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Title: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 13, 2016, 08:17:12 PM +0000
Season 29 Historic Trophy - Round 7 – Sachsenring

The first race was held here on 26 May 1927 on an 8.7 km layout on public roads, running through the village of Hohenstein-Ernstthal. It was dubbed "Sachsenring" in 1937. The East German motorcycle Grand Prix was held there from 1962 to 1971. The local two stroke MZ bikes of Zschopau were competitive during this time. The quickest lap was achieved by 15 time World Champion Giacomo Agostini on a MV Agusta with a 180 km/h average. After West German Dieter Braun won in 1971 and the East German fans sang the West German National Anthem in celebration (as is the case in sport, the winner's National Anthem is played after the event), the event was limited to East European entrants for political reasons.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

All races will be run at 60 frames per second – please use this patch 60fpsV2newmod (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/60fps/).

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

This race is for cars with 3 Litre engines.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address = look in iGOR
Race date = Tuesday 26-1-2016
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = sachsr67 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9258%20%20%20/tracks/sachsr67.zip)
Race length = 12 laps (50 Minutes)
Variant = 1966 3L
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = minimum of 30 minutes

Password see above (#post_event_password)
Replay will be here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season29/Historics/)

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

Driver lists and rules (please note the rules for the Historics are different this season) can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=512&theme=6)

Please Note: Drivers have to use at least 1 car from each of the groups (Group I, Group II and Group III on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=512&theme=6)).    

Chassis usage so far:

Driver
 Mclaren M2B Ford  
 T1G Eagle Weslake  
 BRM P83  
 Lotus 43 BRM  
 Honda RA273  
 Cooper T81  
 Brabham BT19  
 Ferrari 312  
Mark Barresi
X
Dean Logan
X
X
X
Axel Cookie
X
X
X
Phil Thornton
X
X
Tim Muttram
X
X
X
Andreas Gebhardt
X
X
X
Ronnie Peterson
X
X
X
Evil Clive
X
X
Francesco Molteni
X
X
Sam Blood
X
X
X
Doni Yourth
X
X
X
Dave Rainier
X
X
X
Philippe Girard
X
X
X
Bastian Grupp
X
X
X
Iestyn Davies
X
X
Tristan Bot
X
X
Greg Taber
Kai J Daum
Tom van Ostade
X
Gareth Hall
X


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Walter Conn on January 13, 2016, 11:09:05 PM +0000
For Round 7, Tristan, Tom, and Bastian need to use a car from group I or group II. While Mark, Clive and Gareth need to use a car from group I or group III.  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Rainier on January 23, 2016, 09:35:35 PM +0000

Race length = 12 laps (50 Minutes)


1 lap in Sachsenring is usually less than 3 minutes...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: francesco on January 26, 2016, 07:22:53 AM +0000
Quote
1 lap in Sachsenring is usually less than 3 minutes...

For faster pilots!The track have many traps.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Rainier on January 26, 2016, 11:24:04 AM +0000
Quote
1 lap in Sachsenring is usually less than 3 minutes...

For faster pilots!The track have many traps.

I'm not a fast pilot but I did 2min 49 sec yesterday evening during training.

The best will drive 12 laps with an average time of 2'45'' (or less), so race duration will be 33 minutes (if the best survives ...because yes there are many fatal traps ).
Just a remark, not a problem for me  ;D




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: bagrupp on January 26, 2016, 03:34:17 PM +0000
probably won't make it today


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Gareth on January 26, 2016, 03:55:03 PM +0000
me neither  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 26, 2016, 09:50:51 PM +0000
Something weird happened there. Braking for one of my least favourite corners when a split second of Lag happened and then the FF pulled right more than usual.
The result was my brushing with a hedge and getting stuck there!
Couldn't get out so quit  :(

Really didn't help to notice on my return to the pits that Tristan had had some sort of off so I 'should have' been promoted to a comfy lead  :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: francesco on January 26, 2016, 09:51:58 PM +0000
Doni you behavior was  unsporting,what you pretend in that curve?maybe I should go for medow?
My only intention was to finish a race,thank you for your effort to help me to gain this target.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Samb on January 26, 2016, 10:07:22 PM +0000
Tristan, I am so sorry for ruining your race  :-[. I locked the brakes and simply couldn't slow the car in time. Will send a report in due course.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: MagicArsouille on January 26, 2016, 10:16:23 PM +0000
well it was a bloody break point Mister Blood !!! ???.....anyway ...I am starting very very frustrated about those races ended by a no-fairplay behaviours of some pilote .........What did you espect ?? ! there, whith 3 laps to go don't you think it will be better to confirme your second place.....pffff ..!!  I'm also tired to try to explain how to finish his own race and how to don't finish the race of somebody else...... :-X


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Doni Yourth on January 26, 2016, 10:20:54 PM +0000
EDITED: NO COMMENT.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: GregT on January 26, 2016, 10:55:15 PM +0000
Congrats Andreas and Tristan!

I guess all the Gurney pictures I looked at in the links on srmz, had me stoked. :)

I was very lucky to get 2nd place. I had a legitimate chance at the podium but I didn't expect to do any better than 3rd.

I got plenty of time to look for a place to pass Sam. I never saw much of an opportunity. It's a shame I didn't get more time to look.

I struggled with the slow left hander that starts you up the hill. I couldn't find a consistent line and the T1G's lack of torque really slowed me there. I used a lower 1st gear than I liked and that still wasn't enough to keep the engine from bogging. I'm glad Tristan and Sam were able to pass me there without much trouble. I lost a lot of time to Sam at that turn on most laps but I could usually make it up late in the lap.

Lap 11 my engine died with a slight whimper shortly after entering the forest. Since Andreas was so far behind I decided to coast as far as I could. I made it to the finish line. I was shocked when Prib said I had the lead. I thought completing one more lap could possibly gain me a position. I never expected two. I watched Andreas run lap 12. There was a chance I'd win if he crashed on lap 12. :lol:

That was a great outing in a car I've only driven once before.

My commiserations to all the other unfortunate DNF's.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Cookie on January 27, 2016, 12:14:47 PM +0000
Grats Andreas for a deserved win!!!
You were right to take the Bt19 ;)

As I really hate this track I decided to take a group 1 car and took the Eagle. Was my very first time in this car...
Got the setup pretty well, but had the same problems with the gears and so my egine exploded early in the last downhill sector ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: EvilClive on January 28, 2016, 01:01:54 PM +0000
I wish to submit a report about UFO activity over Sachsenring!!

Control of my car was taken over by aliens just after the start and they directed my car into the barriers at T2.  :alien:

I lost all control over the steering, accelerator and brakes as my Brabham was controlled by some external force.!! :nuke: :scared: :scared:

Just about my shortest race ever!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Rainier on January 28, 2016, 05:40:34 PM +0000
Control of my car was taken over by aliens just after the start and they directed my car into the barriers at T2.  :alien:

I lost all control over the steering, accelerator and brakes as my Brabham was controlled by some external force.!! :nuke: :scared: :scared:


Maybe, it was not by aliens...
Just read :  http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/2015/07/directed-energy-weapon.html


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Samb on January 28, 2016, 08:55:52 PM +0000
Just sent a report about my crash with Tristan. I'm still gutted at how I could create such a mess, especially when it takes an innocent victim out of the race. Nothing that can be done about it now unfortunately, but at least the mods can give out a punishment they see fit  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Walter Conn on February 20, 2016, 10:59:19 PM +0000
Moderation Posted

I apologize that I had difficulty adding a description for Sam's incident.

Thank you to the other moderators that weighed in on these incidents.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Historic Trophy (66) - Sachsenring - Jan 26
Post by: Robert Fleurke on February 22, 2016, 05:57:16 PM +0000
Moderation Posted

I apologize that I had difficulty adding a description for Sam's incident.

Thank you to the other moderators that weighed in on these incidents.

Thanks Walter. For some reason the description won't fill into LM2 Court, here is it:

Lap 11 – Queckenberg Kurve - Last Corner – Sam misses the 200 brake marker board. Braked too harshly in desperation, locking the brakes and hit the back of an innocent Tristan. Tristan and Sam become stuck in the haybail and both retire.

Simple Rear End Shunt: Penalty 1 Place - The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter had lost control on the approach to the braking zone and consequently braked later than intended.