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Title: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on March 25, 2016, 11:59:47 PM +0000
Season 29 Joe Shaw Memorial – Round 2 – Nurburgring

Welcome to Round 2 of the Joe Shaw Memorial series 2016.

The series will be run over a 10 race format with a warm up event in 65 cars on Tuesday, followed by a Championship race in original 67 cars on Sunday evening.

The opening track will be all 14 miles & countless corners of the Nurburgring.

This race is for championship points, with period scoring. 9 points for a win, 6 for second, 4 for third, then 3, 2 & 1. We will be running Pro damage settings with the 67 car set. The following chassis handicap system will apply;
Privateers drivers – no handicap
Works drivers – any car other than Eagle or Lotus.
Fast Works drivers – Honda, Cooper or BRM

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Tuesday 03-04-16
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Nurburgring
Race length = 5 laps
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30 minutes

Gentlemen’s rules apply, although reported incidents will be moderated.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: bagrupp on April 03, 2016, 09:46:07 PM +0100
very unsatifying. Bob was moving into me in at the start. upside down.

BTW: did I make sth wrong. I remeber last times at the ring waiting for others finishing their laps on Qualifying but today it seemed I was the only one ?


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: GregT on April 04, 2016, 12:42:52 AM +0100
Congrats Rob and Sam! That was nice recovery by Rob. The 15 seconds he spotted me after lap 1 was just enough to hold the lead. One more lap and he may have found a way around me.

It's nice to get some very good luck. It's been somewhat poor lately. After a terrible qualifying Andreas was kind enough to give me P4 after the start. Then I was a little too hot into T1 but I didn't worry much. I thought I could easily scrub off enough speed by turning in late and running wide. Unfortunately Rob ran wide too. I couldn't get the car to move left any further and was worried there wasn't more room to my left, but somehow I kept off Rob. Later, there was no way I could keep up with Pelle or Iestyn had they not wrecked. I was able to stay somewhat close ,but once Iestyn wrecked, Pelle was pulling away from me very quickly. The killer tree got him again. I clearly saw his wrecked car and changed lines but at the last moment I didn't think I had moved far enough left to miss him. I'm not sure whether I missed him or his car disappeared just as I would have clipped it. I got sideways and up on the banking but somehow I managed to keep from spinning. That mistake worried me that it was just enough to let Rob catch me before the end. Plus I lost my composure for a bit after that near miss. With a 5 second gap and 2 laps to go, I thought I could win if I could run 8:07s the last two laps. I averaged about 8:07.12 on those two laps. Just enough. :)

I thought about driving the Honda. Late yesterday I decided I'd make it easier on myself and drive the Cooper. I should have practiced a little with the Cooper. I thought I could easily get it together during qualifying. That didn't work but I managed to do it for the race. I took it a little easy the first two laps but once I could see that Rob might catch me, I had to push it a bit to the end. I had just the right balance between trying to go faster but not too fast. It took green in every sector on lap 6 to keep Rob off of me. :) That was an awesome pace by Rob. At my absolute best, I have my doubts I could have stayed within a second each lap of your pace from lap 2-6.

I hope Joe would be happy there's some newer blood to help increase the number of drivers on the grid. His memorial event is now a little special to me too.

Thanks Rob, Pelle, Iestyn, and Andreas. I couldn't have won without your help. I didn't expect any better than a solid 4th and that was in doubt after qualifying.

Take care guys. I appreciate you letting me race with you. :)


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Robert Fleurke on April 04, 2016, 12:43:41 AM +0100
Did one timed lap in quali, that was good enough for Pole, since Iestyn set his lap straight out of the pits.

Braked too late after the start and went off hitting the fence. Hope it didn't cause too much problems for the cars behind. It was just the exhausts blocking my mirror view and then missed my marker for the start. Car felt a bit sluggish in the left turns after that, but still good pushable under control.

Got stuck behind Andreas who refused to yield (as he is entitled to of course), until he made a mistake spinning towards Schwalbenschwanz, on Lap 1. Just got by, and started to reel in Axel who kindly let me by a lap later. Pelle and Iestyn crashed out, and was convinced I could get back to Greg. But he drove fantastic and flawless the last two laps, and I never closed the gap (completely).

Good win Greg, well deserved, and well done to Sam for podium. Also well done finishers, commiserations to the non-finishers...





Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Marco Mercaldo on April 04, 2016, 07:38:22 AM +0100
Pro damage dont forgive............Ronnie too..........


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Jani Posta on April 04, 2016, 08:23:39 AM +0100
It was great to be back on track. But I had to leave early plus I expected more patience from the drivers on a pro event at a track like this, not to mention it was a memorial race...

Grats Greg, you are a true ringmaster :)
Well done Robert ;)


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 04, 2016, 10:36:39 AM +0100
I am neither fast or consistent enough to compete in a 67 car at the Ring. Idea was to stay out of trouble & get to the finish line. Also gave me a chance to try out the Ferrari which I haven't really driven much. Was pleased to get a 8.33 lap but bent the steering on the next lap.


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Ronniepeterson on April 04, 2016, 05:25:15 PM +0100
Pro damage dont forgive............Ronnie too..........

Sorry if you feel hard done by Marco but for me I did nothing wrong. Everyone slowed including me. Forgive and forget I say.

Great turnout again.


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Robert Fleurke on April 04, 2016, 06:53:56 PM +0100
I think it was a domino-effect first triggered by me, cars checking up, and later Bastian and Bob touched side by side, which meant cars had to lift instead of accelerating out of the Sudkehre...it was unfortunate, but Ronnie showed no lack of care to me.

Maybe I was too agressive joining back. I tried to take care though...


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 04, 2016, 07:17:20 PM +0100
That was good fun last night  ;D
You've got to laugh at the times for Sam and my Honda's - finished 0.2 seconds apart and fastest laps within 0.12 seconds :fencing:

I got some bad luck at the start due a bit of bunching in the field, this allowed Sam to get inside me at the Sudkehre (I nearly took myself out as I didn't know he was there) and Dean got a run on me up to Nordkehre too (but was nice enough to let me back through without too much of a fight approaching Adenau).

I haven't seen who lost it yet but on the approach to Karrusell Johny-o span across the track and I managed to pick the wrong side to dive to, luckily we both continued although I lost several more places and a load of time despite a rather snazzy J-turn  :D.
Eventually I caught Sam again and passed him on the penultimate lap only to wash out under braking on the final land and smack the bridge a few turns before Adenau - letting him back past again.
Although I was able to catch back up fairly easily he didn't make any real mistakes and I ran out of time before I could pass again - well driven Sam, that's the second time in about a month :cursing:

Congrats to Greg and Rob on the other podium seats and of course to everyone else who made it to the flag here!


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Baab on April 04, 2016, 08:53:30 PM +0100
very unsatifying. Bob was moving into me in at the start. upside down.

BTW: did I make sth wrong. I remeber last times at the ring waiting for others finishing their laps on Qualifying but today it seemed I was the only one ?


Bastian, it wasn't intentional, I got too much wheelspin off the line and lurched right across the track.   Wasn't expecting it....it can happen, but sorry for not holding on to it better.  By the way, do recall pushing me off the track here in the 65s the other day?  It could have been warp though.

Not sure who it was I was trying to overtake out of turn two but I got squeezed resulting in the other car exploding.  I thought you'd seen me.

A lap or two later I got a swapper on through the compression and whacked the hell out of that tree.  Surprisingly my car survived but was very heavily damaged and only went another mile or two.

Bob


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Samb on April 04, 2016, 09:31:37 PM +0100
 ;D I agree Tim, excellent fun.

I never really cracked driving the Honda during the last memorial trophy so thought I'd use it again. Although lacking in pace in my hands at least, I managed to keep the car on the black stuff for the most part which resulted in a lucky podium given the retirements of Iestyn, Pelle and Axle ahead of me. Great battles through the field though to get to that position  :).

I did think you were the quicker driver this round Tim but lady luck favoured me this time round. Congrats to Greg and Rob for terrific pace up front.


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: bagrupp on April 05, 2016, 08:20:40 AM +0100
very unsatifying. Bob was moving into me in at the start. upside down.



Bastian, it wasn't intentional, I got too much wheelspin off the line and lurched right across the track.   Wasn't expecting it....it can happen, but sorry for not holding on to it better.  By the way, do recall pushing me off the track here in the 65s the other day?  It could have been warp though.

Bob

Hi Bob, no problem. Could have happened to me as well. I was just dissapointed.
I know I had a contact in the esses of the 65er Race, didn't have time to look at it yet.

Apologies if it was my fault.

Best Regards,
Bastian


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Gismo on April 05, 2016, 11:58:55 AM +0100
Sad to see I've missed this race, but looks like a full field anyway :-) Where do I sign up, is there a list of dates/races, I can't seem to find it?

Sick Cooper pace up front guys :-O


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: bernie on April 05, 2016, 05:06:21 PM +0100
Ha ha! Good to see that only Evil got anywhere near my 8:45s  lap record  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Ronniepeterson on April 06, 2016, 07:51:42 PM +0100
I think it was a domino-effect first triggered by me, cars checking up, and later Bastian and Bob touched side by side, which meant cars had to lift instead of accelerating out of the Sudkehre...it was unfortunate, but Ronnie showed no lack of care to me.

Maybe I was too agressive joining back. I tried to take care though...

You started this Rob, not me. Talking of no care Kyalami Rob, Kyalami.


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Robert Fleurke on April 06, 2016, 08:28:37 PM +0100
I think it was a domino-effect first triggered by me, cars checking up, and later Bastian and Bob touched side by side, which meant cars had to lift instead of accelerating out of the Sudkehre...it was unfortunate, but Ronnie showed no lack of care to me.

Maybe I was too agressive joining back. I tried to take care though...

You started this Rob, not me. Talking of no care Kyalami Rob, Kyalami.

Sorry mate, I do make mistakes as well. Not sure what you're on about with Kyalami though.


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Ronniepeterson on April 06, 2016, 09:44:27 PM +0100
Forget it Rob BUT what I would like to remind yourself, Marco and everyone else next time they get bumped or god forbid bump into some one else themselves:-

IT CAN HAPPEN TO THE BEST OF US

Firstly I'd like to apologise to Ray (RonniePeterson) for taking him out of the race, I'd settled into something of a daze after knocking round by myself for quite a while, and my reactions were not at their sharpest when I ran into the back of him as he slowed to let me past. Unfortunately the end result was Ray winding up upside down, very sorry.  :-\

No problem Joe and an apology after a coming together is always much appreciated regardless of who is at fault. The plan was let you pick your own speed and line down the straight but it was not to be. Maybe my Clark-Hill team mate would appreciate an incident report, to possibly narrow the points difference? Not from me, you fully deserved the win and I have no intention of spoiling your 100% win record on a technicality. It would be a travesty of justice. But come Carthage I and everyone else will be out to halt your winning streak at least.

Thanks again for the words above, not everyone finds it possible to apologise, maybe thats the sign of a true champion, we shall see?

RIP Joe


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 06, 2016, 10:16:28 PM +0100
Sad to see I've missed this race, but looks like a full field anyway :-) Where do I sign up, is there a list of dates/races, I can't seem to find it?

Sick Cooper pace up front guys :-O
Gismo - information about this series can be found in the UK GPL Announcements Page - Joe Shaw Memorial thread.


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: GregT on April 08, 2016, 05:43:58 PM +0100
Sorry mate, I do make mistakes as well.

Yeah, lucky for me. I thought Rob did an excellent job recovering from his mistake Ray.

Thanks again Andreas. You kept Rob behind you just long enough to give me the time I needed. Be glad Rob. I think Andreas's recent illness has diminished his tenacity some or he may have kept you behind him another lap. :)

Thanks to Axel too. Nice job staying off of me into Nordkehre. I thought you were coming in too fast. I lifted off the brakes some and turned in a little late, trying to give you some more room. It worked.

That was my best race in the Cooper so far. I also thinks it's the first time I've beat Rob when he was running well at the finish and I didn't have a car advantage.

That was snazzy Tim. I liked that move. It was very smart and took little more time than a quick but possibly dangerous 180. :)


Title: Re: Season 29 Joe Shaw - Nuerburgring - Apr 3
Post by: AnGex on April 09, 2016, 07:46:30 PM +0100
...

Thanks again Andreas. You kept Rob behind you just long enough to give me the time I needed. Be glad Rob. I think Andreas's recent illness has diminished his tenacity some or he may have kept you behind him another lap. :)

...

At your help, Sir.  :) Nexttime I will fight harder.  :fencing: But at Anderstorp I will be without any Chance.