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Round 4 - Monza GP - Endurance Round

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Booking: 18.15 (for drivers not in the entry list)
Practice: 19:15 (60 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 33 Laps (approx 60 mins)

Cars allowed:
All GT3 class cars
Bentley add-on car:- link from my dropbox:-
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mya0htvomf12umf/bentley_continental_gt3.zip?dl=0
Install to :- C:Program Files (x86)SteamSteamAppscommonassettocorsacontentcars
(Only if not already installed from Round 1)

Track: Monza GP

Optional skins:-
nsfw Nissan GTR:- https://www.dropbox.com/s/c77ewqkl6gdkb8n/Schulze_Motorsport_Blancpain.rar?dl=0
Mark Ekins Lambo Huracan Konrad Motorsports car  https://www.dropbox.com/s/btf51n59rdu95nh/Konrad_Motorsport-BES2016_29.rar?dl=0
Lukas LDG Bmw Z4:-  https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2xk88qp5z791jp/LDG_Z4GT3Livery.rar?dl=0
Linus' Nissan GTR:-  https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2blhbzbxeqk00q/gt3_09-nr3.rar?dl=0

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Mid Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: 1 mandatory stop

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 80%

All drivers not in the Entry list must be booked in to race before booking closes at 19.15 U.K.

PLP App - Not used in this series.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
(3) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct name

I've put this in early as I'm not here to race for Monza, ironically I'm in Italy  ::)

It's scheduled as an endurance round but bearing in mind it's prime holiday time I'm tempted to reduce it to a sprint length. What say ye all?  :)
Assuming Petes alright to run this in my absence? If not, we can have a weeks summer break!

Nice, an endurance race. Sadly i will be away then and the two following weeks. Would have suited the big Bentley! You all have fun.

Ha Ha - nice try  ;D Sadly for you I don't do holidays so I'll be here to perform the duties  :-*

Good man Pete,  :)
though like Postal I'm gutted to not get to race the Bentley here and monster those whipper snapper cars that have plagued me in the first two rounds   :'(

Endurance sounds great, if enough drivers participate we should definitely do the 60 mins race with a pitstop. Not a big difference between 35 mins and 60 mins if you ask me ;D

1 hour race sounds good to me. Haven't got any holiday planned this year  8)
Is the pitconfig app allowed for pitting then?

Yes pitconfig app allowed (and recommended!)  Race will be 1hr as intended.

I'm available also and prefer the 60 minute race.

Mark - Don't forget to update the main page with the link to my skin :)

Done  :)

Yup, I'm keen on an hour (It will be nice to get a long race in before I have to 'quit')
Even if the Z4 is likely to get monstered here!  ;D

Practice server is up (if I got it right ;))

Server is up, but the track name is wrong (just monza instead of ks_monza  ;) )

Doh - now sorted

I'm away for this round sadly so no Bentley to monster you all on the fast straights here. See you all back for Silverstone.
Any race or driver queries should be directed to Pete Allnut (picnic) in my absence.
Good racing all  :)

Getting a checksum error when i just joined for some practise. Might have something to do with yet another hotfix! Server needs updating!

Another one! I'll get on to it.

I was on it this afternoon, when was the hotfix?

That said, I can't see the laps on the stracker thingy.

Today/ tonight i've had a 11.5 meg download. My version is 1.7.4

That's a hotfix from yesterday, so I think the server should already be on that. Just went to check, but I didn't see the server at all  :P

I didn't know about 1.7.4 until Spanner's post this evening. I have updated the server and restarted everything but not had a chance to jump on and check it's ok. Off to do that now.....

... and it loaded OK - Windows has again decided to load the wrong USB driver for my wheel so I couldn't actually drive anywhere  >:(

If you guys can, will you create some traffic over on the Kunos site to pique people's interest? Attracting new drivers is an ongoing process and not so easy from my beach bed  ;)

And to get your juice buds going, especially you Nissan pilots  8)

https://youtu.be/OCR0QGoXDzc

This is awesome, I thought our starts were tense and frantic enough but the real deal is just as hot on the senses  :o
https://youtu.be/FxtjjRcYbKw

This never gets old, overtaking 18 cars in the first two laps, lovely 8)

Hmm. well i'm just the 4secs away from nfsw time on the server lol  ::)

stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat

Hmm either you guys are all super confident of your Monza pace or everyone is away on holiday (including me!) - only 5 drivers times posted so far.

Pete, may have to revise your number of laps slightly as we have some 1:48  :o times, or leave as-is  :-\

Sticking to the original suggestion of 33 laps. Lap times might be a second quicker but, as you pointed out, I need to allow for a pitstop.

First post updated.

Anyone know where the time splits are round the lap? Tend to watch the constant delta time. Looking at the stracker data i'm losing 8-9 tenths in the last two sectors :ninja:

I went on last night and it's not looking good, my best was 1.51.9 but a 1.52.x is more consistent :(

Really hoping to get to participate tomorrow, though I'm not holding my breath... BT are actually useless. The line has been down since last Wed (hence I missed the last race), and are promising me it'll be fixed by the end of this Wed...  ::)

So I may or may not be attending. If it looks like I won't be able to race I'll try and let you guys know before hand and someone else can take my place if they like.

Interesting laptimes. I'm currently looking slow....
I'll have to try and stay clean - that or do some sort of epic strategy!

Is it just me or is it a bit chilly in Italy?  ;D

Just can't seem to get any heat into the tyres, they stay around 50 - 70 degrees and only when I have some over- or understeer does it flash something that slightly coming close to green for a few seconds.  :(

Still looking forward to tomorrow, gonna be a though race.  8)

Just a quick confirmation that I almost definitely won;t be able to race tonight, looking like BT really has f***ed up, and won't get the broadband up and running today like they had promised.

Good luck to all involved tonight, have fun and I look forward to hearing about it tomorrow.

I'm having trouble getting onto the practice server.

What sort of trouble?

Buona fortuna sta sera...that's good luck this evening! From sunny Italy   8)

Have a good race gents. :)

Unfortunately i cannot make it to this round :/

hope to be able to race next week

That's a shame Brocookie
 

Server is up chaps

Whats the servers name , i was in the practice server now cant find the server?

Me too.  ???

And when i select servers i was recently in nothing comes up!

I think that they kick people whose are too slow.

Rubbish

I was on the practice server and left the game running, restarted server - hit the refresh button on my game and there it was. I wonder if we have a problem with the entry_list file  :-\

I see you're on the server now, there is a subtle change in the name in the I change it from practice to race but the simracing.org.uk on the front remains the same

Have fun tonight wish I was there but having to endure the sun and wine in the south of France for the next five weeks, cheers Bob.

Seems my internet decided to conk out during the race. Pity.

I was lucky to join you for this round as again (its like it knows when to go wrong!) my computer decided to not boot, want to repair windows etc etc. I had allocated an hour for making a setup and practising and instead I got 3 minutes of qualifying as I rapidly tried to guess suitable gear ratios, guess a wing setting and guess on any tweaks from the Brands setup. Thanks to ChrisR for the final gear speed it was (just) spot on.

Started with double the fuel I put in for Brands and at the back but by T2 I was already up 3 or 4 places?! Settled down and took 5 more laps to really work out how to drive the track in the car. Then had consistent pace for the entire race with just one hiccup when the disk light (yes I have an SSD, no Jeffrey, not an STD) went on for 5-10 seconds and the game just froze. Found myself in the gravel having lost about 10 seconds of time in some worm hole. Found myself in 4th after a while and that's where I stayed for an uneventful rest of the race.

Looked in my event log and there is a "Reset to device, \Device\RaidPort0, was issued." at just around the time of when the pause was. Google seems to guess that its power management that something turned something off! So I've changed my power plan to HIGH PERFORMANCE don't turn anything off you stupid operating system!

Mildly enjoyable race for me. Only mildly as I kept cocking up but when I wasn't it was great :)

Huge sorry to Kal for loosing it on the braking into the chicane at the back straight, spinning in front of you and leaving you nowhere to go but into me :( Got my back wheel on the grass and I was a passenger after that. Annoying thing was I did it twice in the race, so that makes me a double muppet. Drop down from 5th to 13th and worked my way back up to 7th in the end.

Thanks for the race everyone.

Just noticed, this race had a mandatory pitstop which I didn't do :( So I guess that's a penalty or a DQ for me. Not sure if anyone else forgot but thought I would be honest as not fair on those who did.

Race didn't go quite as planned for me. Had a couple of last minute tweaks in practise and managed to quali in 2nd, so I was kinda expecting atleast a top 3.

First corner went well, bit of side by side going up to the second chicane, small tap on the but, no worries there. Completely missed the next corner after that and rejoined way down the line. Got abit too impatient and tried to get on the inside of Stephen coming up Ascari with cold tyres. Knew I wasn't gonna make it so decided to cut the curb and go for the grass in order to evade the 2 cars in front. A little spin after that and at the end of L1 I was last with rear and front damage. Oh well, I thought, still an hour to go, my trusty pitcrew will fix it for me ;D

Managed to get a couple spots back even though I was losing about a 2 seconds a lap, so I pitted in L10. Few new tyres, couple of gallons of fuel and a new front and rear wing, shouldn't take that long........

Took them 1 minute and 20 seconds!!!! :censored:  

Got back on track right in front on nfsw just to be lapped. Had some pretty good pace after that and still got back to P5, bit disappointing in the end though.

Still, I enjoyed the 1 hour race. Looking forward to the Silverstone.

PS: anybody know a couple of pitcrew guys looking for some work?? Got quite a few spots available all of a sudden on my team  ;D

Silly boy ;) I even added to the welcome text that gets displayed when you join the server in the hope it would remind people  ::)

Hehe but that means reading instructions and being male that's well beyond my capability lol :)

Interesting race for me, not really what I hoped for, but nevertheless I finished on P2.
Once again qualifying doesn't go as planned, so I started the 1 hour endurance race from P3 on the grid.
I had a very bad start and lost some places before entering turn 1. As I approached the second chicane, a Mercedes in front of me braked very early and I slightly bumped into his rear while I also got bumped from behind.
Found myself back in P6 with quite some front and rear damage, but in the following laps I moved back up to third, after I overtook fmg ( this wasn't the best overtake from my side, sorry for that) and avoided two cars in front of me which came together in turn 1.
Jeffrey and ChrisR were already quite far ahead at this point and I noticed that I was more than one second per lap slower with my damaged car than I was with a undamaged car. So no chance to get closer to Jeffrey this time  ;D(ChrisR left the game for some reason already).
As I knew that the pit crew would need some time to repair my car I decided to do a normal pit stop with new tires and fuel. Otherwise I would've lost much more time in the pits than I actually lost on the track.
The race ended very unenventful for me with a big gap to Jeffrey but also a big gap to P3 behind me.
So this one was a bit of a unlucky race for me, but I also benefited from the problems of some other competitors (Maikel also looked very fast again, shame you damaged your car as well early in the race)
Next one is Silverstone, right? Also a great track, looking forward to it. ;)

Got a PB in qually, but very close to Maikel and nfsw. Thought it wouldn't matter, as they would power by before T1, but I had a good start and was able to defend against Maikel.
When I looked behind there was already a big gap and Maikel and nfsw weren't right behind me anymore  :(.

Was alone most of the race, and with my timing app not showing anything, I had no idea where everybody was. Shame about the lap 1 problems others had, as times wise it was looking amazing and I thought the race would be epic.

Considering its prime holiday weeks, a 14 car grid is good going  :) well done Pete keeping it all going smoothly  8)
Am I right thinking gp20 again couldn't find the server? Odd that   :-\

See you all at silverstone! Though bt have allegedly finally swapped me to infinity in my absence so Lord knows what troubles I'll have on my return  ::) only took them 2 weeks longer than supposed too.

It is odd, Stracker shows he's been on the server at some stage, I suspect only during practice. I've double checked his entry in the entry list and it all makes sense. He is the only one who's not able to find the server AFAIK. As suggested previously I suspect he has a filter that hides it.

So what's the decision on not taking a pitstop, for future reference?

Should be a min 30 second time penalty for missing a pit stop imo (or whatever an average stop takes) but Pete will need to clarify how we enforce it, ie alter your finishing position once time penalty added or make offender start 30+ secs from the pit lane in follow on race. That should Deter!

IMO the penalty should be a lot higher than the average stop, or else it is not really a penalty.

Not a fan of penalizing the next race.

With pit in & out time + the actual work, a stop with no damage repairs must have been the best part of a minute.
I lead for all of about a lap before my stop with Jeffers passing me just before I pitted - he was 40 seconds or more down the road once I rejoined  :o

I'm in favour of penalties being enforced in the races in question. I would also welcome a harsh time penalty over an exclusion for perpetrators - We run an exclusion rule in UKGPL and I can assure you it's not pleasant being excluded from a hard fought podium due to honest forgetfulness!

just back from sunny Italy and I have to put my executioners hat on  ;D

Yes your quite right about the penalty needing to be more than a normal stop I suppose. Linus was good enough to own up but we did put enough notice up that there would be a pitstop required. I'm literally still unpacking so may take a while to find time to check out the laptimes etc. from Monza.  I cant let it slide as not fair to those that finished behind him (or anyone else who didn't pit) with such a time discrepancy, sorry.

I guess its a decision for the moderating team. Personally I think it's an automatic DQ as nothing else is relevant. I know its not nice but it is fair.

Considering I am the person in question I'll be honest, I think there should really only be two options. Either a DQ or a penalty for the next race. I imagine a penalty for the next race might be harder to manage (unless you enforce some kind of stop and go) so my opinion is a DQ is probably the easiest and best option.

well I was considering hitting you with a 1minute penalty, as it was the first endurance on here for a long while and I wasn't here to remind everyone at race start and you were honest about it afterwards. That would put you back in 10th I think but not had time to have a proper look. I don't think there was any scullduggery involved so a DQ would be pretty harsh. But any future events would be penalised more firmly, for anyone.

I note there is a new version of the pitconfig app out too, (1.7.3) might be worth getting hold of.  :)

DQ to harsh imo. A time penalty longer than a severe pitstop but how that is worked out ???? For future races increase the fuel usage rate so all cars must pit.

Pit config is great for me as playing around with a mouse and keyboard during a race really slows the whole procedure.

From the official RULES (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) and penalty guidelines...

Failure to take mandtory pit stop: Exclusion
Where the moderator is satisfied that the failure was accidental, this may be issued without associated penalty points.


IMHO this means you should do what the rules say otherwise what's the point in the rules. :-*

Or like F1 we make another rule up that deals with the specific issue but makes it far more complicated to police and penalise!

;D

If it were F1 we might have to remind people that they need to turn the steering wheel to get around the corner after dive bombing someone else. ;)

Hehe love the way he said 'tell the stewards I was already on full lock'.....oh really  :laugh: yeah turned the steering wheel after he'd missed the apex by the full car length  ;D

A new driving move called ' doing a Rosberg' try it on your local roundabout  ;)

I guess if you do think a DQ is too harsh (happy with whatever decision is made) then I guess, starting from the back at the next race could be an option. If that's not strong enough then maybe imposing a drive through in the race also would enhance the penalty further.

(I love how I am discussing the severity of my penalty. Maybe I should just be put on the naughty step with no tea :) )

Not sure if anyone else missed doing the pitstop. I can check as I have the replay if you want.

I had a look through the lap times for everyone, everyone else had a very slow lap (losing 30+ secs) around the middle of the race except you :( Now they may have fallen off and lost lots and lots of time but 30+ secs is serious off.

No need to overthink it. I'll look again tonight but think the minute penalty is enough, if not then it'll be a dq if required. Pete already checked others laptimes so we know your the only culprit  ;)
This series has had a good vibe and pretty respectful driving so far so no need for anything drastic.  :)

Yep, just went through the replay and it does appear I am the only muppet who forgot to do the pitstop  ::)

Either way, rules are rules so happy with whatever ruling, be it a minute penalty or a DQ.

It's a mistake and should only warrant a time penalty IMO. Save DQs for blatant track cutting and deliberate collisions and stuff like that.

A 1 minute penalty was added to Michaels (Linus) race result for missing the mandatory stop. He now slips 3 places to 10th in the race results.
Future discrepancies may be harsher so you have all been warned now  :smartass:

All endurance rounds will have one mandatory stop.