SimRacing.org.uk

Grid/server capacity: 28

Track: Silverstone GP 70's Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_silverstone70)

Cars allowed: 1967 F1 carset Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_f1_1967)

Please follow the installation instructions posted HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13388.0).

Car choices

Championship position (CP) 1st to 3rd. Any car from Pool 1.

CP 4th to 10th. Any car from Pools 1 and 2.

CP 11th to 18th and new drivers. Any car from Pools 1, 2 and 3.

POOL 1

Ferrari 312 (1966)
BRM P83
Honda RA273
Brabham BT11

POOL 2

Brabham BT20
Cooper T79
Lotus 43
Honda RA300
McLaren M5A
Ferrari 312 (1967)

POOL 3
 
Eagle T1F
Brabham BT24
Eagle T1G
Lotus 49
Cooper T81B

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (32 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Install new Gauge fix patch http://www.mediafire.com/download/52p4nvg47pu8d4t/F1-1967_Gauge_Fix_GTL.rar

Great to be back on a proper circuit, although some of the corners seem less well defined than the old GPL version.

IMPORTANT

Could all drivers pleae install this small patch which the mod creators are hoping fixes the dial swopping glitch http://www.mediafire.com/download/52p4nvg47pu8d4t/F1-1967_Gauge_Fix_GTL.rar

Done that and it hasn't killed GTL.  So that's got to be good!

Ditto!  ;D

Oh ye of little faith  ::)

It must be a "proper patch" as even I managed to get it done.  ;D

Tried a few laps with the white whale after doing the software thing and was struggling with understeer. Although I applied the same sort of set up changes that I would in GPL, I don't seem to get the same results?? I guess there is no reason why I should expect it to work in the same way, but then again it did seem logical that it should?

Only did a few practice laps and was some 6-8 secs off the AI pace. Looks like I shall have to resort to pure driving skill to stand a chance of being competitive, but that route does not fill me with hope!!!

Quite nice in the Lotus.   ::)

I keep going on the server but never find anyone.   :(

Will have to give the AI some grief.

Nice track indeed. 1:22.4 in the Eagle Weslake with shortened Spa setup so far.

I'm thinking that my ancient pc may not be up to this.   :(

If I do a single player practice session then I can lap reasonably consistently in the high 1:18s.

But if I add a dozen AI my car is almost impossible to control.  I expect that the cpu isn't quick enough to run the AI and also give my steering wheel the attention it deserves.

I suspect that the same is true when we race.  The cpu is too busy plotting where you lot have got to!   :(

Clive, try this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12160.msg218224#msg218224 and also set graphics to medium.

What spec is your PC?

Also as you didn't have a problem at Monaco I doubt you will suffer  PC performance issue's here

How do I connect to server?

I probably did have a problem at Monaco.  At the start I was clouted by everybody and his mate so it was difficult to know what was going on but my inability to stop before ploughing into the ruck at T1 may have had something to do with it.

I have long though that the more people that were on the server then the slower I would be.

I will take a look at your link.

How far have you got?

Are you in the Lobby?

The download link didn't work and I can't find it because I don't know what I'm looking for.

Link is working. You should have a new file called 4gb_patch.exe

Hi Will and welcome to UKGTL.

Actually race night isn't the best time to sort out problems but if we can help we will but we need to know what you have done so far to get to where your at. You would probably be better off not trying to join tonight (unless it's an easy fix to get you up and running) as it's a tough race with tricky cars. You have been warned.

Next Mondays meeting is a much gentler affair. Just saying.

Anyway hope to meet you on track either tonight or in the near future.

Cheers

WT

The link just opened a new tab and did nowt!

But I examined your link and identified what you were after.

I have run it and it may be slightly better when used with the AI.  Still a bit off.

Is there any special instructions regarding the server you guys are on? I'm in the lobby and don't see anything. I'm in the US east coast area.. not sure if that has anything to do with it.

are you seeing a totally empty lobby?

yes... totally empty. Also I'm located in the US east coast area

Missed another start on this Mickey Mouse Game.

Don't think I need to waste any more time on it.

Apologies to the driver of the car I ran up over at the start, hope I didn't mess up your race.  Joined Tony in La La Land  :o off the end of T1 where I out braked my self and jumped the fence.  ::)

These things exceed my reaction time  :wheelchair: and I end up lapping too far off the pace or wrecking the car!  :thumbdown:

1st off sincere apologies to Bob, totally my fault, I did think it was Tony I had hit when I saw him DNF but looking at the replay it was Bob. I had a mental block as to where I was on the lap and thought it was a different corner and came in way to hot. No great consolation I'm sure but I'm thankful you could continue after repairs. For my part I went over the barrier and into oblivion, not the most auspicious entry into the F1 series. I didn't even expect to be able to make any of his series, probably better if I had missed this one as well. Perhaps I'll stick with the tin tops in future.

Sorry again.

TTFN
John.

I practiced all morning for this race.. Silverstone lap times averaging around 1:20.00..... but couldn't see the server in lobby for some reason. :( feeling really sad I missed out

Sorry to hear that Will.

Sadly the bloke who can sort you out is busy racing.

I think it is something to do with the "LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.txt"  but I've just looked to see what mine says and I can't even find it!

Good luck on the next one.

Replay and results now posted.

What a shame we lost so many at turn 1, me included  ::)

Hi Will. I now have time to try to sort you out.

Firstly it would have been nice if you had posted an introduction and said Hi  :yes: Then maybe we could have helped you out earlier. Still here we are so lets crack on. Firstly where is your GTL from? DVD? Steam? somewhere else?

Sorry to see that you did not make the grid Clive, I was hoping to be able to hassle that green thing with a proper white car  ;).

For the first time retirement has helped me prepare for a race lol. A weekend spent away from home babysitting grandchildren with my wife, and today was an officially designated recovery day  ;D. So this afternoon I had an hour to experiment with the beast that is the Honda!

Arnold was directed to solve the understeer problems and with the appliance of science (it looked more like a scaffold tube and sledge hammer to me, but what do I know? I just drive the things!) plus generous portions of shocks and springs. Mabel donated her suspenders to beef up the bump rubbers and a driveable car was born.

Practice was a chance to refine ( although that word does seem wrong when I was throwing the car into corners!) my lines, braking points and downshifts. All of this was done on race fuel, but even then I was a little in awe of the times being posted by the resident aliens in their Ferraris and Lotii.
It was obvious that for quali I would have to run on light fuel, so I dumped a tanker full from my race setup and promptly frightened myself!!!! The car was so heavy with race fuel that I was having to brake quite early and wait before I could get on the gas, but on light fuel it came alive and I found myself dicing with the aliens . I qualified the White Whale in 4th and expected to be on the second row, so imagine my terror when I joined the grid to find myself on the outside of a congested 4 car front row!!
I thought that I had screwed the start when the engine almost bogged down, but in fact the power of that Honda v12 pulled it forward with zero wheelspin and I was into T1 in 2nd spot!!!   Maipor had got the best start and was flying, Ziu was very keen to get after him, but I was not about to make it too easy.
It was only a matter of time before he did make the move and once Ziu was past he pulled away, and I was left to watch my mirrors and hope to hold on to 3rd place. Erling and his Ferrari was a safe distance behind for the fiirst 20 laps, then he closed the gap and started being a real nuisance lol. He was almost close enough to benefit from any mistakes I made, and several times he closed to within 0.5 secs and I had to wrestle the Honda for a lap or two just to rebuild what I considered a safe cushion of 1.5 secs.

I was worried about my tyre choice before the race, but the decision to run soft fronts and hard rears seemed to be right as I still had 50% tyre life left at the flag and 100% on the engine, so maybe I could have been a little more aggressive. Probably my ambition would have exceeded my ability if I had tried to go faster for the whole race....that is what usually happens  ::)

Grats to Ziu and to Maipor, and to Erling for some great racing right to the flag.



 

Steam

We have help post's that could be of use in this situation.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12125.msg217542#msg217542
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10850.msg196529#msg196529

Read these and see if anything helps. Unfortunately I never had the Steam version so I'm a little in the dark about these things. But others here have been thru what your doing now so please ask any questions and we should be having you up and running in no time.

I happy for my race but for the first time since i m driving POOL1 car i felt all the difference of power among POOL1 POOL2 and POOL3. In fact Silverstone it s a power track for traction and speed. If some one say that I won with 32 seconds on MaiPor it s a mistake. I won because i found the perfect or almost perfect setup for Ferrari here. To confirm that enough see Erling laps time. Erling it s strong driver enough see standings for see but for the first time he meeting some difficult with POOL1 here.

About MaiPor, he had a great setup with only defect, the gear setup. Mai if you go on replay onboard to my car you can hear when i change gear and when you change gear, so if you choice to use short gears in this moment we talked about another race. But you just watch replay.

I repeat always however that for win need push as hammer so what i wrote up here it s theory.

I builded my Pole and my race between Club corner and Woodcote, my Ferrari was perfect here until the start straight. After need power, in fact i never earned before Stowe, just I have taken advantage of the smoothness of Ferrari and for get it i used rear anti-rollbar hard.

I think that if Evil and MaiPor dont mistake on the first laps, honestly i dont know where i could pass.

I like these track but i dont understood why poleman have start on internal line ???,for me it s wronged. I dont mistake my start but i lost 2 places because Ferrari power and start line................


After what i saw here i think that in Monza i dont have any possibility to win and maybe to take podium. Monza corners almost same of Silverstone corners but Too long straights and few corners in Monza.

About championship i dont see so much it, yesterday i pushed all race without any calculations. It was a true pleasure to have my tyres at the right temperature always and little consumption. Bugatti has been a nightmare for tyres !!!!! In Silvesrtone i could get a good job with setup because tyres always perfect, just i hope will go so also on the Nordschleife the next race.....I dont know but it would nice to go under 8 minutes ;D, but we will see not possible know now. 

Concluding Grats all and big thanks to Tony one for organization second because every time i send to him a private message he answer to me immediately and with very patience. Thanks Tony for these disposability.

Hi Will .... go to your GT Legends folder, scroll down and remove or delete the line   LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT   launch GTL go to multiplayer then internet, try to connect if you get   login failed invalid username/password   register with a new username and password then connect, in lobby look down list and you will see     Simracing.org.uk Mondays   you will be able to join using the correct practice or race password.

Silverstone is a popular track, but never really a favorite of mine.  Struggled to find any form of consistency here in offline practice - I would do a fast lap (well, fast for me..), only to be completely incapable of repeating it for the next many laps.

Aside from my grid position, I was happy with qualifying, as I knocked an unlikely 0.5 sec off my pb.  Still haven't mastered getting off the line, and lost a position to Kurt. Didn't matter much though, as he slid off on cold tyres a few corners later.  Thus with Clive L's noshow, I was up to 4th.  Cars behind me dropped back already on L1, and I never saw them again.

Thus the entire race was one long, hard, but nondescript chase of Clive.  Whenever I get close to another car, I tend to fall back again, partly from lifting off and braking earlier, to make sure I don't rearend the car in front, and partly from getting my lines wrong, when too much attention is focused on the car in front.  Thus not able to pass Clive, who held under the pressure I tried to assert on him, and I finished in the 4th place I had been the entire race.

Grats to the podium and commiserations to all the casualties.  Thanks to Tony for organizing.

Cheers,
Erling

Hi Will, the next Monday's race is a two heat race and hence, even if your not interested in this Series it will give you two chances to log on to our server by copying the track and a couple of car sets.

Our website is currently setup for this race and will give you plenty of opportunity to try and sort out your program.  (Note on certain days it will change to an alternative SROU simulator format practice/qualifying/race and not be available to GTL.) Tony is the best person to advise on setting up GTL to the lobby we use.

BTW anyone have the wrong dials last night?

Sorry, forgot to mention it - no, everything was fine yesterday  :)

Cheers,
Erling

Yes.

Don't ask me which ones they were but they were not the usual ones with a red segment on the rev counter.

Thanks Clive. I wonder if the dials can be seen from the replay. Anyhow I'll let the mods know.

First off big welcome to Will, good to see another country man in the field.  When you get all set up you will find a great bunch of guys on the track!!!!
The race didn't go as planned as usual, in a collision on lap 1 at the end of the long straight.  Car was still running so changed the view and saw all 4 wheels on the car.  Too stubborn to quit so made for the pits and got repairs to suspension.  Mostly just drove the track and saw a few cars along the way but was a couple of laps down so just tried to stay out of the way.  Made it until around L25 or so and then car started acting funny.  Looking back I should have put on new tires, maybe they were injured  in the wreck some.  Any way didn't brake soon enough for the last turn and went into the wall.  After that just hit the ESC and watched the rest of the race from the pits. Gonna finish one of these races yet, odds are in my favor I think!

Thanks All
Bob M.

Roger, I think to register for the first time you have to fill in the Steam GTL purchase code to show you are using a valid copy of GTL. I did do it that way originally but in one of those lock up situations I had to re-register and used my original disc online code for speed and convenience.

Hi Bill .... yes you could be right. For me after i had used serial on steam, i removed lobby text and just had to register with new name and password, hopefully Will can try both ways and get on line okay, and you are right Tony is the expert on all things GTL.

Tony last night dash was correct.

Race early on went off and damaged car now had worse cornering than when i started, Bob M when you came out of pits you left me, kept looking in mirrors expecting to see you catch me, lonely race for me and lucky to get 5th due to others misfortunes.   

 Did as instructed... but now I can't even connect to servers. Thanks for your efforts... and I will keep trying to figure this out. Let me know if you have any more ideas.

Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_MHdwM0VMeGJUNTQ?ltmpl/index.html)

 8)


Not much to say about this one except an unexpected finish. CU next week  ;)

Hi Will did you 1 remove lobby text 2 register with new name and password 3 did you enter your correct email, at bottom of screen did it say  playernameneverused ? did you click on login or click on the big arrow right of screen ? let us know and what screen you got next.

Quote   3.Launch GTL
 4.Go to Multiplayer->Internet and click Register. Select a different Username and Password than your old one. Click the arrow (not login button) to register. If you don't get "Registration Successful" at first, try a few different usernames/passwords.
 5.When you have registered successfully, you will be taken to the login screen. It will still show your old Simbin Username so you first have to replace it with your new Username and Password. If you login successfully you should then log into the Altbierbude lobby.
 6.If it didn't work, try to register with a new username

1 Yes.. I removed lobby text 2 Yes.. I registered with new name and password 3 Yes.. I entered my correct email and I do not recall if it said playernameneverused... probably not. I did not click on login... I clicked on arrow to the right of the screen and it said.. registration failed: could not connect to the server

Hi Will. I do sympathise. This part of GTL can be seriously stressful. When you say "I can't even connect to servers" can you tell us what error messages you see, if any? Every little bit of info you provide, helps us, help you.

Thanks for the results Kurt.

Try the registration part again. Often it doesn't work. No idea why not but it is worth trying again. Don't bother with a long password. Maybe just use your initials or something really short.

 I tried using multiple new usernames and passwords... all I get is "registration failed: could not connect to the server"

     Although this situation is extremely frustrating I will not give up and hope to figure all this out so we can meet on the the track.

Just an idea as I had/have that issue every time I try to "register" a new GTL for online gaming (10 years old original DVD): does your antivirus software allow the connection to the server? I got a.m. message each time together with a popup from my Avira (still using XP) which asks me whether I want to allow the connection to the server.

Good luck.

Kurt, on a slightly unrelated matter; I pinged www.gtl-server.net last night and had a return IP of 37.59.215.248. This is not what we state in another thread under GTL Announcements. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13595.msg244611#msg244611  I'm thinking we should delete this thread if it is miss leading/wrong. What do you think?

Strangely the replay I have shows your car in the pits with the correct dials. Way too confusing  :wacko:

Can you see dials in other cars than your own (or the 'chosen' one in the server replay, which I believe was mine on Silverstone) ?

Anyway, dials in replays have always been suspect if I'm not mistaken - in mine, they very often look (more or less) like the dials from a different car. 

Cheers,
Erling

I'll look into it when I'm at home tonight ...

@ Will - For the sake of my sanity can you check something for me please?

In the folder UserData you will find a file yourname.plr. Can you open it with Notepad (or similar) and scroll thru it until you reach the Multi-player section. Look for these lines


Host IP Address=
Online Server=

What do you read after the =

Will:
To go with what Kurt posted.  I use Win7 and had a problem one time with Windows security locking me out...Go to Control panel/SystemSecurity/click allow a program through windows firewal/scroll down and see if GTL box is checked, if not checked will not allow a connection.
Just a thought, hope you get it sorted out.  Sometimes can be very frustrating for sure,but you will get there!!!!

Bob M.

Edit:When I installed McAfee security it unchecked them, had a he** of a time finding the problem. Then my 16yo neighbor kid figured it out in about 3 minutes...........

Host IP Address= 87.106.216.161
Online Server= GTL_SERVER.TXT

Yes it is checked... not sure why I can't connect to server but I won't give up. Thanks mate

Ok, can I suggest that you change it to look like this

Host IP Address=""
Online Server="GTL_SERVER.txt"

By all means keep a unaltered copy of your.plr somewhere safe if you like.

Yeah still not working... and Yes I have an unaltered copy nice and safe  :)

 Thanks to all those who have been helping me try to sort this out... I really appreciate all of your efforts but unfortunately I found out this morning that a close friend of mine passed away last night due to a heroin overdose.. so I'm in ruins right now :'(. I will be taking a break from this server issue to attend to personal matters but rest assured I will be back at it. Hope you all are well and healthy... enjoy the races  :)      

So sorry to hear this Will, please accept my condolances  :'(

Kind regards,
Erling

Shocking news for you Will. Hope your able to get thru the next few days. Best wishes.

Sorry - unable to answer yesterday evening as I'm without internet connection at home for the first time in seven years  ???

Only found out that I obviously deleted the "LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.txt" file in all of my GTL installs which are used online. I remember that I could not connect to the lobby too during last winter and found  - I assume at Altbierbude - an information that it is no longer necessary and can/has to be deleted.

Concerning the ping I'll look.

edit: online again  8) still working with me: 91.121.27.29 www.gtl-server.net
                       although I pinged    PING www.gtl-server.net (37.59.215.248) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                            64 bytes from 37.59.215.248: icmp_seq=1 ttl=120 time=34.9 ms
                       too.

+1  :-[

Hi Will, Sorry.