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UKGPL SEASON 30 F2 CHAMPIONSHIP – Round 2 : Castle Combe
Round 2 will be staged at Castle Combe, a short fast track with some tricky corners.  

Drivers will have a free car choice
BUT
Each car can be driven only once in this season!

 

Race List	=	IGOR
Server	=	UKGPL_8
IP Address	=	look at IGOR
Race date	=	14-06-2016
GPL mod	=	F2 67
60fps patch used	=	60fpsV2newmod
Track dir	=	Castle Combe  (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1071)
Qualification	=	20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race	=	race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length	=	~45 min -> 48 laps
Damage Model	=	INT
Replay	=	you will get here

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=553&theme=6)
1 SHIFT-R allowed (with a Stop n Go of 0 seconds)
No Stop n Go within 2 laps = DQ
Multiple SHIFT-R = DQ
Incorrect Stop n Go = 30 seconds added
Last lap SHIFT-R gains a 15 second penalty if a Stop is not possible.
 
Only reported incidents will be moderated
Red Zone : to be updated


GLA and have FUN

Replay: https://www.sendspace.com/file/eqa8sx

Dean...  I didn't bother with a protest against you for your brain fade at Oulton Park but I certainly am filing papers for that piece of nonsense. 

Damn  :(
I was fairly happy to be back on the podium after Tris lost it at Tower and knocked us both way back down the field (Thanks for attempting to extricate me Tris) only to get a screen freeze with about 15/16 to go  :cursing:

Congrats to anyone left racing and I guess to Sam who I think was leading before my untimely exit.

Hopefully Spa will be kinder on me...

Screen freeze same time Tim  :'(

Before that some good racing with David R, Fran and Dean (briefly), while trying to also let the leaders through.

But before that things were not so much fun. I know its a short lap and tight in places with just one line but you have just got to be patient, some were not.

Some corner cutting to make passes? Bad recoveries and rejoins with little thought for others? Late breaking and using the car in front to slow down?

No incident reports from me but can everyone be a little more careful and considerate next time out (me included).

Regardless good luck to everyone still running, nice drive in the Ferrari Clive, I'm rooting for you!

That was an unexpected win. Hard luck to everyone that suffered a screen freeze and to those caught up in various incidents.

My race was extremely dull in comparison. Didn't have to pace to challenge Trist or Tim so found myself comfortably in 3rd running my own race. Then after Tim & Trist's unfortunate coming together I found myself with a very fortunate lead. Towards the end Trist was catching me at a second a lap which would have led to a close finish but sadly the screen freezes paid to that. From then on it was cruise to the flag, though I did make life difficult for myself and span once at Tower  ;).

Congrats to Jani and Bastian for rounding the podium. See you all at the next one.

I was installing a new machine with more FF and didn't get pribluda to work, so its a great result for me.
I rammed a white car,...whoever it was...sorry, was trying to get out of the tow too late.

Grats to Samb and Jani and the other survivors...sorry for the disco guys...

p.s. my other joins are because of techincal issues, just got it too work somehow with 6 min to go in qualifying

It was me  ::)

This kind of things happens too often with you, Bastian. That's my opinion.
In Monaco, I didn't report the incident.
I will report this one.
I hope you will soon change your way of driving.

I knew I'd forgot something... PMs will be sent (with my apologies for tardiness) asking for a penalty for our first contact there.


Haven't watched rpy yet so I'm not clear which incident you refer to, but I'm sure the mods will be busy.

Thanks Ray, i was quite chuffed with my pace in that Ferrari  ;D and despite getting tagged by other incidents in the first few laps and dropping to last place I had worked my way up to 5th ( helped by quite a few "offs" ahead. but just when I was hoping to cruise in and collect some nice shiny points...I got the screen freeze too!! It looks like several cars were booted at the same time.  :-\

grats to Sam and the podium.


Just  note and an apology to whoever I hit when I re joined.
My prib was having a headfit during the race, the same cars were showing as being ahead AND behind me??!!  
When I rejoin, i always check prib for a gap and don't rely on mirrors. The next car was 300+yds back so I eased back onto the tarmac..suddenly there were 2 cars 25yds behind just a second later. My apologies to whoever that was.  :(

Sorry to Peterson for the bad rejoin at lap6.

After the technical problems with 36fps at the GPL Racer event, things ran smoothly here with 60fps.

But I made a mistake in T3 & ended lap 1 at the back. Then I was caught out by someone braking more than expected & I spun avoiding contact.
Next I didn't back out of an overtake on Francesco early enough, he turned in & our wheels touched (gpl collision detection?)
Finally I was pressuring Francesco again when he lost the back end under braking for T3, had a tank slapper & I had nowhere to go.

I decided to retire at this point, the end of a frustrating evening.

Grats to podium, thanks to the admins.

Found my old "consistency helmet" and after I avoided all the troubles in the first laps (and screen freezes), I drove a solid race to a podium finish.
Grats Sam! Thanks all for the race!

Sorry Roo but i have had a pendulum effect without possibility to recover.

np Francesco, it was a racing thing on a tough night for me. it was better for me to retire & have a cup of tea ;)

No problem Fran. Tough night but we still had some good racing.

I watched it now in the replay. You were on the markation line with your inside wheels, so we could start a discussion if you were complete offtrack. I struggeld with my changed FF Values on a new machine, so I couldn't react properly and i maybe avoid you on the laptop. It's no Excuse but you sound like I did it with intention. If seen much more grave accidents watching the fiirst laps here. For me its more 50/50.

No, I don't think you did it with intention.
I just think you have to be more cautious for the future as it seems, if I am not mistaken, you are part of several incidents.

I had 2 wheels on the grass so I couldn't push hard on the throttle to avoid to spin.
From your side, you were still pushing (I saw on the replay your speed increasing).
If you just shifted on the right you could have overtaken me properly.  

"so we could start a discussion if you were complete offtrack. " what does it mean ? what discussion ?  Do you think you have the right to rearend another driver when he is offtrack???? 

I was pretty steamed after a Lap01 collision ended my race yesterday.  Realizing that I was KO'd, I was in no fit mood to continue with a reset.  Resets are for wimps anyway.

I went to bed planning my protest of Dean but woke to a much calmer state and decided against it.  I pulled down the server replay cap this morning and had a look at the full race as I'd left early and didn't save beyond my own demise.  Dean was in fine form what with ruining the races of no less than three people inside of four laps.  LOL!  The real fly in the ointment for him is a collision with DC on Lap09 with a forced reset.  A bit of karma redemption there.  Now, according to the long-established rules regarding resets, a competitor must to his penance with a stop-n-go within two laps.  That would make a stop at the end of Lap10 or Lap11.  Dean did not stop til the end of Lap14 and even then, he was out of the pit stall area which, I believe, carries its own infraction.

I think that everyone from P5 on back is going to move up a spot as you're looking at a DQ there, Deaner.  And not for the first time have you ignored this rule, mate.  I seem to recall at least two and possibly three instances in races in S29 where you failed to obey the reset stop-n-go requirement.  Imola GT comes to mind.  You gotta get this down and it would seem that the best way to get your mind right is with a sharp rap over the knuckles.

I'm not going to file a protest on this as it's a clear violation readily viewed in the replay.

I have only watched the first lap in the replay, but I feel like Dean was innocent of any wrong doing on lap one.

No one has the right to rearend someone, but its more like a wheel touch. Of course, if you can't accelerate, I'll try to make my move.  It was you going wide and starting this scene,  I didn't perform well on the following move. I didn't manage to get along side, was on the gras for a shorter period of time as well. No discussion. I'm sorry about your loss of time.

Walter...  IMO, Dean tried to bully and bluff his way into Old Paddock Bend in an attempt to hold position after a gaffe exiting Quarry.  His approach to Old Paddock Bend after that error should have been governed by caution, not greed.  Witness his shunting off two others within four laps of this incident.  Does this look like someone who's got their mind right?

I do not bluff easily.

Says the guy who decided that, even though he's behind me all the way to the corner, I have no right to any part of the tarmac.

You're welcome for leaving the other 80% of the track clear, and we'll see what the moderators say.  :)

edit: the other incidents where others suffered have been reported, and I pretty much took responsibility (sorry to Ronnie and Fran). Contact with Dave C. on lap 9 was a racing incident, imo, tried to leave him just bit of room while not backing off, not quite enough room, obv.

Missing the pits due to track unfamiliarity, an odd pit entry that I finally found (and nearly missed even then), and concentrating on staying out of the way of the squabbling leaders as they came through, well, I've thrown myself on the mercy of the court.  :'(

Moderation published. My apologies to Dean for not being able to reduce the late stop & go penalty. I do not like handing out penalties.

Speaking of penalties, it may be time to remind everyone about the Yellow Card System. Five Yellow Cards or Penalty Points (PP) will result in additional penalties. I will try to be more lenient with the penalties to help each of you avoid this from happening, but it is ultimately up to you to drive with more caution.

https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/yellow_card_example
and
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10879.0

I believe that the stop & go penalty for amassing three Penalty Points has been made slightly more lenient. More likely after 5 PP. 

Hi, Walter...

I do not concur with your analysis of the shunt involving Dean and I(and Clive + others, too).

You must take into account three factors...

1. Dean has muffed the previous corner and is anxious with frustration due to his own failings to point of greed to try and maintain his position.

2. He is doubtless in a panic from his error which compounds his ill judgement.

3. And, for the clincher most probably not considered in your judgement, he is conciously starting to carve into the dirt/gravel verge of the track looking to take the corner at a velocity that is just not achievable on that line.  Short-coursing the corner, if you will.  He is, therefore, arriving at a point in space and time to which he otherwise...if done properly and legally...would not have been able to occupy.

Now what do you say?

As for his DQ, it's about time that he followed the reset rules.

Doni

I'd say it's time to admit that your Psych. degree was a waste of time. :D :rofl:


"About time"? If you have any other examples, please share them in the appropriate place (it's called a "report"), otherwise, shut up?

I won't waste my time in trotting out your failures to follow the reset rules from S29, Deaner.  Suffice to say that they did occur.

You should thank me for calling you to accounts now.  What if I called you out on a day when you won?  Now that would have been fun!  :)

Got some reading material for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy Enjoy.  ;)


My name is Dean. Please restrict yourself to it. Thanks.

Disappointed in that Wiki link, Deen.  I thought by the header that it was going to be referring to, well, you know...  I see now that I had the spelling wrong and was thinking of something else entirely.  :)

With your DQ from Castle Coombe, I see that we are close in the F2 points standings as we head into Poo tomorrow.  Let's have another good dice as we had in the GP65's, OK?  That was quite entertaining with fair, hard driving.  In the end, I got lucky.  You didn't.

Oh!  And my Psych degree has, indeed, proved largely useless.  Hardly worth the paper it's printed on.  So much for Queen's U.

Doni and Dean, please keep it civilized and don't use racethreads for your personal feud.

It's far from a feud, Rob.  At least from my side.  Just a little give-n-take needling.  Dean and I had a fine punchup at Pau with proper respect on both sides.