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Track: Sebring 1970 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_sebring1970)

Cars allowed: Mercury Cougar TA from the 1960's carset Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_american_v8) , Chevrolet Camaro Z28 from the 1970's carset Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_american_v8) , '66 Shelby Mustang TA, 340 Plymouth Barracuda and the 1968 Pontiac Firebird all from this carset Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pe41p6divqam78y/Old_Geezers_add-on_car_pack.zip)

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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (12 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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Oops! Barracuda 340  :o  Very good  8)

But only two times  ;)

Just installed the cars & track, one problem. I don't have a 340 Plymouth Barracuda!

I have a Plymouth SC Cuda & a Plymouth Roadrunner, but no Barracuda!

In the Extra Cars folder you should have a folder called 1968 Plymouth Barracuda.

Oops my fault, I thought it was in the 60s car download, but it is in the 3rd download, which for some reason I can't access. I click on the mediafire link & it just sits there not doing anything! Well it comes up with a blank page anyway.

I have just downloaded it myself, maybe try again?

No cancel that it finally worked after about 5 gos!

Ok, think your sorted. Shout out if there is still a problem

All working OK now Tony, thanks.

Tried a few laps last night to learn the track & it appears there is quite a lot of scope for driving outside the bollards marking the course, particularly exiting T1 & some of the corners later in the lap onto the runway sections. How much of this will be tolerated? I only ask because on my small monitor it is quite difficult to see the bollards as they are quite small & don't stand out very well. But with some practice it shouldn't be too difficult to keep inside them.

Not much.  This track is very generous with the cut warnings, so you'll really have to watch it.

Cheers,
Erling

Oh, I didn't get one, maybe I have them turned off!  ??? Have to check tonight.

You have to watch out for crossing the faint white lines that defines the racing track limits through the first two turns. They can catch you out as you might believe you have all the tarmac width to play with.

Old Geezers Trans- Am Series should be fun. I don’t like the first track though. The last time I drove it I think I broke all records for S&Gs due to track cuts.  >:D I usually don’t get track cuts. I must practice more this time to find where the margins are.  ??? They seemed to vary depending on what sort of mood my PC was in.  :devil:

Wot Tony said. It seems the limits are the yellow cones, put a wheel over the yellow cones at many places, inside or outside
of turns and you get a cut track. Drove several people to near suicide with frustration last time we ran here.
No my fave track either, partly because of the vague track limits, and partly because it's not very interesting
though the races usually work ok.

Perhaps a good track to use your car with least potential?

Its unusual because it is one of those tracks where the modern track is better than the old one.

Not my favorite track's either, but it's were the racing year started back in the day because of the Florida weather.  Sebring was kind of like Daytona Speed Weeks is now.  The modern Sebring is much better, but this one was a converted race track from a airport. Had to use what you could back then before the big money made specific road racing tracks.  Another track thats a tough one is Green Valley which was a big drag race complex, and used the strip, return road and pit access roads.  Trans Am was kind of sanctioned by the Sports Club of America, so they raced mostly with their meets. 
Trans Am originally was broken up in two classes--Under 2 liter class which had the Cortinas, Alfas ,Minis and such.  Over 2 liter to 5 liter were the cars we will race, and  later they dropped the under 2's from the series after a few years when the numbers of 5L cars became more popular.  They all raced at the same time so their was some mayhem as you can imagine.  The under 2's won some overalls by the way.  Would be great if we could get 30 or so cars and race both U-2's and O-2's.........

Didjaknow:  Pontiac Motor Division paid the Trans Am organization $5.00 for every Trans Am Firebird they produced!!!!!!!!!!  Copywrited  name....

Bob M.

Tony, Unable to log on to the lobby. Have downloaded the host file (using your link) but not clear how to incorporate it in my Season 16 GTL. Wasted time last night changing my local lobby file many times without success.

Help.  ???

What does your lobby file currently have in it? It should just have this

91.121.27.29

Thanks Tony, now changed to the above - still unable to log on.  Do I need to do anything else with the Host File?

Incidentally the GTL F1 Shows our Monday Sebring 70 in the Lobby, it's Local_IP_Lobby is gtl-server.net.

But, if I change Season 16 GTL lobby to gtl-server.net it still doesn't log on!

Help Please

The server may not of been running. It wasn't when I checked late this morning so I re-started it. Set everything back to how you had it when you joined our last GTL race.

Neither of the two local lobbies I've used before is working. My master copy logs on using the same line as works with my Season 16 F1. Need to knock off a quick copy and install tomorrow's track and car sets. Hopefully that will work!

Sorted, I installed a number of files since I last was able to log on, so I deleted and re-installed a couple and luckily hit on the problem file first time.  Hooray! :jumpjoy: :rockon:

Hi Tony .... just wanted to make sure i could test server,for tonight , but i can not see it can see the backup server?

Server was off when I came home. I have restarted it now so you should see us in the lobby.

Thank You Tony

@ louisam (currently online): Shelby GT500 is not included in this series !!!

Sorry folks if I screwed up anybody's practice, checked the cars twice  seemed to be all the right cars, even tried different car second time.  Same second time except I had trouble getting out of GTL.

Tomorrow when I'm fresh will look at uninstalling all the cars and reinstalling them again.

Had a go at it will try and log on when race finished, only I want to sort out in time for next Trans Am race!

Replay and results now posted.

Welcome Louis  :thumbup2:

I didn’t hear the starter so was a bit slow away but made up a few places in the first couple of laps. I think on lap three I got my breaking wrong and bumped Tony at the sharp righthander (sorry about that). I hadn’t managed to get a clean lap in for one reason or another but had some close racing. Just as I was hoping to get into some kind of rhythm I lost my bearings slightly after I was undertaken and got two Cut Track and a S&G on the same corner. After that I lost interest with my S&G history on this track so pulled into the pits, skipped the S&G and retired. I see the reason for my retirement says electronics. I guess that means the failure of the circuits in my brain.

Grats to winner and podiums.  :clap:

First of all I want to thank everyone for joining this series, great turnout and to Tony for putting all the information together for the series.  I confess that the reason that I thought up the idea of a 50th anniversary Trans Am series was sorta self centered as I have always liked the V8's a lot and was afraid we might not have one this year.  Anyway pitched the idea to Tony and we went with it.  The tracks are as close as I could get to 1966/67 seasons and the cars also.  Hope you enjoy the rest of them.
My race was terrible.  Around L6 or 7 I must have injured my suspension, because if I braked hard it would either pull left or right. Got three cuts almost at the next three corners.  Went to serve my time and then picked up a speeding ticket in the pits.  By that time everything had a RED tint to it.........Did finish but last on the track.  Maybe bad start means good finish!!!

Again thanks all
Bob M.

Edit:Welcome Louis to Monday racing.

From 1 UKGTL Newbie to another... Welcome aboard Louis.

Well, I think the 1st lap mess was my fault, sorry guys, I thought I had been nudged myself but the replay shows it was all my own doing. A fair bit of jostling during the 1st few bends I tapped Clive who hit marcfvs. In case my fears were realised  I decided to wait until everyone was safely away so from 7th to last in a few corners..

I wasn't even expecting to make this one as I was expecting to be working away again this week so didn't even download the track and car packs until Friday evening. Tried all the cars and the Cougar felt the easiest for me so went with it for the race.

My Start was abysmal, I launched ok and then had to get off the gas PDQ as Matt was very slow off the line, the result was I was swallowed up by the pursuing masses by Turn 1, then the incident at T3 and I was trailing the field by some way. Caught Louis in the run down from the Esses where he outbraked himself and I was up to 15th. Caught SpecialKS at the entry to the back straight and out dragged him down to the next corner so up to 14th and making ground on the Mid pack by the end of the lap.

Onto Lap 3 and held a tighter line than ccstevecc through T1 and up to 13th.. Nudged roguk entering the Esses (Sorry) but no issues and we both continued unhurt. Down to the Hairpin and I found Mayhem had ensued. Passed roguk, marcfvs & Misnoimis on the exit and put the pedal to the metal in an attempt to get to the next corner before Tony, made it by the skin of my teeth but more through Tony's experience rather than any great prowess on my part I think. Tony was then over me like a rash for the next few corners and outbraked me at the end of the back straight but ran wide on the exit and I took the place back.

Over the next few laps the noise of Tony's Z28 was replaced by marcfvs's Cougar who was now beginning to get very interested in getting past, meanwhile I was making ground on Bob M but under the scrutiny of marc's attentions my driving was becoming somewhat ragged and sure enough just as I was thinking about making life very unpleasant for Bob I put 2 wheels on the grass and marc was through so back to 10th.

The next few laps were devoted to slowly reeling Bob in again It was obvious from my seat that he was having a few issues under braking and I finally outbraked him into the turn onto the back straight so back to 9th. Bob then pitted at the end of the lap S&G perhaps??

The final few laps were fairly lonely, I caught the odd glimpse of marc but he was steadily putting distance between us.

Finally on the last lap I found Clive recovering from a spin at the hairpin but he was just too far ahead for me to capitalise on his misfortune so I had to content myself with following him home.

Wasn't entirely sure of the etiquette regarding "Track Cut" messages. I got 2 during the race but assumed if I needed to do a S&G GTL would tell me so continued in both cases.


Congratulations to the Podium and everyone who joined.

TTFN
John.

Yep, GTL will tell you if you have "won" a S&G

If anyone needs proof that aliens are among us, they need only look at the qualification laptimes of the front runners; that should dispel any doubts..  :eek:

6th on the grid myself.  Poor start, but apparently Matt's was even worse, as I slipped in front of him on the run to T1.  That was the start of a race long chase. I would gain a little on the straights, and Matt would claw it back in the corners, most notably T1-T2-T3, where he was much quicker. Wondered where he got all that grip from, but replay suggests it was at least partially because he had found a faster line.

On L2, I got a bad exit from the very tight right hander, and we were side by side on the run down to the 90-deg right-left combination. No way we would both fit through that tight corner, so I braked early, as Matt was on the inside. He overshot however, so I could dive under and reclaim the position. When exiting the left hander, a dustcloud among the trees ahead signaled that one of the front runners had gone off, and I inherited 4th.

Chased by Matt over the next many laps, until a car crept up behind Matt. Brief check revealed it to be Jose. Hoped he could keep Matt occupied, but alas, soon it was me being occupied by him  ;)  Only briefly though, as he quickly went past and disappeared.  On the following lap, I handed Matt a golden opportunity to pass, when I went wide at T3. However, he was kind enough to spin his car instead, so I maintained 5th.  Lost a little more time in subsequent mistakes, but concentrated driving over the final laps secured 5th at the finish.

Grats to the podium and thanks to Matt for a long and fair duel.  Thanks also to Tony & Bob for putting it together, and welcome to Louis - hope you'll race with us again  :)

Cheers,
Erling

I like the sixties muscle cars and think it is a great idea  of Bob’s to reconstruct the TA series of fifty years ago. I think I’ve only raced on one of the future tracks to be used in this series so it should be interesting.

I found that I am still allergic to this version of Sebring. Although I had a good idea where the Track Cuts were this time and kept clear of them until lap four when I managed to get two at the same corner on the same lap. I let a car I was side by side with go at Turn 1 as he was on the inside, mistook my turning point as I thought he had gone wide. realised my mistake and tried to correct it too late resulting in going wide. Got one Cut Track entering the turn and another on exiting it earning a S&G from only one corner.  :blink: Another Sebring record for me I think. ::)

I am now going to download Green Valley. Will check it out for Cut Track warnings later. 

Like Erling said, was a classic chase all race  :fencing:

COuple of points - I found the Z28 to be better in the corners than the Cougar TA and slower on the straights
also I was running auto clutch at first, which was not a good idea on long straights, you out gunned me after
the hairpin because of your manual clutch as much as anything, and the COugar was faster on the straights
in any case. Z28 might have been slightly better on the brakes as well, not sure. When you went wide at T3
I tried to keep tight to avoid contact and overdid it. After that I went with manual clutch and got a bit more
acceleration out of the corners onto the straights, but not enough to do much by then.
Green valley looks like another power track, though it looks quite short, so maybe not.
Interesting that the two drivers from mars, and the one from planet flamenco were all in Barracudas which I
had thought  to be slow... must try those again  :whistling:

Didn't like this track, never have really so I didn't want to use a "good" car here. In testing I seemed to be slowest in the Camaro so took that. I was in awe of the performance Matt was able to produce in his tho  :o

I think I was losing too much time at the sharp corners but I was very much on the pace at turns 1 and 2 (the best parts of this track IMO).

Avoided the duckers and divers for most of the first lap. Received a love tap from misnoimis  but nothing to worry about. Early battles with Roger (as usual). Then a fairly dull affair as the boys in front increased their lead and I did likewise to the fella's behind me.

Final few laps were more interesting as I watched the gap between myself and Steve behind me decrease alarmingly, from a safe cushion to "flippin 'eck he's close". One more lap and I think I would have been dead in the water.

I hope Louis enjoyed his first outing with us. Introduce youself fella and we will get you up the front with the fast guys in no time  ;)

Is it "Louis"am  or "Louisa"m

 ???

Hi its Louis i expect he added am for amateur.

Should have taken note of the first post and used the Barracuda, prob would have made no diff to my result as so wary of what part of track was ok to use, spent most of race trying to keep Steve from over taking Thanks Steve for some nice close racing and being so patient.

Grats to Ati7 on win

Grats to Podium 

Two points:

1: My car was a '68 Firebird - not a Cougar  :)

2: I was - as always - on autoclutch for the entire race, except for the start, where I use my pedal.  Shift noise of the Firebird makes it sound like autoclutch is off though, so understand your confusion.

I tried the Barracuda and found it to have better brakes than the rest, but couldn't translate it to faster laptimes; my best being 3:09.1.  How the aliens could be 8 secs quicker is a mystery to me, but maybe there's something drastic that needs changing in its setup..  :blink:

Cheers,
Erling

Teehee.
I am in shame.... well that firey bird accelerated better than my ZX spectrum

Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_N2o0XzBZUGVuRFU?ltmpl/index.html)

 8)

Another night to forget. And I don't like this Sebring version too.

Having tried each car beforehand to see which suited my driving style, I plumped for the Cougar as I was 3+ seconds quicker in it than in the Cuda, despite the latter needing a shorter braking zone.

V8's have always been top of my list and so must thank Bob and Tony now for setting up the races for this season :thumbup1:

Managed to avoid spoiling my paintwork during the initial settling-down period of the first couple of laps. Then from about lap 5 onwards almost to the end had an excellent tussle with Roger in his Shelby ahead of me, which for most of the race maintained a gap of just a few feet. My Cougar could match his speed but even with slipstreaming, I couldn't get the momentum to overtake him. I found myself holding my breath literally sitting on the edge of my chair with the 7 or so laps of nose-to-tail racing that we had together, and I felt each of us respected the others' track position perfectly.

With a few laps to go, our gear changes briefly became out of synch and I found myself slowly edging ahead of Roger, and as at Zolder, with about   1 1/2 laps to go, I was aware of an evergrowing dot in the distance - Tony again. The gap seemed to shrink really quickly and I wondered if I was being teased to the finish line ;), with less than 3 seconds again separating us over the line.

Having watched the replay, particularly from your rear window Roger, I realise I need to concentrate more on my setup, as my car spent too much time with a wheel in the air. Looks dramatic, but I expect it's upsetting the traction at the back.

Well done to Ati, Ziu and Geoffers for their 123 and am really looking forward to the next at Green Valley.

Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:

Good race,nice battle Ziu  ;) Barracuda very good car.(Gamers crib Muscles league,my favorite car.Plenty of practice) Next race,I make online setup.Grats and thanks all,see you next race.(sorry,google translator  ;)  )

had a go at Green Valley last night, nice little track, and was fastest in the Firebird 68 and my fave Z28
was a second slower in the (older) barracuda than either of them.

Plainly I am missing something that is present in a far off galaxy.  :alien:

Devastating speed from the 3 Barracudas, well done Ati, Ziu & Jose.

Only tried the Firebird & it seemed pretty good so stuck with it. Race was fairly lonely after Jose spun out early on, gradually pulling away form Erling & Matt & watching Ati & Ziu disappear into the distance. Just had to keep focused in the closing laps as a recovering Jose was gaining by about 1.5s per lap, most of this through the first couple of corners where I was being very tentative so as not to get a 'Cut Track' warning. Very pleased to complete the whole race without getting one, I'm usually quite good at amassing them when they are a bit vague.  ::)

Congrats to Ati & Ziu.  :clap: :clap:

Thanks at all,  i think  Barracuda was the better choice for this track. it was perfect for long straights and gears 2 and 3 enough short for get good traction output turns. I use Barracuda usually on the oval tracks when is possible, but my prefered muscle car is Firebird 1968 when i run GCMCL championship  ;D  (sorry for my bad english)