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Title: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2015, 07:10:21 PM +0000
Round 4 Gentlemen  :)
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/MJ_p911/imola003_zps8v4b4xti.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/MJ_p911/media/imola003_zps8v4b4xti.jpg.html)


Booking: From 19:15 (BST) (60 mins)
Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qual: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 (15 Laps, approx 30 mins)

Cars allowed:
BMW E30 Grp A

Track: Imola GP
Time of Day Setting: 16:00
Weather: Mid Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=97
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=25
SESSION_TRANSFER=60

Damage: 70%

Server: simracing.org.uk
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

All drivers must be booked in to race before booking closes at 20:15 UK time.

IMPORTANT:
-The PLP app VERSION 1.5 - not used for this series

-BMW E30 skin pack required (You don't have to install but everyone else will be In stock skins from where you sit)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/baj1zjazybfaj4q/skins.rar?dl=0

unzip to your:-
C:Program Files (x86)SteamSteamAppscommonassettocorsacontentcarsbmw_m3_e30_graskins

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
(3) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct Assetto Corsa 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2015, 07:16:23 PM +0000
Apologies its Imola again ontop of Chris' round, but it was already in the season schedule. At least you all have plenty of practise on it now albeit the M-series will be a tad different in the handling department to a Lambo!  :P  Think these will be good fun around here  :)

If its possible to have the server running this combo this eve that would be handy? Want to get some laps in and check the number of laps required.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 20, 2015, 08:24:42 AM +0000
I don't mind it being the same track MJ. I normaly have to do a lot of laps to get comfortable on a "new" track. Now i already know the quirks of this track and can get some setup laps in with the little practice time i have available.
Did a few laps offline and it feels nice and tame after the Lambo  :angel:  Was doing a 2.09s on fast surface i believe.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: picnic on November 20, 2015, 08:37:42 AM +0000
If its possible to have the server running this combo this eve that would be handy? Want to get some laps in and check the number of laps required.
Is up now, sorry I didn't see the announcement till just now.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2015, 06:57:46 PM +0000
Did a few laps offline and it feels nice and tame after the Lambo  :angel:  Was doing a 2.09s on fast surface i believe.
You might need a bit more praccy, I was doing 2:04 on fast track with full race fuel.  ;) I was wondering if the cars a lot slower round here now, maybe since the tyre updates?  :-\ as I had a setup saved at a 2:01 time but I couldn't get near it in the half hour or so I tried.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2015, 12:59:23 PM +0000
I crept into the 2:03's but can one of you alien-esque drivers let me know what laptimes you can achieve so I can set the lap numbers correctly. Im guessing you can get 2:01's at least.  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jeffrey on November 21, 2015, 01:46:21 PM +0000
15 Laps should get you a bit above 30 minutes.

Can we get some clarification about the chicane. 2 Wheels on tarmac or all the way untill the grass (not touching the grass) allowed?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 23, 2015, 07:45:32 AM +0000
15 Laps should get you a bit above 30 minutes.

Can we get some clarification about the chicane. 2 Wheels on tarmac or all the way untill the grass (not touching the grass) allowed?

Ahh i see where i am losing time!  ::)
I will see if i can do some online praccy after the GTL race tonight. Maybe Jester or Chris will have a server up too?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: ChrisR on November 23, 2015, 10:36:06 AM +0000
I wont have unfortunatly.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 23, 2015, 12:30:10 PM +0000
Can we get some clarification about the chicane. 2 Wheels on tarmac or all the way untill the grass (not touching the grass) allowed?

I would imagine normal rules apply...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg65152#msg65152 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg65152#msg65152)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jester on November 23, 2015, 01:53:20 PM +0000
I will see if i can do some online praccy after the GTL race tonight. Maybe Jester or Chris will have a server up too?

Got a server running for today  :yes:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jeffrey on November 23, 2015, 04:05:41 PM +0000

I would imagine normal rules apply...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg65152#msg65152 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg65152#msg65152)

They are very vague. AC is very lenient at a lot of points, and I saw some blatant cutting at Donnington a while ago (2 wheels full on the grass). So hence I ask, better to have everybody on the same mindset before the race, than complain afterwards  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 23, 2015, 07:27:59 PM +0000
4 wheels off is never allowed in Motorsport as far as I'm aware (excusing some f1 drivers  ::) ) so think we can manage to keep two wheels on the black stuff. Will accept the odd indiscretion but if someone's gaining an advantage every lap from severe cutting then not on. Imola provides the normal kerbs and grass-Crete edging to help in the tighter corners which should be plenty.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jeffrey on November 23, 2015, 07:42:21 PM +0000
4 wheels off is never allowed in Motorsport as far as I'm aware (excusing some f1 drivers  ::) ) so think we can manage to keep two wheels on the black stuff.
Well, add 5 seconds to my laptime then  :P.

Will accept the odd indiscretion but if someone's gaining an advantage every lap from severe cutting then not on. Imola provides the normal kerbs and grass-Crete edging to help in the tighter corners which should be plenty.  :)

We can go all the way on the green stuff on the outside (not the grass for the smart guys here  :P).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 23, 2015, 08:04:54 PM +0000
We can go all the way on the green stuff on the outside (not the grass for the smart guys here  :P).
If you're using all that green stuff then you're obviously going too fast. SLOW DOWN!  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: ChrisR on November 24, 2015, 12:17:37 AM +0000
usually the unwritten rule is as long as 2 tyres are inside the white track lines at all times then its acceptable..



Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 24, 2015, 09:54:42 AM +0000
Thanks for having the server up and running Jester. Did quite a few laps and managed to shave 1.6sec of my PB. After my stint re-did my setup again and it feels better, so maybe i can find another second. However this still does not get me anywhere near the 2.03s or faster mark, so it won't be much of a race for me i guess. Will see tomorrow eve if i feel like bringing up the rear of the field.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 24, 2015, 08:40:57 PM +0000
I wouldn't worry too much about matching my times Stefan, don't forget I've so far spent every round in no mans land between the aliens and the chasing pack plus I haven't got near my wheel in 4 days  :( There was a gaggle of cars having a good race at the last Beemer round.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: spanner on November 24, 2015, 09:25:46 PM +0000
Am doing 2:08s on a good lap with fuel using my hochenheimring setup.

New tyre model having an impact where the hot pressures are lower than the cold ones which make no sense!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Animal Ed on November 25, 2015, 04:23:18 PM +0000
We could have an game update today ...

https://twitter.com/KunosStefano/with_replies

Part of testing is public and is scheduled for 18:45 (17:45 bst)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: ChrisR on November 25, 2015, 05:28:07 PM +0000
update has been released :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: picnic on November 25, 2015, 05:50:49 PM +0000
Can you still connect to the server or does it need updating before the race?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jester on November 25, 2015, 06:06:33 PM +0000
Can you still connect to the server or does it need updating before the race?

Server does need the update, got checksum error at the moment.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: picnic on November 25, 2015, 06:56:41 PM +0000
Thanks, just trying to download the update as I type from Steam, then I'll have to upload it


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: picnic on November 25, 2015, 07:14:30 PM +0000
Looks ok, just starting the race server, it'll be up in a couple of minutes


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: picnic on November 25, 2015, 07:21:53 PM +0000
Server up for bookings


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 25, 2015, 07:30:02 PM +0000
Good work chaps  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 25, 2015, 07:47:55 PM +0000
Chaps I can't see a password anywhere. The race doesn't look like its linked into LM2i properly so maybe why its not displaying. Anyone PM me the password?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 25, 2015, 08:13:37 PM +0000
Only 3 minutes left before booking ends. I tried the usual practice password but it says "invalid" so must be something else and I haven't a clue what it is. All the other race threads have passwords in them but not this one.  :(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jeffrey on November 25, 2015, 08:16:20 PM +0000
Only 3 minutes left before booking ends. I tried the usual practice password but it says "invalid" so must be something else and I haven't a clue what it is. All the other race threads have passwords in them but not this one.  :(

I pmed you 10 minutes ago  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 25, 2015, 08:17:48 PM +0000
I pmed you 10 minutes ago  :-\

Thx, but it didnt turn up till after booking ended. Oh well. Next time. I had done 8 laps practice too for a change!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 25, 2015, 08:27:19 PM +0000
im struggling to get in too, stupid steam didn't do the update first time and I got a checksum error and kicked. Its now doing a download at dial up speeds so not sure I will get in on time  :'(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: spanner on November 25, 2015, 09:00:44 PM +0000
Tonight i seemed to be suffering badly from my brake pedal spiking. Because of it I only really got a single qually lap and in the race there too many people around to have to press it fully to clear it as i'd get someone up my back. So in the first 2 laps i ended up at the back with it as it slowed me significantly >:(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Bob on November 25, 2015, 09:05:12 PM +0000
Sorry I didn't support tonight's race, been under the weather a bit hope to be back next week.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jester on November 25, 2015, 09:32:04 PM +0000
UKAC ETCC season 1 replays (https://mega.nz/#F!qhABSIqL!D6sCRv46ItcKUIco4sYDQQ)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: picnic on November 25, 2015, 09:38:18 PM +0000
>>>>> LAP Charts <<<<< (http://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/ac/imola 25_11_2015.htm)

(http://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/ac/imola 25_11_2015.png)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on November 25, 2015, 10:05:59 PM +0000
jeez what a night of misfortune that turned out to be  :'(

had troubles logging in as the game didn't update properly, then when I got in I had no engine sounds so had to exit the game again  ::) Been ill last few days so had no practise since Saturday, and so missing tonights practise and half qually scuppered me.

Still....got in with about 5mins of qual remaining and bagged 4th or 5th on the grid  :)

Only to find from lap one the car felt nothing like it had in all my practise sessions under braking and had developed a snap sensation (felt like a differential change) or braking anomaly which wanted to kill me in half a dozen corners. Hence my questions about server settings or car update at end.  :-\
Mixed it with the big boys for about 2 laps at the beginning but just couldn't live with them and dropped back into my usual 'behind the aliens' ringside seat.
Never got near my pb, in fact 1.1 secs off it so don't know whats changed unless id got rusty since Saturday  ???

To rub salt in the wounds my race-long held 4th place was lost to Erik on the final corner complex on the last lap when under braking the car pitched me off the track and gave Erik an easy position gain  :'( Just a bit miffed at that  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: frex on November 26, 2015, 11:14:48 AM +0000
Fun race again, thanks all.

Congrats podium.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: ChrisR on November 26, 2015, 11:16:35 AM +0000
funny you should say that mark, when i was practising on the server throughout the week i was getting 2'03 on mediums all night long, on softs i was 2'01's consistantly even at 96% tyres.. and i was no where near my 2'00 PB.. the time of day was the same wasnt it? as i know that will effect the grip.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 26, 2015, 11:19:50 AM +0000
Jeeze, probably a good job I wasn't there then, as I was managing 2:06/2:07 in my practice laps! I'm obviously missing something with these cars to be so far off the pace as I don't feel like there's lots of time to find for me.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jeffrey on November 26, 2015, 11:32:02 AM +0000
Jeeze, probably a good job I wasn't there then, as I was managing 2:06/2:07 in my practice laps! I'm obviously missing something with these cars to be so far off the pace as I don't feel like there's lots of time to find for me.

You can try my setup posten in a previous thread. For me that gave me a few seconds compared to the horrible default serup.
IiRC you have a smooth driving style, and I think these cars work better being thrown around.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 26, 2015, 11:33:39 AM +0000
IiRC you have a smooth driving style, and I think these cars work better being thrown around.
I don't think it's my setup, by I have meant to try your manic setup out anyway. You're right I'm not a chuck it in sideways kind of driver though, even though that's fun, it normally results in the track needing some barrier repairs.  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jester on November 26, 2015, 05:21:11 PM +0000
So some went slower than what they did before, but I was somehow 2sec faster than what I was able to do  ???
Had an excellent start and went slow through turn 1 to be on the safe side, but then at turn 4 the car decided to keep going left  >:(  So it was trying to climb from the back up to the front. At one point I had a good place to overtake Chris (Sutol), but the bloody shifter didn't go in gear, so that was another loss in time. With a lap after I did pass him, I nearly lost it to him again as the car did again a snap oversteer. I finally came to the one I was aiming at (MJ) as he was to only one I thought, I was able to catch before the end. Unfortunately I made a few mistakes and only got to MJ in the last lap and with no clear idea on his braking points it was only hoping for a drag race for the finish-line. Unfortunate for him, he had the bleeding snap at the final double lefthander, giving me fourth place.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: spanner on November 26, 2015, 08:13:08 PM +0000
Not sure how significant it is but in the announcements it specifies a time of day and a cloud cover. However when you set up an offline session it also asks for a temperature. I find the conditions are sublty different when i got on the server.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: ChrisR on November 27, 2015, 11:33:27 PM +0000
when you setup a server it should automatically select the temps based on the weather and the time of day.. so if the time of day are the same and the cloud cover is the same it 'should' be the same when you go on your own server. i personally leave these values as default but i don't know what mark does.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Jester on December 03, 2015, 03:45:59 PM +0000
Would be nice to know what track you've chosen for coming Wednesday, MJ  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: Mark J on December 03, 2015, 11:22:59 PM +0000
Yes I know sorry, so manic at work at the moment not had a chance  :(
It will be Spa Francochamps for the final round  :)
I tried this car there a few weeks ago and it was great. It gets its legs stretched a bit more and had a nice flow.

With the help of my able assistants (Tony and Pete) will get a race thread put up  :) :-*


Title: Re: UKAC Season 1 ETCC - Imola - Nov 25th
Post by: spanner on December 06, 2015, 10:09:22 AM +0000
You used to be the first to moan if next weeks race wasnt posted up straight after the previous one ;)