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Title: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Rainier on February 09, 2016, 01:23:32 PM +0000 Season 29 - CHAMPIONSHIP 69X : ROUND 8 – STARDUST
The 8th round of the season will be at Stardust. It is an incredible well made add-on track for GPL, and very drivable. The polo's around the track will hurt you, but are not as deadly as like Mexico, as far I have experienced. Good luck to all! Stardust International Raceway was an auto racing track in Spring Valley, in the Las Vegas Valley. It featured a flat, 3-mile (4.8 km), 13-turn road course, and a quarter-mile drag strip. It was built in 1965 by the Stardust Hotel and Casino to attract high rollers to the hotel. In 1966 it began hosting the season finale of the Can-Am championship. In 1968 the USAC Championship Car series held a race at Stardust. The hotel was sold in 1969, and the new owners largely abandoned the track. Real estate developers Pardee Homes bought the land and built the Spring Valley community on it. After 7 races, Tim is leading the championship followed by Andreas and Doni. The race will be run under INT rules and you can do one Shift+r (only one) followed by a stop and go in the pits (Stop and Go must be taken within two laps of the incident unless on the last lap when a time penalty will be added). We will use the patch : 60fpsV1 (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season27/60fps/).
Please restrict chat to emergency messages only, including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line. Password: see above (#post_event_password) (2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=509&theme=6) and remember : Drivers will have a free car choice BUT Each car can be driven only once in this season! Moderation : no more red zone, only reported incidents will be moderated. Have FUN ! Allowable Chassis Choices:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Gareth on February 09, 2016, 03:35:45 PM +0000 Valentines day!, damn. Well, she'll get over it!
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Ronnie Nilsson on February 09, 2016, 09:45:47 PM +0000 Argh... I have hurt my foot doing GPL. ::) I only play in socks, and after doing some practice yesterday, I am in agony. What a plonker. :'(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Samb on February 14, 2016, 09:50:32 PM +0000 All I can say is sorry Axel, for being the victim of my hopeless and inept racecraft.
Absolutely shocking effort from me :-\. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: bagrupp on February 14, 2016, 10:22:30 PM +0000 Freeeeeezeeeee
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Baab on February 14, 2016, 10:23:47 PM +0000 same here with about 8 to go
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: GregT on February 14, 2016, 10:49:47 PM +0000 Congrats Tim, Clive, Piero!
I was robbed! Things were going well until I spun because my pedals had slid. I readjusted them and was ready to finish off the race in the 27s but the dreaded screen freeze got me on the next lap. It's shame I may have made Bob spin at T2. I think I'm slow entering that turn. I was relieved to see he still held P2 after falling back. I didn't expect I would ever get away from him. I knew I'd be tough in the race since I hadn't gotten as much out of the car I thought I should in qualifying. I hate to see a rare one like that get away. What's worse though is I was looking forward to the late laps while light on fuel. See you next time. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: EvilClive on February 15, 2016, 12:48:13 PM +0000 No time to practice for this race ( the story of my life lately!!) so I remembered a Ferrari setup that I had used at Mexico last season, that was just ultra solid and predictable. Maybe not blindingly quick, but I could perhaps throw it about a bit and squeeze some decent pace out of it?
Some VERY fast times up front during qually, grats to all of those posting WR's. My start was not too bad and I held my place against some faster machinery behind and even picked up a couple of places as cold tyres and over exuberance claimed a couple of victims. I should have kept things steady, but got a little carried away chasing the leading pack and suffered a spin or two of my own :-\ Eventually settled down in about 6th place chasing Doni and his Mclaren. I was able to gain ground if I got a super clean lap, but the smallest mistake allowed him to pull away again...very frustrating! Then he vanished and I was up to 5th, I guessed a disco for Doni was a bit tough, but now I had no target to chase!! A few laps later I was stunned to see that I had somehow been promoted to 2nd spot...although I had not passed a single car..............more discos :-\!! No chance of catching Tim who was now leading, but always every chance of throwing 2nd place away with a dumb mistake. So for the last few laps I just kept it steady but still managed to clip a few tyres!! A lucky and undeserved 2nd place, with so many discos :-\. Especially as I took a slower chassis ;) Commiserations to all of those who got booted, but there were some some seriously fast lap times being posted out there last night by more than one driver, which shows the level of competition in this series. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 15, 2016, 05:51:22 PM +0000 I agree with Clive - It was nice to get a win but it's never nice to do it this way.
Gutted for Greg and Baab, greg was in a different league last night and bob was quicker than me too. I didn't have the time to do as much practice as I normally would for a new circuit (I've never raced here at least) so was a bit disappointed with my time - pretty sure an MS80 should have been closer to Greg's pace or at least faster than I was peddling! I guess this means the car duplication fix hasn't solved the discos' then.. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: DLogan on February 15, 2016, 06:02:09 PM +0000 Watched the replay, and think I should have moved to the other side of the track when Doni was lapping me. No contact was made, but it was a bit close for comfort, and put him off line for the entry to the esses. Sorry for that. Other than that, I think I kept the BRpig out of everyone's way?
Commiserations to the discoees. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Doni Yourth on February 15, 2016, 09:08:12 PM +0000 Not at all, Dean. You held to the right and yielded the fast lane entry to the esses complex. Other than a possible distraction, I felt not impeded in the least. I read instantly what you were doing and I blasted in there at full chat. Your action was exactly the right thing to do from my point of view. Thanks.
If you want to see the WRONG way to do it, go to 16m28s of the server replay cap qualifying session and let it run down to 15m50s with focus on Marco. Thing is, I'm not even sure it was an unintentional act by him. My Q lap binned as he stole the fast lane from me. I mean, seeing a car coming up in one's mirrors while puttering along and then gassing it to close off corner entry for another car closing in fast the right thing to do? Not hardly. I'm consider filing paperwork re this but at the end of day, what would he learn? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: GregT on February 16, 2016, 12:43:11 AM +0000 and suffered a spin or two of my own :-\ I think we all did. I know at one point I was thinking, "I'm sure lucky others, like you, Bob, and Tim, are having as many bad laps as I am." Gutted for Greg and Baab, Thanks for the sympathy. The way qualifying went, it looked like an excellent opportunity for a Team Baarf 1,2 finish. I was content to follow Bob until at least late in the race. My biggest concern was doing everything I could to not wreck Bob. Once he made a mistake, my other thought kicked into overdrive, "open as big a gap as possible on as many drivers as possible." pretty sure an MS80 should have been closer to Greg's pace or at least faster than I was peddling! You were surprising slow. That was another reason I pressed hard the first ten laps. I didn't want to give you a chance to learn the track before I was gone. Same thing applied to Axel, Clive, and Tom. This does appear to be a track where I have some strength. I drove a lot of laps here in the M8F when the track was released. I held the fastest time here for a while until Urban decided to better it. For curiosity's sake and since my M8F time was almost 3 years old, I decided to try to improve it. I have the top time again with room left for improvement. I improved my M7 time too after the race with more room for improvement. I was able to challenge somebody much better than me in the 67s, which surprised me at the time. And had I not been sick, which I hadn't yet realized, I likely would have challenged Bob, Rob, and Iestyn throughout the Works race held here. This has to be one of my better tracks. Eventually, I'll check to see if there's much difference between the M7, MS80, BT26, and 49B here. I suspect they're all very close with BT26 being fastest. Even with the lousy ending, it was a lot of fun. From checking the replay it looks like 6 of us disappeared at once. :( That's a shame, otherwise I recommend to Axel we try this one in the GTs. This track may be fine for the 67s? I don't remember problems with the Works race nor do I remember if it was run at 60fps. oAo seemed to be fine here but that was run at 36fps. Take care guys and thanks for letting me race with you. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: maddog on February 16, 2016, 01:36:34 AM +0000 . . . . oAo seemed to be fine here but that was run at 36fps. . . . . . ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Tom van Ostade on February 16, 2016, 10:01:49 AM +0000 This is a funky track. Those buried tires really prevent you from cutting corners and the track is really narrow, so you have to be so precise with your line to get good exits but still not clip a tire. There is also miles and miles to gain if you push. I went from a 1:31 to a 1:28 in practice just by pushing. Usually you'll see something like half a second gain, but here it is unusually high.
I must admit I'd had a few Belgian beers in the afternoon so might not have been as sharp ;D . It was my aunt's birthday, 84 years old :) . She had a great time. I guess this means the car duplication fix hasn't solved the discos' then.. I think this is on 60 fps / track rather than the drvc69.ini car number duplication fix. 5 freezes in 5 races now :( . Track freezes are amplified by 60 fps. Looking at the replay it seems our mass freeze happened just as Bastian was crossing start/finish line. So, most likely Bastian froze up and took 5 more with him. Next round of beers is on him! ;D . Tommie. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Gareth on February 16, 2016, 10:10:50 AM +0000 Valentines day!, damn. Well, she'll get over it! She didn't :cursing:Shame, this track is brilliant. Please, please consider this one for 65s next season. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Cookie on February 16, 2016, 12:15:38 PM +0000 I think this is on 60 fps / track rather than the drvc69.ini car number duplication fix. 5 freezes in 5 races now :( . Track freezes are amplified by 60 fps. Looking at the replay it seems our mass freeze happened just as Bastian was crossing start/finish line. So, most likely Bastian froze up and took 5 more with him. Next round of beers is on him! ;D . Tommie. It can be anyone of the 6 drivers connection causing the mass disco, maybe someones lag became too big for the server ::) Look what happened in this 1/1000 second Quote 37m18.560s Greg 69X Taber gets disconnected while racing in position 1. 37m18.560s Dave Rainier69X gets disconnected while racing in position 9. 37m18.560s Doni69x gets disconnected while racing in position 5. .... (1 sec later) 37m19.560s Bastian Grupp gets disconnected while racing in position 11. 37m19.560s Tommie69x van Ostade gets disconnected while racing in position 4. 37m19.560s Bob Whitwell gets disconnected while racing in position 2. For the next 69x race (and others) I will try to reduce the size of the traffic by reducing the bandwith settings. The replay files of 69X are ~50% bigger than all other mods! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Tom van Ostade on February 16, 2016, 01:42:31 PM +0000 I think this is on 60 fps / track rather than the drvc69.ini car number duplication fix. 5 freezes in 5 races now :( . Track freezes are amplified by 60 fps. Looking at the replay it seems our mass freeze happened just as Bastian was crossing start/finish line. So, most likely Bastian froze up and took 5 more with him. Next round of beers is on him! ;D . Tommie. It can be anyone of the 6 drivers connection causing the mass disco, maybe someones lag became too big for the server ::) Look what happened in this 1/1000 second Quote 37m18.560s Greg 69X Taber gets disconnected while racing in position 1. 37m18.560s Dave Rainier69X gets disconnected while racing in position 9. 37m18.560s Doni69x gets disconnected while racing in position 5. .... (1 sec later) 37m19.560s Bastian Grupp gets disconnected while racing in position 11. 37m19.560s Tommie69x van Ostade gets disconnected while racing in position 4. 37m19.560s Bob Whitwell gets disconnected while racing in position 2. For the next 69x race (and others) I will try to reduce the size of the traffic by reducing the bandwith settings. The replay files of 69X are ~50% bigger than all other mods! Of course, I was just joking ;) . Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: DLogan on February 16, 2016, 05:53:27 PM +0000 ...The replay files of 69X are ~50% bigger than all other mods! Can someone more familiar with the minutiae explain this? I thought the rpy was pretty much just a record of the car positions, driver inputs and engine rpm, with timing/scoring tacked on as needed (per lap basis? dunno), the amounts of which would all be unaffected by whatever mod was running (the game extrapolates whatever else it needs to show the replay from that data). ??? And wouldn't reducing the BW setting would make things more laggy (not warpy, I know the difference), which is part of what brrr was trying to correct when he made the 60fps patch? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Baab on February 16, 2016, 10:21:11 PM +0000 Just uploaded my times to GPLRank but my fastest time is only in the 1:28s?! Umm...I assume I've uploaded the 'right' file, plax69? Is this an indication that I had lots o lag? I didn't really notice any warp.
I was a bit surprised to take pole but I think I was driving the fastest car! I hadn't checked the times on GPLRank, but now I have it looks like few times have been posted for this track. I generally struggle with set-up, but the default seemed pretty good, I just changed camber and a couple of gear ratios. My race wasn't as good as qual and I struggled to keep it together, allowing Greg to clear off sharpish, least he's a team mate now. Just before I was disco'd Greg seemed to have an issue or two which gave me a modicum of hope for about 2 secs then I had to turn my speakers off before the dogs started barking at the high pitched scream as the disco happened. The disco surprised me given I've raced here a few times without issue...but not with this mod. Cheers, Bob. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Cookie on February 18, 2016, 02:50:05 PM +0000 Dean there seem much more factors included in a rpy, look what infos you can have from GPLRA ,
how else could you make a gearchange analyse of any driver for any lap with lots of extra infos and get his driving line. 69X has lots of cars in lots of liveries and it seems to use a special modified car model, it runs with 60fpsV1 only ::) Brr wanted us to set the BW to every 5 frames to get the same 12 x per sec as with 36fps @3x. For the 69X I want to go back to every 5 frames what will decrease the server/client traffic -20%, but it will increase the crashbox spikes in a corner, what will need a little more cautious driving in close battles ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Tom van Ostade on February 18, 2016, 03:34:11 PM +0000 69x and the GT mod use a different set of physics files. Nigel tried to eliminate the creeping on downhill starting grids with that, but it introduced the brake lock bug. It's not noticeable in the 69x though. For other mods we used a mix of new and old physics files to take advantage of the other improvements, but leaving out the brake lock bug. 60fpsV2 doesn't support the graphics options like those in the 69x and 66 mods have though.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Cookie on February 18, 2016, 04:08:51 PM +0000 60fpsV2 does support the graphics options of the 66 mod ;)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy - Stardust - Feb 14 Post by: Tom van Ostade on February 18, 2016, 11:26:03 PM +0000 Ah, great :)
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