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Title: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 01, 2015, 10:25:54 PM +0000
(http://cache.lego.com/e/dynamic/is/image/LEGO/60053?$main$)
Practice: 19:45 BST (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 ~ 30 Mins

Cars allowed: Group 5
Track: Red Bull Ring, Speilberg
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  OFF
Pit-stops: None required

Server: Simracing.org.uk E2H
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=501&theme=1)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another
non pack track occasionally)
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 01, 2015, 11:07:13 PM +0000
 :lol: that grafic


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 06, 2015, 04:55:26 PM +0000
Make your Christmas complete by donating generously to our cost's.

Subscription time again folks


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: Anty on December 08, 2015, 06:04:22 PM +0000
Gents, I am out for the remainder of the races for this year. I am extremely busy for the next few weeks till Christmas, then I am going away on a little holiday. Happy racing

Ant


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: BillThomas on December 09, 2015, 05:47:46 AM +0000
Make your Christmas complete by donating generously to our cost's.

Subscription time again folks

Thanks for eyes up Tony.  :rockon:


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 09, 2015, 08:58:09 AM +0000
Gents, I am out for the remainder of the races for this year. I am extremely busy for the next few weeks till Christmas, then I am going away on a little holiday. Happy racing

Ant
Have a great holiday Ant


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 09, 2015, 02:16:17 PM +0000
15 Minute upgrade this week, please make sure you have the upgrade done in time  :angel:


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: goldtop on December 09, 2015, 02:19:14 PM +0000
15 Minute upgrade this week, please make sure you have the upgrade done in time  :angel:


It's 3.1GB so that's more like an hour for me. I wonder if the dedi server tool will be updated too?


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 09, 2015, 03:18:44 PM +0000
Server is updated too. Can't do the real server yet as I don't have passwords for our steam account
Manged to do mine.

I really don't like this track, this is the least painfull version I could do, and I still really really don't like it
It doesn't drive like other versions I have used in the past perfectly well.
People will have to buy it as well. I am VERY happy to substitute "one we all know" eventhough it is a day's notice.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: BillThomas on December 09, 2015, 03:29:57 PM +0000
Server is updated too. Can't do the real server yet as I don't have passwords for our steam account
Manged to do mine.

I really don't like this track, this is the least painfull version I could do, and I still really really don't like it
It doesn't drive like other versions I have used in the past perfectly well.
People will have to buy it as well. I am VERY happy to substitute "one we all know" eventhough it is a day's notice.

Yes please, horrible track all those red and blue radii mask the real track making the turn in point had to gauge.  ????


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: Eck Simpson on December 09, 2015, 03:35:59 PM +0000
I'm always at odds with everyone on track likes/dislikes, not fussed with a change though, as its not gonna make a difference to my odds of finishing.. lol.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: goldtop on December 09, 2015, 03:43:01 PM +0000
Server is updated too. Can't do the real server yet as I don't have passwords for our steam account
Manged to do mine.

I really don't like this track, this is the least painfull version I could do, and I still really really don't like it
It doesn't drive like other versions I have used in the past perfectly well.
People will have to buy it as well. I am VERY happy to substitute "one we all know" eventhough it is a day's notice.

I like Ricard but I'm happy to change as long as it's a nice flowing track without any silly chicanes. Slovakiaring works well with the Gr5 cars but it's a sod to learn at short notice for anyone that's not raced there before.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Paul Ricard - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 09, 2015, 03:51:58 PM +0000
I wil make it Speilberg, we had a good race there last time, and people don't needd to buy Ricard.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 09, 2015, 04:11:30 PM +0000
I will make it Speilberg, but there seems to be no version of it in the LM2 list of known tracks.
We ran an early test race there I thought. I can't see it as Speilbergring, Ostereichring, A-1 Ring
we have run GTL and P&G events there, what do we call it? or has it somehow been deleted?
Can we add an entry for it?

Any of the above... Thanks


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 09, 2015, 04:20:49 PM +0000
Please Note: Change of track, this event will now be Red Bull Ring (Speilberg)
The event title will be changed when I can do it.



Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 09, 2015, 04:27:06 PM +0000
Bought track, practised track, posted on Leaderboard, hacked off.  >:(


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 09, 2015, 04:35:38 PM +0000
Well I would not be racing it, it's terrible. I will try to use it next year for something, maybe a different layout.
Apologies to anyone who has spent part of their family fortune buying the track.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: BillThomas on December 09, 2015, 05:06:22 PM +0000
Update has affected my steering - force to turn Wheel and/or Force FeedbacK! Makes car difficult to drive.  ::) ???Who else has tried upgrade. Any comments/advise?


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 09, 2015, 05:42:41 PM +0000
I did a couple of laps round Ricard, but noticed no difference,I will give it some more attention
EDIT: Done a few laps of SPielberg, and it feels the same to me.  ???


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: BillThomas on December 09, 2015, 06:16:42 PM +0000
I did a couple of laps round Ricard, but noticed no difference,I will give it some more attention
EDIT: Done a few laps of SPielberg, and it feels the same to me.  ???


Thanks Matt, must be me, the problem is only when the car is very slow and turning at full lock. Once I sped up problem disappeared, only had time for an exploratory lap after updating. It just didn't feel right need practice.  :hammer:


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: Timbo on December 10, 2015, 12:56:49 PM +0000
Update has affected my steering - force to turn Wheel and/or Force FeedbacK! Makes car difficult to drive.  ::) ???Who else has tried upgrade. Any comments/advise?

If you have a g27, there seems to be a temp fix here....
https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/09-12-2015-raceroom-has-been-updated.3581/page-4#post-43050

Set engine vibration to 0 and turn lateral force/vertical load to 10-20%


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: Timbo on December 10, 2015, 01:11:09 PM +0000
I should be able to join this race. I'm glad the track was switched. Not a big fan of Paul Dick.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: Eck Simpson on December 10, 2015, 09:17:42 PM +0000
I'm still not a fan of RBR/A1/Osterreich/Zeltweg/Spielberg (actually, when it was Osterreich/Zeltweg it was ace). I'm polar opposite to most, as ever.

Anyhoo, enough of that. I got to the end of a Group 5 race.. I don't care who won, filled the podium, I'm off to bask in my own glory... lol.

I made the mistake, of trying to race the Capri's that came back toward me. Ambitions and capabilities, all mixed up. Sorry, to whomever fell victim, to my arrow left on the grid.

Grats Reinhard, Tim and TM. Thanks again gents.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: BillThomas on December 11, 2015, 06:04:03 AM +0000
Update has affected my steering - force to turn Wheel and/or Force FeedbacK! Makes car difficult to drive.  ::) ???Who else has tried upgrade. Any comments/advise?

If you have a g27, there seems to be a temp fix here....
https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/09-12-2015-raceroom-has-been-updated.3581/page-4#post-43050

Set engine vibration to 0 and turn lateral force/vertical load to 10-20%

Thanks will make changes later.  ;D


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: picnic on December 11, 2015, 10:36:29 AM +0000
Really enjoyed my first outing in these G5 beasts last night. This is how I always imagined a powerful race car with big tyres would drive like. Lots of power oversteer but nearly always correctable. I think most incidents I had last night were braking too late and understeering off or turning too much and swapping ends.

Might have to free up Thursday evenings more often!


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: Timbo on December 11, 2015, 11:10:51 AM +0000
I had a good time also. It was great racing with Reinhard. It was cool seeing the contrast between the Zakspeed and the fabcar. I had the straight line speed in the fabcar, and Reinhard had me out-braked in every turn. We ran similar lap times until I got engine damage with 6 min left. Ultimately, it was Reinhard's consistency that won the race. He's a rock.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: phspok on December 11, 2015, 11:41:19 AM +0000
Good to have you guys with us.  8) The other cars in these historic series are not so insane as the Gr5
but even the lower powered ones seem to give some great racing.

Next week is the final event for season 2. Looks like Anty is otherwise engaged or he would also be
up there in the top 3. Next year, more of the same, with an occasional "guest car" event to spice it
up a bit.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: Berger R - 74 on December 11, 2015, 12:19:22 PM +0000
i had a very good race, i was always close behind tim, but was not able to overtake him, as it looks like he was a little faster in laptimes then me, but i did try to make not much little mistakes, which was extrem difficulty in this cars.
later he did get a "slow down" penalty after T1 i think and i was able to overtake and was able to hold lead then till finish, which was from lap to lap more difficulty, as the car was extremst difficulty in doing brake,
in beginning of race, i had only 1xtimes lift the trottle for not locking brake to much, but later i had to lift 2xtimes and  sometimes lift 3xtimes during one brake for corner, this was so difficulty and nearly not possible to have exactly brake points, and doing brake in a line was difficulty too, car was always try to get right or left side during brake.

-have other people same problems in brake, or is this only me??-

in last laps the car did so much understeer in the middle fast corners and like i did write, extrem hard to brake, that i had to concentrate 100% on limit, 30min. in this cars is same hard as 60min. in GT3 cars for sure.
but i like this cars (the capri most).

congrats all finisher

servus


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: Timbo on December 11, 2015, 12:57:35 PM +0000

-have other people same problems in brake, or is this only me??-

Oh yes, definitely. I was fighting with the brakes from the start. In practice, I realized I could control my line better under braking with the brake bias more towards the rear. But the rear wheels would lock up very easily and I would end up not slowing down enough. So I opted to go with my bias more towards the front. This made me slow down better, but the car would violently shoot left or right. This is what caused my slow down penalty. I think I should have stayed with the brake bias towards the rear and maybe reduced the brake pressure a little. Those cars definitely require a sensitive touch on the brake and throttle.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: BillThomas on December 11, 2015, 05:00:53 PM +0000
Yes, I noticed I had started to overshoot corners and need to brake earlier to negotiate corners. Only found out after race that brake wear has now been implemented.

Pleased with PB in qualifying but didn't allow enough for cold tyres on the first lap and had to fight to keep car pointing in the right direction on the gravel, other than that entertaining night.


Title: Re: RRE Season 2 Race Room Historics - Speilberg - Dec 10
Post by: goldtop on December 11, 2015, 05:16:35 PM +0000
My usual carp start meant I had to tootle around the outside of T1 loosing time which I never managed to regain all race  ::) Had some fun trying to chase down Tim and Reinhard later on but having made a little ground I ran wide and had a sd penalty undoing all my work  :(

I have to brake very early in these cars to stand any chance of being in control by the time I turn in. The Fabcar is a great drive but with so much weight in the back you have to give it some respect under braking. When you get it right it is very rewarding, get it wrong and it costs a lot of time.