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Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Jaguar D-Type (1955 version only) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55), Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s), AC Ace Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ac_ace)

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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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Should be able to do this one!!!!! woooohoooooo  ;D
A rare week at home.

I didn't know that a D-Type sounded and handled like a Leyland Truck!

LOL, the Aston should sound like a tractor  ::)

The bloke driving the D-Type must have a neck like a giraffe!  I can see too much bonnet.

You can adjust the seat position, up/down, forward/backward.

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In the example above the default keys have been replaced with Q,E,W,S as I prefer the arrow keys for navigating the pit stop board.

It's donation time again folk's. Please donate what you can  :thumbup1:

Should be joining you guys for this race after a weekend at Brands Hatch watching historics ..................and getting very sunburnt!!.

A weekend spent with fellow GPL simracers, watching some classic cars on an iconic circuit...and just a little beer ::)............perfect.

I am now in rehab and hope to be fit ( although maybe not fully competent) for this evening.

Enjoy the D type Clive, I found the best way to stop that car was to use the scenery or a convenient tree!!

Glad you had a good time Clive. I know you were responsible for setting that meet up. Did the cup presentation go ok?

Still far from competitive with a PB 1:39.8 in the AC, but it's fun and I want/have to save the Jag and the DB1 for later  ::)

See you tonight.

Just make sure that you keep Mable out of our pits!  We haven't had decent job out of the lad she took a shine to since the last time.  He refuses to change wheels any more because it involves bending down.  He insists on locking himself in the garage on his own before he dares to move away from the wall!

I questioned Mable about your lad and she claims that he is over reacting:-

 "she only gave him a motherly hug, and how was she to know that he was unable to breathe when clamped cuddled against her chest, causing him to pass out ??
 The mouth to mouth resucitation was an instinctive response that she felt obliged to administer as a ( partially ) trained first aider and she had only undone his belt and loosened his undergarments to ease his breathing. It greatly disappointed her that he ran away screaming as soon as he regained conciousness, as she had hoped to comfort him a little more"

Yes thanks Tony, all went really well.
 Malcolm Shaw  ( Joe's father ) and partner presented the trophy to Robert Fleurk ( from Holland) overlooking Surtees Bend. Should be some pictures of the assembled miscreants coming up on UKGPL quite soon.

Hi Kurt,

I know naff all about these cars so what should I be saving the Jag for?

Kurt must fancy his chances in it for one of the two remaining fixtures in this series.

I seem to remember that the Jag has quite a good top speed.....   ::)

Merc seems quickest to me.   :P

For what it is worth Clive, my impressions of these cars...........

The Merc is solid and predictable and although it feels kind of heavy is deceptively quick if you can maintain the momentum
The Healey lacks a bit on top speed but handles quite well
The D type......hmmm..... I think I was seduced by the history of its real life ancestry. I cannot squeeze out anything like the quoted top speed, the brake pads appear to be made from discarded corn flake cartons and I have to drift the car through corners to maintain any speed and compensate for the widely spaced ratios in the 4 speed box. The drifting does not extend tire life! Other than that it's a fantastic car   ::)
The DBR1 works well for me on flowing circuits, but strangely I cannot hook it up at Zandvoort  :-\
The Ace is a little unknown as I have only driven it once but for me it falls somewhere between the Merc and the Healey.

I trust that info has made your decision much clearer  :wacko: :whistling:

The 55-version of the D-Type was fast at Grenzlandring last year  8)

Thanks Clive n Kurt.

Over the first six laps all I could hear was Matt's engine.

After I pranged it I was much happier but he dropped back to give me more agro at the end.   :P

Results posted but replay is being a bit difficult.

I have my replay Tony if it's any use?

I can stick it on dropbox and provide a link.

Race report to follow tomorrow.

TTFN
John.

Grats to those Healeys on the podium. I was hoping to spoil their dominance and was a little surprised to get onto pole, even though the Merc is probably a faster car, given the alien DNA around me.

Having spent the weekend at Brands Hatch getting ( very ) sunburnt, not much sleep, too much beer and generally having a great time I had not practiced for this race.
I know the track from GPL and I opted for the Merc as I find it a very stable car and frankly I could not find the energy to work on the Healey and get it up to speed. Practice and qualli taught me that it would take 2 laps to bring the tyres up to temp, and I should have been more careful in the opening laps. Instead I tried to stay on Ziu's tail who had jumped me at the start, and fend off an eager Geoffers and the result was just dropping a wheel onto the grass at the end of the first lap which fired me across the track and into the fence.
That spoilt any chance of champagne I thought  :-\ But still 25 laps to go so I set off again at the tail of the field cursing under my breath.

The rest of the race was fun as I eased my way through the field. The big problem at Zandvoort is the lack of overtaking opportunities and there were some fun battles with Matt and oldgeezer trying to engineer an opening. By the time I had reached the dizzy heights of 4th place, and I could actually see Erling at times, my tyres were beginning to protest and I had to adapt my braking and driving to keep the car on track, A couple of minor excursions lost ground on ( and any chance of catching )  Erling and I cruised the last few laps and accepted an undeserved 4th.

Mostly enjoyed that  :) had fun trying to get past Clive's mobile german roadblock in the 1st few laps
Then had a few wobblies as the tyres went off. Slowed on the straight to let EC past as I was plainly getting
in his way  :angel: then had a disappointing last few laps after an incident where I "dropped back"
Have to check the replay, but probably will be putting in an incident report.  :(

Thanks John but replay will be available tonight.

So was Matt's Aston as noisey for everyone else?

This is a new install so there could be a setting that isn't set yet.

Yep

Yep, I was playing baby metal - "gimme chocolate" on the in car stereo for the opening laps  ::)

So how do I shut him up?   ::)

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Reduce "other car volume"

A somewhat disappointing race for me yesterday.

Picked the Healey here, as it worked well for me last year.  Setup experimentations and countless practice laps shaved 1 sec off my pb of last year. Getting below 1:35 was not easy for me, as I was already straining to get last year's results.  Compared to last year's laptimes, things were looking promising, but alas, with this year's crowd, it just wasn't good enough.

Still struggling to get off the line, and true to form, I lost two places before T1, when both Clive L & Matt slipped in front. That was the start of a fair few frustrating laps.  Could lap faster than the two gents, but couldn't get past. As Clive (Evil) points out, the only real place to overtake is the straight, and here my Healey was outclassed by both the Merc & Aston.

As I couldn't get away, behind me Tony was getting up close and personal.  Trying to prevent him doing a late brake stunt, while at the same time making sure I didn't rearend the two gents in front was not exactly easy.  Finally Clive L rolled his Merc.  That upped the pace a bit for Matt & me, immediately giving me some air down to Tony.  Continued pressuring Matt over a few laps more, until he overshot at T1, sliding up onto the bank.  Finally a clear track ahead and able to put a little distance between myself and the cars behind.

Pit board showed 12 secs to the 2nd place car, but later that lap, a dustcloud and a rejoining Geoffers meant that gap was down to nothing.  Tried to stay with him, but at one point put half a rear tyre on the edge of the track, and promptly skidded off.  Lost 4-5 secs to Geoffers, which I was never able to regain, and thus finished 3rd.

Not right to be disappointed with 3rd, given the competition here, but after the all preparation before this race, it still feels like a bit of a letdown.  Grats to Ziu & Geoffers and all who finished, and thanks to Tony for organising.

Cheers,
Erling

But then I won't hear what the rest of you are up to.   :(

I m happy for win but i dont happy for race because i wanted battle  with Geoffers until the last lap.

Qualy good i was fast on the corners but Clive with his mercedes eats all my advantage on the start straight, it mean that Clive did a great lap, Grats Evil !!!! But honestly i was watching Geoffers because i needed to start on first line for win the race, i did ! And i passed clive on the start i known that Mercedes not culd keep a great pace but was difficult to pass it on the straight.

Me and Geoffers ? We were flying i think also over Healey limit not because lap time but we were as a hammer he passed me on the straight, a great overtake, yeah !!!!! He take the external line on the Tarzan corner. After I put under pressure him and he mistake and get spin but i wanted just stay very closed to him on the last corner for try pass him on the start straight.

After i controlled and i slow down at 10 laps to go.

Grats all !!!!!

For me that was a really enjoyable race. Merc's v Healey's was a challenging combo with the Healey's able to take the twisties better and the Merc faster on the long straights. My race was almost a constant chase with Roger, eClive, Matt and Bob. So many moments that I cannot remember in which order they occured. I did have some hairy off track moments too which undid a load of earlier work and I had to chase down folk all over again. Very happy with the 5th place and the championship is set up nicely with only two races left to go.

Ta, yes the GTL D-Type is a strange beast.  The moders obviously don't accept that one of the great advantages that it had over the Ferraris of the day was its use of disc brakes!  Very handy for stopping at the end of the Mulsanne.

Replay now posted. Apologies for the delay.  :nono:

Results (https://googledrive.com/host/0BzUpS2smyYQ_emhRMXJjcUNibDA?ltmpl/index.html)

 8)

Cheers Kurt  :thumbup1:

Wow I had the most overtakes  :o  Told you I had a cracking race ;D

Well, a lonely race for me this time. I Don't really like the Ace and I don't like Zandvoort much either so this seemed an ideal opportunity to dispense with both at the same time. I was faster in some of the other cars I still had available but decided to keep them for a more suitable track. The qualifying lap times confirmed I had bought a knife to a gunfight but hoped that I might make some places due to attrition but it wasn't to be.

Got a great start off the line, I wish I could be as alert all the time, picked up a place on the run down to T1, stayed wide through the turn, and headed off to the left kink into turn 3. It was at this point it all went pear shaped as I realised I was carrying far too much speed given the amount of cars around me so dived for the outside before I rear ended someone, put 2 wheels off the track and spun into the fence.  :oops:

Rejoined dead last. Was able to overtake Eifelblitz when he had a moment and a few laps later caught and passed Bill but the main pack was extending their lead all the time and I completely lost touch over the following laps.. Apart from lapping Bill and Eifelblitz I didn't see another car until 2 laps from home when Zui appeared in my mirrors, I let him past on the final turn and continued on my way, a long way behind 9th place and well ahead of 11th. Tyres were becoming an issue towards the end of the race and I overshot a few corners but kept it on the tarmac.

Congrats to the Podium, was very impressed how close the field actually was at the end with only the 3 Ace's being left well behind.

Thanks all for the race, it was a blast as always.

TTFN
John.

ACE wasn't competitive here. For me the race was divided into 3 phases:

Phase 1: after I had a moment during lap 1, I dropped to last place behind Jeep and Bill. Could catch Bill after some laps but was unable to pass through the corner and we had exactly the same speed on the straight. Nice and clean battle. Then Bill made a mistake and I was able to pass.
 
Phase 2: after I passed Bill I had a calm race at the back of the pack with only some minor offs and letting the leaders past.

Phase 3: during the second half of the race I had a major off, hitting the bridge, and damaged my suspension. Was able to go on but at a far slower pace and with more and more offs. Luckily I could reach the chequered flag  ::) 8)

Thanks to all involved for organizing - cu next week.

Thanks Kurt.

And congratulations to Ziu, Geoffers and Coyote

Hi apologies to Matt for prob ruining your race replay time 2240, you swerved to avoid Oldgeezer and i went for the gap, you came back in and i took you out, have replied to incident report and except i was at fault.
 

Yeh silly mistake!  ::) Normally changed up to 4th between Panorama & Pulleveld, but that lap I didn't & when I lifted slightly into the corner it turned in more sharply than I expected & I went up the inside kerb putting the car out of shape & I couldn't recover it. Otherwise it was a good race on a difficult track & I had to drive hard right to the end to with Erling close behind.

Congrats to Ziu & Erling (seem to be saying that a lot recently!)  :clap: :clap:

Won't be around next week as I'm at the Le Mans Classic, so cya all at Karlskoga in 2 weeks.  :thumbup1:

That was the best race of the season as far as fun factor for me, that is until about lap 23.
Hardly a time when I didn't have someone in sight or just ahead of me and the same thing in my mirror. Roger, Tony,Matt and myself were always nose to tail in some kind of order.  Passed and repassed each other what seemed like almost every lap or so.  Austin's & Aston better in the curvies and the Merc coming back on the straights.  Finally got 5th from Matt after he went wide and settled in to hold them off.  Then on L23 my rear tires were about gone and I lost focus and overdrove a corner and went into the weeds.  As I came back on the track they arrived and we had major dodgem/wreck.  My fault for sure!!!  I motored up the track and gave Roger and Tony their places back.  In the replay I saw that Matt had got the worst of it.  I filed a incident report and will take Matt's position and give him mine if they want to do it that way. 
Next up the dreaded by me F1 cars, just going to try and finish a race in one of them.......

Bob M.

Got this response on NoGrip...............

Open .aud file and scroll down till those lines :
Quote:
// ENGINE VOLUME MIX

playerEngineVolumeMinimum=0.5
playerEngineVolumeThrottleFraction=0.3
playerEngineVolumeRevFraction=0.2

non-playerEngineVolumeMinimum=0.2
non-playerEngineVolumeThrottleFraction=0.2
non-playerEngineVolumeRevFraction=0.6
If other cars volume is set too high for you then reduce "non-playerEngine" lines.
The rules are in general :
playerEngineVolumeMinimum > non-playerEngineVolumeMinimum

playerEngineVolumeThrottleFraction > non-playerEngineVolumeThrottleFraction

PlayerEngineVolumeRevFraction < non-playerEngineVolumeRevFraction

Not tried it yet.

If this is a generic file then it will only do what Tony suggested anyway.

Another bloke suggested getting at the .wav files with an audio editor, which sounds more like what I had in mind.  
Suppose I could substitute one of the other engines in the Aston.  Since I don't know what it is supposed to sound like it hardly matters.   ;D

Why not just turn the 'Other car volume' setting down a bit ?

Maybe you can find a compromise where you can still hear the other cars (and thus what they're up to), and hear your own at the same time.

Don't know if it impacts your replays too, but if it does, you could experiment with the settings, checking the result via the default in-car view of your replay from Zandvoort.

Cheers,
Erling

Cheers but I really want to hear what you lot are up to.  I might stop my turning in on you!   ::)

I have found that the .aud files are specific to each car so in Aston-Martin_DBR_V025.aud I have halved the non-player bits thus:-

// ENGINE VOLUME MIX

playerEngineVolumeMinimum=0.4
playerEngineVolumeThrottleFraction=0.7
playerEngineVolumeRevFraction=0.5

non-playerEngineVolumeMinimum=0.5  (Was 0.9)
non-playerEngineVolumeThrottleFraction=0.5  (Was 0.9)
non-playerEngineVolumeRevFraction=0.4  (Was 0.8)

We shall see what we get.   ;D

I had similar issues when I started crashing around in GTL. The engine sound of "other cars" was drowning out the engine noise of my own chariot, so I was either delaying an upshift and getting swamped off the grid, or not making a downshift at the right time into a corner and losing either engine braking or acceleration through the apex. Also as Clive L has experienced, trying to work out where the rest of you guys are was almost impossible!!

However I did not resort to the tweaking of software values like Clive L is proposing ( can you just imagine the number of posts that would generate, as I tried to recover my PC to working condition??!!).

I did much as Erling suggests and simply adjusted the sliders in the game audio area until I could just hear the opposition, but my engine sound was dominant. I seem to recall that I lowered the volume of my own car too, until I was happy with the audio input to my allocated racing brain cell.  ;) 

LOL

This would also be my preferred solition if the Aston wasn't three times as loud as everything else!  If I adjust the sould volume of all other cars, so that the Aston is right, then all the rest will be in stealth mode!