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This race will be a rolling start following a formation lap and the procedure is as follows:

*It will be the pole sitter's responsibility to complete the first lap at a pace that allows the rest of the grid to follow comfortably
*There should be no overtaking or hard accelerating/braking
*Drivers should avoid getting too far behind or too close to the driver in front
*Approximately 20 seconds before crossing the start line the pole sitter should slow down to a speed of no more than 50mph (80km/h)
*Each following driver shall close up directly behind the driver in front also maintaining a speed of no more than 50mph (80km/h)
*The pole sitter should maintain that speed until they cross the start line and then accelerate away to start the race (lap2)
*Each following driver should only accelerate when the driver directly ahead does (they do not have to wait until crossing the start line)
*No overtaking is allowed before crossing the start line at the completion of the formation lap


Practice: 20:00 BST (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ 60 Minutes

Cars allowed: This is a multiclass race
P2 Prototype Class "Any car from P2 Prototype class"
GTR3 Class "Any car from GTR3 class"

Track: Sonoma Sprint
Time of Day Setting: Afternoon
Weather: Dry

Start: Manual rolling start with formation lap
Tyre wear: x2
Fuel consumption:  x2
Pit-stops: Minimum 1 stop required

Server: Simracing.org.uk
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=531)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another non pack track occasionally)
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.

Just seeing what was coming on sunday...

Well, new physics for the CDP and the GTR3 cars which should make it interesting. Might even be able to include some LMP2s if all goes well  :)

Those nice people at Raceroom have now given us some more cars to play with in the new P2 prototype class which I'll be including for the remaining races of this series :)

The Chevy Daytona is now joined by the Radical SR9 Judd, Radical SR9 AER and the fictional DMD P21 and Mistral M531.

I've done some testing and I'm happy that the group is well balanced, although this could vary slightly between tracks. Please note that the fuel usage and fuel tank capacity has changed for the Chevy Daytona so make sure you do some testing to decide your strategy  :devil:

The GTR3 class is unaffected by these changes. (Edit) Please note that because of the physics update your old setups won't work. You'll need to reset them to default in the garage and start again

Race announcements have been amended.

Gents

AWESOME..!!! This game has become extremely cool. What a pleasure. I test the P2 cars this morning and with my wheel it's really become something intense. The feedback and the sound is stunning. I got the car really setup nicely, but going around this high speed track without making a mistake is going to be tricky.

I hope this game gets loads more people to it. If only they knew.

I am going to take a P2 car swap. Is that cool GT?

Also there is no practice server. I was hoping they gave us the option to use different fuel and tyre aggression in off line mode, But I am sure it will come

Enjoy
Ant

There was a practice server, but being as I am now officially senile  ::)
I set it to Hungaroring....
I have set it to Sonomo Sprint now, with (I hope) the correct cars. Pleae test.

Doh!, Always thought the Radical cars available were the their normal ones, not the old LMP2 car. Interesting how you have two different engine configs available in the RAdical and the the two made up cars.

Will probably switch to the LMP2s but not had chance to try them out.

Checked practice server and all appears well, thanks Matt  :)


Uber cool Ant   8) There is no penalty for changing cars or classes in this series.


Yep, both versions of the Radical competed in LM series events....

http://www.supercars.net/cars/3844.html

The Radicals and the fictional cars are great drives but the Chevy Daytona has more grunt. I like what they've done to the Daytona, it's more difficult to drive than before and feels a lot more truck like.

Also don't forget the newly revamped GT3 cars which now drive and feel even better than they did before and have been joined by the P4/5 Competizione  :wub:

Now all we need is for us to start getting decent turnouts for these races.

have 10.04. - Spa - noted....    ;D

Will be 60 min race ....???   :angel:    !!! Please !!!

On business travels since this morning until Friday evening... would love to spend all Saturday practising    ::)

Hmm.. alots changed in the patch. Not sure i'm confdent to take an LMP especially round Sonoma, FFb feels different. Been doing some races there in pCARS but not a big fan of the place, especially the first RHer.


Wheres this FFB monitor? cant see any reference in the FFB menu or key options.

Hi..
You need to select the secondary controler and select a key to pop the window... I used the letter F... for ffb... 

Yes Oscar, 60 minutes races for these events except for the Aquila series which is 40 minutes.

FFB has taken a big step forwards with this update imo but it does take some tweaking to get it right. Each wheel will be different so it's not much use posting settings but there are some good pointers on the Sector3 forums that can help. In the steering settings there is now a separate FFB multiplier which you can set to remember the strength for each car which is very useful.

Hmm, your right, the DP is alot nicer to drive compared to the first Spa race we used them. Now i'm not sure what to drive!

I have noticed you cant adjust the fuel of the other LMP2 cars though when practising.

I'd almost say we have too many cars available, certainly dont need two classes? just suggesting :-\

I think the 2 classes adds an extra dimension to the racing even without big grids but we'll see how it goes. Maybe a P2 series could replace the Aquila for next season.

Hey Gents

Sorry Larry I came up to you so quickly that We touched. Was trying to catch GT.

These cars are very nice, but in multiclass I think they need bigger/ longer tracks. The smaller tracks are ok if we run them only, but for the multiclass when your racing quickly and get to a back marker, your constantly in a corner, that tapping someone is inevitable.

I also made a bad choice in one of my setup changes, thought it would work but didn't, took me backwards, also started lagging and had to rejoin the server which put me back. John what happened to you? You where behind me and the next minute you where gone. Great to see you here.

Ant

Disappointing turnout again but thanks to those who made the effort, especially Mark for switching to the GT3 car just before quali so that Larry had someone to race with.

I'm now debating scrapping the remaining events in the multiclass series in favour of single class or even some spec races. Your thoughts please.

I must say my enthusiasm for organising these events and even for racing here lately is declining. With the exception of the ever popular Monday GTL events this place is turning into a desert  tumbleweed

It's the same old story....many of our driver base have moved on and it is proving difficult to attract new drivers in the quantity and quality that makes it worth the effort. Promoting is difficult when the Sector 3 league forum is swamped with a few leagues who dominate the postings with pre/post race chat and I've given up with No Grip as there seems to be zero interest in Raceroom there.

I had to add some stuff for the results, hopefully it is close enough? e.g it didn't know about the Radicals, but
I could select sr9 though we don't have an entry in the system for the different engines.
I am away in Brum, so I can't see the tyre makes either.

As far as numbers go, I have learned to be a bit circumspect about it. The GTL attendance was also very low
a couple of years ago. Tony persevered and partly by running even more wacky mods, and partly through generating
interest from the GPL clan he is now enjoying large grids, but these things are very seasonal whatever the sim in question.

In P&G I was getting grids of more than 20 regularly when P&G V3 was released, though that fell off to single figures

The reason I am continuing to do the Thursday historics is because this is a relatively recent sim that is still being developed
and if I don't keep it going then I have no chance of making a success of it. If we are still only getting a half dozen people
at the end of the year, then I will probably pack it in, but I will be putting on events for at least the rest of this year.
It is a hard but true fact, that the more come, the more will come.

As far as multi class goes, IMHO there is no point unless you know you are going to get grids of 12 or more, and as stated
you should be running on large tracks. For smaller grids shorter tracks can be useful as you have more chance of seeing
people... I love running events at Green Hell, but unless you have the right mind set it can be really boring
as after lap one you may never see another car, so it's all about gap management. I tried some DTM92 cars at the ring
over the weekend, and they are brill  8) 8) 8) But I am reluctant to run an event there as 1: It's £7 for the track  :scared:
( I think), and 2: I get bored with all the whingeing about how people hate it. Personally I love it, I often don't finish
but I do like to try  ;D

Couldn't race last night as I had a wedding reception to go to.

@GT
I agree, if there are not sufficient numbers for multiclass we should revert to a single class, I am happy to stick to some sort of CDP/LMP style cars or we could amalgamate the spare dates into the GT3 series as this is popular.

I switched as i realised i was never going to run with you guys and i normally am around Apex's speed and needed someone to run with!

It might have been a perfect storm? Difficult track, LMP2 cars requiring alot of concentration, long race time? But I would question the multi class as Matt says, the numbers are too low.

Maybe with the clocks changing people are having to let real life in a bit?

The GTR3 only races i think have been reasonably well attended, from what i remember, so would be tempted to stay with the class more.

You certainly have been enthusiastic about R3E, but i thought at the time maybe the series's were a little ambitous with numbers so low.

But i agree, with the content available in R3E it is surprising, and a shame more people arnt running it.

I have seen after the patch, that the lobbys are in fact running more people, but you know what I think was the problem, when R3E first launched there game, it was dull and boring. Then they brought massive updates, but the people who first ran the beginning version lost heart, and subsequently have never return, alot say it's because of the pricing and some say too many bugs. Others want a game that you pay once and can have the full thing, others look for a harder drive, eg like IR.

Look at project cars for example, they held back for months, created an expectation and when they realized over 1500 players in game at any moment. Even today there are loads of people in PCars. Even though the game was bugged like crazy.

My point. GT, try a different approach, try asking on different forum what would people like to race in R3E. I personally love Enduro style racing, long, fast flowing tracks, but I also really enjoy the variation the the historical class brings. My opinion I guess. I know the guys really enjoyed that 30 minute races in GT3. We shaw the like of Joel, Jame and Berger plus many more, Maybe try implement more like that for an ordinance. I really think they want to have a quick fast race in relevant to there desire of cars they like. Its all about the target audience you want to attract.

I could never understand why the 15 minute lobby where alway packed, then I realized that these people want to race and get done without getting board.

I like strategic racing, it a thrill to come out a second ahead or behind someone after a pit stop, like we had at Hungariring, Bru that was intense, but not all like that.

Make a pole let people tell you want they want. Why they will race, which tracks they like, then from the create a series. Please don't lose heart, I like racing here.

Ant

Hi...!!!

I have only just joined !!

Due to work, I travel extensively during the week, but try to get home at the weekend, which makes my Sunday a highlight..
I have been searching for a community that would do Sunday races, so to come across you guys was great.

To quote Ant: "Don't lose heart ...!!!"

 :jumpjoy:


... If OK with you all, we could try to attract R3E users through the R3E Leaderboard ...  :hammer:

Oscar

I was planning to do this race, but when I realized, that I was 2 seconds off pace ( and it's a pretty short track ), I just didn't bother.

Stig

Thanks for your feedback fellas, it's much appreciated and gives me some pointers for future  :thumbup1:

Main points:

Multiclass I'd like to continue with the proto cars as they offer some variety and I think they are a great drive particularly after this recent update. I realise they aren't everyone's cup of tea so it seemed a good fix to offer the GT3 cars for those who prefer them but if we don't have the numbers...... I'll be dropping the multiclass format for this series and will continue as P2 cars only for the remaining 3 events.

Race format I try to reflect a bit of RL with race length and format. Sprint races are great for touring cars or some of the single seater classes but GT/proto cars tend to have longer races so I don't think an hour is excessive. Personally I'd like to see the occasional endurance but realise these may be difficult to fit in with RL commitments...maybe a Christmas Special?

Content Sundays here has traditionally been modern GT racing with some protos for variety and has attracted big grids in the days of GTR2. Raceroom is now a worthy successor imo with a great selection of very well balanced cars. GT3s alone are great but racing the same cars every week is likely to become boring which is why I try to mix it up. Raceroom is currently working on updating the GTR2 class of cars which look like becoming a GTE class with some more content. Maybe by the start of next season we'll also have these to play with :)

Promotion We need to spread the word about this place if we are going to attract drivers. I try to do this by keeping our thread alive and updated on Sector 3 forum but as I said before it does tend to get swamped by others. Maybe if we all started posting positive comments and chat there it will get us noticed more.

https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/raceroom-2016-season-at-srouk.3784/


I'm not sure how to do this but yes please, anything we can do to attract good drivers is very welcome  :thumbup2:

Thanks Matt.

Tyres are done now, they share makes of tyres but more cars have the Dunlops so I went with that as I'm sure particular tyres are not modelled anyway.

I did query the 2 types of SR9 but as they share the same chassis we decided to effectively treat them as the same car.