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Track: Mexico City GP '67 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187123#post_mexicocity67)

Cars allowed: 1967 F1 carset Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_f1_1967)

Please follow the installation instructions posted HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13388.0).

Car choices

Championship position (CP) 1st to 3rd. Any car from Pool 1.

CP 4th to 10th. Any car from Pools 1 and 2.

CP 11th to 18th and new drivers. Any car from Pools 1, 2 and 3.

POOL 1

Ferrari 312 (1966)
BRM P83
Honda RA273
Brabham BT11

POOL 2

Brabham BT20
Cooper T79
Lotus 43
Honda RA300
McLaren M5A
Ferrari 312 (1967)

POOL 3
 
Eagle T1F
Brabham BT24
Eagle T1G
Lotus 49
Cooper T81B

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: The track limits are marked by either solid white lines or broken yellow lines (or both). You may have two wheels over the line but no more. Consistently crossing the lines with four wheels will be considered as cutting and penalty's will be given.

The track for this race has been updated. If you have already downloaded the previous version please delete it and download the new version.

I'm finding the Track Cut Warnings a bit over zealous here. I need to recalibrate my brain to use the white lines as the edge of the track and not the Track/Grass or walls as the boundary. Took me 4 laps tonight before I even posted a time. :(

TTFN
John.

So is this a subtle way to ask me to turn cuts off?

Cuts are off, enjoy (but keep two wheels on the tarmac please Gents)

Important

The race length has been increased to 26 laps.

Drivers are warned not to consistently cut corners, particularly at turn 10. We will be monitoring this.

I will be  giving this race a miss?

Gutted, a fave series at a fave track, and I have to go to Edinburgh Monday evening for work  :(

And tarmac includes the sections outside the white lines ?

Cheers,
Erling

You may cross the white line with two wheels only.

You will have to shout louder Tony, I don't think they heard you. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CD36TroT0&index=16&list=PLddo13aRu2ub-4EaV3jaoidrGT5r8RkgJ

TTFN
John.

 :lol: Yep, all disqualified

Interesting to compare the attitude of the drivers on the podium to those of today!  ::)

Yes, All very civilised... Did you notice the Camera guy @ 2m.

TTFN
John.

Replay now posted.

Unfortunately we have a problem importing one of the cars into the results system. I will post the results as soon as possible.

Hi Tony,
 Check my car.. I'm not aware of any issues but in my own replay I'm on the track alone. The server replay shows me just fine but something a bit weird somewhere.  ???

TTFN
John.

Did you load the replay straight from the race ?

If so, it's very common for some (all?) of the other cars to be invisible.  If you exit and load it a second time, things will be normal.

Cheers,
Erling

Aha, didn't know that. Yes you are right Erling, Restarted GTL and all looks fine in both replays..

1 thing I did notice in the race was I had the wrong instruments which I know has been mentioned before. My F1 GTL install gave me a blue screen of death last night so I had a rather hurried re install into a virgin GTL load to get on-line tonight.

TTFN
John.

Just to clarify: you don't have to exit GTL; only the replay and then load it again.

I'm not sure my revcounter was the right one either, but at least the one I had went to 12000 rpm. Earlier I've had some with 10000 rpm scales, which was really annoying in a car that revs to 12000.

Cheers,
Erling

Sorry Tony for the massive bump which obviously destroyed your race  :-[. Didn't expect that I was able to brake so much later than yourself at that corner of the track.
Had to pit myself but car wasn't driveable any more so I quit.

Thanks a lot for organizing this series - looking forward to the change from F1 to CanAm.

The dial was of Eagle because SpecialKS was the first to go on the server, i was the second so Ferrari dial was of Eagle. About rpm for me it was right because the V12 Weslake it s at 12 rpm like Ferrari, at least on my car was so.

Enjoyable finish to a great series yesterday.

Ziu's pole time was otherworldly, so 2nd on the grid was the best I could have hoped for.  As expected, John made one of his usual lightning starts, mugging all in front of him. I can't for the life of me work out how to get fast off the line in these cars, but I'm sure he'll mock me about how easy it is..  :-\

To my surprise I was in 2nd at T1, so somehow Ziu's start must have been worse than mine.  In a couple of laps he had closed the gap, and shot past going into the final curve.  Being so close, I was sucked along in the slipstream down the straight. I had to pick between pulling out and overtake, or back off and stay behind. Chose the latter, as he was obviously faster, and I figured it was tactically to my advantage if he could harass John up front.  To my surprise, it took him quite a long time to get close to John, and then he had a moment at T2, letting me past again.

I did not exactly help myself stay ahead when later on that lap, I completely bungled my gear selection when entering the long string of S-curves. Was one gear too high in most of them. A lap later we had a repeat of the first time Ziu passed me.  Again I held back down the straight, hoping he and John might slow each other down.  Again many laps passed before he got real close to John, but once he got past, he quickly extended the gap. That only added to the puzzle of why he took so long, but maybe John's 'Verstappen defence' made him vary of making a move..

After Ziu had gone, I very slowly reeled in John over several laps. He had moments here and there, but exploiting them proved difficult, as he seemed rather determined to keep his position  ;)
Increasingly though, he appeared to have problems at the very tight 1st-gear hairpin, finally losing enough momentum for me to make it past. 5-6 laps to go, so wondered if I could hold him off till the finish.  Turned out not to be a problem, as the gap extended a little with each lap.  Maybe his tyres were worse than mine, which were still fine.  Thus a great finish for me. 

Grats to Ziu on the win and of course the Championship  :clap: :clap: :clap:   Grats to John on the final podium place.  Not sure who got 3rd in the Championship, but grats to whoever it is  :)  :clap: :clap:

Thanks as always to Tony for organising a great series!!

Cheers,
Erling

No probs Kurt. I was too hot going in to the turn and had to brake harder than you probably expected. Anyway I enjoyed watching the fast guys battle. Can't sat that this track is a fav of mine so wasn't such a hardship to miss out.

First thing thanks to Jeep and Erling for funny night, after the battle of yesterday is useless to talk about  setups or  lap times or standings because all this stuff is secondary. What is important that yesterday we got a great race not for the win but for the content the battle, it could be for the last places but after the races i was very satisfied, i remember a simile after the race at Bryar, Clive Goeffers and me.....

About race Erling wrote all on the his post. My compliments for John and his style it has been very very hard to pass him. He had the advantage of the engine on the start straight but i think that he drove very good on the corners after hairpin. I think that he had a problem with braking balancing mostly after half race with few fuel, it seems to me so.

I know that Erling is a tactic driver and when i saw that he give up to stay too closed to me and John it was clear that he was waiting......maybe a contact between me and John ? Well, i found a nickname for Erling "The Professor" .

Grats to Erling and John not for podium (yesterday not so much important) but for battle and Big thanks to Tony, he has been very wise put S&G off and watching the video posted from John it was right so.

I hope to see an other F1 championship when it will possible, but for sure if Tony organize  F1 1967 championship again I will drive every race Ferrari 312-66, these car became Ziu car, i never lost one race with my Ferrari.

Well, you can always hope  ;D - and thanks for the nickname  :)

Edit: The only times I was waiting, was down the straight after you passed me in the curve.  Everywhere else, I was going as fast as I could  :)


Next time Tony will make the handicap that you HAVE to use one of the faster cars instead  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

Results now posted. Sorry for the delay.

Our very first open wheel F1 Championship is finally done and at last we can hail Ziu as the outright winner  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

2nd Erling (The Professor)  :punk: :punk:

3rd Geoffers  :thumbup2:

Well done Gents. Thanks to everyone for taking part in this new series. The mod is almost perfect but it's a shame that we have that "wrong dials in my car" problem. Also they are a little to quick and have too much grip. Will they return to UKGTL? All I can say is possibly and leave it there  :-\

Huh, how did that happen!  ???

This track highlighted how far I am from being half-decent in these cars. I only did well at Watkins Glen because the track was so easy. I know I have said it before but I really don't like these cars because they are so unrealistically fast & have too much grip. That said, a big congratulations to Ziu who has really got these cars sorted & been utterly dominant in the Ferrari. Also to Erling in 2nd place in the championship, very well done. Congrats also to Jeep, great drive last night.

Finally many thanks to Tony for superb organisation.  :thumbup2:

This was enjoyable series for me and when car problems sorted would like to see another F1 67 championship.

Grats to Ziu on race win

Grats to Podium


Grats to Ziu on winning F1 67 Championship
Grats to Erling 2nd
Grats to Geoffers 3rd

 A BIG Thanks to Tony for organizing and running all of the series 16 events.

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Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/F1_67_Mexiko_City_12122016)

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Not much for me to report on the race.  I saw Roger a couple of times as he passed me, after he had problems and went off the track.  I was no competition for him, the Mac was fast out of the corners and down the straight but he lost me in the twisties.  About lap 13/14 the car started understeering badly into the corners, so I tried to compensate by getting out of the corners faster but then went into oversteer on exit.  Had two brushes with the walls about lap 18 or so and after that was pulling to the right.  Decided to just deal with it and finish.  Think I was lapped by everyone starting about that time..
Congrats to the podium Ziu, Erling and John and big grats to my partner Ziu for taking the championship of the series and Erling for 2nd and Geoff for 3rd.   I know most of you like these cars but not me.  Reflex's just too slow I think, that's my excuse anyway....

But if they come back will join in anyway!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob M.

Many thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:

A great race for me. Qualified with a very high 1:36 which was pretty close to matching my PB which still put me over 2 full seconds behind Ziu who posted an amazing 1:34.6 and Erling who was the best part of 0.75s up the road but I was a healthy 1.2s ahead of Geoffers which surprised me.

Got my legendary blistering start. I would like to say these come naturally, but in fact I do practice them and every car is different. It took me a good many attempts when I switched from the Eagle to the Ferrari before I was comfortable. The secret (At least for me) is finding the edge of wheelspin. I floor it initially but almost immediately back off until I can "feel" the rears finding grip and then "ride" the feeling until I slot it into 2nd. Hard to describe and I wish I could do it in GPL cars. Result was I slipped between Erling and Ziu and was leading by the 1st turn.

I'm in no confusion as to where I am in the food chain regarding driving skills and knew I was in exalted company and somewhat out of my depth. Both Ziu and Erling were quickly on my case but seemed to be tripping each other up occasionally and I somehow stayed in front for a lot longer than I expected. They were all over me through the sequence of left/right turns towards the end of the lap but I always managed to get a much better exit out of the final turn. Eventually though on the run down to the hairpin on lap 15 I lost Ziu in my mirrors. That could only mean 1 thing he was coming up on the inside. A quick glance confirmed my worse fears and I had to stay wide allowing him through. Once free he extended his lead at the rate of about a second per lap and I now had a very interested Erling climbing all over my gearbox. As the fuel burned off the handling took a turn for the worse and this combined with me having to push further and harder into corners to keep ahead meant I knew it was all going to end badly. Sure enough on lap 21 I went into the hairpin way too fast, drifted well wide and hit the wall hard on the exit which let Erling through. initially gave chase but it was obvious something wasn't quite right. The steering seemed straight enough but I now had a rhythmic "Knock through the wheel particularly noticeable on the straights and a tendency to oversteer on right handers and understeer on lefts. I checked Prib and saw I had a very comfortable cushion over Roguk but was losing time to Erling by around 2 seconds a lap. Continued to push as hard as I dared in the vain hope the 2 in front might make a mistake but lap times were now down in the 1:39's and I had a very lonely last few laps.

But for the most part I thoroughly enjoyed holding up Ziu and Erling for the 1st half of the race and managed to play to my strengths, which unfortunately were no match for their strengths over race distance.

Congrats to Ziu on the championship and Erling and Geoffers for 2nd and 3rd spots.

I shall miss these.. I have to admit at being extremely sceptical originally being a die hard GPL fan and despite (Or perhaps because of) the grip and speed they do allow for some close racing.

I know Tony mentioned he was going to contact the conversion team for a few tweaks.

I hope we will see them again.

TTFN
John.

No need to put yourself down John - until you damaged your car, we were very equal in terms of laptimes.  Ziu of course is in a class of his own  :)

Thanks for the tips regarding starting. Must see if I can somehow make the technique work - would be nice not to be completely mugged at every start  ;)

Cheers,
Erling