Title: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 23, 2015, 01:06:56 PM +0000 Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=495&theme=5) (http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/wiltshire_tony/lemans_zpsttaih5uf.jpg) Grid/server capacity: 28 Track: Le Mans (Bugatti) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg128898#post_lemans_bugatti) Cars allowed: 1967 F1 carset Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_f1_1967) Please follow the installation instructions posted HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13388.0). Car choices Championship position (CP) 1st to 3rd. Any car from Pool 1. CP 4th to 10th. Any car from Pools 1 and 2. CP 11th to 18th and new drivers. Any car from Pools 1, 2 and 3. POOL 1 Ferrari 312 (1966) BRM P83 Honda RA273 Brabham BT11 POOL 2 Brabham BT20 Cooper T79 Lotus 43 Honda RA300 McLaren M5A Ferrari 312 (1967) POOL 3 Eagle T1F Brabham BT24 Eagle T1G Lotus 49 Cooper T81B Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins) Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins) Race: 20:40 (24 laps) Time of Day Setting: 14:00 Start: STANDING Tyre wear: Normal Fuel consumption: Normal Server: simracing.org.uk Monday Password: see above (#post_event_password) Notes: (1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules. (3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read Autopit="0" Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable. Special Notes: None Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on March 13, 2016, 06:42:21 PM +0000 Is this the modern Moto GP circuit?
I appreciate that there isn't much option but it seems awful mincing through these poxy chicanes after the flat out blind of Spa. Couldn't we do the old Sarthe instead? ;D Especially as, after I've made a complete horlicks of Spa, I should still have a good fast car! ::) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: SpecialKS on April 05, 2016, 06:50:50 AM +0100 I'm on my holidays - so I'll miss this one 8)
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on April 16, 2016, 08:20:22 PM +0100 seems to be an iffy track cut warning between turns 4 and 5 that gets applied when you still have four wheels on the tarmac.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 17, 2016, 12:23:42 AM +0100 seems to be an iffy track cut warning between turns 4 and 5 that gets applied when you still have four wheels on the tarmac. Thanks Clive, I'll check that out.Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on April 17, 2016, 08:05:25 AM +0100 It's very strange Tony.
I've driven slowly around there and can't make it happen. Next time I encounter it I shall have to stop and watch the replay. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 17, 2016, 11:30:19 AM +0100 It's very strange Tony. Cuts may not happen if your going too slowly.I've driven slowly around there and can't make it happen. Next time I encounter it I shall have to stop and watch the replay. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Erling G-P on June 07, 2016, 10:36:13 PM +0100 seems to be an iffy track cut warning between turns 4 and 5 that gets applied when you still have four wheels on the tarmac. I can confirm this. If I drive close to the left edge, but still with all 4 on tarmac, I get a cut warning when I'm in the middle of the track heading towards the righthand corner.. :wacko: Cheers, Erling Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 07, 2016, 11:16:42 PM +0100 Ok, cuts are off on the server :thumbup1:
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 08, 2016, 10:08:46 AM +0100 Not just me then! ;D
Still an awful track! ::) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Erling G-P on June 08, 2016, 10:42:52 AM +0100 Not just me then! ;D Still an awful track! ::) Normally I love Le Mans, but I'm with you on this one. Very difficult to get any kind of flow on this track, and tyres stays icy cold, no matter what I do; only left front can get sort of greenish in colour on XD display. Cheers, Erling Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 08, 2016, 11:10:10 AM +0100 Your not alone.
quote from wiki, The Bugatti circuit was seen as somewhat boring and was universally unpopular with both drivers and crowds, with only a reported 20,000 attending the race. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Iceman on June 08, 2016, 05:56:27 PM +0100 Hello all,
I'm new here and hoping to compete in this race on Monday so I thought I should introduce myself. My name is Julien, I'm 26 years old and I was born in Liège, Belgium. Normally my simracing is done with rFactor (@ raceconnect) and RBR (as I'm a rally nut) but I've decided I need more historic racing in my life and so I've reinstalled GTL. I haven't actually played GTL in years so I don't expect to be competitive but for me that's not the point of historic racing. The cars are full of character and the people are usually friendly so I look forward to racing with all of you :) See you on track! Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 08, 2016, 07:08:09 PM +0100 Hi Iceman (do we call you Ice?) and welcome to UKGTL.
You have picked a tough event to join us at, what with all the install faff this mod needs. You might be better off waiting a week and joining us for the Procars but I leave that up to you. We have a praccy server running 24/7 (except Thursday and Sunday nights) which you should try to join. This will throw up any problems and we get a chance to deal with them before race night. We are a very friendly bunch :wacko: (mostly) and we have nice size grids with all abilities from :alien:'s to :wheelchair:. Any questions just ask Cheers WT Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Iceman on June 08, 2016, 07:51:00 PM +0100 Hi Tony,
Thanks for the welcome. And you can call me Julien :laugh: I will try to download all the files and have everything tested by this weekend so I can actually practice. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 08, 2016, 09:21:26 PM +0100 Go for it Julien!
I've tried practice..........................it does me no good at all! Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: [DTR]_Franky_Leone on June 08, 2016, 10:07:40 PM +0100 ICEMAN greetings, welcome to the world of GTL.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: [DTR]_Franky_Leone on June 09, 2016, 10:21:42 PM +0100 Hello.
I can not participate in the race, as I work, I hope to be 20 with you, my best wishes to the participants. Greetings to all ;) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 10, 2016, 09:40:02 AM +0100 Hello. Sorry to hear that. Hope we see you soon.I can not participate in the race, as I work, I hope to be 20 with you, my best wishes to the participants. Greetings to all ;) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 10, 2016, 07:54:48 PM +0100 OK so depress me. What lap time do I need to be doing to still be able to see you after two laps?
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: kaifos on June 11, 2016, 11:19:30 AM +0100 Front tires is not visible cockpit view ??? which will help?
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 11, 2016, 11:31:31 AM +0100 Front tires is not visible cockpit view ??? which will help? In USERDATA find your playername.plr file. Edit file with Notepad. Look for line under GRAPHICS OPTIONS Wheels Visible In Cockpit="1". Make sure it's set to 1.Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: kaifos on June 11, 2016, 11:53:39 AM +0100 Front tires is not visible cockpit view ??? which will help? In USERDATA find your playername.plr file. Edit file with Notepad. Look for line under GRAPHICS OPTIONS Wheels Visible In Cockpit="1". Make sure it's set to 1.Thanks! I got to work. ;D Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 13, 2016, 07:29:40 PM +0100 I can't see the server at 19:27.
What have I got wrong now?! Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2016, 07:43:16 PM +0100 I can't see the server at 19:27. Neither can I!What have I got wrong now?! I'll reset the server Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2016, 07:44:28 PM +0100 Try now
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Bob M. on June 13, 2016, 09:26:27 PM +0100 That was a terrible race for me......Sorry about the rear hit Roger, was totaly
my fault for sure. After that had to pit for suspension fix. Ran more laps and hit a wall this time, decided that was it for me. Not going to give up with F1 cars though, too damn stubborn!!!!!!!!!! Bob M. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 13, 2016, 09:26:51 PM +0100 I left my Lotus parked in the gravel.
How do you get back to the pits? Drive? I've not finished a race before! ;D Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2016, 09:37:48 PM +0100 Replay and results now posted
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2016, 09:41:29 PM +0100 I left my Lotus parked in the gravel. Once you cross the finish line hit Esc or park up or drive back to pits or do some doughnutsHow do you get back to the pits? Drive? I've not finished a race before! ;D Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 13, 2016, 10:01:32 PM +0100 I left my Lotus parked in the gravel. Once you cross the finish line hit Esc or park up or drive back to pits or do some doughnutsHow do you get back to the pits? Drive? I've not finished a race before! ;D I hit Esc which took me to the pits but the wee monitor showed that my car was still ploughing on! And a perfect result! I'm now 11th so can still use the Lotus at Silverstone! :jumpjoy: Grats to Ziu, Coyote and Geoffers. :notworthy: Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 14, 2016, 07:59:45 AM +0100 Well, good race for me yesterday but not good track. I hope not drive never more on Bugatti circuit. Hisotorical edition F1 1967 have Bugatti circuit but i preferd to racing on Rouen, great track for me.
Bugatti problem not it was only tyres temperature but also the layout track, here not there is a point where possible drive agressive way. I have been agressive just on qualy laps, pole 1:34,1 (on practice i got 1:33,9) and i have say honestly that i got this lap time with fuel for 39 laps................why ? Because it was the only way for me to solve the problem about tyres temperature. With so much fuel it was easy to push throttle without get oversteer because rear was balanced. About race same, I start with fuel for 39 laps. My pace could be around 1:34 - 1:35 but i did just one lap under 1:35, I dont wanted risk, just i drove controlling Erling. So race has been bored too. The last laps i slow down too, the difference between me and Erling it was under 1 second at last lap, but i was not worried. Here not was easy pass and we had the same car so if Erling wanted win he had to risk.........and he did on the last corner but he push too on throttle and get spin. It s a shame because could be very nice e romantic finish the race in parade with two Ferrari (http://www.vocinelweb.it/faccine/biggrin/pag2/43.gif) I think that will very interesting championship battle with Erling with the same car. I will drive Ferrari 312 66 until the season end, I sure also Erling. It will be a psychological warfare AHAHAHAHAH !!!!! I like think so (http://www.vocinelweb.it/faccine/biggrin/23.gif) I m disappointed because yesterday few drivers were on the grid. I hope just it was a case also because we have new drivers, I take this opportunity to welcome them. I m waiting the return of Attila and Jose also. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Erling G-P on June 14, 2016, 09:46:13 AM +0100 Good race for me too. Not wild about the track either, but it was growing on me, the more I drove it.
Surprised to be 2nd on grid, but still can't figure out how to get off the line in these cars, so Clive got the jump on me. He next spun out before the Dunlop bridge, handing me back 2nd. Had Geoffers in close attendance the first couple of laps, but then he too had a kitty litter moment. Only saw his car in the distance in my mirrors for the remainder of the race. Up ahead, Ziu stretched the gap to around 6 seconds, after which it seesawed a bit. However, every time I got closer, I would make unforced errors, overshooting a corner and lose the time gained again. Last 3 laps became exiting, as I got real close. Had to be very careful not to punt him off on the final lap, as he braked earlier than I needed to - tyres worse maybe ? Would have finished within 10th of a sec, if I hadn't put the power down too early and spun into the pit lane, like Ziu mentions. Luckily the gap to Geoffers was big enough for me to retain 2nd, after getting back on track. Grats to Ziu & Geoffers for the other podiums; commiserations to Bill who left before the race. Don't think there will be much excitement about the Championship though, unless Ziu starts to make big errors or missing races - or Atilla comes back with a vengeance :) Cheers, Erling Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 14, 2016, 10:17:03 AM +0100 Hi Erling, If i understood well you want know if i braked earlier on corner 13 before take last corner......My answer is no because i never used brake on those point just i leave throttle for some istant i did so always also on qualy lap. On the last 3 corners i use brake just on corner 12, i push ligh way it for get cleaned line. About corner 12 i dont use brake because so i can anticipate the input and so have good traction for the last corner and start straight. I was strong about this, in fact i m sure that you not could pass me on traction.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: roguk on June 14, 2016, 10:39:18 AM +0100 Hi .... should not have raced, track to me was so vague, faded track edges etc (prob my eye sight, will in future stay out of races were track to me is visually poor so as not to ruin racing for other drivers ) sorry Bob M your car was damaged after our kiss so early in race.
Grats to Ziu on win Grats to Podium Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 14, 2016, 12:46:04 PM +0100 Point taken Roger. I too found it near impossible to gauge the apex for the turn called Garage Bleu. But after 10-12 laps I was hitting the right line, most of the time. Fortunately most tracks we use have well defined kerbs etc and at least some visual aids to braking areas.
Bit of a quiet race for me. Was taking it easy in the Honda as I was not that certain of the best lines/braking zones on this track. Passed Bob and Roger as they recovered from their love-in. Managed to extend my lead over Roger but had no chance of catching anyone in front of me unless they made a big error, which didn't happen. Glad to have this one behind us and quite looking forward to Silverstone next. BTW my Honda had a Ferrari dial which was a bit off putting. I need to check our server install and see if there are some files missing or in the wrong folders as offline I have no problem with errant dials. Smallish grid but is the summer (really!). Hopefully the newbies will turn out for the Procars at Hockenheim. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Erling G-P on June 14, 2016, 01:27:02 PM +0100 BTW my Honda had a Ferrari dial which was a bit off putting. I need to check our server install and see if there are some files missing or in the wrong folders as offline I have problem with errant dials. Forgot to mention Tony; I also had a wrong dial yesterday - I believe mine was from a Lotus. Bit annoying to have a 10.000 rpm revcounter and a 12.000 rpm engine, so would be great if it can be fixed. Have a screenshot of it at home, so let me know if you need it. Cheers, Erling Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Bob M. on June 14, 2016, 01:43:35 PM +0100 Roger:
Even though you were slow entering that corner, still my fault for the anal probe. Cars are just a little too skittery for my old reflexes. Should have been more cautious on my following you. Good racing while it lasted.......... Bob M. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 14, 2016, 02:09:01 PM +0100 BTW my Honda had a Ferrari dial which was a bit off putting. I need to check our server install and see if there are some files missing or in the wrong folders as offline I have problem with errant dials. Forgot to mention Tony; I also had a wrong dial yesterday - I believe mine was from a Lotus. Bit annoying to have a 10.000 rpm revcounter and a 12.000 rpm engine, so would be great if it can be fixed. Have a screenshot of it at home, so let me know if you need it. Cheers, Erling Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Erling G-P on June 14, 2016, 02:36:52 PM +0100 BTW my Honda had a Ferrari dial which was a bit off putting. I need to check our server install and see if there are some files missing or in the wrong folders as offline I have problem with errant dials. Forgot to mention Tony; I also had a wrong dial yesterday - I believe mine was from a Lotus. Bit annoying to have a 10.000 rpm revcounter and a 12.000 rpm engine, so would be great if it can be fixed. Have a screenshot of it at home, so let me know if you need it. Cheers, Erling Interesting theory Ziu; if Tony joined after one of us (which he must have; just can't remember if anyone else joined inbetween), that might explain why he had a Ferrari dial. Cheers, Erling Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 14, 2016, 03:33:45 PM +0100 Nice theory but I joined after everyone with the exception of Roger who joined last. Oh but marcfvs kept joining and leaving so he may of been last to join.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on June 14, 2016, 04:06:32 PM +0100 Maybe i m wrong, but result to me that this problem affect just Ferrari and Cooper. The only way to proof of these teory it s that two go on the server the first with Ferrari and second with Lotus and see what happen. We have two Ferrari one 312 67 and second 312 66, i used 312 67 on the test race at Donington but I dont remember if i got some problem. It s pity that yesterday anyone drove Cooper, it would has been interesting know about rpm Cooper without any Brabham ::)
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 14, 2016, 07:01:51 PM +0100 I've had a McLaren with a Ferrari dial. A Honda with a Ferrari dial. And wrong dials in the Cooper. Just thankfull there's that little red light. Oh and my ears work ok.
I've had a cursory look at the server files and all seems to match my own install. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 14, 2016, 09:35:56 PM +0100 I sometimes see different dials in the Lotus but since I don't know which is which I have no idea where they are from. Just sometimes there is a red sector and sometimes not.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 14, 2016, 11:07:04 PM +0100 The Lotus 49 should have the red segment
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 15, 2016, 09:26:05 AM +0100 The Lotus 49 should have the red segment Ah, well sometimes it don't! Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Geoffers on June 15, 2016, 11:33:46 AM +0100 Nothing much to report from me. A fairly lonely run to 3rd place, didn't have the pace to stay with Ziu & although I was lapping around the same speed as Erling, I wasn't consistent enough & also had 3 off course excursions.
Congrats to Ziu & Erling. :clap: :clap: Regarding the dials problem, I must admit I hadn't really noticed it until now, I think I had Lotus dials in the McLaren. Never really look at the rev counter when I'm driving, usually relying on the shift light when learning the car/track, after that the engine noise makes it automatic when to change gear. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: [DTR]_Franky_Leone on June 16, 2016, 03:44:07 PM +0100 Hi. :)
Congratulations to all participants, especially Ziu Bacubacu, Erling GP and Geoffers for the podium, if no last minute changes, see you on Monday. :D A greeting. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: SpecialKS on June 21, 2016, 07:40:47 PM +0100 Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_ZGx0cDd1ZGF5WEU?ltmpl/index.html)
8) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967 - Le Mans - Jun 13 Post by: Clive Loynes on June 21, 2016, 10:03:17 PM +0100 Thanks Kurt. :thumbup1:
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