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Track: Monaco '79 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_monaco79)

Cars allowed: 1967 F1 carset Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_f1_1967)

Please follow the installation instructions posted HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13388.0).

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (28 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

I don't seem to be able to download the track again.   :(


I can download Montreal but Monaco gets blocked by my virus checker.

Well turn off your virus checker temporarily

PS I'll find another link

Maybe your virus stuff sees it as dodgy becaue it is the same size as something that is dodgy
Here is an alternat S3 link to it:

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/phspok1/SRou_GTL_Monaco_1979_1.2.1.0.exe

edit: it works now

or this http://www.mediafire.com/download/qjf5hbn89pnl1pm/Monaco79_GTL_V1_21.zip

I tried Matt's first and it worked!   :thumbup1:

Can I doctor that link to get at other Amazon S3 files?

That's my own S3 bucket, the only other thing in there at the moment is a Honda suspension doc
I copied the official file to mine. I can copy others if required, but it's not an auto mirror.

Using Avast anti virus i have to disable it from avast shield control in task bar to download Tracks or Cars from Amazon, but it is no problem as avast automatically re enables its shields after 10 minutes. 

Avast here too.   ;D

Just done a few laps.

It used to be that one would aspire to taking the chicane flat!  In this incarnation I can't even take the tunnel flat!   ::)

I think that it took me forty minutes to manage a lap with all the wheels still on.

I tried to host a race so that Simon and I could get some Monaco practice in but I didn't have the option of selecting the F1 series.  ;-(

Any ideas?

Not really, but my test server is up - UKGTL-F1-Backup

Thanks Matt.

I guess that vanishes whenever you are racing?

Not that that happens much!   ::)

It dissapears when i think it is conflicting with the official one, though It probably doesn't
I tend to leave it running when i am at the same location, as that network can cope easily.

Some pics:

http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/bilder/monaco-gp-monaco-1967-galerie-rennen-1967,1,1,0,75,758,0.html (http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/bilder/monaco-gp-monaco-1967-galerie-rennen-1967,1,1,0,75,758,0.html)

Hope I can find some time to take a tour of this Monaco track soon, sounds like it is not quite the same as the GPL track.
The chicane is definitely 100% in GPL and a buttock clenching experience, usually with your eyes shut too!

It is a more recent version than that used for GPL.  The chicane is easier because the concrete straw bales have been removed.

AFAIK there is no mod track for Monaco '67 so we have to use the nearest layout available.

Nowt else you can do really.

Please tell me that we can't do Nurburgring either.    ::)

We have Nords and it's correct for 1967  :angel:

Bum!

Few Monaco test.Many wall,sensitive suspension.Target of survival  ;)

IT disaster chez Clive!!! :scared: :scared: :cursing: :cursing:

Tried the F1 Monaco server on Wed evening and after a few laps developing a nice stable setup and learning the track, I got a moment where the game froze again, just like it did at Kyalami.

So, I decided to do some housekeeping on the computer and check that everything was as it should be.

When I set up the F1 mod I installed it on my external hard disk ( Drive H:) that I use as  storage/backup. It worked fine for the initial practice sessions over Xmas and for the first race at Donington. In fact I used to run GPL and GTL from there too, but I recently cleared out a load of junk files on the internal hard disks and moved both of those directories "inside".

So I ran a defrag and disk check on the external drive and left it running, figuring that there would be a load of crap entries left lying around and that would tidy things up.

I returned a couple of hours later to check on things and was faced with no H: drive listed ???!!! I tried everything I know to re-discover the drive, roamed the interweb and looked up various forums for answers but although the light was on, there was definitely no life  :(
I am guessing that those freezes were the beginning of the end , and the act of defragging just finished off the drive completely. I have lost a load of photos and old files, plus several game folders. Fortunately I had moved my GPL and GTL installations complete with all the setups and car sets etc only a few weeks ago.

Hopefully I will be able to get the F1 mod going again with a fresh install. Just one question guys..........I have a few 32gb USB sticks and was wondering if GTL would run OK from them? That way I could have a fresh install of GTL for each series on labelled sticks, and 32Gb ought to be big enough to handle all of the tracks etc?

In some ways it is fortunate that I have "only" lost the F1 GTL install as there was not a that many setups and circuit downloads in that file as yet. It still means that I ma spending a cold wet Sunday afternoon rebuilding the F1 install and setting up another external hard drive.

I can't think that running from a memory stick differs much from an installed hard drive except for the speed of data transfer e.g. how quickly can data be read/written to the stick as opposed to an hard drive?

I'm sure others here will have a more detailed IT perspective and can advise better than I.

The likely slower transfer speeds would have me worried - if the game needs to either read or write data during play, it might impact performance.  With that being said, I've never tried to run any game from external drives or USB sticks, so have no personal experience.

I would read this though, and follow their suggestions as far as possible:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/optimize-data-transfer-speed-external-drives/

Cheers,
Erling

Thanks for the feedback guys.
It looks like there are too many "trip points" on the USB stick idea, so I have shuffled around some older files to make space on my internal hard drives for the F1 install.

Currently loading a vanilla GTL...then all I have to do is install the extras as per Tony's original instructions. What can possibly go wrong??  ::)

 :helpsmilie:

LOL

Does he want the full Loynes List?

Totally Baffled of Bristol here??!! :-\

The first time that I installed the F1 mod, it went without a hitch.

This afternoon I must have loaded GTL about 5 times!! and I still do not have a working F1 install.

I think I have experienced every single problem that has been aired on the forum, by Matt, Misnomis, Bob, Clive, Simon etc etc.

Currently having a break from the insanity before having one more go this evening.

I have even tried the method of building a dedicated "Game Data" folder and swapping it in and out of the standard GTL install..............no joy, won't even boot the game.

I have had the F1 install boot up, but no F1 showing in the optional classes, despite being able to see the F1 cars in the Car Dealer. Still could not buy them because I had no tokens despite having ( at least I appeared to have) installed the limitless funds patch.
I have even experienced Matt's issue of fighting the security programme and having to enter the CD security key at each start up, something that was not an issue when I did the first install??!!

I think I will try the next install one step at a time, rather than adding all of the various files etc before hitting the .exe file.

Still seething about the failure of that external hard drive....................a lot of valuable stuff was lost.

I run GTL on a Seagate external backup drive without any problem.  Same FPS as my internal drive on Win 7.  Several years ago on a different computer I tried the memory stick thing and it loaded the game slower and also suffered jittery video especially going around tight corners.  Haven't tried it with this computer that has more memory but the same video card. Hate to mess with my system as it is working great lately.  I use the old Raceroom digital download after my disc failed.  Seems like I have read were you can dump the steam system altogether and just copy GTL into another folder, without any Steam meddeling.

Bob M.

My heart goes out to you EC, I ended up with teeth marks in my steering wheel by the end of my GTL F1 install

Simon

Does anyone know if there are physical differences between the cars of the same type, where there are multiple options, or is it just graphics?

Just graphical Clive

...............................still no F1......... :-\  :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz:

I am sure that I have followed Tony's step by step instructions and installed each patch in order as per the F1 Install thread. Probably 4 or 5 times.

I now have a working ( sort of ) GTL install, but there is no option for the F1 series alongside the standard 65GTC etc.
There are however F1 cars on the Dealer page, but I cannot get the unlimited finance patch to give me any tokens so that I might purchase them!!!

Looking through the installed files with Windows Explorer,
 I have a 67 F1 folder within Teams containing all of the new cars and the Honda updates.
The token patch file is there too, plus the tyre pressure update and the brake balance.

The dent in my forehead ( which coincidentally matches the profile of the top of my steering wheel ) is getting deeper and my wife is worried that it might cause an acceleration in my receeding hairline. Hah! that is about the only thing with any chance of accelerating around here at the moment!! :no:

Part 4 of the instructions creates the F1 group.

After adding the unlock everything patch you have to create a new profile for it to work.

Forgot to mention that I also have to insert the original GTL game CD each time, before the game will load??

I don't recall any probs like this when I first installed the F1 mod last December  :-\ Was there a patch to install to bi-pass the necessity for the CD?

The thing that threw me was that GTL wants to put itself in a folder called GT Legends wereas the missing patch wanted to go in a folder called GTL, which the rotten thing went and created.  It wasn't until it dawned on me that the patch wasn't putting itself in the same folder that it all fell into place.  ::)  So to speak.

What is the file name for the unlimited funds patch?? and where should it reside??

It's called "Cheat-Unlock Everything v1_0" and it should be in your main GT Legends Folder.


This is one of Tony's useful posts: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12125.msg217542#msg217542

Depends on what WIndows you are using for it. For 10, 8.1, 8 (ughh) and I think 7
I had to make the gtl.exe run as administrator, and set to compatibility mode for xp u2 (or 3)

trusty ol' XP here, none of that new fangled  tekky stuff.

progress I think............

I have unlimited funds and I can buy F1 cars

But still no 67 F1 class to select? so I am going to look for the "Step 4" that Tony mentioned...and check admin rights too.

Just a thought but is your GTL patched to 1.1?

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=776

It is now..................

AND??????????

The suspense is killing me!

OK I took an evening off to go racing F1 cars in GPL and help restore ( some) of my sanity.

Current state of play is...

I have a copy of GTL that will only boot if I have the game CD in the PC

When it does boot, I have all of the cars, including all of the F1 cars, in my garage.

I can join the lobby

But , I have no option to select 1967 F1. All of the standard car groups are there, but no sign of the F1 group.............

I might summon up the energy and interest to have another crack at this later, but then again, I might not.

Perhaps it needs patching to 1.1 before the rest of it happens.

Exactly!
Install GTL then apply the 1.1 patch then do everything else

Well..............

I deleted the current F1 install and started again.

Put a new GTL install from the CD on C: drive
d/loaded the V1.1 update and applied.

Then went through the steps on Tony's instructions adding/overwriting Game Data etc
Added the unlimited funds patch

Checked the files in the directory and the files for the F1 cars were there in the "TEAMS" folder.

Fired up GTL-F1....................still needed to have the CD in my drive and enter the disk code on the first boot. Subsequent boots still asked for the CD to be inserted whilst it did a "security check" or something.

Within the game I have all the cars, I can join the lobby etc.......................But still NO 1967 F1 series available!!!

Answers please on a postcard to "The Happy Rest Home for Mentally Exhausted sim Racers" care of nurse Mabel Glutbucket, who will read them to me after I have had my daily injection.  :wacko:


Edit
PS  I also tried downloading the complete 2.2Gb file that matt offered me last night. sat and watched the counter tick down from 35 mins to zero and  showing the full 2.2Gb d/loaded. Watched as I waited for the magic lantern to say "Finished"......and waited....and waited. It never gave me the "Completed " message and I ended up aborting after 30 mins of waiting.!! 

Might give it another go this evening, but for the life of me I cannot see why I am getting these problems when it all went so seamlessly a month ago??!!!

If Mabel approaches with one of those nice white suits that fasten down the back you had better start legging it!

My wife says that I seem a little stressed lately.  


She has picked up on small signs like ..the faraway look in my eyes, dribbling and outbursts of muttering in my sleep. Oh! and she says what really drew her attention to my plight was the twitching and involuntary spasms like I was driving a car that was not there whilst watching TV!!

don't know what she is talking about.......................................do you???? ::)

Sounds like GTL Syndrome.

Since all the bits do work, and you have proven this yourself, it seems likely that your familiarity with the installation is leading you to put something in the wrong place.  There can't be anyone more familiar with all the bits of string and sticky plaster than you, apart from Tony!  Perhaps Mabel should visit Tony as well?  Just to check that he isn't trying to bury himself under the patio.

My problam is that I was on the server recently when Ati7 did a 1:28 in a Mclaren, whereas I can't break the 1:30 barrier with a Lotus!  >:(

And, if Tony is still above ground, is it possible to date stamp the replays so that you don't have to keep renaming them?

I can answer that Sir!

You can indeed, but have to edit your .PLR file.  Find the line that reads like this:

Replays Dated="0" // Replays have date in filename

Change the 0 to 1, so it looks like this:

Replays Dated="1" // Replays have date in filename

Probably a good idea to make a copy of the file, before editing it, in case anything goes wrong..  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

The replays are renamed to include the date!

Our server ones are, I think Clive meant his own.... maybe

Ooops sorry, missed the point somewhat.

1:28  :w00t:  :notworthy:? I  Had to go online again to check I was on the right version of Monaco. Has anyone got any times recorded by humans as a guide or know the formula for that special sticky stuff I can paint on my tyres?  >:D

Thank you!

I had used the Replay numbering system in the past to save having to name replays I wished to keep, very useful.

I remember having downloaded a programme for GTL a few years ago that allowed you to deselect cars. You had the option to reselect them again whenever you wanted so no problems online. It was very handy if you had downloaded a lot of Mods and wished to race or practice against cars of your choice rather the random selection that GTL throws up. I lost it when one of my hard drives died and have never been able to find it again. I wonder if anyone knows of it and if still available online where it can be found.

This is what I use, both on the server and on my PC. very useful and highly recommended. http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=22345

And another thing.....

When I designate a setup as my favourite, for say a Lotus, it then tries to apply it to all the other cars as well!  Is this normal GTL or is my install a bit kranky?

It is because with many of these mods, the "different" cars are all based on the same standard game car, so the game sees them as the same car.

Yep, I think that sounds normal. I never designate a favourite. I save each cars setup under a unique name e.g. the car it is for.

Thanks Tony, I have downloaded and installed Strava’s utility. When I try to use it I get the message “Run-time error ‘9’: Subscript out of Range”.  I have Windows XP Professional on the PC I use for GTL.  I have tried experimenting with the compatibility settings but all to no avail. I don’t know if Excel is used and it is something to do with the code. If so it’s beyond my experience. Maybe it used to work in an older version of windows I had and it’s not compatible with XP and 1920x1200 pixels. I’ll have a fiddle around to see if I can find the answer.  :hammer:

Thanks to all for your help and suggestions, especially Tony and Matt for their PM's and files.  I now have a working version of 1967 F1 in GTL.  :smartass:

My G25 seems reluctant to engage correctly with the game.
 I have a huge section around the "straight ahead" portion of the steering that feels as if the piece of knotted string that connects to the front wheels has been replaced with a sub standard rubber band!!

I suspect that this is more to do with the G25 profiler than GTL. But as I have thrashed GTL F1 into submission this evening, I am retiring to bed and will worry about incidentals like steering accuracy around Moanaco until tomorrow.

Once again thanks for all of your patience and help.
To show my gratitude I promise not to win any races for the first half of the season.  So when you mount the podium steps you will know that I gave you that finishing position as a thank you, and that I could have won the race but being the gentleman that I am I restrained myself .  ;D ::) :angel:

Hmm, used to work with Windows XP for me. I think it has a limit to the maximum no. of cars it can handle. Perhaps that is the "Subscript out of range"?

Perhaps try copying a car folder, say GTC-65, to another location, then point Car Manager at that location and see if it works them?

I managed to get it to work by messing around. Not exactly sure how but I’ll live with that. Don’t want to risk messing it up again. A problem with the page being slightly too big for the screen so that I could not access the cars at the bottom of the list but I have solved that by Auto hiding the Task Bar and dragging the List page up fractionally.  Thanks for all your help Tony.  :thumbup1:

I'm sure that Tony will be delighted to learn that I'm having nothing to do with this new way of messing up my F1 install.

If it ain't broke don't fix it!   ;D

Hope all the humans are going to steer better than the AI do.  They seem to be programmed to ignor track limits and when the track limit is solid they clatter about like a ball in a pinball machine.

Race distance increased by two laps.

Since I haven't made it past half distance yet, without having a badly bent car, that hardly seems to matter much.

1:38.9 but then I don't breath through gills

Lappers will need extra patience for this race as it a)might not be apparent to the lapee that someone wants to pass and b) there are not many places to safely pass.

Huge penalties  :hang: will be awarded to anyone found to have caused an incident whilst trying to pass.

Been having problems with my eyes lately when GTL'ing; they dry out because I forget to blink.  This track is not improving my condition... :scared:

Cheers,
Erling

1:38.4 so far yesterday offline, had one single perfect lap last week with a pb of 1:36.9 but that's a kind of an illusion for this event.
Need to turn regularly with times around 1:40 and hoping to see the flag.

Thought I would miss this one due to real life, but it's the week after I will probably have to miss.
So I best get some practice in. I can do 35s fairly regular not really got a flow together yet and usually
bend something very easily.

Did a 1:32.3 yesterday - without blinking even once..   :o

Potential for more, as I saw -0.6xx intermediate times more than once, but invariably tossed it away later on those laps.

Need to try more cars, but doubt I'll be able to do it any quicker (And I have an unfortunate tendency to smash the car at the beginning of the lap following a fast one..  ::)).

Cheers,
Erling

I could be quite proud of my 1:30 if it were not for the fact that I know that Ati7 is two seconds quicker!

However, this race is about lasting the distance.  Wouldn't be surprised if being on the same lap as the winner didn't put you on the podium!

Last man with a running car wins...  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

GPL Record is 1:25, Real life Record is 1:29

I couldn't see this version of the track on GPLRank.  Where does 1:25 come from?

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&location=29&circuit=0

Only tried a couple of the smaller 1.5 litre cars thus far, to get a feeling for this version track. Best lap around 1:32, but not convinced that a 3 litre would be quicker??

maybe the extra grunt will propel it out of the corners a little quicker, but probably also impale it on the barriers at the next even quicker??

I would have said that that time was set on the '67 version of the track, as shipped with GPL.  No swimming pool and the last corner is just a hairpin back onto the start/finish straight.

EDIT:  And I wasn't in that race because it was held on my wedding anniversary.  And I'm still married.

I have an unfortunate tendency to smash the car on every lap!  :o  Just done an hour in the Eagle, during which I managed to do 3 timed laps with a best of 1.36. Cannot see how I can go any faster without hitting the barriers. Chances of finishing this race, zero!

Same here. It will be a challenge to finish the race. My best time 1:32 with lotus.

I can't get any temperature in the Lotus rears no matter what I do.  Whereas the Brabham gives four greens without any trouble?

We could do with four laps behind a pace car to start this one, so that the tyres are warmed up before the racing starts.

BTW That is not a serious suggestion.  We would all still crash behind the pace car.  ::)

The pace car would crash too...  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

Do one lap and you will meet the pace car...............

Well I hope he is looking in his mirrors!   LOL

EDIT:  I've found the count down for joining the grid so that is one more thing out of the way.  I have been practicing my pit stops too, as I think that it will take me two of them to get to the end!  The race is going to be very confusing if some of the fast blokes have a meeting with the Armco early on.  Each pit stop takes getting on for two minutes so they will be a lap down on everyone and nobody will be obliged to get out of their way.

 

I fear that I'll miss this one due to the flu.  :( Maybe I'll try to join for one or two laps ...

Hope you make it Kurt, if not, get well soon.

Go for it Kurt!

Two laps is all most of us are expecting!   ::)

Sorry but I’m going to miss this race also. I’m still recovering from the flu that started a week ago so the score is Influenza 2 GTL 0: I think if I tried to drive fast on this track my arms would drop off after about two laps and if I had a bout of coughing while going through the tunnel I would probably end up in the harbour.   Good luck to all. I may look in out of interest to see how it goes. Hope to c u next week.

Excellent driving at T1 guys, well done!  ::)

That was a waste of a month!

Dunno how many hours I spent practicing for this, and then not even one bloody lap completed  :censored:

Got showed into Geoffers at T1 and probably already had terminal suspension damage at that point.  Rejoined 11th, but later that lap got caught up in the shunt after the chicane.  Lost a wheel & the engine. Race over.  :'(

That was a short one.  Smacked into a dead car on the harbor straight on L1.  One front wheel gone, hoped to make it to the pits for repair but engine wouldn't start.  Try again next week in the Pro Cars.  Stuff happens!!!!!!

Bob M.

From where I was towards the back of the grid,  I could see mayhem developing on the approach to St Devote. :-\  Years of GPL racing makes a guy acutely aware of the potential for a crashfest.

"Too many cars on too little tarmac" I thought and eased back.
Sure enough, someone touched someone else and a chain reaction followed. I picked up about 6 places after I slalomed my way through the wreckage.
The accident after the chicane was unfortunate for me, as I had committed to taking the chicane flat in 5th when I saw cars spinning ahead. There was no way I could stop in time , so I aimed for a gap.........which closed! :(.

By some stroke of luck I ended up past the wreckage but facing the wrong way. I grabbed reverse to get away from the broken cars and managed to spin myself around.. I fully expected my car to be bent or broken, but I thought I would do 2 laps before committing to the pits, just to see if it was driveable. The front end felt a little less grippy but other than that the car was OK, so I pressed on.
One by one the leaders dropped out or went into the pits and I climbed the leaderboard to 2nd spot. It lloked like Matt had avoided the lap 1 chaos as he had a huge lead, and my little 1.5 litre just would not close the gap no matter how hard I tried lol.

Grats Matt on the win.
Commiserations to all those who got tangled up on lap 1.
Monaco is an unforgiving track at the best of times and these open wheeled cars are so vulnerable when side by side. In other classes you can rub door handles and live to talk about it in the bar afterwards, but a small misjudgement in these will send someone over the armco.

Hopefully the next track will be a little more open, but maybe we all need to give a little more space for each other in these cars. If you don't survive, you ain't gonna win.  ::)

Ok lecture over everyone back to the bar............................

Replay and results now posted.

I need to change Roguk's and Bob. M's car from a T77 to a T79 but otherwise the results look correct.

I came through the chicane and headed off along the side of the harbour when the game spat a Lotus out of the catch fence, right in front of me.  I thought that he looked stuck for the duration so didn't pay him as much attention as he obviously deserved.
I was probably one of the spinning cars that you mentioned.  I ended up against the harbour wall but facing the wrong way.  The next car along took off my left front wheel but I was still mobile.

I limped to the pits and sat there for a couple of laps until they said that I could go but they didn't put a wheel on the front left.  >:(  I tried to test the steering as I went down the pit lane to see if I really had a wheel but couldn't see it but that just resulted in a stop n go for speeding so I quit!

Congrats to Matt, Evil, roguk and anyone else who finished!

Not much to report from me about the race. I knew that if I went too fast I would have an early bath so just went slow and easy, making up places from the misfortune of others and avoiding the early carnage on the first lap. Soft tyres wore out very quickly and repeated contact with various barriers/walls left me with a very hard to drive car at the end but I was determined to finish, and finish I did. Grats to Matt for a stellar drive and to everyone who managed to cross the line.
But sorry for the others who practiced hard for this race only to suffer damage especially when it wasn't always their fault but just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time  :(

Please remember that we do offer moderation if you have a gripe against another driver.

Congrats to Matt and rest of the podium, just to finish here is an achievement. The reason I left after practice was because it was obvious to me I was going to have problems in the race and the last thing I wanted was to block the track and take out all the leaders.

Commiserations to all those who were took out in first lap chaos! It's really annoying and frustrating when all the time, laps and effort you put in ends up like that.  :'(

I don't have a gripe against anyone but I have already put in my incident report in the hope that the moderators will make it clear that these are not tin-tops and you can't rub hub caps and door handles.

I frequently had to do a couple of corners "in lanes" in GPL just to make sure that there was nobody alongside before making full use of the width of the track.

I'm assuming that the incident with the Lotus leaping out of the catch fence was some aspect of "Auto Recovery"  rather than anything instigated by the driver.  If it were the latter then it would certainly come under the heading of a bad rejoin.

Being at the back at start i avoided the crash at turn one and weaved my way through okay, same lap shot across chicane down harbour straight to see a Lotus falling out of the railings swerved to avoid and clipped the front of Clive Lyones Lotus (sorry) which sent me into the railings steering was damaged and for some reason XD stopped working, Evil soon caught and passed me, rest of race concentrated on getting car home.

Grats to Matt on win

Grats to Clive on 2nd place

Having started 11th on the grid helped me avoid the big crash at Sainte Devote so i passed between the cars and found myself 2nd behind a flying Ati, but the joy didn't last too much, I think i span around Tabac and rejoined in 5th or 6th place then I started to hit the barriers mainly around Massenet and the car was nondrivable so I pitted for the first time and I rushed my way out of the pits and got a Stop & Go, I did 2 laps then pitted for the penalty then again after a few laps lost my suspension due to some barrier and pitted again and the same story happened a 3rd time so I pitted for the 3rd time and each pit-stop took around 105 sec and i was like 4 laps behind Tony, I guess I broke the score of Pits with 3 + 1 stp & Go  >:(

Anyhow it was a hard Race and I stopped on lap 19 to save some energy for next weeks Monaco race !! lol

That was a race to forget !!!

Congrats to Matt, Evil, Roguk and all the finishers, Hard luck for the rest

At least the result from my side:

Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_M1JZdzRId1Nsckk?ltmpl/index.html)

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Thanks Kurt, hope your feeling better now