you trying to load GTL from disk on to a Windows 7 (or above) PC?

Don't be silly!

Xp here.  ;-)

The game now runs unless I try to create my profile. 

I can see all of the F1 cars at the "dealers"  (Very pretty but currently completely useless!) but what is all this rubbish about buying cars?

I can't see an option for the F1 season.

When GTL came out the idea was that to "unlock" cars you had to win "Cup" challenges. If you managed to finish all of the challenges you would have the content unlocked. When the game creators went bust an ex-employee posted a "fix" that allowed all of the content to be unlocked and also gave you loads of cash to buy further cars.
If you read through this post https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12125.msg217542#msg217542 it will explain the process and provide you with important links to essential add-ons.

You won't see an option for a F1 season. This isn't P&G  ::)

If Clive is installing from a disc, he may also need the v1.1 update available here:

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=776

Also to get online he will also need to do this.

If you cannot connect try changing your Lobby.txt file content to say

gtl-server.net

But keep your existing Lobby.txt file somewhere safe.

I think Altbierbude had a major server failure and they have moved the GTL lobby to an old location. This may be a temporary measure?

Thanks Geoffers, completely forgot about the 1.1 patch  ::)

Oh dear!

I knew I was asking for trouble!

Can these things be done to it now or do I need to start again?   :(

Also, it looked as though it was going to need a serial number to get on-line?  I have a STARFORCE CODE, which I have already put in to get it going, a GTR 2 ONLINE PLAY CODE and a GTR ONLINE PLAY CODE.  GTL doesn't get a mention.  Is the GTR reference a misprint?

I've never heard of a Starforce code. There is a code on the disk and another on the back page of your user manual or sometimes it's on a sticker inside the DVD case. If your being asked for a code to do Multiplayer then you need the latter code.

What GTR reference?

Like I said, I have online codes for GTR2 and GTR but the two game package is GTR2 and GTL.

EDIT:
Done the update and the contents cheat and it still crashes when I try to enter a Driver Profile.   :(

Must be a type then. Try it anyway. What could possibly go wrong?

Done the update and the contents cheat and it still crashes when I try to enter a Driver Profile.  

Any messages or just a CTD?

Message to say that GTL had encountered a problem and had to close.

Must have tried to install the rotten thing about half a dozen times now.

Honestly I'm struggling to think of what the problem could be. Fails are usually when you try to register for multiplayer but I don't think I've ever heard of a fail doing a new profile. This is some bundled software right?
because you mentioned GTR2 too.

Yes, it is the GTR2/GTL twinpack.  Very handy for installing the early PnG.

Appear to have GTL running but I've done all the steps and can't see any F1 cars.  ;-(

I can see the files but they don't appear in the dealer's list.

Do you see this under Event Options?

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/wiltshire_tony/GTL%20F1%201967%202015-11-01%2013-23-54-59_zps9dhmz5gy.png)

Yes.

If I go to either Open Practice or Quick Race (That'll be the day!)

I haven't applied the buy everything cheat yet.  Is that what the problem is?

Yes, you need to buy the cars

I now own all the tin-tops but no sign of any F1 cars.

EDIT:

Now have the cars after figuring out where I was putting them in error.   ::)

Now I need some force feedback!   ;-)

I had spotted that page.  Perhaps the Logitech Profiler hasn't spotted GTL yet?

I will investigate.

I don't use the Logitech Profiler so can anyone who does offer some helpful advice?

I now have all the FF that I can cope with.  I had to go into the .PLR file and change a 0 to a 1.

Just have to get online now.

It's asking for a serial number but I don't suppose for a minute that the online code that I have is going to work! 

Hi Clive,
 I use the Logitech profiler with different assignments and FFB settings across a number of different sims. Not sure if you are still having FFB issues or are all sorted now but if I can I'll help (I have much less FFB for the 67 install than I use for the normal UKGTL install). The game settings are the same but the FFB in the profiler is different for each install. (Under the "Edit" tab select "Specific Game Settings" (You need an appropriate profile created and loaded).

TTFN
John.

Thanks John,

It all seems to work.  Feels strange but then it probably should.  ;-)

I have been following your troubles Clive, but given my track record with PC's and software I thought it better to refrain from offering ANY comment.  ::)

Glad to see that you are now "installed"  ;D ( and Simon too!)

TBH I am really struggling with the difference between GPL and GTL  F1's. Driving GPL on Sunday evening and trying to get into GTL mode for Monday is not going to be easy ( if even possible!!).

As you might have guessed, I am going to try the Wazamobile for this season in GTL, but it is an entirely different beast to the GPL version so I will probably be at the tail of the field unless I can get my head around the setup/handling.

see you and simon on track this evening......if only from a long way behind.  :-\

Well at least for the first three rounds............. :devil:

Just tell me, have you retained the services of your normal pit crew?  If so, then I might have a chance.  I'm in the Ferrari and about three or four seconds off the times that have been posted on here!

I understand what you mean about switching from GPL.  I think that it is mainly the diff that is the root of it all.  I have tried switching the GTL diff from 100% to the minimum of 40% and can't tell the difference!  Do the equivalent in GPL and you would be visiting the scenery on opposite sides of the track!

hehe! I am now running an agency service for pitcrews and have manged to contract Arnold and Mabel to the organisers as auxiliary "helpers"  for all the other teams  ;D

P.S. The first novel in the Arnold and Mabel chronicles is well under way, and I might be releasing a beta version for review by peeps around here in a month or so.

During the race at Kyalami several drivers reported that they had seen different dials appear in their cockpit view. We have been unable to recreate this. Can I ask that you keep an eye out and if you see an unusual dial (revcounter) in your cockpit view take a screenshot if your able and let us know.

Thanks

Tony