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Season 29 Privateers Trophy - Round 05 - Balcarce

Autódromo Juan Manuel Fangio is a motorsports circuit located near Balcarce, Argentina. It has hosted events in the Turismo Carretera series. The 2011 race saw tragedy as young Argentinian Guido Falaschi was fatally injured in a multi-car crash.

The track was named after Argentinian racing legend, Juan Manuel Fangio, who was born in Balcarce.

There is a track upgrade available at SRMZ (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=10601&#entry108715) you should use!

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 29-11-2015
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Balcarce (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Tracks/Balcarce/)
Race length = 32 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season29/Grads_Privs/)

Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=510&theme=6)

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

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Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

I might be forced to miss this due to ongoing problems with my G25. It has worked perfectly well as a straightforward Plug n Play device for the past 7 years under XP and W7 but after upgrading to W10 I could no longer assign axes and buttons directly in GPL but had to use the Logitech profiler.
Following the recent mega update, it is no longer detected by the Profiler and when I run the  'update Driver' routine I get the message 'The operation requires an interactive window station'.
Apparently this is a problem related to some obscure Windows security systems that requires some deep innards delving or a complete OS reinstall to resolve.
I've tried reinstalling the profiler several times and using various USB sockets to no avail.

Curiously I have an ancient laptop that has been similarly updated with W10 and the Profiler installs on that and recognizes the G25 without issues so I'm not sure why it has taken a disliking to my PC.
I copied my GPL folder over to the laptop in the hope of using that but it froze - presumably because it is underpowered.

That is a shame because I always measure my success by whether I can match your pace.

As a temporary fix, could you could install an older operating system on a separate hard drive for GPL? Then you would have more time to sort the Windows 10 bugs. 

Michael, send Cookie a PM in case he does not read this thread. He is a genius at computer problems. I am a muppet with computers but it might be worth going onto the Logitec site & dowmloading an installer - they might have an update.
I have resisted installing Windows 10 as I feared it would mess up GPL.

Hope you figure it out Michael, I'm still using Win XP...this mobo won't even run W7...

Michael: a quick scan of help forums reveals that you may need to reinstall windows with the device in question plugged in (worked for someone's USB headset on Win8 w/ same error, and Micro$oft was no help whatsoever).

Probably not the answer you wanted to hear, hopefully Cookie (or someone else) has a better one.

GL w/ it, hope you're back up soon.

does this help at all ?

http://www.isrtv.com/forums/topic/18879-logitech-g27g25-windows-10-compatibility-fix/ (http://www.isrtv.com/forums/topic/18879-logitech-g27g25-windows-10-compatibility-fix/)

That's the problem using a "banana" software...

I hope Bernie's link is the solution. Else go back to the ripe W7 ;)

Thanks to all for the replies. I've tried the latest drivers from Logitech as well as various compatibility settings and using different  USB2 and USB3 sockets but without success.
I don't think it's essentially a W10 issue since it installs OK on the W10 laptop and all other devices and controllers are problem free. The problem is with the obscure 'interactive window station' which it seems, from all my Googling, nobody seems to understand.

I think I'll try a vanilla GPL installation on the laptop and take it from there

I'll probably have to do an OS reinstall eventually somewhat reluctantly since that will also mean reinstalling the FSX flight sim plus 500GB of add ons which will take a fortnight to install and tweak :(

Mike , ceck & make sure you have the right wheel installed in the logitech profiler

Seem to remember I had the same problem with my new pc (win7 ) it was showing a different wheel to the G25 I use , took me ages to twig on 

Bernie, the Profiler doesn't detect the G25
It shows up under  'Devices and Printers' as 'Unspecified' and under 'Devices' as 'Other'. When I click on 'Driver Update' and let Windows search for the driver, it reports that
it found the driver but couldn't install it because of the 'interactive window station' requirement mentioned above

As said i use win7 not sure if this is any help but do have a folder :-

c:/ Programs/Logiteck /Logitech gaming software (or something on those lines ) in there are 2 more folders , one has all the .dll files ( drivers?) + a readme txt help file 

P.S. it does say you need admin rights to run the install  ::)

Bernie, the Profiler installs OK with those files but seems unable to communicate with the G25 which is presumably linked to the problems installing the driver caused by the 'window station' issue.
I  might try getting it to work with my flight sim hardware - or maybe I should just use the keyboard :laugh:

No idea about W10 here...

Maybe there is something wrong with your USB drivers ::)
I had some USB problems when I installed the AMD usb drivers.
They were gone when I deinstalled them and used the W7 onboard drivers.

I am using W7, but one upon a time, I was installing my g27, and it did not install properly because I had plugged it in too soon possibly. Consequently, I uninstalled the Logitech software, deleted the Logitech folders that remained, and then uninstalled the drivers assigned to the USB ports. Then I started installing over again, and I was careful not to plug in the G27 before the install program told me.

 

I bit the bullet and did a Settings and Apps reset which seems to have solved the problem. Just have to get everything tweaked again and should be good to go ;DJ

 :rockon:

Very bad race for me ,a fight with the framerate,sometime droppinig to 30 fps,and my brake that, without explanation ,unbalance the car breaking at high speed.The last unbalancing(at the last lap) cost me the 4th position at advantage of Nilsson.
I don't remeber but at least 10 breaking with unbalancement,that mean on the green.

My apologies to the Ferrari i tangled with at the exit of T1 on lap 1, I could not see you on the outside, I did allow enough room in case you were there but I was drifting wide too and I guess it wasn't enough room.

Anyway, I was minding my own business with a handful of laps to go then disco. Oh well...

I had not practiced much for this one. I did a couple of laps before qualification. I made more mistakes than normal. So I enjoyed it more than normal once I finally put a good lap together. I am just happy that I was able to keep improving during the race, and that I was able to finish. Maybe I'll spend a few more tokens at the next race.
 
*Tough luck George

Congrats Dave, Bastian and Billy!

Well, downloaded the track & installed it late last night & went for a few laps.
Then ventured out on the only server that was running it to check [ok, so was for an 'alternative' bunch].  However, that running with John Hammonds in his Lotus really helped for tonight!

Also tried the Brabham for a few laps earlier today;  but was 2 seconds a lap slower - so stuck with the Fezza.

Qually was quite exciting.  Did try another setup that gave a fairly good time;  but blew the engine after 4 laps - so gave that a miss [although maybe that was due to a couple of missed gears?].

I think towards the end of the session,   Bastian had pipped me for pole by about 1/100th of a second or so.  Was glad actually when he then bettered that.   1/2 a second slower is less annoying than 0.01 :)



I daresay that both of us could have done without that :)  Although, as it turned out;  not a big problem :)

But it sure made it more interesting being placed at the back of the field & that did fire me up for the rest of the race.  Was convinced there was more damage;   but really did not want to waste a reset / especially with a stop & go;  at a pit entrance that I'd  never tried entering before & wasn't sure exactly where it was :)

Luckily for me;  most of the field ahead span off at some point;  so I was able to inherit 3rd.
But Bastian/George were way ahead;  I figured I would not see either of them again.   Bastian must have had some bad luck, followed by more misery.   George presumably did too & was no longer connected.  So managed to take both those positions too.

Tried to keep tabs on faster Bastian & take it easy for the last handful of laps. That worked out at least.

Congrats finishers & podium. Commiserations non-finishers.   Good going Billy for 3rd;  nice haul of points there.


Cheers all.
Dave.

I wasn't really faster. Run Qualifing with low fuel.

Well Deserved Victory Dave, but really bad luck for Mr. Cheeseman. Nice speed.
After the start you two made no mistakes, I guess.

Best Regards,
Bastian

Tested again with the same setup and the breaking was absolutely comfortable and precise.
The drop of FPS could be an explanation of the breaking problem during the race?
During the race seem that the point for the blocking was higher but,pressing slightly,the breaking was not enough.So the point for a correct breaking was really a point without range.

I was having a good race with only a couple of minor offs until with 9 laps to go the button assignments (though not the axes) on my G25 stopped responding and I was stuck in 6th gear. Fortunately I managed to keep going though losing 10 seconds per lap.
This has never happened before and continues the saga of my G25. After doing a W10 reset it seemed to be working perfectly allowing assignments from within GPL but the next time I fired up the axes were already assigned and the button assignments menu unresponsive.
I was eventually able to assign the buttons via the Logitech Profiler and by using the W7 compatibility setting. This seems to be a problem only with GPL as the wheel works perfectly with newer games such as Codemasters F1 and Grid series
Hopefully I'll be able to get this sorted before the season resumes after Christmas

Now i have understood why was so easy to overtake you.

Qually'd in p4 , could have been better, had all sectors purple on my last lap but unfortunate to find Walter blocking the road with the Honda .

The race turned into another disaster for me . Got off to a good start then after the 2 fezzas ? collided and the car in front ran wide (Maltini  ?) I found myself in 2nd place behind the flying Bastian disapearing rapidly into the distance , It didn't last long as first Cheeseman in the  Ferrari  swooped past on the straight followed a few laps later by the Brabham of Maltini who passed me just before the bridge , however I got a good run through the esses and approaching the next hairpin Maltini ran wide . I went by on the inside but then he turned in on me spinning me into the barrier .
After allowing everyone through I was now dead last , tried to do 10/10ths stuff to catch up but began making errors , then my race was over as the engine went pop requiring a s/r & pit in .

Was fortunate to finish 6th after passing Mike in his slowmobile 

Grats to the podiums and all finishers , great track for racing I thought . easy to drive but tricky to drive fast  :)

Well, that was a race to endure rather than enjoy, for me.  I'd done a bit of practice there during the week, and found the track to be very tricky at crucial points: namely, after the two fast sections, it was very difficult to stay on the track, due to hidden bumps / dips.  I started from 7th, slipped through the early carnage, and waited for the faster cars to come and get me.  Second lap (I think it was), sure enough I had a Brabham breathing down my neck.  On this track, there really are few places to pass if the car you're overtaking isn't compliant.  Rather than risk a collision, I didn't defend, but stayed on the racing line down into the under-bridge section, allowing the Brabham to slip down the inside.  I then took the correct line, only to collide with a second Brabham that had tried to tailgate through - overly cheeky, I felt!  Apologies to whomever that was - I knew you were there, but didn't feel there was a gap.  I'll look at the replay and submit my accident report tonight.  The rest of the race was pretty uneventful for me, except for spinning about 4 times.  Amazingly, I ended up 4th.

Sorry I missed this one.  We were out at a friends house and didn't get back before the start of the race  :(

Royal mail on top form as always so im still waiting for my wheel  :-[. after a read of the rules I had a cunning plan. its round five, so, I get 10 tokens to start season and just cross the line for 10 more.

I have lots of respect to those who only use keys! I couldn't do 500 yards.

Moderation published. Please take a look at the Court System (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/moderating/court) for how to submit reports in the right way ;)

Thanks for the very fair & comprehensive moderation Robert ( not bad for a Dutchman )  ;D

You're welcome. The comprehensive parts are from fellow (British) mods  ;D

Billy - a long winding road, but you got there eventually, right?!