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Track: Zolder '67 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg203765#post_zolder67)

Cars allowed: Pelle B's Mini Carset Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/eb71h2b84huc5cz/Org_GTL_DK_Cooper_S_8Pack_v12.zip), Skoda 130RS Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_skoda_130rs), Abarth 1000TC

Pelle has provided his Mini car setup here (http://www.mediafire.com/download/m5ryedecvcg9fpb/Pelle_B%27s_Mini_setup.zip)

No car choice restrictions.

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins)
Race 1: 20:30 (12 laps)

Practice (Car change if wanted): ~20:50 (10 mins)
Qualifying: ~21:00 (10 mins)
Race 2: ~21:10 (12 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Early race start time.

Hi Tony, re Pelle B's Mini Carset, have I screwed up with this download  ??? ? Only it appears to me to be a skin set for Minis with the same car numbers as  the standard cars; they drive, using the same setups and sound the same as the standard Minis provided with GTL.  ::)

Yep, but they should look different? e.g. wide wheel arches?

Thanks, couldn't see that from behind the wheel when I was driving one. :devil:

Will probably miss this one unless our coach tour is cancelled.

1:49.6 in the mini, 1:51.0 in the Skoda. Skoda could do with some more grunt methinks  ::)

Coach tour is go! CYA, except Tony at Meadowdale, on 7 March. Best of luck here, have a good race.  ;D

Are you, or am I, on the right circuit Matt ?  Coz, my first flying lap ever in one of these cars this evening ( the Mini) was a 1:40?? and that was with a "guess of a setup". i have not even downloaded Pelle's offering yet.

Something smells wrong to me................. ::) and it ain't burning rubber  ;)


It smells like an S KAD mini................... sry guys I had wrong car, but it was a nice feeling while it lasted!!!  ::)

Have a good time Bill and hands of the Salisbury lasses.

Being a west country lad myself and having even travelled as far as the fringes of Wiltshire when my horse was younger.

I would say that if Bill feels that his health is strong enough to take on Salisbury girls, then he has a reckless regard for his own wellbeing!!!! :whistling:

Yes I  was born in Somerset, on edge of Exmore. 8) ;)

(http://www.gt-legends.dk/GTLDK/images/smilies/happybday.gif)Tony  ;D

...maybe a surprise more, I will try to participate in this series  :laugh:

I have not run GTL in almost a year, so I'm rusty...but I'd love to see how the Mini Cooper can stand against Skoda. Hope of course I can help TEAM-GTLDK some point in this series.
It's not because I've dropped sim racing completely, now go time in the old sim from 1998, Grand Prix Legends. I participate for example in UKGPL, but unfortunately only number 2 in the overall standings...TEAM-GTLDK are ahead of Team Championship  ;)

The history of this Mini Cooper series:
It can be fun with the Mods, but the disadvantage is always people being spread a little more each time. I got the idea, Mini Cooper should be nicer/more fun to look at, but at the same time be completely original.
I threw myself into things I could not solve & had to be helped by GeeDee (Gordon) here from UK. There were things we had to give up, for example, to get the steering wheel on the left side, but it was close to work, there was too much conflict with everything else.
It actually started with the idea to build Italian Job, but there are also some history on the cars, such as the Silver Jubilee 25. The funniest build...a Mini GT40, or went it completely wrong  ;)

My attempt to make it a little more fun to drive Mini...hope you like it  :laugh:
(http://www.gt-legends.eu/Fun/Pictures/Cooper_S/Org_GTL_8Pack/CooperS_8_Pack.jpg)

Mini Cooper s the best  ;) I look forward  the races  8)

Welcome back Pelle ! :-)

Attention Drivers

Late addition is Abarth 1000TC

Is there a problem with the starter not working on the Skoda or is it just my install?  ???

Does anybody have a setup for the Skoda?

Would like to add a more aggressive sound for the Skoda (same for the stock Abarth)  ...  ::)

Will be on a meeting with colleagues monday night for dinner night but expect to be back home in time.
Finally want to participate again  ;D

BTW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07rT1t2hkDU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07rT1t2hkDU)  8)

I thought that I also had a problem with the starter on the Skoda, it just seems to "self start" after a couple of seconds  ???. But unlike most other cars in GTL, there is no initial blip of throttle to kick the rev counter into life to tell you that the engine is running.
The engine does sound a little anaemic and gutless even when you wring every available revolution out of the engine!!

Just tried both the ( correct) Mini and the Skoda this evening,  and like others who have posted, I find the Mini quickest, but strangely I find the Skoda easier to drive??  I guess I have not really mastered the FWD driving style or setups..

EDIT ......................SATURDAY
maybe there is a problem with the Skoda??  I escaped the fun warden this afternoon and tried a few more laps in these two cars. Everything was Ok until I had a spin in the Skoda. I did not hit anything, simply stalled the engine....but could not restart it???
Anyone else experienced this???

Yep, me.

Also am I right? We can us the same car for both races. 

 "simply stalled the engine." Yes i noticed  ???

Perhaps the problem is that...Skoda is made realistic  ;D

Yep, you can use any car in any race, no restrictions.

Hi guys, my left foot is swollen and when i push brake pedal i have many pain. I will take a painkiller so i hope tomorrow to make race but in this moment i don't sure to make race   :cursing:

Hope your well enough to take part Ziu. Maybe just do one race?

Hi Tony, I took an anti-inflammatory and have improved, so it is possible that I can do the 2 races. I did some laps with a muscle car and the pain is bearable. In addition to brake with the Mini or the Skoda need much less force, then it's possible ..... yesterday i was really worried but medicine and a little rest helped me  :thumbup1:

Detects just this & the setup can actually be used, if: Gearbox 1 click below & click one more air in the rear tires...& my time was: 1:46.8

Sry I'm a bit heavy, but that should be changed car between each race?

1:51.9 in the Skoda so far  ??? ::)

Pelle B ,, 1:46.8xx i think good time  ;)  1:45.xxx achievable ?

So... I understand that you already have a time of 1.45  ;)

Imaginable Jose  ;)

Abarth 1000TC only 1 carskin here #450  ???

yep

A first for me..................server connection lost midway through the second race  >:(

Grats Ati for the double.

Sorry Erling i bump you, not good day for me. I m tired to racing, sorry again.

2xBig Grats Ati  :thumbup2:...is it an advertisement, but I keep on nvidia & I will use it in the next race ;D

My training was not optimal, had race at Silverstone (EOLC) & Monza (UKGPL) Yesterday in Grand Prix Legends...only number 3 in both race  >:(

Thank you all, I had a fun day here at Zolder  :thumbup1:

Big thanks to all in our TEAM-GTLDK, fun to meet you Again  :clap:

Results and replay now posted.

I'm going away to re-think the format of the remaining races in this series.

I said it, but it's a difficult task to find a car with the same times as the Cooper S, but we were running really fast today. If we take the best time from ABB (LowGuard): 1:46.189
My guess was NSU TT, but it's approximately 1 sec faster than the Cooper S: 1:45.299

Too many aliens aorund  ;D ;D ;D

2 fun races!

1st of all a big sorry to Geoffers. I was too optimistic ....  :( but was a great battle.
2nd race was very very fun with Geoffers and Ati. Very close race guys!


Race 1 (http://googledrive.com/host/0B0VLrTJJX8K-YjFWT2psdW5MbEE/index.html)

Race 2 (http://googledrive.com/host/0B0VLrTJJX8K-TEROSUt3WnNyMW8/index.html)

Thanks Josè  :D

Two nice ones for me. Last place doesn't matter. Only surviving Skoda twice  ;D. The Skoda is not that fast but fun to drive and I could improve to times below 1:50 in the
closing stages of race2.  :)

The NSU in my opinion would be a nice addition to the grid, maybe also the R8 Gordini , but I would like to see the Skoda still included.

BTW - at the moment there are lots of new cars (BLT, Team Protobuilders and others) released (and still to come) and skins over at NoGrip and also at Evolution Modding - so maybe there'll be more choices.

Nice race, nice turnout, thanks Tony and all involved for all your efforts.

CU next week.

Well that did not work out too well!

I knew that I was faster in the Mini by about 1.5secs, but hey!!! I always like a challenge, so I opted to take the Skoda and see just how it would compare. maybe changing back to the Mini for the second race if I was 3 laps behind ::)

I was all set to go for a qualli lap in race 1 and my daughter phoned and insisted on telling me her life history, which strangely enough I had a fair idea about. By the time I had diplomatically passed the phone to my wife and returned to the computer.........you lot had started without me!!!  :censored: :censored:

I sat there kicking my heels whilst you all had fun and waited for the 2nd race.
Do I take a Mini or the Skoda???  awww shucks" lets do the Skoda thing again I decided.
Quali went well and I was far higher on the grid than I expected with a PB. The start was good and I got a sneaky run up the inside to T1 and stole a place . I witnessed a few exchanges of door mirrors and paint samples through laps 1 & 2 and gained a few places as a result.

It was clear that the Mini was the faster car around here and I was losing ground on every straight, but provided I kept the lines tidy I could just about keep up through the corners.
For about 6 laps I was working the wheels off that Skoda to try and stay in touch with the leading bunch, but slowly they were easing away and more scary was a recovering Erling closing in from behind!!

The inevitable happened and he eased past on the straight, but I was determined to make his life difficult if I could and threw that weedy Skoda into his slipstream...is a Mini big enough to create slipstream??

Maybe I was trying just a little too hard when I put a rear wheel on the grass and the car snapped around and hit the concrete bridge. Despite dipping the clutch immediately the engine stalled and that was it with no way of re starting a stalled Skoda the race was over for me.
Great fun whilst it lasted, just a bit miffed that I did not get it to the finish, and I think I dipped into the 1:47's which was satisfying.

Grats to the podium guys and all finishers.....might have to re think the Skoda for future races as it is definitely down on pace against those Minis even if it is fun to drive.

No worries Ziu; just a racing incident.

Liked the Skoda, but with a 1:49.3 time as pb, I couldn't ignore that I was 2 secs faster in the Mini (before my pb improvements in qual) - in this Intergalactic Cup, I need all the help I can get..  ;)

Happy with qual in both races, as I set a new pb in both.

Race 1:
5th on grid.  Hold clutch depressed and revs up, as countdown goes below 10 secs. It reaches 'GO'; I let out the clutch, press the accelerator harder and... Nothing!!   :scared: :scared:   I had forgotten to select a gear.. :censored:  By the time I got going and reached T1, I was down to 11th.  Made up places and caught up to 'The Red Trio' (Bob, Matt & Ziu)  Got past all of them; Ziu when he went off at T1.  Kept him behind for a couple of laps, but then a less than stellar line through the final chicane by me let him past, as he carried more momentum down the start/finish straight.  Chased him hard for the rest of the race. Got alongside a couple of times, but had to back off to avoid incident, so he stayed in front till the end.

Race 2:
4th on grid and a better start - managed to keep my 4th, but at T1, no less than 3 cars squeezed past on the inside. Reclaimed a couple of places on L1, but didn't help much, as I got bumped off at T1 the next lap and dropped from 5th to 10th.  Again made up places and eventually caught Clive. Some slipstreaming helped me past, and it looked like we could have a good scrap, but then his engine noise suddenly disappeared and I caught a glimpse of his wildly spinning car in my mirror  :(  Bad luck Clive; looked in replay like you became a victim of that vicious snap oversteer the Skoda is prone to (rear engine antics ?)

Surprised to see Geoffers up ahead; he must have had an incident, as he was notably faster than me. No chance of catching him then and he slowly pulled away.  Start of final lap, I passed a recovering red Mini at T1. "Hmm, who is that ?" Activate driver tags and look behind: "Uh oh, it's Jose!"  :o  Could I possibly keep him behind for the rest of the lap ?  Well, I could certainly try.. ;D  Managed - only just; it was bloody close right to the finish.

Grats to podiums in both races and thanks to Tony.  Compliments also to Pelle for the great-looking cars.

Did have a strange problem with Mini #40 though.  Looks like a Gulf coloured Mini in my garage, but in race and replay, it's a Rothmans Mini, like KAD Mini #40. Was also listed as a KAD Mini in race, although it didn't appear to be faster than the others.  Got mismatch messages from drivers using it too.  Any ideas what could be wrong ?

Cheers,
Erling

Don't call me daughter Not fit to......  ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqEqsJUCuk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqEqsJUCuk)

If you give me the number, I'll call him next time..  ;D ;D

Seriously Clive; why didn't your wifey ansver the phone in the first place - she must be able to see that you're in the middle of something very important..  :)

Cheers,
Erling

Sounds like a file name clash, probably need to remove the KAD from your install.


Some great racing as always in Minis, just not the results to go with it.

1st race, I made a couple of mistakes in the early laps which let Ati & Jose get away. Gradually reeled Jose in & got ahead but couldn't shake him off, unfortunately ended with a coming together on the final lap & me disappearing over the bank into the trees  :o

Race 2 was more intense. Grabbed the lead half way round lap 1 & held on to it for several laps with Ati & Jose snapping at my heels. A grassy moment at the final turn let Ati through but I managed to stay glued to his bumper, too close actually as I rear-ended him at T2 a couple of laps later  ::). Justice was done though as I came off worst & spun off. Dropped me to 5th, although with Jose going off on the final lap I came home 4th.

Congrats to Ati on 2 fine wins  :clap:

Cya all at Zandvoort.

Tell you what.... I'll give you my wife's number and you can try and explain why being on the grid is more important than speaking with my daughter.........  ::)

Sort out your daughter with Teamspeak, then she can talk to you all race long  :thumbup1:

I'll give it a shot, but if she's in the slightest bit the inspiration behind Mabel, I fear I will not succeed.. ;)

Cheers,
Erling

Any resemblance between ANY woman that I know, and Mabel, is purely coincidental.

I am not risking my health and wellbeing by insinuating that the character is based upon anyone that I know.................... :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:

It sure was great to get into a mini again on the track.  I tried my best to make the Skoda the car I was going to drive but as others said was about 1.5 to 2 seconds slower, plus the fact it is not very forgiving to the kerbs and a little grass off.
R1 I spent most of the race trying to get Matt in a bad position to get by him but it didn't happen.  We must have been running different gears because he was faster in some parts of the track, and I in others.
R2 started well and I was following Clive in the Skoda just kind of feeling him out and in T1/T2 got too close and spun him around after a tag on his rear quarter panel.  Pulled over and waited for him to go by and the rest of the field also.  I saw in the replay he made a quick 360 spin and carried on without losing a place.  See the Skoda being a spinner can be a good thing!  Anyway took off in last and worked my way up to a 9th place finish.  Like I said before Good Fun.  See you all next week, big switch from mini's to F1 cars..........

Bob M.

I was looking forward to Monday’s races having missed the last three. I found that I was about one and a half seconds off my best practice time offline for some reason. I wondered if I had forgotten to save and overwrite my last set up but I have found before that some nights you just don’t have it and I think that was the case.

Race 1
I made a good start then a couple of slight errors but all was going OK and was getting quite interesting in  the midfield until my car decided to try to swop ends at Turn one and I went wide onto the grass. As I was looking to feed back onto the track I was hit by another car that made the same mistake. I not only ended up last after that but my car was pulling sharply to the left. To turn left I just had to take my hands off the wheel. Braking and turning right was a real problem. I decided to give it one lap before pitting and somewhat to my surprise I found d I could adjust to the handling problems and I managed to close on a Skoda in front of me and pass it. It gave me something to do to keep me interested and proved that even an injured Mini has an advantage over the Skoda.  I found for me the Mini was about two seconds a lap faster although the Skoda was nice to drive. I guess considering the handling problem misfortune I had to be reasonably happy with my race and hoped for much better luck in race 2.

Race2
I got slightly blocked at the start, found myself trying to contest a space with two other Minis, only room for two and three into two does not go. I ended up bumping one onto the grass gaining a place so slowed and flashed him to come back past. I accelerated up behind him but he suddenly stopped having bumped a near stationary Skoda in front of him. I bumped the back of him again sending me spinning onto the grass and into a fence. Beginning to feel this wasn’t going to be my night, now last and playing catch up again. I began to close on the back markers when I came across a red Mini that had obviously suffered an incident so took him on the outside. As I did so I suddenly saw a stationary Mini right in front of me on the track. There was a slight gap on the outside so I instinctively swerved half onto the grass to avoid him. Don’t know if I hit him or if he was a frozen ghost car but the next moment I was in the fence. When I re-joined the steering felt somewhat wobbly I had that feeling of Déjà vu. Strangely my replay showed no car in front of me at that point and the downloaded replay showed the car further up the track and two thirds on the grass. That’s GTL online I guess. I started to chase a Skoda again but the car decided to take things into its own hands and put me out of my misery by suddenly developing a mind of its own and scuttling across the grass approaching a corner and depositing me balanced on top of a bank with the back wheels in the air and the driving wheels obviously not making sufficient contact with the ground for me to move. I decided to go out in a blaze of glory by blowing the engine (they come free in GTL). However after about a minute I had only reduced the engine condition by one percent. I wish the suspension was as bullet proof as that engine. I decided to give in gracefully and retire myself from the race.  :surrender:
Not my best evenings racing.  :(

Grats to all finishers and podiums.   :clap:

You hit the nail on the head!

Tried moving the #40 KAD Mini folder to out of my GTL installation and voila: Gulf Mini in replay  :)

Cheers,
Erling

Good races,great car.Nice battle Jose and Geoffers.Yesterday bad luck,bad Mini setup loading  :o  Special setup better  ;) 1:44.xxx i think good  8)  Grats and thanks all,see you next race (sorry,google translator)
Practicing laptime 1:45.073 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPOfkX8p1zQ&feature=youtu.be

Now that's one smooth lap Atilla..  :o

Cheers,
Erling

Await your deliberations, with bated breath!  ;)

Reads like a couple of interesting races, CYA at Meadowdale.