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Title: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 19, 2016, 01:06:26 PM +0100
Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~17:30 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qualifying: 18:30 (GMT) (60 mins)
Race: 19:30 (GMT) (50 laps)

Track: Suzuka GP (2012), Japan Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187123#post_suzuka2012)

Cars allowed: BMW 2002tiiS Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/s3.php/gtl/cars/SRou_GTL_BMW_2002tii_1.0.0.0.exe), Porsche 914-6 GTU Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_porsche914gtu), Datsun 240ZG Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_datsun_240z)

Additional car skins: BMW Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pu5ug8ky5mh0r1j/BMW_2002tiiS.zip)

All entrants MUST download the BMW skin pack even if they are not driving the BMW. This is to avoid online loading problems.
                  
Time of Day Setting: 17:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: 2x
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Required

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Cars at the front of the grid may have trouble seeing the start lights. Make sure you have the in-game countdown feature turned on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Bob M. on November 16, 2016, 02:11:45 PM +0000
I'm guessing it's the 2012 version right?  The other link comes up no file found  for me.

Bob


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 16, 2016, 02:21:14 PM +0000
I'm guessing it's the 2012 version right?  The other link comes up no file found  for me.

Bob
Yep, 2012 version. I've changed the OP to reflect this.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Bob M. on November 16, 2016, 07:22:50 PM +0000
Thanks Tony.  Now just have to hope for a empty house with all the kids & grandkids gone by Friday.........I'm a terrible person aren't I.

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 16, 2016, 07:23:55 PM +0000
I'm a terrible person aren't I.
Perfectly reasonable if you ask me  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: EvilClive on November 20, 2016, 03:52:29 PM +0000
I have to ask this question..............I am guessing that the car skins should go in the BMW and Porsche folders?   :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 20, 2016, 04:09:20 PM +0000
I have to ask this question..............I am guessing that the car skins should go in the BMW and Porsche folders?   :whistling:
Yep, but hold off on the Porsche skins. I'm about to replace that car.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 20, 2016, 04:14:33 PM +0000
IMPORTANT

Porsche 914-6 replaced with Porsche 914-6 GTU.

OP revised to suit.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 27, 2016, 03:43:11 PM +0000
IMPORTANT

Due to the Porsche 914-6 GTU I have had to further revise the fuel use/race length calculation.

This race is now back to 50 laps with normal fuel consumption. However tyre wear remains at 2x.

This means that the BMW can have the wick turned up e.g higher revs which will probably make it the fastest car of the trio. However it has, by far, the worst tyre wear of the three makes. Should make things interesting  :shifty:

OP revised to suit.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 29, 2016, 01:14:43 PM +0000
IMPORTANT

Over the Christmas holidays our server and this web site will be offline between 27th to 29th December for relocation and overhaul.

We are still going ahead with this event.

Before the above mentioned dates you should take a copy of the relevant points from the race announcement for your reference.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 03, 2016, 04:45:29 PM +0000
Tony when you setup the Server for free practice over Christmas period can you set it at x2 tyre wear so we can plan our Pitstop strategy for the race?  ;) That of course assumes we are still sober and after a Christmas "belly full" have arms and legs long enough to reach the controls!  :oops: :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 03, 2016, 04:51:02 PM +0000
Tony when you setup the Server for free practice over Christmas period can you set it at x2 tyre wear so we can plan our Pitstop strategy for the race?  ;) That of course assumes we are still sober and after a Christmas "belly full" have arms and legs long enough to reach the controls!  :oops: :lol:
Of course Bill. But be aware of the post before yours. The server will be down over some of Christmas.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 03, 2016, 06:53:16 PM +0000
Tony when you setup the Server for free practice over Christmas period can you set it at x2 tyre wear so we can plan our Pitstop strategy for the race?  ;) That of course assumes we are still sober and after a Christmas "belly full" have arms and legs long enough to reach the controls!  :oops: :lol:
Of course Bill. But be aware of the post before yours. The server will be down over some of Christmas.

Thanks Tony, have been following situation hence my request so I can check tyres wear and if I need spit stop for fuel.  After that I can practice off line until the race.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 03, 2016, 06:59:57 PM +0000
Tony when you setup the Server for free practice over Christmas period can you set it at x2 tyre wear so we can plan our Pitstop strategy for the race?  ;) That of course assumes we are still sober and after a Christmas "belly full" have arms and legs long enough to reach the controls!  :oops: :lol:
Of course Bill. But be aware of the post before yours. The server will be down over some of Christmas.

Thanks Tony, have been following situation hence my request so I can check tyres wear and if I need spit stop for fuel.  After that I can practice off line until the race.

Bill, you can edit your .plr file to emulate on-line fuel and tyre settings. Under Game Options look for

CURNT Fuel Consumption Multiplier="2"
PRACT Fuel Consumption Multiplier="2"
QUICK Fuel Consumption Multiplier="2"
FRACE Fuel Consumption Multiplier="2"
CHAMP Fuel Consumption Multiplier="2"
MULTI Fuel Consumption Multiplier="2"
RPLAY Fuel Consumption Multiplier="2"
CURNT Tire Wear Multiplier="1"
PRACT Tire Wear Multiplier="1"
QUICK Tire Wear Multiplier="1"
FRACE Tire Wear Multiplier="1"
CHAMP Tire Wear Multiplier="1"
MULTI Tire Wear Multiplier="1"
RPLAY Tire Wear Multiplier="1"

The above are from my Fifties Endurance .plr file.

Hope this helps


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 04, 2016, 05:26:01 AM +0000
Thanks Tony.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 06, 2016, 04:42:57 PM +0000
Tony, assume the 3 Car downloads are the same as we've used in earlier Races with an additional download for extra BMW skins.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 06, 2016, 05:13:52 PM +0000
Tony, assume the 3 Car downloads are the same as we've used in earlier Races with an additional download for extra BMW skins.
Yep, that's correct.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 06, 2016, 06:27:27 PM +0000
Tony, assume the 3 Car downloads are the same as we've used in earlier Races with an additional download for extra BMW skins.
Yep, that's correct.

Thanks Tony. :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 19, 2016, 10:30:40 PM +0000
Practice server now running.

We expect the server to be down for essential stuff from 27th to 29th December.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: EvilClive on December 20, 2016, 02:55:16 PM +0000
Reading between the lines of this topic............ it looks like some offline practice might be prudent. The trouble is that the family always has plans to do "stuff" whenever I think I have some free time. :-\

Maybe I can use the 2 hrs before the race starts to find a car and setup, but keep that quiet or someone around here will plan something!!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Erling G-P on December 20, 2016, 11:38:59 PM +0000
Damn, had forgotten how much I love that Beemer !!   :tt1:

Tyre wear borders on ridiculous though, at least on the historics I tested with. Can't recall if they wear slower or faster than the modern options, but fear they may even be the best of the bunch..  :blink:

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: EvilClive on December 22, 2016, 02:43:18 PM +0000
Just d/loaded all of the above during a break in the enforced wrapping of presents, and thought I would try things offline first to be sure I had the correct cars loaded in the right places. Might search out the server over the next few days if I can negotiate some time.  ;)

I assume that we are using the full GP circuit? as I have 3 options under Suzuka 2012.

And....another question from a GTL ignoramus.....Tony mentioned "turning the wick up" for the BMW. I guess that means increasing the rev limit in the setup, but surely that has a detrimental effect on reliability?? otherwise why give that option??


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 22, 2016, 02:47:41 PM +0000
Yes full fat GP circuit please Clive. And the Beemer loves the loud switch set to 11.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 23, 2016, 01:40:54 PM +0000
Damn, had forgotten how much I love that Beemer !!   :tt1:

Tyre wear borders on ridiculous though, at least on the historics I tested with. Can't recall if they wear slower or faster than the modern options, but fear they may even be the best of the bunch..  :blink:

Cheers,
Erling

Tony do we have free tyre choice, or do we have use historic ones? ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 23, 2016, 03:14:05 PM +0000
Free tyre choice Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 23, 2016, 03:52:04 PM +0000
Free tyre choice Bill

OMG more choices  ::) thanks Tony.  ;) So little time with Christmas, social life and visitors to check out tyre options.  ??? Any advice on best option?  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 23, 2016, 03:58:59 PM +0000
Nope  :lol:

(but I bet Erling knows  ;))

Perhaps a pm would be in order?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Erling G-P on December 23, 2016, 04:26:50 PM +0000
Nope  :lol:

(but I bet Erling knows  ;))

Perhaps a pm would be in order?

Well, it was just a coincidence that the setup I used as my base happened to be with historic tyres.  I found those to be my best option for the 2015 race at Talladega.

Have done 10 laps at Suzuka with these, and 10 laps with modern Goodyears, to check laptimes & tyre wear. Laptime 1 sec. better on Goodyears, while tyre wear is almost identical - slightly worse on the fronts with Goodyear, but slightly better on the rears.  Haven't tried the modern Dunlops yet.

Haven't tried the other cars yet either, and can't recall if they have multiple tyre options too.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 23, 2016, 04:48:36 PM +0000
Only the Beemer has multiple tyre options


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Geoffers on December 23, 2016, 04:57:53 PM +0000
I'm getting about the same laptimes with the Goodyears & the Dunlops, haven't tried the Dunlop Historics yet.

Hopefully 3 or 4 NG guys will be joining us for this. Maybe worth bumping the thread at SJ Tony, so they don't forget.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Erling G-P on December 23, 2016, 06:43:58 PM +0000
Just did 10 laps on the Dunlops. Fastest lap equal to the Goodyears, so mirrors Geoffers experience. Tyre wear was the best (least bad) of the bunch; not that there's much between them.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 23, 2016, 07:12:39 PM +0000
Maybe worth bumping the thread at SJ Tony, so they don't forget.
Done  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: EvilClive on December 29, 2016, 12:34:05 PM +0000
I have just tried the server/cars/circuit for this Suzuka race.

The BMW certainly feels the fastest (even without the wick turned up !!) and I did about 10 laps total in it on various tyres. I would agree with Geoffers and Erling about the wear rate, in fact I presume that the practice server has the 2x tyre wear operational, otherwise my race might consist of more pitstops than racing laps!!!

Tried a few laps in one of the Porkers, just for comparison with the BMW, but mine only came with those modern slick tyres and no choice of "vintage" etc, is that correct Tony?

200 mtrs in the Datsun was enough, and I made the decision to drop that option, although maybe that is unfair and I might come back and try that again before Friday evening. I think we did a race at Road America? or Atlanta? last season with the Datsun and I might have a half decent setup to use.




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 29, 2016, 12:50:09 PM +0000
Yes the praccy server is set to race conditions. Yes the Pork only comes with non-vintage tyres. Yes you have driven these cars before (albeit in different variants) https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=460&theme=5


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: EvilClive on December 29, 2016, 10:46:40 PM +0000
 ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Bob M. on December 30, 2016, 04:07:44 PM +0000
Won't make this race, family is here for the holidays.  Also looks doubtful for Mondays race, have to Taxi kids and grandkids to the airport in the PM.  Would have liked to race Monday on that fantasy track, after many laps of practice learned to like it.  Quirky find Tony!!!!  Now onto finding a setup for Can Am cars.  Going with the 427 Chappy, always rooted for them back in the day....

See you then
Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: roguk on December 30, 2016, 07:03:23 PM +0000
UGH UGH wheel decided not to work in GTL, works fine in windows, but in GTL not recognizing wheel turn to right, but on track wheel goes hard right impossible to drive car straight, disappointed was looking forward to this, Hope you Guys have a good race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on December 30, 2016, 07:32:29 PM +0000
UGH UGH wheel decided not to work in GTL, works fine in windows, but in GTL not recognizing wheel turn to right, but on track wheel goes hard right impossible to drive car straight, disappointed was looking forward to this, Hope you Guys have a good race.

In past also me had the same problem with my g27 when I changed PC. If you remove Logitech driver and reinstall it possible you resolve


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: BillThomas on December 30, 2016, 07:35:37 PM +0000
Sorry folks but I have a  problem.  ??? Everything went OK on line on my own but tonight I loaded so far and then Had Geoffers pulsating and quit.  Tried uninstalling and re-installing to no avail, tried different cars without success. What a bummer!  ::)  All that practice to no avail, still new Season starting Monday - hope for better luck then.     :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: roguk on December 30, 2016, 08:32:49 PM +0000
Thanks Ziu for reply will try that.

Sorry to hear you could not race Bill.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: EvilClive on December 30, 2016, 09:31:34 PM +0000
Grats to the winners and finishers  :notworthy:

I was really quite enjoying a seriously longer race and had gone long on the first half of the race and tried to be very easy on the gas to push beyond 30 laps, which worked. I could actually have done a few more laps but I lost my nerve and dived into the pits  ::)
It meant that when I left the pits I had fuel and rubber to burn for the last 18 laps and I started to push. I caught John and he did the honourable thing ( eventually  ;) ) and slid out of the way. I was then looking at Cap7 and Steiny who where some 9 secs ahead and hoping that they would suffer with tyres in the later laps and I could pick up a few more places.

Good plan, in theory.

Early in the race I had picked up 2 warnings for running wide, so I had been ultra careful not to invoke the SnG Gods by doing that a third time................but in my enthusiasm to catch Cap7 I ran wide for the dreaded 3rd time and had to do "the pit lane crawl" and wait whilst my crew picked their noses  and scratched their backsides before letting me go. John was now back in front, but maybe catchable in the last 20 minutes.
2 laps later I get Dq'd, for not completing an SnG???? An ignominious end to a fun race  :-\ especially as i did do the SnG.  I am more miffed that I was robbed of a finish after such a long time, rather than my lowly position.
I would love to see more races like this, as it presents a different challenge and mindset. Although I still have issues with these grippy modern tyres !!!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 30, 2016, 10:26:49 PM +0000
Replay now available.

Results may take a while due to something not quite right with our new server setup.

Watch this space.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 31, 2016, 10:30:10 AM +0000
Results now posted

Thanks to everyone who took part

 :balloon: Happy New Year  :balloon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Steiny on December 31, 2016, 11:46:26 AM +0000
Had a great race last night, but started a bit on the offside.

My GTL was VERY sluggish, whenever i'd hit a button it would load for like half a minute to a minute and then give me the next menu. As i've had no time to test and i liked the BMW, i thought i'd have a run in that, but after trying a couple of times and wasting basically half an hour trying to get in whilst also fixing my gtl-problem, i basically gave up and went for the dreaded Porsche 914.   As i tried to enter the server, the menu told me there were 9994 minutes to go and in the right screen it sayd "Nothing" ... yeah, i can see that... hmm, i had that with the BMW the first time, and with about 3 minutes to go i jumped back out to reload it yet a second time. Picked the car after a minute..... clicked the big arrow to get going and load the track.... and yet again, nothing happend, just Heatcan telling me i now had 1 minute to go...... when it finally loaded, Heatcan was telling me i was too late to join, then it started loading and it ACTUALLY LOADED straight in!!!!
Two seconds later, the race was counting down..... uhoh.. the boys told me there was a setup online, but since i now was scared of hitting any buttons that could take upto 1 minute to respond, i just checked options if my wheel was responding, checked the setup, upped the steeringlock to about 29, filled the tank up, and as Heatcan counted down for me, i upped the gearbox to where i "thought" i would need it, tried to click the suspension, but there was no time....
as good as a  default setup it is then! Doh    Yeah, i know.. i know... i'm a deadbeat for not doing any practice... but work's been hard and gametime suffered.   SO, back of the grid it is!

Luckely i could see the startlights! Unlike those posers who had everything sorted and were in the front couple of rows Get_me_coat  Lol


The first two laps i tried to get a feel for the car and spun it 3 times, of which one time, simply popping it into second gear and not revmatching Rotfl  but then i started realising i shouldn't push this socalled "racecar" to it's limit, i started crawling up outtof the deep doodoo i got myself into and actually started to develop a rythm.  Learning the track was no issue however, since i've loved suzuka ever since i layed my grubby mits on it in the first years of gtl.  The only differences i could see with the previous version was smoother lines, and a bit of a bigger warning label on that final chicane, also 180R was a lot less tight, but is still very deceiving at high speed in a car that doesn't like to be pushed.
It was a very good feeling to finally be able to tame the beast and get to know it's features and faults, the 914 was growing on me those first 10 laps... like a abcess that really needed to be removed, but it was a nescessary evil to withstand the whole 50 laps, afterwards i can always go see a doctor... which i did. I so hated that car, and i wished for quite a while, that although my competative soul kicked in, i actually didn't have to overtake anyone in a side by side manner, as i didn't know how that would turn out... confidence was low, but laptimes were getting faster and faster, getting to know what the car can do under braking, trying not to lock up too much and eventually overtaking our organizer Tony and Eifel. Most of the times i had playertags turned off, so i probably overtook Clive too at some point. (his name popped up once in the last few laps, hadn't seen his name before, so i was surprised to see where in this mismatch of lapped cars he was in... Heatcan suffered a broken car and had to pit, complaining to me as i came round the pit that he'd been lapped.
Then at one point, battle for 6th or something, that the guy infront of me was just about as fast as me, and i could only herass him by taking .2 of seconds off the time he was infront of me... hmmm... then i screwed up again, lost half a second, then i'd gain 3 seconds as he mighta gone wide... he did make me want to go faster and try harder. My laptimes came down from 2.27's to hight 2.25's  though. (thanks Cap)
Just before halfway i noticed my fuellevel was still at like 24 liters, so i thought i'd just pit and get the one fuelstop and tires over with so i could start afresh and hopefully kick some laptime-arse on track, and spend less time refueling because of not running on empty. (yes i know i have to drag that extra stuff around and it's costing me seconds! hahaha, think of it as reversed psychology) And maybe gain a second or two on the guy infront of me as he's doing his pitstop.
It played out pretty nicely and somehow i got pretty rapidly closer to Cap7 *(it turned out) but as he saw the threat of me passing him, he stepped up his game, pushing his black beauty even further, but in the process creating more smoke, which means less tires and me calculating, that if i leave a trail of smoke, half the size of his, i'd be having half more tires left for the end-battle Innocent .
Well, it turned out the datsun is a beast once you smoke up the tires, Cap started blurring "Waiting" into the chat (which he had no control over we found out later) and i was like.. huh?!   i just turned on my lights, so does he think i'm a faster guy trying to lap him!? but as the light faded away my braking markers like "Blackened asphalt" i turned the boogers off again, but more and more markers started fading, even though the sun was still glistening over some parts of the track, it was getting pretty rough in terms of visibility.
So, two more laps later, lights back on and getting used to the situation.  Then the leaders started passing, and i was trying to plan it so that i wouldn't lose much time, or make them lose much time, i just wasn't confident enough in the car to be  doing outside lines in the first couple of esses, i'd just stick to my lines untill they really got close and then move off the racingline to let them pass. Worked for me, sorry if i held you up. Didn't want either of us to crash in the process.   As i think Geoffers came by i tried to follow, but soon found i missed some speed... but i was still keeping up with Cap somehow.... and we both were closing in on Jeep.   Then at one point, outtof the blue, Jeep pushes it and loses it and Cap and me both get past him.... okay, numbers 4 and 5 now!  Jeep is obviously pissed off at his mistake and starts to close on me again, i make a couple of little mistakes, but then somehow he overdoes it yet a second time and loses time on me again. Then in about lap 38, Cap is getting really squirmy and loses the back end, i slow down as not to not hit him, and pass... yaay, 4th.. But, with a pretty fast driver behind me, closing in as he pushed the datsun to it's limits... but it wasn't to be..  lost concentration a couple of times watching his headlights come closer and completely lose the racingline  (yes, pressure seems to work on me, untill i tell myself to get my shit together again) running over the cerbs, which i haven't done all race long!? Rotfl   
Oh well, start to get back into the rythm and slowly but surely Cap is no longer in my rearview... judging by the timeboard on startfinish (no, i dont use XD) the guy in 3rd spot is solidly in it with 1m40 infront of me, and Cap behind me has probably spun again whilst trying to take the beast towards the finishline as the gap opened up rapidly at one point near lap 44. He was gaining quite alot, to my astoundement, untill his car bit him again... last 4 laps were a breeze... as i came up on startfinish in the last lap a huge burden lifted off me...

Sorry for not practicing Sad ....Very great racing with you all, it's been a blast.   Excited Excited Smile Thanks for the invite Tony! 



Woof ~ Woof



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 31, 2016, 12:22:20 PM +0000
Great write up Steiny and congrats on having such an eventful outing with us.

Don't be a stranger; we are here every Monday night just doing GTL like it should be done, for fun.

Cheers

Tony


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Erling G-P on December 31, 2016, 02:20:26 PM +0000
Yup, nice write up Steiny, and grats on grabbing 4th despite all the problems.

Like I said before the race, I do love the Beemer, but its atrocious tyre wear, coupled with the fact that my first timed lap in the Porker was quicker than my best in the Beemer, convinced me I wasn't going to use it after all. (Could only manage 25.9 in the BMW; how Geoffers did 21 laps boggles my mind.. :blink:)

Also tried the Nissan, not least because I love its shape. Seemed the slowest for me, and I also found the placement of the windscreen wiper extremely annoying, so quickly abandoned it.

Have occationally done well in endurance in the past, so hoped to be competitive. Alas, quickly clear that Geoffers and Caspar were operating on a completely different plane.  A little slow off the line and then too much wheelspin, which made it easy for John to do his usual mugging, getting in front. Pressured him as hard as I could, and on L3 he got a vicious kick from his rear at the Degner Curve, sending him into the sand.  Thus past, I could chase Cap, whose Nissan appeared a handful.  Got past through the S Curves, only for him to pass again down the straight.  Next he overshot his brake point at Casino Triangle. I followed him, but got myself extriacated again first, and set off with Cap in hot pursuit.  Next lap same place, I repeated his move, and he did mine; quite hilarious really.  Unfortunately he spun, which meant the end of our scrap.

From this point the race turned quite lonely. Leaders were long gone and still moving away at 2-3 secs a lap, and gap to Cap continued to grow in chunks, presumably when he spun off.  Caught up to the leaders in the pits at the end of L25, but they were leaving just as I arrived.  Testing had indicated I would lose more time on the worn tyres, than it would take to replace them, so just did the whole package.  Exited the pits, and as fate would have it, just behind my old nemesis John.  He flashed me past later that lap, and I assumed he would pit.  He didn't though, so thanks John; very gentlemanly of you!

Few laps later, I was suddenly in front of Caspar, after one of his SnGs. Made a mistake and he was past, which was just as well, as he was so much quicker.  More lonely laps followed, but in the final stages, the gap to Caspar was suddenly down to 5 secs (from ½ a minute).  Had been doing rather sloppy laps, as there was no threat from behind, and seemingly no prospect of advancing, short of a technical problem for the leaders.  Tried to tighten up my act, but of course couldn't make any inroads in his lead.

Grats to Geoffers & Caspar, and commiserations to those with problems; especially Bill, who missed the entire race.  Strange with Clive's DQ, despite serving the SnG.  You did press 'enter' when the pit board showed ? (I don't think you're released if you don't)

Thanks to Tony for the organising of the entire season, and a Happy New Year to all  :balloon: :balloon:

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: SpecialKS on December 31, 2016, 03:09:46 PM +0000
Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Suzuka 30122016)

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Happy new year to you all  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Geoffers on December 31, 2016, 04:10:44 PM +0000
Yeh, good write up Steiny & also Erling.  :thumbup1:

Decided from the outset to take the BMW, never even tried the other cars. Did quite a bit of testing for this, quite unlike me, & managed to improve the setup quite a lot over one that I had previously used. Tested all the tyres & got pretty much the same laptimes with all three options, so it was just a case of finding which had least wear. So I ended up with Dunlops on the front & Goodyears on the rear!  ???

Just pipped Caspar to pole position with a lap nearly a second quicker than I had done in testing. Start was pitiful, too few revs, sorry to Cap behind, I think I held you up a bit, but was good enough to hold on to 2nd behind Caspar. Actually got a 'cut track' warning on the run down to T1, I think I must have driven in the pit exit lane!  ::).

Anyhow, my 2nd place soon turned into 1st when Caspar nearly lost it at the Hairpin & soon turned into a fairly comfortable 7-8s advantage when he made another mistake. However after about a dozen or so laps the Beemer became more difficult to control as the tyres rapidly lost adhesion & Caspar's Porsche whittled my lead down to nothing & when I ran wide at the Dunlop Curve he nipped ahead. Could not keep up & by pitstop time Caspar was over 10s ahead.

Stop went smoothly, new tyres & fill with fuel, rejoined & soon regained the lead as Caspar peeled off into the pits for a second time  ??? Now had nearly 40s lead, surely that would be enough I thought. Tried not to push the tyres too hard & they did last a little longer, but with 10 laps to go the lead began to shrink in big chunks. Still thought I had enough in hand but then lost 6-7s when I had to take avoiding action when HeatCan spun in front of me at Dunlop. With all the tyre smoke I could not see his car & just clipped it which sent me through the gravel trap.

Gap now was down to around 15s with 5 laps left!  :o It was going to be close, but the thrilling finish didn't materialise as Caspar was in the pits again, 2nd S/G. So I eased it home to a rather lucky win, the handling was so bad over the last 3 laps I was basically cruising round & if I had been under pressure I would probably have binned it!

Congrats to all finishers & very bad luck to Caspar, you would have won easily without the S/Gs.  :notworthy:

Thanks to Tony for organising, just a shame there was not a bigger grid.

Happy New Year all, cya Monday for the start of the new season.   :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 31, 2016, 05:50:06 PM +0000
Results (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Suzuka 30122016)

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Happy new year to you all  :P
Thanks again Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Jeep on December 31, 2016, 06:03:39 PM +0000
Well, I tried all the cars prior to the race. Like Erling I found the windscreen wiper on the Datsun really annoying and was right in my eye line when trying to judge right handers so abandoned it quite quickly which is a shame as it seems to handle quite nicely. On to the Beemer Oh yes now we're talking.. What a car. Quickly felt at home in it for 10 laps or so until the tyres went off at around Lap 11 (In my case). How the hell Geoffers kept up that pace until his pit stop is beyond me,. "Hats off to you sir". So that left the Porsche. Never quite felt truly at home in it. but found I could get the tyres to Lap 30, possibly further with the server settings so sadly put the Beemer on Ebay and concentrated on trying to develop a set up I liked for the 914.

Found I was able to run around in the high 1:25's -> low 1:26's during the lead up to the race but for some reason was unable to replicate it come race day. Qualy went ok with a mid 1:24 which was very close to my PB but still some way off Erling's 1:23.8 so had to be content with a 5th place grid slot.

Lined up and the flag dropped. I bogged a little off the start but only slightly. Got the jump on Erling and chased the front 3 into T1. On the exit I suddenly found I couldn't see. Is there some way to turn Sun Glare off? I had downloaded GTR33's excellent HD patches and this effect in particular is very good when compared with the GTL default but I spent the 1st half of the race until the sun went down with real problems.

Anyway, back to the race...

Somehow managed to keep Erling behind me for 2.5 laps until I misjudged the entry into Degner, got a quick snap over steer for my trouble and ran into the kitty litter letting both Erling and Clive through. Still, no harm done, re joined and set off after the pair of them. Caught Clive and was following him closely though the Esses plotting my attack but lost it in T6, caught it before it became a spin but this put me several seconds behind. Clive then lost it exiting Degner and I was back through again. Found a recovering Cap7 at the Hairpin somewhere around Lap 8 so was back within a few seconds of him, then he spun into the chicane at the and of lap 9 and I was through. Held the position for just over a lap and then on the run down to Spoon Curve hit a bump which flicked me into the Armco letting Cap7 back through. Once free of my rolling roadblock he started to extend the gap. I made a few unforced errors, then he seemed to respond in kind and the gap came back down again as we all came to terms with the tyres starting to wear and finding previous entry and exits needed a bit more care. Finally I was back up his A$$ on Lap 19 and when he spun at the hairpin I was through and back up to 4th. Passed Erling when he pitted around Lap 26 so briefly got up to the heady heights of 3rd, there was no way in hell though II was going to stay in front of him on my used tyres so waved him through on the run down to 130R. Stayed out until lap 28 and then pitted.

The pitstop was the usual comedy of errors. Thought my pit stall was near the entrance but it wasn't so crawled down pit lane waiting for my pit crew to appear. Had to physically restrain the Body Shop team and the suspension guys who wanted to rebuild the car and elected for just a tyre change and fuel but the time spent selecting the wrong options initially cost me dearly. Rejoined in 5th behind Clive.

Then on Lap 31 made a rookie mistake. Seeing Geoffers closing fast and thinking he was in a battle for the lead I let him and cap7 through so lost a position, then to add insult to injury spun at Spoon curve and let Steiny through as well. I knew both were faster than me but I had hoped to make it a bit more difficult for them to get past, so was back to 6th as Clive had also pitted on this lap. Clive rejoined a few seconds behind and was on my tail a few laps later. I held him off until Lap 37 and then spun out at the end of the sequence of Esses letting him through so was back to 7th. A few laps later he pitted again and I took 6th place back. Which was where I finished.. I knew I wasn't particularly fast but too many unforced errors meant I was a very distant 6th behind the battling cap7 and Steiny ahead.

Congrats to Geoffers, you should try GPL, if you can drive the Beemer like that on worn tyres you should feel right at home. :) Conrgats also to Caspar and Erling for the other podium spots. Thanks Tony for organising this one, I've grown to quite like Suzuka. Shame more could not have made it but nice to see new names (To me). Hope you can all make a few Monday night races during 2017.


I really like the longer races and would like to see more of them added to the calendar. I'll miss the 50's Endurance races in 2017.

Happy New Year everyone..

TTFN
John.
 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 31, 2016, 07:31:29 PM +0000
@ Jeep. In yourname.PLR file under graphic options you can turn lens flare off.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Jeep on December 31, 2016, 08:14:53 PM +0000
Aha, Thanks Tony, I scoured the options in game but couldn't find anything. Me thinks I'll keep it just for off line races.

Gotta go, Beer to be drunk and women to chase. :) Happy New Year all. Hic..

TTFN
John.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Steiny on January 01, 2017, 05:36:18 PM +0000
Great reports guys and thanks for the monday-evening headsup.. i'll keep a lookout. (and Tony, yer welcome to post in SJ, to see if some more will rowdy up to joining in!)


Happy New Years all, great racing and successfull pitstops for the coming season!




Woof ~ Woof


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: HeatCAN on January 01, 2017, 05:52:44 PM +0000
Hey guys!

Just got done registering, finally.  I am a member over at simjunkies.org, and Tony was nice enough to invite us to join in the xmas festivities.  Thanks again, Tony, as I had a great time.  True apologies to all of you, I spun in front of, causing a real scare, especially Eiffel, who could not avoid me, and probably was damaged.  Too bad more people could not attend, as this was a fantastic combo.  Congrats to the fastards on the podium, uncluding my good friend Caspar, and thanks to all the organizers!  :)

Just a bit about myself:  I am originally from Spain, now living in the U.S.  My name comes from most of the real cars I have driven through the years, including my current sled, my Audi TT.  A 'HeatCAN' is just another name for a 'Turbo'.   ;)  I have been simracing for over 10 years, mainly at SJ, and really enjoy helping with setups, and am pretty familiar with the tech side, as well as GTL, GTR2, and rFactor.  I have been out of regular racing lately due to the fact that my harware is unable to run the new mods, and not many are still running the classics.  So, watch out for me on track as the rolling chicane, he he.   :laugh:

Again, thanks for having me, and I may join a race or two in season 17, as currently I have Mondays off!!  Look forward to meeting all of you at Goodwood one of these years.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 01, 2017, 10:45:26 PM +0000
Hi HeatCAN, glad you had a good time. Can you tell the others that there more than welcome to take part, now that they are proper members of SROUK. Please fill in your drivers details, including nationality, then you get a little flag next to your name in the results.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 16 2016 Christmas Special - Suzuka - Dec 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 01, 2017, 10:47:45 PM +0000
Great reports guys and thanks for the monday-evening headsup.. i'll keep a lookout. (and Tony, yer welcome to post in SJ, to see if some more will rowdy up to joining in!)


Happy New Years all, great racing and successfull pitstops for the coming season!




Woof ~ Woof
I can certainly post a linky dink on your site a week before each race. Probably too late for tomorrows race tho.