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Track: Kyalami 70's Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg128898#post_kyalami_70s)

Cars allowed: 1967 F1 carset Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_f1_1967)

Please follow the installation instructions posted HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13388.0).

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (34 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

Tony is this our 1st GTL race of 2016? Looks like you've engendered more interest in GTL with all your work planning Successful race Seasons - thanks!  ;D

Not our first GTL race Bill, but it will be the first championship outing for the F1 '67's. The actual first event, on Jan 4th will be a Fifties Sprint race.

Really enjoyed the new year special for this, but annoyingly I will be stuck in Birmingham next week so will miss it.  :'(

Great poster Tony!

Right now I have finished the installation. Really looking forward to test these cars.
Any recommendation? Soft or hard tires? Does anyone have laptime?

Thanks!

No laptime yet, but the soft tyres seem to last well.

I'm afraid everyone is in the same boat, we have no previous data to examine. I would try praccy on softs and see how they wear. I have a best laptime which I'll post tonight.

All YOU need, is Ati's time...  ;D

Haven't tried all cars yet, and am not at home so can't check, but do believe my fastest so far was a 1:12.something. Edit: 1:12.35 to be specific. That was on softs, non-race-fuel, in a Brabham.  Still have lots of cars to try though; am working my way through them from the top down.

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks guys for the replys.

I made a few laps and my best time is 1.11.5 with Lotus (soft tires).
We must be very careful because the slightest touch breaks the direction  :(

I'm afraid to know the Ati's time  :o

Cheers!

NEWS FROM EARTH!!!

My top time in the Cooper with hard's and race ready fuel is a 114.6.  Just posted not to impress but give us mortals my number...........

Bob M.

BTW if you are free Saturday and want some V8 action.  http://www.gamers-crib.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14156  Trans Am cars are in the field, get a headstart on the setups at Hoch. Nat......

And my best is a 1:13.39 :-\

1:15.4 so far in the M5A - BTW: great poster!!!

I simply cannot take any credit for the poster. It's just the official programme cover enlarged a bit.

OK, so in full race trim i'm down to 1:12.21.

BTW I bagsee the Cooper T81B No.21  :P

Soft tyres?

I thought that their tyres lasted half a season!

Got a few laps in last night. First try in the Lotus 49, tricky car, more setup work needed to get the best out of it I think. Best lap was 1.12.2. Then tried the Brabham with my setup from Donington & equalled my Lotus time. Brabham seems to handle better & I was able to brake much later at the end of the main straight than with the Lotus. Hopefully get to try a few other cars before Monday.

Lotus test 1.10.xxx. Online setup "Lotus49"

Was that with a caravan?

Sorry,little stutters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMbLW36J-LU

Thanks for the vid and the setup! Good!

Forgive them Clive, they are not steeped in the history of 67 Grand Prix cars. ::)

Plus, old habits die hard and GTL'ers are accustomed to having a choice of tyres. On the up side, it does add an extra tactical dimension regarding tyre wear if we do longer races.

I am going to have to find some practice time for these cars, other then the Donington race, I have had very little track time.

Having checked out my 1967 copy of Autocourse, I could not find too much info on the tyres they used, but can confirm that there were indeed a limited number of different compounds available to choose from. Long before the days of 'qualifiers' though.

Yup thanks - nice setup Ati.  Can't match your lap time of course, but have done my fastest lap with it; at 1:11.9.

Cheers,
Erling

My goodness: http://www.ebay.de/itm/AUTOCOURSE-1967-1968-DENNY-HULME-BRABHAM-FORMULA-ONE-RACING-CAR-BOOK-/201386026917 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/AUTOCOURSE-1967-1968-DENNY-HULME-BRABHAM-FORMULA-ONE-RACING-CAR-BOOK-/201386026917)

 :wacko:

Yes they go for huge money these days. I have 6 of them from between 1965 & 1974, although some are not in too good a condition as I had them when is was quite young, didn't look after them & I think 3 or 4 of them have been written in!  ::)

Looks that F1 1967 GTL ist faster than F1 1967 GPL and both are way faster than in real history:
Race fastest lap 1967 by Dennis Hulme was 1:29.9, pole position by Jack Brabham 1:28.3.
http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/ergebnisse/1967/suedafrika-gp-645.html (http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/ergebnisse/1967/suedafrika-gp-645.html)


Lotus 49 doesn't look like an option for me - handles too nervous.
Maybe I'll stay with the M5A but First I'll try other options.

I had also wondered about this. Let's see how this pans out over the remainder of the series. I'm also pondering if in future series we might apply tyre wear  :devil:

Something to read:

http://www.intothered.dk/1967season/67season_kyalami.html (http://www.intothered.dk/1967season/67season_kyalami.html)

 ;) 8)


http://www.intothered.dk/1967season/67season_root.html (http://www.intothered.dk/1967season/67season_root.html)

Read these the other day, most interesting.

This does not bode well.

Indeed - it looks like there were no possibilities to choose between hard, soft and intermediate tyres but to choose only between tyre producers (Goodyear, Firestone and Dunlop - Dunlop not included in the mod). Interesting. Those were the times before active sponsorship... . No idea concerning rain tyres as slicks didn't exist at that time.
Keep investigating.

Thinking about to choose only a car which was used in every particular race in reality - so no M5A for Kyalami ...

Next Mondays track  is not on the Server.

I thought my installation was OK but yesterday morning the lobby showed -5 for the number of people on the track  ::) ??? guess it's a problem with my installation, any ideas what's wrong?

Once logged on everything seemed to work OK, car handled the same as off line.  ;D

Incidentally there was one track with -4 on it, also including me there were 4 people but two drivers at 2 tracks ie 4 instead of 3!

Maybe Matt hasn't re-started GTL after last nights RRE

 :hang:
Matt didn't.. I don't log on to the server to do the results anymore, and I forgot to log on to reset the servers

Ok, I'll check it when I get home tonight

Thanks Matt now in the lobby and correctly showing 0/16 everything OK now Tony put in a couple of laps. ;D

Will try and get some more laps in tonight! ;D

I bought a new GTL game from gameseek.com. Install seemed to go OK but when I try to run the game (with or without Tony's mods) it says it has to reboot my PC to complete the install. During the reboot windows says there is an error and it can't load windows without doing repairs. The repairs turn out to be the removal of all of the GTL .exe files so I'm back to square one. Anyone else suffered this one? I'm running windows 7 ultimate btw

Simon

Not exactly, but GTL original game won't work on Win7 because of the starforce "protection"
I bought GTL from Steam to get around it once, or, there are hacked installs knocking around on secret sites  :whistling:
Your brother might be able to offer advice...

I am coming to terms with living in Water World down south these days. Back garden flooded, golf course like hippo country, also all local country walks, and I live on high ground near the top of a hill. Feel really sorry for some of those up north and in Scotland.
 
Due to the rain I decided to do something useful and clear out my loft, I’ve been putting it off for about the past five years. Thought it would take about two days, has taken five so far. It took about two days just to shred the old business records etc.  Amazing what can be accumulated over thirty years.

I did treat myself however to about an hour a day on GTL F1 1967 and read the SROU posts (back on topic). They were very enlightening, with some great links. I really enjoyed reading those. My old copies of Autosport and Motorsport (dating from the mid fifties to the late sixties) disappeared during a house move some thirty years ago.

I also tend to think the cars in GTL F1 are a bit too fast in reality although I really enjoy the Mod.

I tried Ati’s set up for the Lotus 49. It felt like a bucking bronco to me.  I guess it depends on what controller you use, how it is set up and you’re in game controller settings. I use a G27 that I have set up to feel as realistic as I can and use the H gear change.  I would point out that I have no alien ancestors so that might a difference.
 
The cars I have tried are the McLaren M5A: 1:12:08, Brabham BT24: 1:13:03 and Lotus 49: 1:13:28 (with a setup I worked out) all with a qualifying set up. I think I will take the McLaren as it is the car I have driven the most although I see it did not take part in the RSA GP in 1967.

Thanks to Tony and the guys who posted the article links. I am looking forward to Monday. Hope I can get somewhere near finishing the race this time.  ::)

Disk based GTL can kill Windows 7 or greater so you now have a silver mug holder.
Help is on the way  ;)

It's easy enough to uninstall the Starforce drivers then get hold of the dodgy .exe. There are some details about removing Starforce here:
http://www.gamers-crib.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10344

Or if you value your time, just buy it on Steam - it's only a fiver.

There is a .exe that already has Starforce removed  ;)

Also I have read of problems with later mods and the hacked GTL. Each to their own but I would not choose that course of action.

Me neither, also, I'm lazy so I bought it on Steam :)

We should see more of you then  ;)

Probably only a rear view!   ::)

lol Clive!

I'd love to Tony, but I'm pretty much committed to my current two days of racing a week and I doubt I'd get a pass for a third. Planning on turning up once the F1VRC series finishes later in the year though.

In case it might be helpful:

Anyone with a purchased, legit copy of GTL can download the Steam (No Starforce) version for free, no need to buy it again on Steam. To do this open your Steam app and go to Games/Activate a Product on Steam. Then enter the Product key  for GTL in the box (without any dashes or spaces). The Product key is in fact the Online code, NOT the DVD key. If you have a physical boxed copy of the game it's printed on the back of the manual.

Incidentally, I lose my online key setting when my anti-virus/clean-up system defrags my SSD. ??? ::) I now keep my GTL box and handbook handy.  ;D

I've managed to get all of the cars including the F1 in my garage but I can't select the F1 cars for off line practice, what am I missing?

I can race on the server because it lists the F1 cars as selectable

Simon

PS  I'm still getting a black screen whilst racing which goes after a few seconds, what's the fix for this?

You got GTL to work?, how come?

Have you bought the cars?

I was sent a download

All of the cars are in my garage and none at the dealers so I figured the game thinks I've bought them.

There is no F1 group selectable on the right of the screen so the f1 cars don't come up as an option

Have you followed all the steps in the F1 '67 install procedure? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13388.msg241534#msg241534

Particularly step 4  ::)

Thought I had but I'll try it again

Looks like I missed step 4  :whistling:

Just need to sort the black screen of death now

That does sound like a graphics card issue. Take a look at the video settings screen, set everything to low and see if the black screen makes an appearance or not.

how do you reset the screen resolution?  I should have used 1680x1050 but I don't think I did

In your GTL folder look for an .exe file called 3DGTLconfig and double click it.

I've downloaded XD and lobbed it into the GTL folder but not seen anything on the screen yet.

Tried pressing "\" and that didn't do anything.

You need the latest DirectX 9.0c Package. Download from Microsoft. This is required! Without the DirectX-Update the game won't start if the XD is installed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34429

And remember to run it as admin - otherwise your changes aren't registered.

Cheers,
Erling

Can someone tell me where this setup actually is ???

Simon

When your online, go to the garage (spanner symbol). There is an icon (cannot remember what it is) to go to online setups. Find the appropriate track and the setup should be listed there. However if your windows host file is pointing to the wrong server you probably won't see it. As we very recently had an epic fail of the Altbierbude lobby, new addresses are used for the lobby and host files. So setups may or not be posted with the correct host and/or your host may be looking in the wrong place.
Current lobby address shown here https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13595.msg244611#msg244611
Host file can be found here c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc. You can edit the host file with Notepad. But before replacing the original delete the .txt file extension.

Found it  ;D   thanks

Well it does start?  But doesn't show the XD stuff?

EDIT
All working.  Now I just need about three seconds a lap!  Is there a patch, bit of string or a sticking plaster for that too?

The bottom left of my screen has no information being shown.  Is this normal?

I found out last night when doing the NG Sunday race that you don't need the lobby file, if you just delete it you can still access the lobby. Didn't know this until Cap7 told me about it, tried it & it seems to work!  ???

In case you need to make a pit stop.............

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11812.msg212761#msg212761

Worth reading  ;)

I will need to visit the pits at least once I'm sure.  I know our drivers are not as crazy as the AI in the game, but 34 laps is a long time to stay off the walls for a old guy like me and I "WILL" finish even if I am many laps back unless I kill the motor.  I found out in practice you can limp around the track on three wheels if you have to..........

Bob M.

No need to switch off ignition then?

No

To get XD working on my latest update WIn10, I had to install the whole DX9 OEM install, not just the runtime.
and also needed the latest XD version, trying to copy an older existing zip didn't work.

My Southport GTL is still stuffed. If I delete the garage.car file I can run offline with any car at any track no problem
as soon as I go online at any track selecting any car I am in the Merc LM55 when I go to track, this happens
in 2 separate installs with two different lobby names (though same online key), so it must be something in windies, maybe a registry thing. I can't do GTL anymore there until I can sort it. GTL-f1 is still working on that box though.... ??? ??? ???
If I am in Manchester, I "think" my machine there still works, so should be there next week
Won't make it this week for the F1 event as I am now in Brum, and I can't face the 2 hr drive each way, tempting
though it is  ;D

Hello Guys !!!

I think I'm too late for tonight's race and I have a question that might be very silly, but how can I connect to the server ? I forgot the password I used to connect to the other server so is there a way to copy some file from the other GTL that we usually race on to the F1 version to be able to connect ?

Look in your other GTL install under UserData. In your.plr file will be your lobby name and password. It's under [Multiplayer Options]

EDIT: You can copy those line into your other GTL install  ;)

Race server is up  :thumbup1:

Done !!!

Thx Tony

Just about my worst night's performance ever.  :hammer: :hang:

This morning on with Clive Loynes checking tyre wear with race fuel load worked down to a 1:19 odd.

Tonight I could just not get the line on any corner with any consistency. Many attempts had so many offs and damaged suspension that I only got about half way around.  Taking it easy was just as bad, running wide through corners through lack of drive on light throttle.

Decided to leave as I could see me spoiling too many drivers enjoyment.  :ban: :censored: :2guns:

Hope you all had a good race. ;D

Sorry to hear that you had so much trouble Bill.

My race started badly, I completely bogged down in the Honda and got swamped by cars from behind. Got myself moving and was closing on RogUK looking to steal 8th place and set off after Simon when I had a series of screen freezes!!???
It was as if the whole GTL package froze, I could not quit despite pounding the Esc key. Then the game would start foe about 2 secs and the car shot across the track and froze again. This happened about 4 times  all the while hitting the ESC key to get out of everyone's way.
Eventually I got myself ejected only for the game to freeze on the "Best laps" board.  The only way I was able to get out was a "Ctrl-ALt-Del" and stop GTL??

Never had that problem before, totally bemused by that. Anyone offer any ideas?

Until then I was really beginning to enjoy myself and the mighty Waza felt good and solid . Grats to all finishers and thanks to Tony for setting this up.

Just noticed that Clive Loynes vanished /dq'd on the grid???  What happened Clive?

Replay and results now posted.

Not entirely sure.

My best bet is that as I went out to do a last lap or so at the end of qually, on race fuel, I wasn't sure if the pit lane light didn't change to red just as I went past it.

And that was me done for.

Shame really.  After all that hard work, it would have been nice to do just one lap!

Results (http://googledrive.com/host/0B0VLrTJJX8K-Q2thaFVkalV5VzA/index.html)

Fun race yesterday!

I didn't have much time to practice, so I chose the lotus 49 (my first choice).
The qualifier went well. Best time than expected. And the start was even better ... but .... damn cold tires. After 4 curves I lost the first position and went down to the 7th or the 8th. But it was fun to fight for gain some positions. Really these cars are fun to drive, very exciting.
I was comfortable in the 4th place watching Ziu and Erling were fighting for 3rd place but returned to make a mistake in the same corner of the first lap and this time the suspension broke. Goodbye to the race, but I decided pit for repair the suspensionand see if I could win a position. Finally 9th.

Grats to all finishers, especially the winners and my teammate Erling.

Cheers!

Thanks for the results Jose  :thumbup1:

Does sound like a graphics card issue Clive. Maybe reduce your video settings, try just reducing shadows to start with.

I was gutted when you failed to make the start grid Clive especially after all your efforts to join us. The pit lane lights can be ignored, they do not actually do anything except mark the start and end of the pit lane, for speed limiter purposes.
When qualy ends you should go to the garage screen and set your race fuel or load your pre-defined Race setup, if you made one. You can also go to the chat screen if you wish. Look out for the race start countdown which should display at the bottom right of your screen. When this starts go to the grid. Do not stay in chat or garage. When on the grid check your engine health %. If it's lowish hit escape which will put you back in the garage. Enter the grid again and check engine health %. You can do this as often as you want whilst the countdown is still active but don't cut it too fine.
I will write an aid to starting in GTL and post it later today. Although to late for you it may prevent others in the future suffering the same fate.
My apologies Clive and I hope you will join us again in the future.

Very relieved to get the first race behind us and happy to see that no-one had miss-match messages, well done guy's  :thumbup2:

What did we learn from last night's race?

The suspension is fragile.

Mirror use can prevent accidents particularly when rejoining the track after an excursion.

Lappers need to be more patient when following lapee's (is that a word?).

These cars are quick and larger gaps are required when following cars particularly in the braking zones.

However for the most part it was a most enjoyable race and a huge thank you to all those who took part.

Great fun driving these cars, this is going to be a good series.

Got a good start & was in 2nd place by T1 & a few corners later inherited the lead when Jose went off. It wasn't to last though, Ati was soon hassling me & it became apparent that my Eagle setup had much less corner grip than Ati's Cooper one. I was able to drive away on the main straight but as soon as it got twisty I was a sitting duck. After losing the lead I made a couple of mistakes & dropped to 5th behind Ziu, Erling & Jose. That was pretty much it except for Jose going off & gifting me 4th place back, rest of the race was fairly lonely, but still fun in the Eagle, wonderful noise!

Looking forward to the next one of these, just need to find some corner grip!  ???

Congrats to Ati, Ziu & Erling.  :thumbup1:

I was gutted on your behalf too!  You put in more work than anyone but many thanks also to Matt, as his flakey download enabled Simon to make it.   ::)

It must just have been unfamiliarity with the GTL graphics, which do look a bit Thomas the Tank Engine.   ;D  I didn't know what I was looking at and probably thought that the countdown for the race start was the countdown to the end of qually!  Doh!  (EDIT:  Yes, thinking about it, I was probably on track when qually actually finished and perhaps when I returned to the garage I thought that the countdown was for the end of qually. It wasn't.)

I shall have to find a faster chariot for the next gallop too!

Observations on the race and results, as I watched a good half of it!  ::)  

Racing looked good and clean.  I did think that it was going to come to blows at the start when Geoffers had the Coopers and Brabhams bottled up.  But in the end everyone gave enough room.  I didn't watch the start and was staggered to see Geoffers out front!  Where did you get that start from Geoffers?  You normally start like a ruptured duck!  ;D

A month is a long time to wait for the next race.  I can only do one sim at a time and I might have withdrawal symptoms by Feb 8th.  :(

The race looked to be about twice as long as it needed to be.  It was all done and dusted by lap 17.  If you ran two short races I might even manage to start one of them!

Jury still out with regards the sim itself and Monaco probably won't tell us much either.  To me, the cars feel more like understeering boats than open wheeled racing cars.

Still, I have a month to try them all out.  ;D

Grats to the podium and thanks to Tony for putting on the races.  :thumbup2:

I didn't think my start was that good actually Clive, I think the others were just bad!  :D

Try the TransAm race in a couple of weeks time Clive, I know you like big V8s. You will need another install of GTL though!

Great race yesterday!

Tested all the cars and fell in love with the orange Brabham, but problem was that it was only my 3rd fastest option. However, more practice with it, and some setup adjustments altered that, so I set my fastest lap with it.

Slight improvement of pb in qual landed me 5th on the grid. Got very slowly off the line, but a wakeup bump from the car behind remedied that - thanks!  :thumbup1:  Maybe that delayed catapult launch was what saw me arrive at T1 ahead of Ziu, in a surprising 4th place. Couple turns later, it was upgraded to 3rd, when Jose ran wide.  Surprised to keep up with the two front runners, but probably Geoffers keeping Ati in check. Behind me still Ziu. I would pull away on the 'full-power-on' sections, and he would claw back the gap in the 'not-full-power-on' corners.

After some laps, Ati made it past Geoffers, and I did so too at the end of the straight soon after.  Ahead Ati was pulling away, while behind me, Geoff & Ziu were duking it out. That was apparently to my advantage, as I opened a small gap of 2-3 secs. After a few laps Ziu had gotten away from Geoff however, and quickly closed the gap again.  Held him behind me for a few laps, and had just about decided to let him past, when his overtake attempts became more aggressive and our cars collided a few times.  Almost changed my mind, but held back at the start of the uphill straight, to let him get ahead, and then again on the rest of the straight, so he could get away.  

For the remainder of the race, Ziu steadily extended the gap, so maybe I should have let him past sooner. What do the rest of you guys do, if you have a faster driver behind - let him past, or fight every bit of the way ?   Am split on this myself; seems the gentlemanly thing to let them past, but on the other hand, if I have to do that every time a faster driver ends up behind me for some reason, I'm giving away my biggest advantage.  I'm not particularly quick, so most of my good results comes from being more steady than drivers faster than me.  And you fast guys, what do you prefer - fight for positions to the last drop of blood, or a freebee here or there ?

After letting Ziu go, I was in a good 3rd position, which held to the end.  Grats to Ati & Ziu for the other podiums.

Thanks to those I lapped for helping me past - apologies for not thanking you on the spot, but I always forget which key has my 'thank you' message assigned. Would normally just flash my lights, but not an option with these cars.  Maybe I should assign that message to my last, unused wheel button, but it just seems too presumptuous to do that  ;)

Clive:  Looked at you car in the replay and it looked really strange.  It froze in place, only to warp to a new place to freeze again a few seconds later.  Appeared like you briefly lost connection with the server.  Could it perhaps be another program starting an up- or download, momentarily hogging all your bandwidth ?

Commiserations to everyone who met with misfortune; not least Bill, who skipped the race entirely.  Hope you'll make the next one.

Cheers,
Erling

Erling, your comment regarding Clive's lagging reminds me that Simon's car was also stuttering a bit.

Always best to close down all unnecessary programs before racing.

EDIT: Thinking about it..........you may have the wrong setting shown for lobby connection. I will confirm what it should be tonight when I get home.

I found it difficult to watch Simon because the view wasn't smooth enough when looking at his car.  Clive wasn't there long enough for comparison.

LOL  It's racing!  You fight tooth and nail to hang on to every place that you can!  By the rules of course and scrupulously fair.  But hard!!!   ;D 

The only exceptions are a) to let a team mate past and b) to set the fast bloke behind you onto the guy in front, who you can't quite catch.   ;D  With any luck they will both go off!  ::)

You can be a gentleman in the pits.  :angel:

Eeeeek!!!!!    (Hides under desk!)

LOL, now that is devious thinking - gotta remember that..  ;D

Thanks for the input though Clive; much appreciated.

Cheers,
Erling

I must admit I was quite nervous about how this one would go. Started slowly to avoid any first lap incidents and soon settled into a groove giving chase to Misnoimis and the pack just in front of him. Every lap I narrowed the gap until I eventually gathered the courage to try a pass just after the first turn. During this move I encountered a recovering Michel and I was sandwiched between him and Misnoimis. I glanced Michel which sent me across the track and into the barrier thus damaging my suspension. As it was early days I decided to pit for repairs rather than quit out. Took an age to get to the pits and even longer to crawl down the pit lane on the limiter. Repairs to suspension went on forever so by the time I exited the pits everyone and his dog had lapped me at least once. Still it was fun driving around on my own, trying to stay out of the way of the quick guys. Later in the race I hit a barrier again (my fault) so drove to the finish with bust suspension.
Nice turnout, good looking grid and no problems with miss matches, great!
Monaco should be eventful  :o  

@Clive L  do you mean the content was "flakey" or the connection was flakey?

As I recall, the content was of dubious origins.  The download was solid enough.   ;D

The first GTL GPL 1967 race of the season so I did a little more careful preparation than usual. Checked that I had my preferred in game control settings. Checked that I had plenty of fuel so no puzzling and distracting low fuel warnings and had a word with my pit crew so that if I needed to visit the pits they did as instructed and not the opposite as they did in my last race.

I had three goals – 1) finish the race, 2) not come last, 3) not be last of the finishers. Anything else would be a bonus.

I developed two different set ups in practice. One I am sure was faster but required more accurate driving. I went for the safer, more forgiving one in the end and decided I would be Captain Sensible.
 
I made a steady if rather cautious start and after a couple of laps was looking to chase down the car in front while trying to watch Tony who was faster at some points of the lap and putting pressure on me while I seemed faster on other sections and could pull away slightly. I was relishing a really exiting battle when unfortunately the car in front span. I managed to avoid him but Tony was challenging the time. I guess you could say he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and the ensuing collision ended our fun.
 
After that I found I could not quite match the speed of the car in front of me without going beyond my comfort zone so decided there was nothing to be gained by risking a spin and went into my Captain Sensible mode as planned.  I had no one to race with as often happens for me so I just drove round within my capabilities making no mistakes. I saw Bob was behind me but not in sight. I waited for a charge but he did not seem his normal pace and if the gap of about 10 seconds closed slightly I could just go a little faster and open it again. I realised that I would be lapped it being quite a short track and a long race but that if I tried to go fast enough to avoid this it would be risky and it would be unlikely to alter my finishing position so I stuck to the plan.
 
I was very happy to finish seventh. I thought a few would have accidents and my best chance would be to inherit some positions when this happened. I was pleased not to make any mistakes although I guess this was mainly down to not being very quick. Also sorry for some who had problems and were very unlucky. IMO this series is the most challenging in GTL.
 
Congrats to the winner, podiums and all finishers. I can’t wait for the next race in this series.  :clap:

That was a long old race. Set up wise I used the online one for the Lotus 49 but as I like oversteer and it understeered like a boat I wasn't very quick.

It was fun to be in a single seater again after so many tin-top outings.

First few laps were fun but then I ran round for what seemed like hours watching Geoffers slowly get away.

Made it to the end unlapped so I've had worse.

Major positive was that, after much "plug and struggle" and support from many helping hands I got the game to run without any problems

Simon

Hugely impressed that both Simon and Clive were able to join in, well done chaps  :clap:

On another point.....did anyone else have different dials in their car. The Cooper T81B dials changed most times I drove it. First time it happened I had to check I was in the right car  ::)

Yup, I had that too in the Brabham when I went online in it for the first time yesterday. Confused the heck out of me at first..  :blink:

Cheers,
Erling

Yes, the Honda that I was running looked odd and it had a rev counter that ran out of numbers at 10k, when the max revs are around 11.5k for that wonderful engine. It took me a while to work out why I was 4 secs off the pace!!

Once I let that little pointy red thing spin around twice and fly off ( what is that for anyway??) the engine started singing again. :D

Indeed, still a lot of practice necessary in order to be more competitive in the upcoming events  ::)
At least a new pb, but not really an improvement during the event for me. Cruising behind the field and
paying attention to the aliens lapping me.

Thanks José for posting the reults  :thumbup1:

I just tried the HUD in the Lutus 49 and found that you can't see anything in the mirrors due to the dials!  I prefer the one on the dash anyway but the other bits of the HUD would be useful.  Did I see a setting in the .PLR for minimal HUD?

If you press the "2" key you can toggle the amount of screen clutter

Can't remember, but does the virtual mirror at the top of the screen work in these?

It did!

It was black!

Yes.

Ah-ha more stuff to know  :detective:

There are three settings that effect how (and when) you see other drivers cars when they join an online session. You can choose "don't load them until I'm next in the garage", "load them but only when I'm going slow on the track" and "Load them now".
I'll see if I have a graphic that shows this and update this post.

The result of the car not loading is you see it on track but in a wacky colour.

A good but mostly lonely race for me, got a good start gained a couple of places then promptly lost them, Simon soon caught and passed me then Clive was reeling me in and i expected him to pass me going through Crowthorne when he just disappeared, after that Simon kept extending his lead and the gap back to Misnoimis stayed fairly constant. Again like at Donny i was faster in the Lotus but for 34 laps no way so opted again for the Eagle.

Grats to Ati7 on win

Grats to Podium

Good race,good Cooper track  ;) Fast corners but slow straight  :o Grats and thanks all,see you next race.(Sorry,damn google translator  :)  )

They all seem to be good Cooper tracks.  GTL setting out to re-write history?

 South African Grand Prix Kyalami 1967 jan 2,winner Pedro Rodríguez Cooper.South African Grand Prix Kyalami 2016 jan 11,winner Attila Dobri (Ati7) Cooper  ;D

LOL   Good answer.   :thumbup1: And congratulations on a fine drive.

But were Lotus not still running the BRM engine then?  Once the DFV appeared it showed a clean pair of heels to everyone after the reliability issues were sorted!

That was not black, that was the new white!!!

Special stealth paint that does not show up in mirrors, developed by Mrs Fujikawa and her team.

She is devious as ever!

I think that may have been the last ever Cooper grand prix win.

Monaco high hopes  ;)  ;D

I have no doubts. Attila the Hun  ;)

Well the Cooper AI are ruling the roost at Monaco. 

I'm sure that Tony's handicap system will sort things out.   ;D

Cooper,not the best,nor the second  ;)

Is that yet to be worked out, or am I just more blind than usual ?  :)

Cheers,
Erling

It has yet to be made public. So far I have Ati in a Trabant  ;)

 :lol: :lol: - He'll probably still win..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

Good luck with that one!   ;D

Can you take the AI performance as a guide to which cars are faster than others?

I'm hoping to try out all the cars for Monaco, so that I have my own pecking order, but given the driver and the track that may be skewed in favour of which ones are easier to drive rather than quickest.

You can but nothing compares to driving them all yourself. Perhaps watching the AI can help rule out some of the cars?

Have you done that Tony?

And if so where is it?   ;D

I'm getting ready tp make a mess of the next one.  ::)

Ta

:oops: Completely forgot about doing this. I'll have a bash this lunchtime.

Now done https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13639.0

Thanks Tony.

All I have to do now is to find this countdown in the bottom righthand corner.  Never seen anything yet.  :(

Join the praccy server, go to chat, advance the session to race, watch the countdown from the garage or chat screen

Yes, I was going to do that last night but then thought that I would have a little practice whilst I was in there.

Then the server shut down and chucked me out.  :(