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Title: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on December 25, 2015, 12:03:46 AM +0000
(http://rejsa.nu/im/_ringen/432-new_2010-01-31-macau19911.jpg)
Practice: 19:45 BST (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 ~ 30 Mins

Cars allowed: DTM92
Track: Macau
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  OFF
Pit-stops: None required

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Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=501&theme=1)

Notes:
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rules about in-game chat messages.
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Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 29, 2015, 04:24:39 PM +0000
I won't be available for this'n. Have fun Guy's.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on December 29, 2015, 07:29:00 PM +0000
Chortle, shame. Oh just in case anyone had doubts, I WILL be using this track at least twice this year  ::)
The onyl really didgy bit is the crazy tight right hander half way round. At first I thought it was going to be impossible to do
but I increased the steering lock to 400/30 and practiced it a few times,and although you have to almost stop, it can be done
quit easily once you get the hang of it. I also intend to use Paul RIcard for at least one event, if I can figure out a layout
that suits.

Tracks that I know we will be using so far, are:

American Track Pack
Euro Track pack
Suzuka
Bathurst
Macau
Paul Ricard
SalzburgRing
EDIT: Spa
Nordschleife (when it is resleased)

Cars will be:
DTM92
Group5
Touring Classics
BMW M1 Procar

Maybe the Audi quatro, particularly if it gets any friends in the same class in future.



Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on December 30, 2015, 07:45:25 AM +0000
No Spa this time Matt?

Do not have all the mentioned tracks (yet), but will race the ones i have probably.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on December 30, 2015, 12:06:46 PM +0000
Yep. forgot Spa....  ::) and of course the Green Hell, when they finish planting all the trees.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: goldtop on December 31, 2015, 01:22:06 PM +0000
Ross at Raceconnect has very kindly posted this up for us.

http://www.raceconnect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=390&t=6490

RC will be running an historic series of their own on Tuesdays commencing February so hopefully we'll have a few of us join them for that too. I'll remind you all nearer the time but you can see what's planned here.....

http://www.raceconnect.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1602&Itemid=1


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Hotkeys on January 05, 2016, 08:02:03 PM +0000
I just had a go in the Mercedes, and what a great city track Macau is  :clap: :clap:

I'm 5 secs from Anty's laptime on the leaderboard, but that's pretty normal I'm afraid  ;D


Stig


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Truetom on January 06, 2016, 01:16:55 PM +0000
I'm so scared slow on this track  ;D


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 06, 2016, 01:30:04 PM +0000
LOL. I think this track is as much about knowing it as pure skill  ;D

I have just been on line with TT and I was a few seconds faster. It is not often I get the chance to say that
let me just do it again "I was a few seconds faster than TT"
There, got that out of my system  8)

I have run here before several times in different sims, so sort of know the layout, though the hairpin right half way round
takes a lot of control to not overdo it. I have to take it VERY slowly and be very accurate about when to turn or
I bash the body. Managed a 2:33 just then, with a bit more tidyness I could take a couple of seconds off, in a race
situation the trick here IMHO is to remain calm and not overdrive. It is like Green Hell, a very different track to the normal
so takes a different approach, It is a wild roller coaster ride, and when you manage to get a good flow going it is great fun.  :laugh:
For the setup I make sure I have plenty of rear grip and front brake bias, or I just swap ends in the tight corners.
Also. I found the Audi to be very hard work here, the other cars are easier, though the Opel is a bit long for the hairpin
it can get round.

I do hope we get a few entries, as being a long circuit, it is a game of gap management, which is cool, but chasing someone when you
keep getting glimpses of them at the next corner is a great rush.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Truetom on January 06, 2016, 02:13:09 PM +0000
I have just been on line with TT and I was a few seconds faster. It is not often I get the chance to say that
let me just do it again "I was a few seconds faster than TT"
There, got that out of my system  8)

 :P
Still learning RRE and I think it's not so much learning it but breaking out the GTR2 habits (how's that in grammar sense? ;) ). Setting the car is different, when I set it to turn in at all it's very unstable in fast turns so I don0t expect to last more than a few laps.  :D

EDITby MOD: "breaking out of the GTR2 habits"  :angel:


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Geoffers on January 06, 2016, 03:22:49 PM +0000
Still learning RRE and I think it's not so much learning it but breaking out the GTR2 habits (how's that in grammar sense? ;) ). Setting the car is different, when I set it to turn in at all it's very unstable in fast turns so I dont expect to last more than a few laps.  :D

The same here, having raced GTL & P&G for so long it is difficult to get out of the habit of trying to slide the cars through the turns & steering with the throttle. These cars don't really respond to that. I constantly seem to be changing the steering settings, particularly at this track where I need quite a high ratio & sensitivity otherwise I don't seem to have enough lock to get around that damned hairpin.

Best I have managed so far is 2.32 in the Merc, tried the Audi too but it seems far too cumbersome for this track.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Eck Simpson on January 06, 2016, 03:39:15 PM +0000
I gave up trying to get any of them round Melco, I failed every time. Always ended in a three point turn. I'll renege on this combo, for fear of the mayhem I'd cause.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: goldtop on January 06, 2016, 06:21:23 PM +0000
Wasn't sure if I could make this one so held off buying Macau but now turns out I can't make it anyway. More drummer auditions  ::)


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 06, 2016, 11:03:27 PM +0000
I have ti run 400/30 steering to get round the hairpin with confidence
I have to go in slow, and turn to follow the skid marks, maybe slightly later
but once I have it, i can get round every time.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: BillThomas on January 07, 2016, 05:47:26 AM +0000
I gave up trying to get any of them round Melco, I failed every time. Always ended in a three point turn. I'll renege on this combo, for fear of the mayhem I'd cause.

Same here, managed to eventually complete a lap with one very battered wreck!


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: mr_belowski on January 07, 2016, 09:19:53 AM +0000
I love the track, it's a complete basket case.

The hairpin isn't too bad once you get the hang of it. My advice is to turn in late - later than seems sensible - and make sure you run with a decent amount of steering lock


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Anty on January 07, 2016, 04:42:22 PM +0000
Hey

This track is difficult, don't think I can do those laps all the time. Mr Berger will probably nail it every lap..

Ok have fun

Ant


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 07, 2016, 04:59:52 PM +0000
The track is not for wimps that's for sure, as Mr B says, it's nuts


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Berger R - 74 on January 07, 2016, 07:26:55 PM +0000
hi anty,

i do not make this race, as i have not this track, and will not buy for 5euro for only 1 race, i do not like this track in past races i did, to difficulty for me, same as nordschleife, practise intensive this track is.

i do start this series next week in spa (if i remember correct).

servus


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Hotkeys on January 07, 2016, 08:41:13 PM +0000
Still more online problems ...... argh ..... game froze completely, just as quali was over.

To be honest I'm very close to giving up on RRE.

Stig


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 07, 2016, 09:13:54 PM +0000
Wel I got dropped from a race once, possibly because I was still out on the track at end of qual, as has happened
to at least one other person. You were inthe pits I think? were you off track or still "in the pits" Don't know if that
bug is still init, but I always ask people to leave the track before end of Qual.

For me, was a corker of a race, very intense, at first was tyring to hang on to Jim's bumper, then was trying to keep Tom
from catching, he mosty was towards the end  :o my frontys were getting very worn, probably should have not been so
safe with the setup. Good race for those whow were in it, great shame many stayed away, not everyone's fave track I know
but was a great race.  ;D

Results Posted


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Geoffers on January 07, 2016, 09:26:16 PM +0000
Whats this with it finishing the race before everyone had crossed the line!  ???

I made a mess of the hairpin on the last lap & had to 3-point turn it to sort it out, just got going again & 'race over', couldn't it wait for me to finish?

On a better note, I did enjoy the race although I'm still not happy with my steering settings, was losing heaps of time at the hairpin.

Anyway, congrats to the podium, cya at Spa.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Anty on January 07, 2016, 09:31:16 PM +0000
Hi Gents

Thanx for allowing me to race with you guys.. I always appreciate it.

I don't like this track at all. I see the leaderboards and wonder how some of these guys get 2:25's or even 2:26's. I like monty carlo.. But when I mentioned it on the S3 forum i got shot down. Sometimes tight tracks mix it up a little. The day before yesterday my pc was broken. I had to do a format, something when wrong when I loaded my new screen drivers, anyway not a stress.

Jim got a good start and jumped me in turn 1, but thank goodness I got him back quick. Then I tried to just build a lead.

Hey Mr Berger
Yip we missed you tonight. But yes see you nect week.. Have fun

Cheers Gents
Ant


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 07, 2016, 09:51:59 PM +0000
Was half expecting TIm and Pete to come along for this one, as they had posted on the leaderboard?


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 08, 2016, 10:26:21 AM +0000
I am intending to run Macau and Nordschliefe occasionally this year. Being very different than "normal" tracks they are
IMHO a good variation in the season. I won't be running them every month, but probably once every 3 months.
So if you want to buy them (for the price of fish chips and peas) then you will get to use them
There is always disagreement about these "unusual" tracks, particularly Nordschleife, some warm to the challenge
some hate the lenght or the time it takes to learn them. I love them, though I hardly every finish a race at Nords
I do enjoy the experience.

One of the frustrating things for me as series organiser is the lack of choice of tracks compared to GTR2/GTL
There is bound to be a lot of repeats here. I try to vary it a bit, but some cars just don't suit some tracks
Group5 at Macau would be insane, whereas they work quite well at Spa and Suzuka. If there were more tracks
I would be less inclined to use tracks that some dislike, but I have to use all available ones sometime to keep things
from going stale.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Truetom on January 08, 2016, 11:24:19 AM +0000
Only just managed to drive around the track by the time the race ended. Saw as soon as I was pushing I started to run into walls. I don't have the feeling like I'd be faster woth more practice like I did in GTR2, was a bit strange. This really seems an inferior game. That said, I like it better than AC and that seems strange to me as well.

Might be my old bones, but I feel the quality of the racing sims is declining...  :-\  Looks better, feels worse.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 08, 2016, 12:02:48 PM +0000
The race end delay is a server thing. You have to set the race finish to a time after the 1st place crosses the line
longest time is 120 secs, shortest is 30. When I have set 120 in the past, people would leave the server before the 120 secs, and it
screws up the results so I set it to 100 secs at the moment.

I am undecided about the "feel" of this, if I do some GTL or P&G it feels ok, when I do this it mostly feels more involving
some of the cars don't feel right to me, particularly if you give them lots of front grip, the back wanders around
unrealistically. same thing happens in GTR2/GTL with the 911 and others IMHO they can feel good, but they sort of wander around
as if the steering is loose. The Nissan in the Touring Classics seems to be on castors, and takes some getting used to.
Mostly I like this though, the racing is very good, so I am happy. I don't actually care too much
about eye candy, though the graphics and particularly the sound in this are really absorbing, one thing I do very much like about
this compared to other modern sims is that I can run it on my old Core2Duo at low res and it is smooth as silk
If I try to run PCars or AC it's a slide show. Everything runs ok on my i5 box, but I am not at that location for racing much.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Anty on January 09, 2016, 04:05:20 AM +0000
Hey Martin

Shanghai is also a very nice track, The group 5's are awesome around there..

Ant


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: goldtop on January 09, 2016, 10:50:25 AM +0000
Hey Martin

Shanghai is also a very nice track, The group 5's are awesome around there..

Ant

+1

It almost made it into our Sunday night schedule as it's one of the rounds for the WEC but I wanted to keep costs down for the first season.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: phspok on January 09, 2016, 11:20:33 AM +0000
Thanks Anty, I will check it out. I have posted the next 8 races, so it may slip in for the next batch in March.


Title: Re: RRE Season 3 (2016) Race Room Historics Series - Macau - Jan 7
Post by: Anty on January 09, 2016, 01:17:29 PM +0000
Yes..  :scooter: :fencing: